You gotta give the Cindershot another try. It's more like the reach Nade Launcher than a rocket launcher. Gotta bounce those shots before it explodes, or go for a direct hit. With some practice it's extremely deadly. You can literally chase people around corners with alt fire.
My dude put the Cindershot in the C tier? Really!? The weapon that can 2 hit people, has 12 shots, hinders movement, blinds them, and shoots around corners... Is a C!? Edit : Oh. He says it sucks because he's using the aiming mode. Yeah... Use the normal mode buddy...
Here’s my tier list.S,sword,rockets,sniper.A,br,hammer,cinder,heatwave,bulldog,skewer.B,mangler,shock,stalker,sidekick,sentinel,needler,disrupter,plasma pistol.C,assault,hydra.D,carbine,commando.F,ravager. This tier list was about the desirability of the weapons,not just the damage.
I agree with most of the list, but I would move the AR and sidekick up to A rank and the bulldog down to B. I feel the opposite on the bulldog and heatwave.
Im sorry the bulldog is A tier but the cindershot is C? Are you tripping sac? This is user error you obviously dont know how to use it. Also ar and sidekick are easily A tier.
I found one use for it it’s against lite vehicles such as ghost it deals decent damage to the Vehicle But the real strength is that if you hit anywhere on the vehicle, it pretty much always damages the driver
5:04.The disruptor. You said it yourself. It melts shields. Sure you should switch to another gun to finish the job. What's wrong with that? Halo is about combos right? Disruptor/Sidekick is one of my favorite loadouts. Also I slay with the cindershot. Am I just amazing or is it the gun? Probably the gun.
Dude… the disruptor is absolutely cracked, if u just hold fire and hit your shots it has a faster kill time than the sidekick. Like it kills so freakin fast if u hit your shots, but tbf that’s only at close range in ranked not against the AR. But against the BR in ranked it shreds so fast and with close range it’s easy to get the last kill headshot
Wow you were generous with the sniper. For a legacy weapon 343 tweaked and broke it doesn’t deserve S. its a B for me. I often leave it on the map these days.
sword is not an s tier weapon. its great for close range and closing off certain parts of the maps, its an a tier in my opinon. it can hurt your team if you try using it too often
@@josephmoore6518 have to disagree, I think it’s unquestionably an S tier weapon. However I will kinda meet you in the middle and say it’s Low S Tier, just how I think shock rifle is High A Tier
Skewer should be S. it’s a one shot kill. Only drawback is reload time. Plasma pistol can be devastating in the right hands and is too low. Needler is probably the easiest guaranteed kill for anyone who doesn’t know how to aim if you know it’s optimal range. It should be in b tier. The sentinel beam should be moved down a tier or even two because it is the worst at its optimal range and terrible outside of it (though maybe I just suck with it). Energy sword and gravity hammer should be one tier away from one another as they fulfill the same purpose with the same result 90% of the time. I’d probably move the sword down to A tier but depending on who you ask moving the hammer up to A is definitely debatable. If enemies are stacked it can be better than the sword though that happens rarely. Either one in combination with the grapple shot is S. Disruptor pulls down shields fast but it’s major advantage is that it leaves the shields down for an extended period of time after they have been stripped making it an effective weapon for team play. Though C or D is an acceptable tier imo. battle rifle is not an s tier weapon. You would drop it in a heartbeat for anything else in the S tier. Sorry if I’m being harsh but You put the skewer in the same tier as the commando and the sentinel beam
I don't know about you, but I can't use properly the shock rifle. It's a sniper, but if you the head, it may not kill. So, what does it do? How can I use it?
It’s like a halo 3 burst if that burst was lightspeed( try to shoot their head when they are standing still or barely moving, if they are moving good luck tracking the 3 shot burst. But seriously if they are moving I find that moving the crosshairs a little more ahead of them works) for ex if an enemy is sprinting to the left aim a little bit forward to the left and track their head
It’s very good tho. Best advice starting out I can give is don’t try to headshot ppl with who are streaming across screen/lane. If they are facing you and challenging you tho then they are in trouble 😈
Somewhat agree with the tier. I believe the worst weapon hands down is still the plasma pistol, followed by the ravager. With the ravager you can shoot and, if you're close (which is not intended for the weapon), melee for a kill. Still, I miss the beta ravager. The Cindershot is lovely but I agree that for some reasons it feels less usable than other weapons, probably due to the unpredictable bounce. From 343 I would like to see a buff or proper balance for the ravager, plasma pistol, plasma rifle and I guess the commando. I love the disruptor, but it feels like it can't be used as a utility weapon in many circumstances. Anyway my favorite weapons are definitely the sidekick, the AR and the mangler. I love how the manger works, I wouldn't nerf it at all.
@@shellfall8526 I’ve never faced this situation, I’ll make sure to give it a try if I find someone using an overshield. Still, I wouldn’t use it in any case, not even by charging the pistol, because the enemy can easily strafe and avoid it while I spent a second of my attack to charge it. I admit I don’t care if it’s weak, what it matters to me is if it has a purpose and is reliable in its role. The disruption is overall a weak weapon but can be using against multiple enemies nearby or to deactivate vehicles.
@@iKiwed yea, it’s better for popping around corners and shooting the charged shot to drain shields and then get a pick, don’t wanna be walking around with it all Willy Nilly. But for going around corners where you expect an enemy kinda close it works wonders for me
Mangler doesn't need a nerf because the entire halo sandbox is fucked up. Not saying the sandbox doesn't work, but the mangler doesn't need a nerf. The entire sandbox just needs a rework
Plasma pistol is dog water rn, like it's abismal, I like the ravager I think it could be D tier cause it's aoe is at least useful unlike the plasma pistols non-existent tracking. Also The Pulse Carbine is one above the Plasma pistol wherever you place that, it has much better damage, tracking, range, it beats it out in almost every situation except maybe extreme cqb. One more thing, I hate the Shock rifle XD I cannot use it for shit but that's a much more personal take.
I have to disagree about the plasma pistol. While not even close to my fav secondary, it a very good secondary. And it being a counter to overshield gives it a lot of value in competitive play. I’d very confidently put it in the B tier
I also have to completely agree with shock rifle in the A tier, however I’m VERY tempted to put it in the S tier. In the right hands I think this can be even scarier than the sniper imo.
You just dont understand the ravager. Yeah, it's not good for slayer. But for total control or ctf it's a super useful tool. Just because it doensnt do a ton of damage, doesnt mean it can set you up to wipe the entire enemy team with your primary damage dealing weapon
Here is my opinion on the weapons I hate the battle rifle for the reason it gives a glare every time u zoom into basically it gives away your position hate the commando because it take a full clip to kill own person fully shielded it was heavily nerfed waaay more then It should have been but love the assault rifle the pistol and bulldog love the Magnler bow hydra is too slow both on reload and fire rate the hammer is too slow on it melee when it’s not a charged hit those are my probs with weapons
Bro, you are sooo wrong about the Cindershot. You can wreck shop with it. It’s definitely at least A tier. Also the disruptor is good if you use it right. It’s at least C tier.
I hate the sidekick. Everyone uses it. I miss the magnum. Side arm should shoot slower and shots matter. Not just omg spam it spam it o wow I reversed that fight
But it's not a magnum replacement. It actually works fine for its place in the sandbox as something fast to swap to in order to finish a weakened enemy, and it has 2 other niches in that it can melee slightly faster than with a rifle, and it can kill faster than even the BR, but you have to land all your shots. Because it has a lower RRR and bloom, it has limited effectiveness at range when compared to a BR. That's good because otherwise it would start to outclass other weapons in their respective roles. I do hope we see the H5 magnum make a return as the starting weapon in ranked for at least a season in the future. Semi auto weapons inherently take more skill to use than a burst weapon like the BR and I'd like to see how it plays in Infinite. Without thrust being a default ability idk what tweaks it might need to keep it balanced though.
You don’t even have to perfect with it for it to have a better TTK than the BR. It’s very good, but I agree that the last headshot to kill can be difficult at times with the aim assist loss on unshielded enemies
@@koobski How does it "outperform" the AR? Are you using the AR for its intended role in the sandbox as a shield shredder and then following that up with a single headshot by swapping to a BR or sidekick? Are you burst firing the AR or holding it down and just waiting for your kill to come to you? Are you comparing a body shot-only AR to a perfect TTK from the Sidekick? It sounds like what you are saying is that's not how YOU want it to be because you don't want to play Infinite for the game it is and learn to use the sandbox because of how something was in a past Halo better suits your idea of how things should be useless if they are just the side arm. If the sidekick was nerfed, BR's would become EVEN MORE of a power weapon in Quick play than they already are. It gives players a fighting chance at pop shotting a player with the BR off in the distance, otherwise it would turn into a game of whoever controls the BR wins the matches. That is not healthy sandbox balancing. The Sidekick has 1 advantage over the AR, and that's range. But it has a low RRR and RNG bloom, so that's the tradeoff of it being able to land shots from a distance. You can also strafe a sidekick infinitely easier than an AR in order to make the sidekick miss, punishing them pretty harshly with its low clip size. The AR absolutely shreds within its effective range. If you don't think so, take the advice from all the casuals to the Halo pro's in regards to the Mangler controversy and adapt and get good at the game.
Personally I would move sentinel beam, and cinder shot A tier. Move ravenger and pulse carbine to B tier, and move commando down to c Tier, but other than that I agree
You are wrong about the plasma pistol emp, they fixed that a long time ago. Cindershot deserves A tier. Stop comparing it to the rpg. That has no bearing on how it compares to all weapons it is extremely powerful. The gravity hammer completely counters the energy sword as well so it deserves A tier as well not even mentioning the fact it could kill a whole team in one swing. Just go watch single halo clips. Unquestionably should be S tier with that factored in. Lot of really bad opinions in here and you should look at others content before making your own because you did very little research and had poor structure to each reasoning. Time to kill is the most important stat, second is how it does the damage/how consistent, third is how it fills a niche in the game.
The Cindershot is not a banished weapon it is forerunner, sorry about that one
You gotta give the Cindershot another try. It's more like the reach Nade Launcher than a rocket launcher. Gotta bounce those shots before it explodes, or go for a direct hit.
With some practice it's extremely deadly. You can literally chase people around corners with alt fire.
Yeah. It's essentially a grenade launcher.
My dude put the Cindershot in the C tier? Really!? The weapon that can 2 hit people, has 12 shots, hinders movement, blinds them, and shoots around corners... Is a C!?
Edit : Oh. He says it sucks because he's using the aiming mode. Yeah... Use the normal mode buddy...
Yeah tracking mode is for long range
Commando over Cindershot? My guy...
Cindershot? C tier?
It's potentially the strongest overall weapon in the game
2:55 banished version of the rocket launcher 🤦♂️
Here’s my tier list.S,sword,rockets,sniper.A,br,hammer,cinder,heatwave,bulldog,skewer.B,mangler,shock,stalker,sidekick,sentinel,needler,disrupter,plasma pistol.C,assault,hydra.D,carbine,commando.F,ravager. This tier list was about the desirability of the weapons,not just the damage.
I agree with most of the list, but I would move the AR and sidekick up to A rank and the bulldog down to B. I feel the opposite on the bulldog and heatwave.
Great list, but the cindyshot is easily an A or an S. It's a multikill factory. Good video though!
Yeah I'd say A tier
Eyyyyy what’s up Nikos :)
@@Arrrash Yo howdy :D
i like it more than the rocket launcher lol
Skewer is at least A tier man, that thing is an absolute MONSTER and I LOVE it for that!
I think it can be very good, but against good players it’s not so good. I think B is fair but I do see why you love it 😂
Yeah I agree. Although you miss half your shots with it.
i agree. i at least think it should be above stalker rifle
Disruptor is slept on big time
Love your effort Arash. But clearly, NEEDLER SUPREMACY
😂 😆 😂
Instead of calling the pulse carbine a burst plasma pistol, I’d rather call it a long range needler,
Needler is A tier
Im sorry the bulldog is A tier but the cindershot is C? Are you tripping sac? This is user error you obviously dont know how to use it. Also ar and sidekick are easily A tier.
The ravager is best used like a plasma pistol in my experience but with extra area of denial.
When I use it like that I get much more sucess
I found one use for it it’s against lite vehicles such as ghost it deals decent damage to the Vehicle But the real strength is that if you hit anywhere on the vehicle, it pretty much always damages the driver
cindershot is OP bro def A tier at least!!
5:04.The disruptor. You said it yourself. It melts shields. Sure you should switch to another gun to finish the job. What's wrong with that? Halo is about combos right?
Disruptor/Sidekick is one of my favorite loadouts.
Also I slay with the cindershot. Am I just amazing or is it the gun? Probably the gun.
I can assure you it's the gun
Yeah Disruptor is one of the most slept on weapons. Can shoot them a bunch and just let the DoT kill them
Bonk
Dude… the disruptor is absolutely cracked, if u just hold fire and hit your shots it has a faster kill time than the sidekick. Like it kills so freakin fast if u hit your shots, but tbf that’s only at close range in ranked not against the AR. But against the BR in ranked it shreds so fast and with close range it’s easy to get the last kill headshot
Wow you were generous with the sniper. For a legacy weapon 343 tweaked and broke it doesn’t deserve S. its a B for me. I often leave it on the map these days.
disruptor is so good! just get 3 hits on the enemy, and they are effectively 1-shot for close to 12 seconds after the fight. great for team play
How do you feel about my tiers??
It’s pretty good.
sword is not an s tier weapon. its great for close range and closing off certain parts of the maps, its an a tier in my opinon. it can hurt your team if you try using it too often
@@josephmoore6518 have to disagree, I think it’s unquestionably an S tier weapon. However I will kinda meet you in the middle and say it’s Low S Tier, just how I think shock rifle is High A Tier
Skewer should be S. it’s a one shot kill. Only drawback is reload time. Plasma pistol can be devastating in the right hands and is too low. Needler is probably the easiest guaranteed kill for anyone who doesn’t know how to aim if you know it’s optimal range. It should be in b tier. The sentinel beam should be moved down a tier or even two because it is the worst at its optimal range and terrible outside of it (though maybe I just suck with it). Energy sword and gravity hammer should be one tier away from one another as they fulfill the same purpose with the same result 90% of the time. I’d probably move the sword down to A tier but depending on who you ask moving the hammer up to A is definitely debatable. If enemies are stacked it can be better than the sword though that happens rarely. Either one in combination with the grapple shot is S. Disruptor pulls down shields fast but it’s major advantage is that it leaves the shields down for an extended period of time after they have been stripped making it an effective weapon for team play. Though C or D is an acceptable tier imo. battle rifle is not an s tier weapon. You would drop it in a heartbeat for anything else in the S tier. Sorry if I’m being harsh but You put the skewer in the same tier as the commando and the sentinel beam
Good list and video, didn’t expect so many malders in the comments lmaooo
Shock rifle>br
The cindershot is NOT banished. Its forerunner
Cindershot is excellent but you may have to engage a second brain cell to unlock its full potential
Darn I only have one
I don't know about you, but I can't use properly the shock rifle. It's a sniper, but if you the head, it may not kill.
So, what does it do? How can I use it?
you have to make sure you track their head the whole "burst". Gets some getting used to
It’s like a halo 3 burst if that burst was lightspeed( try to shoot their head when they are standing still or barely moving, if they are moving good luck tracking the 3 shot burst. But seriously if they are moving I find that moving the crosshairs a little more ahead of them works) for ex if an enemy is sprinting to the left aim a little bit forward to the left and track their head
It’s very good tho. Best advice starting out I can give is don’t try to headshot ppl with who are streaming across screen/lane. If they are facing you and challenging you tho then they are in trouble 😈
Awesome video man 😎👍🏼. I really do hope they add the Promethean weapons, the SAW, the carbine, and the Magnum to the game soon.
You're forgetting the arc effect for the jolter. It's a quick way for multi kills
It has a splash damage effect
Great video. The cindershot is forerunner not banished.
It’s a literal rare achievement to kill someone with the ravager and it’s the only time I was able to kill someone with it
Is not that hard on strongholds or oddball you just need to shoot the special shot at the ball or a disputed territory
i woulda switched the shock rifle and skewer, but the ravager is definitely a portable dumpster fire
Somewhat agree with the tier.
I believe the worst weapon hands down is still the plasma pistol, followed by the ravager. With the ravager you can shoot and, if you're close (which is not intended for the weapon), melee for a kill. Still, I miss the beta ravager.
The Cindershot is lovely but I agree that for some reasons it feels less usable than other weapons, probably due to the unpredictable bounce.
From 343 I would like to see a buff or proper balance for the ravager, plasma pistol, plasma rifle and I guess the commando. I love the disruptor, but it feels like it can't be used as a utility weapon in many circumstances.
Anyway my favorite weapons are definitely the sidekick, the AR and the mangler. I love how the manger works, I wouldn't nerf it at all.
Could not disagree more about the plasma pistol. Hard counter to overshield in competitive play.
@@shellfall8526 I’ve never faced this situation, I’ll make sure to give it a try if I find someone using an overshield.
Still, I wouldn’t use it in any case, not even by charging the pistol, because the enemy can easily strafe and avoid it while I spent a second of my attack to charge it. I admit I don’t care if it’s weak, what it matters to me is if it has a purpose and is reliable in its role. The disruption is overall a weak weapon but can be using against multiple enemies nearby or to deactivate vehicles.
@@iKiwed yea, it’s better for popping around corners and shooting the charged shot to drain shields and then get a pick, don’t wanna be walking around with it all Willy Nilly. But for going around corners where you expect an enemy kinda close it works wonders for me
Pretty good list, most significant change i would make is put the needles up
Mayyybe to B Tier, some high lvl players are getting pretty good with it. But would struggle to see it go higher
Mangler doesn't need a nerf because the entire halo sandbox is fucked up. Not saying the sandbox doesn't work, but the mangler doesn't need a nerf. The entire sandbox just needs a rework
Plasma pistol is dog water rn, like it's abismal, I like the ravager I think it could be D tier cause it's aoe is at least useful unlike the plasma pistols non-existent tracking. Also The Pulse Carbine is one above the Plasma pistol wherever you place that, it has much better damage, tracking, range, it beats it out in almost every situation except maybe extreme cqb. One more thing, I hate the Shock rifle XD I cannot use it for shit but that's a much more personal take.
You know your bad at Infinite if you get killed by a ravager.
I have to disagree about the plasma pistol. While not even close to my fav secondary, it a very good secondary. And it being a counter to overshield gives it a lot of value in competitive play. I’d very confidently put it in the B tier
I also have to completely agree with shock rifle in the A tier, however I’m VERY tempted to put it in the S tier. In the right hands I think this can be even scarier than the sniper imo.
You just dont understand the ravager. Yeah, it's not good for slayer. But for total control or ctf it's a super useful tool. Just because it doensnt do a ton of damage, doesnt mean it can set you up to wipe the entire enemy team with your primary damage dealing weapon
why does it fall of the longer distances? it works just fine.
We agree on some and disagree on others, but a very solid video though!
My guy the needler is one of the best guns in the game
Here is my opinion on the weapons I hate the battle rifle for the reason it gives a glare every time u zoom into basically it gives away your position hate the commando because it take a full clip to kill own person fully shielded it was heavily nerfed waaay more then It should have been but love the assault rifle the pistol and bulldog love the Magnler bow hydra is too slow both on reload and fire rate the hammer is too slow on it melee when it’s not a charged hit those are my probs with weapons
Agreed with every pick
Why would he put the cinder shot in C it’s a power weapon and is very easy to kill people with
Bro, you are sooo wrong about the Cindershot. You can wreck shop with it. It’s definitely at least A tier. Also the disruptor is good if you use it right. It’s at least C tier.
I hate the sidekick. Everyone uses it. I miss the magnum. Side arm should shoot slower and shots matter. Not just omg spam it spam it o wow I reversed that fight
But it's not a magnum replacement. It actually works fine for its place in the sandbox as something fast to swap to in order to finish a weakened enemy, and it has 2 other niches in that it can melee slightly faster than with a rifle, and it can kill faster than even the BR, but you have to land all your shots. Because it has a lower RRR and bloom, it has limited effectiveness at range when compared to a BR. That's good because otherwise it would start to outclass other weapons in their respective roles.
I do hope we see the H5 magnum make a return as the starting weapon in ranked for at least a season in the future. Semi auto weapons inherently take more skill to use than a burst weapon like the BR and I'd like to see how it plays in Infinite. Without thrust being a default ability idk what tweaks it might need to keep it balanced though.
@@TheGirthwormJim when the side arm is the go to weapon in slayer. and it out performs the AR. It's a problem.
You don’t even have to perfect with it for it to have a better TTK than the BR. It’s very good, but I agree that the last headshot to kill can be difficult at times with the aim assist loss on unshielded enemies
@@koobski How does it "outperform" the AR? Are you using the AR for its intended role in the sandbox as a shield shredder and then following that up with a single headshot by swapping to a BR or sidekick? Are you burst firing the AR or holding it down and just waiting for your kill to come to you? Are you comparing a body shot-only AR to a perfect TTK from the Sidekick?
It sounds like what you are saying is that's not how YOU want it to be because you don't want to play Infinite for the game it is and learn to use the sandbox because of how something was in a past Halo better suits your idea of how things should be useless if they are just the side arm.
If the sidekick was nerfed, BR's would become EVEN MORE of a power weapon in Quick play than they already are. It gives players a fighting chance at pop shotting a player with the BR off in the distance, otherwise it would turn into a game of whoever controls the BR wins the matches. That is not healthy sandbox balancing.
The Sidekick has 1 advantage over the AR, and that's range. But it has a low RRR and RNG bloom, so that's the tradeoff of it being able to land shots from a distance. You can also strafe a sidekick infinitely easier than an AR in order to make the sidekick miss, punishing them pretty harshly with its low clip size.
The AR absolutely shreds within its effective range. If you don't think so, take the advice from all the casuals to the Halo pro's in regards to the Mangler controversy and adapt and get good at the game.
bro why he put stalker rifle above skewer?
This video should be renamed as "The objectively most shit Halo Infinite tier list"
Sure thing! When is yours coming out?
The order of colours on the chart just exploded 57 OCD sufferers 😉
And what does S stand for?
Personally I would move sentinel beam, and cinder shot A tier. Move ravenger and pulse carbine to B tier, and move commando down to c Tier, but other than that I agree
I think the needler is a d tier weapon. It’s needles travel to slow.
Cool video
Just starting the video if the mangler isnt on top im leaving
Skewer should be A from personal experiences. Dog water is an understatement for the ravager.
You are wrong about the plasma pistol emp, they fixed that a long time ago. Cindershot deserves A tier. Stop comparing it to the rpg. That has no bearing on how it compares to all weapons it is extremely powerful. The gravity hammer completely counters the energy sword as well so it deserves A tier as well not even mentioning the fact it could kill a whole team in one swing. Just go watch single halo clips. Unquestionably should be S tier with that factored in. Lot of really bad opinions in here and you should look at others content before making your own because you did very little research and had poor structure to each reasoning. Time to kill is the most important stat, second is how it does the damage/how consistent, third is how it fills a niche in the game.
is it just me or does the battle rifle and assault rifle feel terrible, they're a last resort other than that i don't use them.
Only thing I disagreed with is having the Skewer in B Tier. I think it belongs in S tier
nah, can't agree at all.