Three Sieges of Ba | Liu Yan Legendary Max Trade-Offs Let's Play E03

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  • @eVeNmOrEiNsAnItY
    @eVeNmOrEiNsAnItY 3 роки тому +21

    The Three Sieges of Ba sounds like an actual event from an alternate 3K timeline.

    • @hongwu1691
      @hongwu1691 3 роки тому +7

      If I remember correctly, the mongols put a sieged in Diaoyu Cheng/Shan, or the Fishing City/Mountain, and that city should be in Ba(not the farmland part). So basically mongols emperor sieged it for months or years, I can’t recall exactly, and he died there, and the mongol empire split afterwards.

    • @SeriousTrivia
      @SeriousTrivia  3 роки тому +2

      Yep that is correct!

  • @tkhcheng
    @tkhcheng 3 роки тому +8

    in the first siege of Ba, I was yelling at screen to move the stakes and oil in front where the trebs, as that would be a front line + scorched earth tactic where you can withdraw the treb as soon as the calv gets close. The AI will always frontal charge the treb since you have no polearm units protecting it. Much more efficient in grinding them down to the 10% threshold that could've keep it out of 2nd or 3rd siege.

  • @imnotyomama6413
    @imnotyomama6413 3 роки тому +8

    this has to be one of the most intense episodes of any of your let’s plays in a long time.. almost as good as the shock we got in episode 4 of your play through with MrSmartDonkey

  • @martinp3166
    @martinp3166 3 роки тому +4

    Hi St, just wanted to give a genuine thank you for your regular uploads and for all the prep you do to keep it going. Much respect for your work and professionalism

  • @ketansingh3397
    @ketansingh3397 3 роки тому +3

    @SeriousTrivia hats off to you brother!! All trade offs active .. as usual you succeeded where I failed.. I couldn’t make do with satisfaction and public order penalties..smartest 3K player ever..

  • @oyunkahvesi7059
    @oyunkahvesi7059 3 роки тому +6

    Really like your Three Kingdoms contents. Keep up the good work!

  • @curiousoliver
    @curiousoliver 3 роки тому +6

    Gan Ning starts with the twin marital ji

  • @EmperorsVenetians
    @EmperorsVenetians 3 роки тому +5

    Fan Min clearly cheating by fixing all the towers between battles even though they didnt have a turn to repair the city.

  • @ericbrock5405
    @ericbrock5405 3 роки тому +6

    it seems like ji and twin ji are only equipable on Champions and some of the generals that can equip more than their class normally can like Sun Ren, which is a shame because they are so versatile and good on many generals. On a seperate note I really hope Wutugu becomes a free lc faction because he is literally the Nanman Lu Bu

  • @kwuait16
    @kwuait16 3 роки тому +1

    @ 13:05 you can press backspace to stop the army moving in case you made a mistake. as you could have stopped to asses the situation and decide if you want to retreat or commit to the attack.
    pretty handy when you go into fog of war enemy land.

    • @SeriousTrivia
      @SeriousTrivia  3 роки тому +1

      stopping would have been worse...stuck in the river (like once we saw him the only safe route was to reach and take the city...)

    • @kwuait16
      @kwuait16 3 роки тому +1

      @@SeriousTrivia but you still have the movement its not like you lose it. you can still go for the attack or change your mind. you could have just went back to your settelment as you didn't lose much movement before seeing him so you would have plenty to run. but anyway its just fyi in case you didn't know about the backspace

    • @SeriousTrivia
      @SeriousTrivia  3 роки тому

      oh no worries I am well aware of the backspace trick

  • @acidosis1985
    @acidosis1985 3 роки тому +2

    Defense of Ba....awkward moment when Zhang Liao would come in handy in this situation, when usually he is pretty much useless.

  • @stalkob6649
    @stalkob6649 3 роки тому +2

    It seems like the best way to get duels is to farm rebels. All of them wanted to duel with Liu Zhang. I somehow managed to inherit at Spring 194 with all of the trade-offs and goals complete. I love how you still manage to do a good job considering the not so good RNG.

  • @ronbialkowski9883
    @ronbialkowski9883 3 роки тому +2

    I am confused about the buffs. When I played, I was able to designate the counties for the buffs (example, I constantly renewed a buff for Shu).

  • @DarthBodya
    @DarthBodya 3 роки тому +4

    I wonder, if you help Ma Teng by event at the beginning with his campaign, is that mean Ma Chao and Ma Dai can come to your court?

    • @SeriousTrivia
      @SeriousTrivia  3 роки тому +3

      someone says it allows your two sons to come back to you, but even in this case, we got them back without the event doing that

    • @stalkob6649
      @stalkob6649 3 роки тому +1

      @@SeriousTrivia I can comfirm. I didn't send any help to Ma Teng and the sons returned via event the next turn. I had to cough up 2500 copper and then recruit them again. Ouch

  • @Aahe42
    @Aahe42 3 роки тому +5

    Very sad seeing you not being able hold the city after those impressive battles

  • @TheStormfury
    @TheStormfury 3 роки тому +3

    Your keeping Liu Zhang as the heir? I know he is a commander and the inheritance buff, but really was hoping you would get a more martial Character (like Ma Chao) to get the fighting buffs for an early inheritance. Man, looks like i got to play it myself if i want that to happen.

    • @SeriousTrivia
      @SeriousTrivia  3 роки тому +1

      I mean 10% melee evasion is not much of a combat buff and vanguards are broken right now with their -18 roar so you don't really need them for actual fighting. Just run in there and roar rinse and repeat

    • @TheStormfury
      @TheStormfury 3 роки тому

      @@SeriousTrivia I understand... i just love Ma Chao (nothing to do with history really, just really loved him from Dynasty Warriors, badass model). However I've now changed my mind and working to the goal of trying to make a warrior strategist, should be interesting. Just need to find the right character to try and improve.

  • @tkhcheng
    @tkhcheng 3 роки тому +1

    @ST FYI: the playlist in the description is for the Cao Cao campaign

  • @AndrejPtk
    @AndrejPtk 3 роки тому +2

    Marital ji is for champions, probably vangs too. It's a spear type weapon.

  • @necrolicious
    @necrolicious 3 роки тому +2

    I just heard an interesting fact, did you know the Cao family is credited with creating one of the most famous chinese pork dishes? it's named after Cao Eet and Cao Err.

    • @SeriousTrivia
      @SeriousTrivia  3 роки тому +1

      Never heard of these names?

    • @necrolicious
      @necrolicious 3 роки тому +1

      @@SeriousTrivia lol, it's a joke, Cao Eet and Cao Err? sweet and sour?

  • @r.assawa7840
    @r.assawa7840 3 роки тому +2

    Martial ji usually go to sentinel, but for some reason this DLC change it to champion and vanguard

  • @TheAzelflover
    @TheAzelflover 3 роки тому +2

    I think you select what county you use the inheritance for

  • @simhksim
    @simhksim 3 роки тому +11

    There's 3 private vids in this playlist so I am guessing you prerecorded alot

    • @SeriousTrivia
      @SeriousTrivia  3 роки тому +20

      Yep playlist detectives can always find out how I am doing in terms of prerecording ;) I mean with about six different series going on right now, prerecording is pretty much a must

    • @EAfirstlast
      @EAfirstlast 3 роки тому +5

      @@SeriousTrivia :P I doubt anyone minds you prerecording XD

  • @caocalo2485
    @caocalo2485 3 роки тому +1

    @Serious Trivia the big suffering 😅

  • @Gobboh
    @Gobboh 3 роки тому +1

    I dont know why I ask this here and now but is there a way to recruit a retinue for an administrator?

    • @SeriousTrivia
      @SeriousTrivia  3 роки тому +4

      just summon your administrator on the field, recruit them a retinue, then recall the group and they will arrive in your commandery by the next turn

  • @TheJoyprice
    @TheJoyprice 3 роки тому +1

    How are you getting movement reset when you change captain? Could you explain please?

    • @SeriousTrivia
      @SeriousTrivia  3 роки тому

      When you recall the first general you summon you reset the movement of the other generals in the army that were also summoned this turn. It’s an exploit for getting movement on the turn you summon generals by using a proxy general to recall back so everyone else get movement

    • @TheJoyprice
      @TheJoyprice 3 роки тому

      @@SeriousTrivia thanks for explanation. I'm itching for next episode.

  • @cruderaven3424
    @cruderaven3424 3 роки тому +1

    Idk if this is addressed in another video but was surprised you gave up trying to get ma chao

    • @SeriousTrivia
      @SeriousTrivia  3 роки тому

      I still get him soon though lol I just don't want him as a my heir (so getting him now makes him difficult to keep happy while if I wait closer to the inheritance I don't have to worry about it)

    • @cruderaven3424
      @cruderaven3424 3 роки тому

      Is it because vanguards dont have good leading potential? I'm trying one out just to see how beefy I can make him with the buffs.

    • @SeriousTrivia
      @SeriousTrivia  3 роки тому +1

      I mean it’s the low authority plus the minus 30 points of satisfaction that I have to deal with right now

    • @cruderaven3424
      @cruderaven3424 3 роки тому

      Ah! I see, that dang satisfaction. Keep up the good work sir!

  • @Fidel17011984
    @Fidel17011984 3 роки тому +2

    Kind of struggling campaign, keep it up! I am personally fond of Liu Yan unique units, spearmen ones. Too bad they are limited though.

  • @markpurcell4674
    @markpurcell4674 3 роки тому +1

    Do you know who Fan Min is or is he just a random general?

  • @lkm7
    @lkm7 3 роки тому +1

    ST you should do a no artillery units campaign since you do use them too much usually and they really make the campaign too easy. (also no units with shields campaign)

    • @SeriousTrivia
      @SeriousTrivia  3 роки тому +1

      so basically more pain lol

    • @lkm7
      @lkm7 3 роки тому

      @@SeriousTrivia yea maybe the next campaign... XD

  • @christiandauz3742
    @christiandauz3742 3 роки тому +4

    In one of the ROTK games both Liu Yan and Gongsun Zan both control a city during the YT start date. Wish CA would do the same for Mandate of Heaven (it should be a miracle for the Zhang brothers to make it to 186)
    Shi Xie, Kong Rong, Yuan Shao and Zhang Yan should be playable in 182, starting out with no settlements
    Since 16 is the age of adulthood thanks to a patch Sun Ce should be a playable Vassal Faction in 190 CE. Start out close to Yan Baihu (Lu Bu should be a vassal in both 182 and 190)
    Likewise Sun Quan, Zhao Yun and Jia Xu should be playable vassals under their respective overlords. Fates Divided is where CA is showing how cheap they are. Less Lords/Factions than 190

    • @christiandauz3742
      @christiandauz3742 3 роки тому

      @William Ku
      Your the dumb one. Sun Jian never was an independent faction
      The Three Founders shouldn't be playable in 182 either
      Guess you want only three playable leaders by the time of Three Kingdoms. Liu Bei, Cao Pi and Sun Quan 'So much playability' (Sarcasm)
      'Players' like you are the reason abusive companies like EA exist. Why CA gets away with Blood DLCs. Loot Boxes and 'Live Service' crap

    • @Strykeypoo
      @Strykeypoo 3 роки тому +3

      >Sun Ce should be a playable Vassal Faction in 190 CE. Start out close to Yan Baihu (Lu Bu should be a vassal in both 182 and 190)
      Pls no. Sun Ce independent in Jiangdong while Sun Jian exists in Jing hurts my soul. I don't think this is CA being cheap at all. I think three kingdoms fans, particularly the Chinese audience, would be horrified at an independent Zhao Yun faction outside of fictional starting date scenarios.
      I'd rather argue that 194 should have been the default scenario, with Zhang Xiu and Li Jue instead of Kong Rong and Dong Zhuo. This is the hill that I will die on.

    • @christiandauz3742
      @christiandauz3742 3 роки тому

      @@Strykeypoo
      Zhao Yun, Sun Quan and Jia Xu as PLAYABLE VASSALS
      Seriously, no one reads in UA-cam!
      No playable vassals = Only 3 Playable factions in the next start date, Three Kingdoms

    • @Bangke55555
      @Bangke55555 3 роки тому +1

      @@christiandauz3742 Correction, 4 playable factions at least. Gongsun Yuan, descendant of Gongsun Du still lives in the north and rebel against Wei. They can still have Nanman too. Not trying to dismiss your argument there, just pointing out a few factions that still exist besides the main three. Of course, I know these are very few.
      Edit: Spelling

    • @christiandauz3742
      @christiandauz3742 3 роки тому

      @@Bangke55555
      That is why PLAYABLE VASSALS will be implemented. Think Tokugawa clan in Shogun, expect less backstabbing
      Zhao Yun should be a Vassal of Liu Bei, retaining Gongsun Zang's mechanics. Tasked with defeating Cao Cao's vassal in the south
      Zhuge Liang has Tao Quan's population displacement mechanics. Main mission is getting and improving settlements next to Liu Biao
      Sun Quan should be a vassal of his older brother, retaining Heroism and Retinues.
      Zhang Yan, Jia Xu and He Yi as vassals for Wei. Jia has modified mechanics similar to Dong Zhuo AND Lu Bu (Can't gain political power by executing people unlike DZ)
      More Nanman leaders have to be added in later start dates. Shamoke and Mulu are going to either die or lose their independence
      Zhang Yan should be in MOH as he has the choice to stay out of the Mandate War or join it
      Yuan Shao should also be playable in 182 but in a similar position to Liu Bei and Cao Cao

  • @edwardmainwood4439
    @edwardmainwood4439 3 роки тому +2

    when is next early game guide?

    • @SeriousTrivia
      @SeriousTrivia  3 роки тому +4

      in less than an hour actually lol funny you should ask

  • @hongwu1691
    @hongwu1691 3 роки тому +5

    This is when you desperately need a concubine right?

    • @SeriousTrivia
      @SeriousTrivia  3 роки тому +4

      why stop at one lol

    • @hongwu1691
      @hongwu1691 3 роки тому +2

      @@SeriousTrivia my apologies. Let me rephrase, this is when you wish you had a harem of beautiful ladies.

  • @mohammedkhaled7145
    @mohammedkhaled7145 3 роки тому +1

    hi