As an avid hot tenter from Canada where it gets to -40c I can tell you that you need a spark arrestor with guy lines. Guy line the stove pipe out and no problems with keeping the pipe stable and not moving. Also to stay warm bring yourself off the ground by using a foldable cot. The kind that you put together and is light and easy to carry. Your blow up pad should also go inside your sleeping bag to prevent movement and keep you warmer. Have fun
This. A spark arrestor in the top of the stovepipe, then get a few keyrings or small carabiners and clip them to the spark arrestor. These will provide points where you can guy-out the stovepipe and keep things safe. Another tip would be to use wood shavings and much smaller sticks to get the fire going. Using twigs as the smallest instead of pencil-sized sticks provides a volume of burning matter that will last a little bit and help to dry the pencil-sized sticks a bit. Alternatively, one can also use cotton balls soaked in Vaseline, or dryer lint --these will give you something good to ingite. Joe Robinet has some really good videos on how to start fire using various methods. Backpacking and bushcraft camping really aren't too terribly different, and a lot of the skills in terms of camp life are shared. Plus, he has really good repoire with the camera, and is quite humourous at times - so it's educational as well as entertaining.
Yeah the first thing about backpacking stoves is that they are a luxury, it makes your tent warm to start sleep and can warm it up when you wake up. To keep it running all night is a lot of work and not a lot of sleep. Your gear keeps you warm, the stove can but that’s survival at that point.
There are expensive stoves that last 6-8 hours, but normally in the 4-600 $ range, or a proper adjustment to the damper, you can get more time out of the burn. But in most cases, yes this is the case.
One big mistake most people make with stoves is they don’t damper it up, you are loosing most of your what out of the pipe, get alot of coals in that thing and then close it up so it’s not drafting to much, then all the heat will start escaping through the walls in then heating up the tent more effectively and burning slower and put off a lot more heat all night
I enjoy a hot tent 🤷♂️ it’s an option. Take it when you want. I do not typically backpack it though.. usually use it with the car. Klymit sucks for a winter pad.. the r value is not what you think. Also you need to guy out your chimney in those winds. Don’t give up on the stove yet! Have an open mind 👍
I didn’t think of that, throwing guylines on the chimney. I already replaced the klymit with a sea to summit 6.2. I would maybe give the chimney another try, but I don’t about packing it. It’s just a lot of effort 😩
@@JonConti running a stove is a skill, you need to fiddle with front and chimney dampers. With time you get more efficient. Also if there is smoke leaking through the stove open a rear damper. Stove is too small to be burned throughout the night in my opinion, so good sleeping gear is necessary always. Having a stove is great morale booster and also you can cook on it. But yeah, gather some tips and hopefully you will enjoy the stove more. Good luck!
I've been wanting to start hot tent backpacking, and this video was really encouraging. Thanks for keepin it real and showing the less than fun parts like wet shoes and tents not closing right, it's refreshing to see what it'll actually be like.
I gave the hot tent backpacking a real shot this year! Gotta say, I won’t be hot tent backpacking in the future 😂 hot tent glamping yes, hot tent backpacking no
Yep, the stove is for drying wet gear out on multi-day camps and heating Honey Stinger waffles up to soften and toast them. Your down gear is for staying warm. I’ve had to dry saturated boots out overnight so that I wasn’t wearing solidly frozen boots the next day. Life saver!
My buddy has an old Teepee tent about twice that size and has a larger stove. He hauled it in on a sled when we skied to Hell Roaring Lake. WELL below zero and deep snow. After all the setup, we were in our under shirts and cozy. We did not plan to keep the stove going all night and had winter sleep gear. But it was nice to go to bed warm and dry. Hauling the sled through deep unpacked snow was tough on my buddy. My take is that a stove tent is nice for a basecamp if you aren’t hauling it far, but get a good size one.
Grant, you read my mind! After this I thought the exact same thing. So I sold this thing and bought a bigger bell tent and a bigger stove and a sled. We'll be out this weekend testing it.
Some very good advice given here, one mistake new campers make is lighting up a new hot tent fire the first time inside the tent, WRONG, always with a first burn do it outside to burn off the protective oils on the fire.
Lol… I go hiking/backpacking all winter long in Idaho… and the first thing I ditched was my wood stove too!!!! I spent around $400 for that stupid thing and didn’t get the return I expected. I was up every few minutes stoking it and never really slept well. So bravo to your discovery.. invest in the best pad which is imho: the Exped down mat xp9!! You will never have a better winter night’s sleep!
I was thinking of getting that same setup. Maybe I'll have to think about a -20 bag instead of a stove. My xtherm pad keeps me pretty warm even without a foam pad underneath. I got used the crinkling.
Thanks man! I got the sea to summit ether light I'm trying first because they sell it in a large version and I'm slightly bigger than regular size pads. But I got it from REI so if it doesn't work I'll take it back!
@@srobinson426 get the stove! These guys are just doing it wrong. I was hesitant until we were out in 0 degree temps and I sat in my mates tent with the stove going and it was 30 degrees. Keeping the stove lit is about using the right wood. A few lumps of coal in with it and mine burns on its own for 6 hours.
I just bought the same stove and posted my first hot tent experience on my channel too. I loved the experience but i had little wind so the flue meets stove issue wasn't a problem. However I know I need to find a solution to stabilizing the chimney in wind. Thinking a ring and guy lines maybe outside for peace of mind. Good to see someone else's experience on film too. Happy camping. Andrew
The chimney itself should fit snug around the outside of the base sticking up from the stove. Then secure this by sliding one ring down just past the joint towards the stove.
I grew up in northeastern wisconsin. You got it wet feet with shoes that don't day is very bad along with a sleeping pad with little or no insulation makes for cold and sleepless nights. You have to get warm and sleep. I always backpack with heavy warm wool sox at night. Living in california I backpack in the sierras in the summer without snow. The high sierras are spectacular in summer and early fall. There is little or now snow with warm days and again no snow or little ice. The days are fairly warm with nights just under freezing with few summer rain snow storms.
Definitely seems more for ambience/cooking and just tinkering while camping. Seems like good kit would be a better spend. I'm from the UK so shouldn't be too bad here for late winter early spring.
It has a cover for the chimney slot, so when we dumped the chimney I was able to cover the hole. The base has tons of places to stake to reduce the draft. With the stove, they recommend allowing some "draft" for ventilation. So for this next trip I added some stakes to the bag and left the stove. I'll be trying for a good seal this time.
Now that's something I'd like to try I moved to Eastern Idaho about a year ago and I always thought it would be fun to get up there with a wood stove and a hot tent
@@JonConti I just ordered my hot tent and stove. Pretty stoked to get out in the Montana winter and do some hot tenting. Great video man. Thanks for making it
Hey, what about PJ’s. Like the bag liner is a layer, so can be what you wear next to your skin. One, or two layers , sweet wicking, and adjusting for comfort, warmth, too warm, not enough. And blood circulation
You have to set your stove up right i have the same set up and don’t have problem you can use a clamp for the base of the stove pipe and guide ropes for the top that what I do and it’s solid even in wind don’t give up yet on the stove
You need to go with someone that knows what they are doing and can teach you some tricks. Pretty sure the stove and the tent were pitched/setup wrong. Chimney definitely shouldn't be that flimsy either. When you get it right, its freezing out and your toasty warm with a 30 degree tent, its great!
I'm already over it 😆took it out twice and ordered an MSR access 3. Can you tell how the tent was pitched wrong? You're right I need someone to help teach me this thing.
@@JonConti I am pretty sure you had the tent spread out too much and so the pole wasnt extended enough. Thats why you couldnt close the door :-) As for the stove, the adapter where the flue pipe attaches, that should be fixed to the stove body. I am not sure on your stove model how that happens but there must be a video somewhere. It shouldnt be wobbling like that. Final tip, throw a few (not loads) lumps of coal in if you can get it (easy here in the UK). I add maybe 4-6 and my stove lasts until I wake up from being drink. Normally about 6 hours!
@@sambritton8730 that makes a lot of sense I spread the tent out too much. I swear the flue pipe/ chimney does not lock into the this stove. I’ve been researching this thing like crazy, that will be in my review how much I don’t like that! The coal idea is so money! I’m definitely doing that. Thanks for the tips!
Got to do better with the tent stove. First is get your wood straight first get a saw and a hatchet for your tools. Should have set your stove up before to go camping. This would help you out allot and know how everything is set up. I enjoyed the don't do.. Be prepared before you go. OK make sure to have you chimney lines so your stove doesn't flipped over with strong wind. Thank you for showing us the mistakes that are made.
@@JonConti Yep! I got the stove as well! And I have taken it out in the dead of winter a few times! Generally speaking I like it, but in the dead of winter the thing I don't like is if I can't get 8 steaks in the ground I've got a problem... and let me tell you, I've had problems! LOL
I got a good tip on bears from a thru hiker I met in Wyoming. Here, there are a lot of berry bushes, juniper and what not. If those bushes have their berries, a bear has not been in the area. That's the bears main diet so if you see those bushes have been nibbled on, a bear has been in the area.
As an avid hot tenter from Canada where it gets to -40c I can tell you that you need a spark arrestor with guy lines. Guy line the stove pipe out and no problems with keeping the pipe stable and not moving. Also to stay warm bring yourself off the ground by using a foldable cot. The kind that you put together and is light and easy to carry. Your blow up pad should also go inside your sleeping bag to prevent movement and keep you warmer. Have fun
> I can tell you that you need a spark arrestor with guy lines. --- yeah ; I've been doing a little research ; and thought that would be common-sense
This. A spark arrestor in the top of the stovepipe, then get a few keyrings or small carabiners and clip them to the spark arrestor. These will provide points where you can guy-out the stovepipe and keep things safe.
Another tip would be to use wood shavings and much smaller sticks to get the fire going. Using twigs as the smallest instead of pencil-sized sticks provides a volume of burning matter that will last a little bit and help to dry the pencil-sized sticks a bit. Alternatively, one can also use cotton balls soaked in Vaseline, or dryer lint --these will give you something good to ingite.
Joe Robinet has some really good videos on how to start fire using various methods. Backpacking and bushcraft camping really aren't too terribly different, and a lot of the skills in terms of camp life are shared. Plus, he has really good repoire with the camera, and is quite humourous at times - so it's educational as well as entertaining.
Good advice given
Yeah the first thing about backpacking stoves is that they are a luxury, it makes your tent warm to start sleep and can warm it up when you wake up. To keep it running all night is a lot of work and not a lot of sleep. Your gear keeps you warm, the stove can but that’s survival at that point.
There are expensive stoves that last 6-8 hours, but normally in the 4-600 $ range, or a proper adjustment to the damper, you can get more time out of the burn. But in most cases, yes this is the case.
One big mistake most people make with stoves is they don’t damper it up, you are loosing most of your what out of the pipe, get alot of coals in that thing and then close it up so it’s not drafting to much, then all the heat will start escaping through the walls in then heating up the tent more effectively and burning slower and put off a lot more heat all night
I enjoy a hot tent 🤷♂️ it’s an option. Take it when you want. I do not typically backpack it though.. usually use it with the car. Klymit sucks for a winter pad.. the r value is not what you think. Also you need to guy out your chimney in those winds. Don’t give up on the stove yet! Have an open mind 👍
I didn’t think of that, throwing guylines on the chimney. I already replaced the klymit with a sea to summit 6.2. I would maybe give the chimney another try, but I don’t about packing it. It’s just a lot of effort 😩
@@JonConti running a stove is a skill, you need to fiddle with front and chimney dampers. With time you get more efficient. Also if there is smoke leaking through the stove open a rear damper. Stove is too small to be burned throughout the night in my opinion, so good sleeping gear is necessary always. Having a stove is great morale booster and also you can cook on it. But yeah, gather some tips and hopefully you will enjoy the stove more. Good luck!
I've been wanting to start hot tent backpacking, and this video was really encouraging. Thanks for keepin it real and showing the less than fun parts like wet shoes and tents not closing right, it's refreshing to see what it'll actually be like.
I gave the hot tent backpacking a real shot this year! Gotta say, I won’t be hot tent backpacking in the future 😂 hot tent glamping yes, hot tent backpacking no
Yep, the stove is for drying wet gear out on multi-day camps and heating Honey Stinger waffles up to soften and toast them. Your down gear is for staying warm. I’ve had to dry saturated boots out overnight so that I wasn’t wearing solidly frozen boots the next day. Life saver!
My buddy has an old Teepee tent about twice that size and has a larger stove. He hauled it in on a sled when we skied to Hell Roaring Lake. WELL below zero and deep snow. After all the setup, we were in our under shirts and cozy. We did not plan to keep the stove going all night and had winter sleep gear. But it was nice to go to bed warm and dry. Hauling the sled through deep unpacked snow was tough on my buddy. My take is that a stove tent is nice for a basecamp if you aren’t hauling it far, but get a good size one.
Grant, you read my mind! After this I thought the exact same thing. So I sold this thing and bought a bigger bell tent and a bigger stove and a sled. We'll be out this weekend testing it.
Some very good advice given here, one mistake new campers make is lighting up a new hot tent fire the first time inside the tent, WRONG, always with a first burn do it outside to burn off the protective oils on the fire.
"No shame in learning, just start" well said, thank you
Lol… I go hiking/backpacking all winter long in Idaho… and the first thing I ditched was my wood stove too!!!! I spent around $400 for that stupid thing and didn’t get the return I expected. I was up every few minutes stoking it and never really slept well. So bravo to your discovery.. invest in the best pad which is imho: the Exped down mat xp9!! You will never have a better winter night’s sleep!
I was thinking of getting that same setup. Maybe I'll have to think about a -20 bag instead of a stove. My xtherm pad keeps me pretty warm even without a foam pad underneath. I got used the crinkling.
Thanks man! I got the sea to summit ether light I'm trying first because they sell it in a large version and I'm slightly bigger than regular size pads. But I got it from REI so if it doesn't work I'll take it back!
I heard the xtherm was money.
@@JonConti I tested out the xtherm in my backyard on the snow on a cold January night in Utah. Cowboy style. Wife thought I was crazy.
@@srobinson426 get the stove! These guys are just doing it wrong. I was hesitant until we were out in 0 degree temps and I sat in my mates tent with the stove going and it was 30 degrees. Keeping the stove lit is about using the right wood. A few lumps of coal in with it and mine burns on its own for 6 hours.
I just bought the same stove and posted my first hot tent experience on my channel too. I loved the experience but i had little wind so the flue meets stove issue wasn't a problem. However I know I need to find a solution to stabilizing the chimney in wind. Thinking a ring and guy lines maybe outside for peace of mind. Good to see someone else's experience on film too. Happy camping. Andrew
There’s no way to lock in that chimney to the stove right? People are telling me there should be a way to do that but I don’t see one!
The chimney itself should fit snug around the outside of the base sticking up from the stove. Then secure this by sliding one ring down just past the joint towards the stove.
Use a spark arrester at top of chimney . They usually have tie 3 off points for guy lines. Absolutely necessary imo
I grew up in northeastern wisconsin. You got it wet feet with shoes that don't day is very bad along with a sleeping pad with little or no insulation makes for cold
and sleepless nights. You have to get warm and sleep. I always backpack with heavy warm wool sox at night.
Living in california I backpack in the sierras in the summer without snow. The high sierras are spectacular in summer and early fall. There is little or now snow with warm days and again no snow or little ice. The days are fairly warm with nights just under freezing with few summer rain snow storms.
When the weather gets crappy i love my xtratuff boots
Definitely seems more for ambience/cooking and just tinkering while camping. Seems like good kit would be a better spend. I'm from the UK so shouldn't be too bad here for late winter early spring.
Seems like that tent would have a lot of draft areas at the base and around the hole where chimney exits tent. Thanks for another shared adventure.
It has a cover for the chimney slot, so when we dumped the chimney I was able to cover the hole. The base has tons of places to stake to reduce the draft. With the stove, they recommend allowing some "draft" for ventilation. So for this next trip I added some stakes to the bag and left the stove. I'll be trying for a good seal this time.
Now that's something I'd like to try I moved to Eastern Idaho about a year ago and I always thought it would be fun to get up there with a wood stove and a hot tent
Hopefully you have more success than me!
The Klymit pad isn’t actually 4.4R. They really fudge the numbers on that pad.
Ya that rating came in after this. But that pad is still warm I looked up r value testing and it seems pretty flawed
@@JonConti I just ordered my hot tent and stove. Pretty stoked to get out in the Montana winter and do some hot tenting. Great video man. Thanks for making it
Love following along your journey. Quality on point as always!
Thanks, appreciate it!
Hey, what about PJ’s. Like the bag liner is a layer, so can be what you wear next to your skin. One, or two layers , sweet wicking, and adjusting for comfort, warmth, too warm, not enough. And blood circulation
Ya I do have some good layers! What about the PJ’s that have heaters built in, I’m looking at those now
Looks like a good time. I love the drone shots! Really well edited
Thanks David! 🍻
You have to set your stove up right i have the same set up and don’t have problem you can use a clamp for the base of the stove pipe and guide ropes for the top that what I do and it’s solid even in wind don’t give up yet on the stove
Already sold it 😂
You got it, stay warm and dry and you get a good night's sleep in a backpacking tent.
Xped 9 for winter camping. Yes it’s a little bulkier and a little heavier but well worth it
Nice bud! Love the vibe. New subscriber
Nice video brother, subbed. I’m also here in Idaho. 🤘
Sweet thanks man!
Very cool! Thanks Jon!
Any time!
Try exped winter lite pad. It is designed for snow.
You need to go with someone that knows what they are doing and can teach you some tricks. Pretty sure the stove and the tent were pitched/setup wrong. Chimney definitely shouldn't be that flimsy either. When you get it right, its freezing out and your toasty warm with a 30 degree tent, its great!
I'm already over it 😆took it out twice and ordered an MSR access 3. Can you tell how the tent was pitched wrong? You're right I need someone to help teach me this thing.
@@JonConti I am pretty sure you had the tent spread out too much and so the pole wasnt extended enough. Thats why you couldnt close the door :-) As for the stove, the adapter where the flue pipe attaches, that should be fixed to the stove body. I am not sure on your stove model how that happens but there must be a video somewhere. It shouldnt be wobbling like that. Final tip, throw a few (not loads) lumps of coal in if you can get it (easy here in the UK). I add maybe 4-6 and my stove lasts until I wake up from being drink. Normally about 6 hours!
@@sambritton8730 that makes a lot of sense I spread the tent out too much. I swear the flue pipe/ chimney does not lock into the this stove. I’ve been researching this thing like crazy, that will be in my review how much I don’t like that! The coal idea is so money! I’m definitely doing that. Thanks for the tips!
Got to do better with the tent stove. First is get your wood straight first get a saw and a hatchet for your tools. Should have set your stove up before to go camping. This would help you out allot and know how everything is set up. I enjoyed the don't do.. Be prepared before you go. OK make sure to have you chimney lines so your stove doesn't flipped over with strong wind. Thank you for showing us the mistakes that are made.
Thank you man
You're welcome!
Good review, the stove looked kinda flimsy to begin with.
I did get several comments saying it's a skill and we need to learn how to use it. But I'm not out there to play with a stove all day 😆
I have that exact tent and the first place I ever took it was up Sheep Creek because of one of your videos! #boom
I was thinking about taking this thing there! What do you think of the tent? Do you have the stove feature? Have you tried it in the winter?
@@JonConti Yep! I got the stove as well! And I have taken it out in the dead of winter a few times! Generally speaking I like it, but in the dead of winter the thing I don't like is if I can't get 8 steaks in the ground I've got a problem... and let me tell you, I've had problems! LOL
👍👍
Been wanting to do this but sketched out about cougars and bears
I got a good tip on bears from a thru hiker I met in Wyoming. Here, there are a lot of berry bushes, juniper and what not. If those bushes have their berries, a bear has not been in the area. That's the bears main diet so if you see those bushes have been nibbled on, a bear has been in the area.
🤝🏻💪🏻🌲😀👍🏻
Don’t use your gas stove unless you have a door open! The silent killer!!
Line your floor with pine tree branches for extra insulation.
Or, sell this thing and get a MSR access 3! 😂
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Hey want to sell your stove ?
Oops, and more (?) or less. Stay dry. Ok that’s it, oh and how do you spell relief - pee.
Alright, no to the stove
Hey some people like it 😆