I now use this tool on each channel with acoustics with active pickups and vocal mics (8 in all). It does a nice job to 'ring out' each instrument and yields better sound all around. Tip: I narrow the bandwidth of what it automatically selects to not take out too much natural sound, then test again and save the settings. A very worth while tool.
It looks like a great plug-in but right at the end when you compare the corrected vs. bypass you cheat a little by using your hand cupped over the microphone to aggravate feedback when bypassed but use only your voice when you are using correction. I would like to have heard corrected vs. bypass on a level playing field by cupping the mic for both examples as worse case scenario. Apples & oranges Val...
This X-FDBK normally costs $150, is now just $30! I'm seeing this from the USA; maybe prices are different elsewhere. Grand! People spend thousands of dollars for stage equipment, and they surely need to use this app. But obviously, the laptop with the app would need to stay connected to a USB-connected mixer during the entire performance.
+JamesMulvale In most cases channel EQ boosting during sound-check should be within 2-4 dB range. If so, make your X-FDBK cuts deeper by 2-3 dB by turning Global AMP left. For more information please kindly reach out to our Sales Team at 865-909-9200 or message them directly here: www.waves.com/contact-sales
So long as you are not using EQ with a lot of boost, which is a bad idea in the first place, there will be no problems. Regardless of what you do with EQ, having the ring-out done properly will help, and the ability to globally crank up the amount of feedback correction enables a quick solution to somebody making feedback with excessive boosting.
you could do what I do and solo your lead vocal mic in really flat headphones or IEMs and pre-eq your mic before ringing out then ring out after, or you could try the exact opposite and do x-feedback first... but then if you do any "additive eq" it may cause a problem. Try it both ways and see how you like it. For me if I'm using a wireless beta 58 (almost all of the time) I already know what EQ I'm going to do anyways.
Here's a tip from the studio that can help in EQ live. When you want to make something brighter, instead of upping some high mid or high, just cut everything else and add a slight fader increase. This gives you effectively the same general curve without increasing frequencies you already rang out. When you need to boost more than that, drop your ring frequencies by at least that much in your FB kill setup, then adjust slowly from there to get a nice clear tone. It takes only a second to trim a fat channel down or up, and you'll be keeping the headroom in your formant ranges rather than decreasing it by raising that field. You may lose a little DB but increasing afterward should return the total loudness, splitting the functional increase among the frequencies without over driving those you rang out. You should still apply more drop to those rang out frequencies, but only a little. This then takes about a minute to 3 minutes per input, cutting your soundcheck time down. If you increase first, you have to adjust the drop frequencies, then adjust the fat eq again, then adjust the drop again and so on. Start with a decrease in those opposite your desire, and you'll get your color without a lot of back and forth. In the studio, sometimes getting a decent balance in EQ or between instruments, you don't increase the one item that offends, you decrease everything else. You bus it all, then drop it until the balance is close or dead on, then divide the balance by the number of instruments and round up to 0.3, 0.5, 0.9, 3, 6, and 10. Decrease all instruments by that amount, and then adjust back up to bring some back in as necessary, but extremely slow. Some will need another decrease of a slight touch rather than an increase, but almost every instance I've dealt with needs an increase of 0.1 or 0.2 after the initial drop. This maintains the color and fusion of the instruments as they sit together without increasing my overall volume, and I can then master at the end to maximize it.
It can be done, it’s not super easy though. You need a program on hour PC (like waves multirack) that lets you run the plugin. Then you need to send the mix you want to EQ to the plugin, and return it to the console.
Hi there, the Midas M32 can connect to the SoundGrid network using the DN32-WSG I/O Card: www.waves.com/hardware/dn32-wsg-card If you need further assistance, our tech support department is open 7 days a week and will be more than glad to assist. Please contact us directly: www.waves.com/contact-us
Voy a probarlo Nativo a ver que tanto CPU necesita cada instancia... Pues es la comparación justa de si es buena inversión o en standalone hardware... Well done Waves!! Well done (Y)
Hi there, I wanna use this for my live performance setup inside Ableton Live as a DAW backing track. Is it gonna work well for relatively small stage? Thanks in advance
I don't deal with live sound but... yeah its getting rid of feedback but, isnt it also ruining the sound of the vocal coming out of the mic because of all that EQ applied?
No. In digital mixers you apply the filters to the monitor send. Not the vocal channel. This way the vocals go to the mains untouched, and the monitors get cut where they need
+HYVBJ JGT Please kindly reach out to our Sales Team directly here: www.waves.com/contact-sales to ensure that your particular console is compatible. You can run virtually all Waves plugins natively by connecting your firewire cable to a computer with MultiRack. See setup here: www.waves.com/live-sound/presonus#setups
Hi @Clyde Villegas, please note that Voicemeeter and Cantabile are not officially supported with our V12 plugins and apps, as stated on the Supported Hosts page on our website: www.waves.com/support/tech-specs/supported-hosts
+Yann W The only way I can think of is to run an audio interface/computer with the same amount of inputs and outputs as the mixer before the board, and have the signal running thru a DAW that can run this plugin with little latency.
+Malcolm Z Hi guys, the most professional way to get X-FDBK working with a non-digital mixer is to use DiGiGrid IOC with a designated SoundGrid Server and then load up XFDBK with MultiRack. For more information please kindly reach out to our Sales Team at 865-909-9200 or message them directly here: www.waves.com/contact-sales
Honestly, you'd probably be better off with a dbx driverack pa+ or something similar. Sure, the plugin is $99, but the SoundGrid server + DigiGrid interface will cost more than an entry level digital mixer. I've used the dbx AFS feature and it does the same thing, minus the graphical interface. Plus, you get plenty of other features for $300 or so.
How is he controlling the emotion lv1 software with the iPad? I've been wondering if this is possible for a while and he seems to have pretty much the entire mac screen, or at least the software view, mirrored on the iPad.
+Brendan Roche Control of the eMotion LV1 via iPad can be achieved through VNC. You can learn how to set up VNC here: www.waves.com/1lib/pdf/live/vnc-remote-control.pdf If you need additional support please kindly reach out to our Tech Support team: www.waves.com/support/contact-support
That Eastern Europe is making me feel like I am watching those drug war movies... #ChillsAllOver especially when he says... "That evil sound....". Great accent my guy... Wouldn't mind hearing that in an advert.
Face it...there is no longer a market for processing plugins...decryption algorithms will continue to supercede iLok and the like. Put your expertise elsewhere
This way to eliminate the feedback produce a bad quality sound due to the eccessive equalization of the audio systems, the best way is to buy high quality monitors and PA filled with dedicated DSP and amplifier.
I now use this tool on each channel with acoustics with active pickups and vocal mics (8 in all). It does a nice job to 'ring out' each instrument and yields better sound all around. Tip: I narrow the bandwidth of what it automatically selects to not take out too much natural sound, then test again and save the settings. A very worth while tool.
Wow! I just learned more than what I did in 6 months of Sound Engineering class.
It looks like a great plug-in but right at the end when you compare the corrected vs. bypass you cheat a little by using your hand cupped over the microphone to aggravate feedback when bypassed but use only your voice when you are using correction. I would like to have heard corrected vs. bypass on a level playing field by cupping the mic for both examples as worse case scenario. Apples & oranges Val...
How you setup for a Waves Multirack on a Behringer X-Air ? Please !
This X-FDBK normally costs $150, is now just $30! I'm seeing this from the USA; maybe prices are different elsewhere. Grand! People spend thousands of dollars for stage equipment, and they surely need to use this app. But obviously, the laptop with the app would need to stay connected to a USB-connected mixer during the entire performance.
If this is pre-soundcheck, how does it fare after your singer has been EQd?
+JamesMulvale In most cases channel EQ boosting during sound-check should be within 2-4 dB range. If so, make your X-FDBK cuts deeper by 2-3 dB by turning Global AMP left. For more information please kindly reach out to our Sales Team at 865-909-9200 or message them directly here: www.waves.com/contact-sales
So long as you are not using EQ with a lot of boost, which is a bad idea in the first place, there will be no problems. Regardless of what you do with EQ, having the ring-out done properly will help, and the ability to globally crank up the amount of feedback correction enables a quick solution to somebody making feedback with excessive boosting.
you could do what I do and solo your lead vocal mic in really flat headphones or IEMs and pre-eq your mic before ringing out then ring out after, or you could try the exact opposite and do x-feedback first... but then if you do any "additive eq" it may cause a problem. Try it both ways and see how you like it. For me if I'm using a wireless beta 58 (almost all of the time) I already know what EQ I'm going to do anyways.
Here's a tip from the studio that can help in EQ live. When you want to make something brighter, instead of upping some high mid or high, just cut everything else and add a slight fader increase. This gives you effectively the same general curve without increasing frequencies you already rang out. When you need to boost more than that, drop your ring frequencies by at least that much in your FB kill setup, then adjust slowly from there to get a nice clear tone. It takes only a second to trim a fat channel down or up, and you'll be keeping the headroom in your formant ranges rather than decreasing it by raising that field. You may lose a little DB but increasing afterward should return the total loudness, splitting the functional increase among the frequencies without over driving those you rang out. You should still apply more drop to those rang out frequencies, but only a little. This then takes about a minute to 3 minutes per input, cutting your soundcheck time down. If you increase first, you have to adjust the drop frequencies, then adjust the fat eq again, then adjust the drop again and so on. Start with a decrease in those opposite your desire, and you'll get your color without a lot of back and forth.
In the studio, sometimes getting a decent balance in EQ or between instruments, you don't increase the one item that offends, you decrease everything else. You bus it all, then drop it until the balance is close or dead on, then divide the balance by the number of instruments and round up to 0.3, 0.5, 0.9, 3, 6, and 10. Decrease all instruments by that amount, and then adjust back up to bring some back in as necessary, but extremely slow. Some will need another decrease of a slight touch rather than an increase, but almost every instance I've dealt with needs an increase of 0.1 or 0.2 after the initial drop. This maintains the color and fusion of the instruments as they sit together without increasing my overall volume, and I can then master at the end to maximize it.
how do you insert this plugin on M32 Aux out for monitors?
How can you put this plugin on Multiracks on L/R channel? I have Xair 18 Behringer and I can’t find LR channel on Multiracks list.
Is this a software i can install in my computer(windows) and avoid feedback from speakers to mic, and use it for calls for google meet and zoom calls?
I'd love to see this tested on live distorted vocals (the king of feedback)
How do we control the software using an ipad like he did in the video?
FlipinDingo By using a router
is this plug in going to work on behringer x air x18
It can be done, it’s not super easy though. You need a program on hour PC (like waves multirack) that lets you run the plugin. Then you need to send the mix you want to EQ to the plugin, and return it to the console.
@@LightYagamiVSL can you help me please
How do I connect with my mixer?
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Кто-нибудь знает Как это работает?Программа записана в компьютереКак подключиться к микрофону и
Awsome, waves is the future!
Hi, will there be an iPad App released in future?
HOW CAN I USE THIS WITH MIDAS M3232?
Hi there, the Midas M32 can connect to the SoundGrid network using the DN32-WSG I/O Card: www.waves.com/hardware/dn32-wsg-card
If you need further assistance, our tech support department is open 7 days a week and will be more than glad to assist. Please contact us directly: www.waves.com/contact-us
I was expecting him to put the hand on the last demonstration with the plugin on LOL!
Thanks for the explanations, you help us a lot...
Will this plug-in work with Logic Pro Mainstage software?
Sir how to cut feedback please give me one eplezar
Voy a probarlo Nativo a ver que tanto CPU necesita cada instancia... Pues es la comparación justa de si es buena inversión o en standalone hardware... Well done Waves!! Well done (Y)
Damned impressive mate, also love your accent, love to visit Russia too.
Hi there, I wanna use this for my live performance setup inside Ableton Live as a DAW backing track. Is it gonna work well for relatively small stage? Thanks in advance
Yes it works well for small stages as well as large stages. But I would suggest you demo it first to see if it works well for your needs.
Hello ,I’m Nathan,how can i have this plug-ins?,thanks
I don't deal with live sound but... yeah its getting rid of feedback but, isnt it also ruining the sound of the vocal coming out of the mic because of all that EQ applied?
It is
No. In digital mixers you apply the filters to the monitor send. Not the vocal channel. This way the vocals go to the mains untouched, and the monitors get cut where they need
@@matthewchouinard8662 ooohhh, right because its the monitors that are causing the feedback. Makes sense.
Валентин, отличный тул!! Спасибо!!!
How can add this plug in for live on a presonus studiolive legacy 24.4.2
+HYVBJ JGT Please kindly reach out to our Sales Team directly here: www.waves.com/contact-sales to ensure that your particular console is compatible. You can run virtually all Waves plugins natively by connecting your firewire cable to a computer with MultiRack. See setup here: www.waves.com/live-sound/presonus#setups
I'm very new to this. Can I use this on Voicemeeter with Cantabile Lite? Thanks!
Hi @Clyde Villegas, please note that Voicemeeter and Cantabile are not officially supported with our V12 plugins and apps, as stated on the Supported Hosts page on our website: www.waves.com/support/tech-specs/supported-hosts
is there a possibility to add this great plugin to a non-digital mixer?
+Yann W The only way I can think of is to run an audio interface/computer with the same amount of inputs and outputs as the mixer before the board, and have the signal running thru a DAW that can run this plugin with little latency.
+Malcolm Z Hi guys, the most professional way to get X-FDBK working with a non-digital mixer is to use DiGiGrid IOC with a designated SoundGrid Server and then load up XFDBK with MultiRack. For more information please kindly reach out to our Sales Team at 865-909-9200 or message them directly here: www.waves.com/contact-sales
+Waves Audio Thank you!
Honestly, you'd probably be better off with a dbx driverack pa+ or something similar. Sure, the plugin is $99, but the SoundGrid server + DigiGrid interface will cost more than an entry level digital mixer.
I've used the dbx AFS feature and it does the same thing, minus the graphical interface. Plus, you get plenty of other features for $300 or so.
dbxpro.com/en-US/products/afs2
Dedicated Feedback Suppressor unit. Does the job :)
Nice Explain Thank you
B..Compact need to use waves ... How can I achieve this??.. please if possible can you put a email so I can connect with you more. Thanks
Hi there, our tech support department is open 7 days a week and will be more than glad to assist. Please contact us directly: www.waves.com/contact-us
Вот это крутяк !!!
Hi, I am also doing well.
How is he controlling the emotion lv1 software with the iPad? I've been wondering if this is possible for a while and he seems to have pretty much the entire mac screen, or at least the software view, mirrored on the iPad.
+Brendan Roche Control of the eMotion LV1 via iPad can be achieved through VNC. You can learn how to set up VNC here: www.waves.com/1lib/pdf/live/vnc-remote-control.pdf If you need additional support please kindly reach out to our Tech Support team: www.waves.com/support/contact-support
Also in terms of screensharing, Splashtop is in many respects better than VNC.
1st arrows are going the wrong way.
That Eastern Europe is making me feel like I am watching those drug war movies... #ChillsAllOver especially when he says... "That evil sound....". Great accent my guy... Wouldn't mind hearing that in an advert.
Mixing station Pro has this.
mindblown
Impressive.
In communist Russia the back feeds you!
shut up
Heh, good one! :)
Thank you Ned Stark.
Говорит как русский.
Face it...there is no longer a market for processing plugins...decryption algorithms will continue to supercede iLok and the like. Put your expertise elsewhere
Hi everybody I am, well? Orrrrr huh???
Госпадиии. Шо так сложно поработать на акцентом?? Хотя бы минимальным..
This way to eliminate the feedback produce a bad quality sound due to the eccessive equalization of the audio systems, the best way is to buy high quality monitors and PA filled with dedicated DSP and amplifier.
How could I use X FDBK with a X32 Behringer
yes i have it