TIGER 900 - Search for the LOST CITY
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- Опубліковано 28 сер 2024
- Join me as I search for the Lost City, about 2 hours west of Sydney Australia.
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Every second of this video is why I want to add an adventure bike to the garage!..
Glad you liked it! They are a lot of fun
I went to a beach here in India which is 700kms from my city, on a 160cc bike in 15 hours, god that was crazy. Love ur bike man
Cheers mate!
Great adventure! I've had the Rallz on my 900 for about 3200 miles (~5km). I haven't seen as much wet/muddy/slick conditions as you've shown, but am very happy with them in other off-pavement conditions. They're quite loud on pavement, but grip well and have given me no reason to wish for something more road oriented (other than the noise factor). They're either getting a little quieter or I'm getting more used to them.
The Rallz look very cool, definitely on the shortlist
I enjoyed your video. Some narly tracks. Great to see that Eastern Brown (from a distance).
I'll be interested in your tyre choice. I've chosen a Motoz Tractionator Adventure rear and Bridgestone AX41 front. Hopefully fitting them soon to my Tiger 900 Rally Pro. Also getting my head around the TPMS as the new tyres will be at different pressures to the Triumph settings. Hopefully, you'll find that Lost City at some stage on another Motorcycle Adventure. 👍😁
Thanks for the comments and tyre tips, I hadn't thought about using a different model front and rear.
I'll definitely being doing another run at lost city with the new tyres once I get them.
Great video mate. I’m looking to add an RP to the garage very soon. Will certainly go more off road tyres but seeing what you’ve done on road tyres gives me a lot more confidence in the 20/80 range rather than 50/50.
I want to do what you’re doing and camp also. Very cool videos man!
Thanks mate, I really appreciate that.
The tyres really depend on exactly what sort of riding you want to do. The 80/20 tyres are pretty good in the dry, but for off-road stuff really the more aggressive the better. Everything is a compromise.
I’m now on Continental TKC80 and they are fantastic off-road and pretty good on road
Great ride mate! Thanks again for posting...
Yeah the brown snakes can go you for sure. He was thinking about it cause he flattened his head for a few seconds before he moved on. I haven't been chased by one but suspect he would have caught you in your heavy boots and riding gear, so good move staying still...
Absolutely, you have to respect them. They could mess up your day more than pretty much any accident.
It’s a beautiful spot mate. I’ve spent a fair bit of time on the plateau, but in my 4wd. It looks fun on a bike! That second trail you took to get to the Lost City is actually the easier of the 3 or four routes, but there’s so many tracks in the initial 1km of that route, that it’s easy to accidentally wind up on a track with bog holes and deep ruts.
Sometimes you’ll see where 4wd groups have left markers in the trees to show the easier route.
There’s an absolute tonne of tracks through that area, leading to incredible scenery. It’s easy to eat up half a day and only make it to 2 or three spots.
Thanks for the comment. It sure is a beautiful spot. I've been up 4 times now (once in a 4x4), and keep finding new tracks. Another good thing is it's a few degrees cooler in summer up there.
thanks for the vid, as another tiger900 rider enjoy them, in fact if you ever want to catch up for a ride let me know. Some quick feedback. The snake you saw was actually you a tiger snake, not an eastern brown. The tyres, I HIGHLY recommend the Pirrelli Scorption Rally STR, I've got them on mine and honestly you can't tell the difference on tar compared to stock, but offroad they are amazing. Hence why they are the default on T700 and the ducati desert x. Finally, I highly recommend checking out steg pegz and pivot pegz, they completely changed the offroad feel for me on the tiger900. Additionally I would recommend the barkbusters and replacing the stock bash plate and protection, neither will actually take a hit on the types of riding you're doing.
I am also running the Pirrelli Scorpion Rally STR's on my 900 Rally Pro. I am about renew the rear. I am not an experienced off-road rider and I need every assistance I can get. I cannot out-run the tyres on paved roads and they are definitely up for the dirt and gravel roads I want to explore. Great option.
I am also a fan of barkbusters and some upgraded protection. I would express caution, however, about strapping on crash-bars which bolt to the front cylinder head mount. There is a fair bit of forum traffic about catastrophic failures without having to put the bike down. There are clearly some physics at play which have not been understood by the after-market engineers.
Cheers for the invite and thanks for the tips, the Pirellis do seem a bit more sensible for the road, which is where I spend a lot of my time, even just getting out to the offroad places. And you're right about the snake, definitely a tiger. I thought it might have been a juvenile brown because of the faint stripes.
Nice adventure you had!
It was a great day out that’s for sure
You've given me confidence to be a bit more adventurous with the stock tyres on my 900 Rally. (At least until we get some proper rain!)
Go for it! I reckon they are pretty good on dirt and gravel, it's just the mud that will catch you out.
Another great vid , love that you centre around Sydney. Kyle Bradshaw does very comprehensive video's for adventure tyre's.
Thanks for the tip about Kyle Bradshaw, that name rings a bell. I'll check his channel,. Cheers mate!
You’re very brave doing those roads on those tyres mate
Thanks mate. They are surprisingly good if it’s dry, but any hint of mud and they are like greased ball bearings :-)
You actually did find the lost city. The lost city was a war time strategy. Exactly where you said they placed a heap of lighs through valley to make it look like Lithgow as Lithgow had a small arms factory. Made ammunition from memory. I use the rallyz on the front and gps on the rear about to swap to the rallyz on the rear. They whole noones plateau is like that road wise. Challenging area to ride but beautiful place to visit.
Wow I had no idea. What an interesting bit of history. I wonder if there is any evidence remaining?
So you are going to be 100% RallZ? I have heard the rear is not too bad on road for a knobbly.
@@australianadv I have never found any evidence of the city left however a local May know of some. Yes full Rallyz will see how it goes
@@banjopluker8254 err Lost City is a reference to the fact that it looks like an abandoned city. It's the natural gardens of stone national park stone formations but with "artistic license" you can see a city. I'm not going to say that you're war time strategy is wrong, but definitely the "lost city" these days refers to how the stone formations look.
Hi, I immediately changed the tyres on my RP when I got it - put on Bridgestone Trailmax Mission. Done 10k kms in 6 months (70% dirt) .... Great off and on road but with a little more noise on the front when on tarmac. Barkbusters are a must also. Added some Lone Rider Motopegs which make a huge difference standing up. Some quality full height boots with solid ankle protection are a must also....
Thanks for the tips. I've got some great boots now, but need some pants to go over them. Looking at the Klim Dakar because it's so hot here this time of year.
Just getting the rubbers out of the Tiger's pegs made a huge difference, but some bigger pegs would be good.
Gday Mate I have the Tiger 900 rally and I have just installed the Motoz Dualventure on front & GPS on the rear. They are great for on and off-road. I had Rallz (front) and adventure (rear) before which I thought could be better for on-road grip so i changed them out. The dualventure is still as noisy as the Rallz on the front. The GPS on the rear does not provide as much traction as the Motoz Adventure but its far better on-road. I will be commuting far more than doing off-road laps of Australia so I think its a good compromise so far.
Thanks for the info
Nice trip, definitely need some off road tires though. I'm not digging the brown snake, nope!
You and me both! Most dangerous moment of the day potentially
Agree on the poor seat design.Surprised you did not ride with off rd tyres especially as you said you were recovering from a knee issue.Nice looking trail for sure.Thks.
I still had so much tread on the road tyres, couldn't bring myself to swap them out just yet.
I'm now on the TKC80 tyres and they are incredible. I'm thinking of heading back to lost city and see how much further I can get on them.
900 RP here as well. In Florida we have mostly deep sand but red clay in the Panhandle. I run a Dual Venture up front and a Tractionator Adventure in the Rear. The Adventure tire I think is amazing and the Rally should be even more so. But the Dual Venture is so loud on the road that I'm think of going more Road oriented when the time comes. Perhaps the Scorpion STR or Anakee Adventure. We'll see.
Sand is my kryptonite, especially on the big bike. Thanks for the tire tip, that's another vote for the Scorpions, I'll have to check them out.
I’ve got a Motoz Tractionator GPS on the rear and a Dualventure on the front of my Suzuki XF650.
Both tubeless, with tubes fitted on 19/17 wheels.
They worked great on and off road in loose gravel and sand etc, but haven’t tried them in mud yet.
I like the smoothness of the gps rear on the road, but it still hooks up great in the deep sand.
I like a chunky front for off-road, because if the front grips that’s the most important thing for my confidence, and the rear will typically just follow.
The DV was also good enough on the road, but I only tried it in the dry.
I’m happy with the combination so far, but I’m riding a relatively light Suzuki which is fairly easy to handle on the proper dirt tracks, with a low seat height advantageous as well.
That's a nice setup, it was on my shortlist. I ended up going with Continental TKC80 front and back, and they've been great on and off road. They wear down pretty quick so I might give the RallZ a go on the rear and DV on the front pretty soon.
Thanks for the info
@@australianadv cool.
I had the tkc80 on my list until I saw the DV.
A mate has the continental on his 790 and he’s been happy with it, but he did get 2 punctures in it on our trip to Broken Hill a couple of weeks ago.
From thorns out near Silverton.
He put 2 plugs in it but they leaked because they were very close together.
Luckily we bumped into a guy at a servo who took us to Robs dirt bikes.
He was just going to put a tube in it, but they had a Rallz in stock and fitted it up while we waited.
On a Sunday morning!
With a hangover!!
Legends!!!
@@RealHooksy That is some amazing service, good to know if I ever get out that way. Who'd have thought you get punctures from thorns?
@@australianadv yes, excellent service.
The place looks like a tip and it’s out on the edge of town, but good blokes who know their stuff.
A new tyre on a Sunday morning saved us from nursing it all the way home.
We had 200km of dirt with no backup so we probably would have stayed on the black stuff otherwise.
It turned a boring commute into a great outback ride, and gave us another story to tell at the pub😎
@@australianadv and on the thorns, yes they were massive.
It made the tyres look like a bicycle.
I had no problem with the DV’s though, but I put that down to the deep tread, and in its defence, the tkc was quite worn.
I'm seriously impressed with how far you got on the stock tires, I've done a few easy fire trails and gravel tracks on my RP and had zero confidence in them. I think the stock tires are the biggest mistake Triumph made with this bike, surely they could have offered an 80/20 tire as a factory option, even if it was only for the RP version.
I'll be keeping an eye on here for others thoughts, I'm still battling with the battlaxe's but I've got my eye on a set of Mitas E07+ Dakar because my local Victorian tracks are more rocky and shaley than up north so I wanted the tougher carcass of the Dakar variant.
Yeah it's really doing it in difficult-mode on those stock tires, mud especially is basically like ice skating. I can't wait to try the same tracks again on the new tires.
Hey man, nice adventure! On tyres... I'm running Motoz Rallyz on my Versys, had them on for about 1,000 km. Good traction and surprisingly great feel on pavement, but very noisy, especially straight ahead, quieter when cornering. Will probably try something else next time, just for less noise.
Thanks for the info. Rallz is on the shortlist.
Those tires did no favours in getting around that corner. First thing I noticed on the bike was the road biased tires.
Yeah mate, been off those tyres for a while now. Just about to get my second set of off-road tyres, makes all the difference
incredible area mate
It really is, so much to see.
@@australianadv 👍
Tusk dsport if you can get them down under ?👍🤟nice vid maté spectacular views !!
Thanks mate. Tusk is very rare down here, they look good though.
Great video ride safe
Thanks mate
I’m currently running Motoz adventure on the front and a dual venture on the rear of my 900 RP. I also ran the GPS’s on my 800 XCX. Both are great tyres the GPS is a lot quieter on the road but I have a lot more confidence with the more aggressive adventure on the front
Thanks for the tyre tips, I'm really torn between the GPS and the RallZ for the rear. I'm leaning towards the GPS because it's really the front that I don't want to lose in a muddy rut, I can handle the rear slipping around.
The dualventure is a front tyre only. Are you sure you arent running the Adventure on the rear?
Michelin anakee wild, good tyres for road and dirt,
Thanks for the info, they look good
Purchase the tyres for the riding style you enjoy the most (not always the same as the amount of riding you do!).
That is some sage advice, a very interesting perspective. Thank you
@@australianadv not actually my own advice…heard it on Biker Bits Podcast!! But it’s worked for me!
Lost city? Isn’t it referring to the rock formations that look like ruined walls etc?
I’ve heard that, but I have also heard that they set up a fake city with lots of lighting to divert potential bombers from the munitions factory in Lithgow during the Second World War.
Motoz tractionator adventure tyre I get about 7000km front 11000km rear, and adventure gps rear 15000km all tyres great grip and good feel.
Thanks for the tip. Another vote for Motoz :-)
Anakee Wild, or even MT21/d606 combo. If both fail Dunlop's Geomax should do the job.
Thank you, Anakee Wilds are on the shortlist.
It has been a while since you published this video, so I assume that you decided on tires. For what it is worth, I was running TKC 70 Rocks on my 1200 and they were great. I don't do as aggressive riding as you do but they were fantastic when I was off-road.
Btw, as a Canadian, I can tell you that I found the snake more intimidating than any of the trails!
Lol. But I am serious!
Cheers
Hi mate, I have indeed decided and in fact they are probably 60% worn out already! I went with the TKC 80s. They have been absolutely brilliant off road, and pretty good on road too. I'll probably try something else next time just for the comparison, probably still off road oriented. The TKC 70s is also tempting, I do a lot of highway miles getting to these trails and I reckon they'd last longer than the 80s.
You get a healthy respect for snakes in Australia. It really was the most dangerous part of the day, they are lethal. I've since found it was a Tiger Snake, ironically. 3rd most venomous in the world depending on what site you ask.
@australianadv Now I wished that I had called my channel Tiker Snake and not Tiger Coward!
Lol.
Ride well!
@australianadv I got about 8,000 km on my TKC70s. They were the only tires that I could get during the lockdown.
They were pretty good in sand and great on gravel. I did some 2UP on very muddy mining roads and they surprised me on the amount of grip I had.
They were very secure on the road.
I will stay tuned for your reviews.
Nice story. Dude! Are you Blind? That was the Lost City at the 10min mark. D606 for me on my Transalp 650V. Not sure what your Tiger weighs but my setup is about the 210Kg mark without me on her. ( Another 101Kg for me) they are a 50/50 Tubed tire. Gives you that ring of Confidence in the Narly Stuff. Even if my Skill level is still getting there. Kiaora.
I must be blind because I still don't see it?!
The Tiger is about 225kg wet, and I'm a bit more than you :-) thanks for the tire tip. BTW Transalp is an old favourite of mine, are you looking at the new 750?
@@australianadv I've just Brought my Transalp so going to ride the heck out of her. maybe down the Road a bit i'd like to get an Africa Twin 1000.
@@davidkumeroa2997 Such a good looking bike, I hope you enjoy it. Ride safe
I am happy with this tires here: HEIDENAU K 60 SCOUT
Thanks for the info, I'll check them out
not the GPS, either RALLZ or even ADVENTURE which is a good tyre road and offraod
and the DUAL VENTURE front, the best front tyre for a big adventure bike
Thanks mate, sounds like a good choice. I think I’ll go Adventure rear and DV front
Check Continental Tkc80
Will do, thanks!
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Cheers mate!
Paying so much for the bike I would go where ever I want fuk the track condition - I’d leave the bike there 😂 failure
lol even the mighty tiger has its limits :-)
Magnifique
Merci!