Pretty drastic, considering that this was even after he already retired too, and a year after It already. Must be the shaving of the beard and the little showing of the body-down.
Ernie Johnson has a tougher job than we all realize. When they're cracking topics like that and Barkley's dropping "that's just a punk-ass move", EJ really manages the conversation well. That's not to say that American TV restrictions make it not as enjoyable as it could be, but EJ's really under appreciated as a TV professional.
+Tolu Ojo you're joking, right? Who do you think they pay more, Ernie Johnson or Shaquille O'Neal? What about EJ or Chuck? I'm not an insider or anything, but I really doubt that EJ is getting paid more than two hall of famers to appear on the show. EJ's is a fantastic, wonderful host, but that's just crazy.
EJ is litteraly the boss over that whole atlanta section of TNT including their entire show. He's litteraly the boss 2nd only to the owner in TNT he's almost worked there since TNT started
I guess you don't like tall guys with short girls...no I get what you are saying...but a tall person putting their arms around a short person does not have to be considered intimidating.
Charles's absolutely right. Management telling Coach about a private players meeting breaks confdentiality with that player. Thats a lot of trust lost in management by everyone, and Coach has every right to be mad. Why would he seek to protect them and not say anything? They sure didn't seek to protect him or the player!
I've been watching these guys for like 15yrs. Really hope someone complies all their highlights into a nice 15hr video so I can watch it every year like a good book.
Funny how SVG is looked at as being in the wrong by these former players. All he did was tell the truth, Dwight Howard is the one who created the problem.
I think Stan was in the wrong but my main problem is that he hung the management out to dry. If someone does tell him that in private, he doesn't need to like it, but telling the media the inner workings of the organization is extremely unprofessional and I'm surprised he has been able to get another coaching job. Notice how otis smith lost his job along with Stan? A scumbag move by Stan in my opinion.
That was the end of franchise player D12. He was hurt and unhappy in LA. Unhappy and misused in HOU, CHA, ATL and now has been humbled to the point of backup center to Javelle McGee. It took this guy 8 years to find his mojo again.
@@stephenstrang590 youre a moron hes a hall of fame player who led his own team to the finals then was an important role player on a team that won a title a decade later.
Van Gundy told the truth. That's what makes him great. Magic didn't like it, they fired him, and have had 6 miserable seasons as a result. Stan did the right thing. No BS. you ask a question you get the answer
Examples of private info: Player's wife is battling cancer; a player's child is in drug rehab; player X is on the injured list because he had a flare up with sickle cell anemia ... what is not considered private is a player going to the GM and asking for his coach to be fired ... Van Gundy had no duty to keep what he heard "private"
I agree with most of the points brought up. A private conversation should be kept private until a decision is made. If they had decided to get rid of SVG then I think it would only be right to not give a bs answer, maybe not so specific though. I also think that SVG has the right to say whatever the hell he wants if he knows he's definitely about to get fired and especially for that reason.
Unprofessional ? Putting in an awkward spot ? The guy who openly admits to his player wanting him out ? Not the player who goes behind his coachs back and asks for him to be fired and goes in front of cameras hugging that coach pretending he loves him and denying truth ? There's only 1 punk ass bitch here and his name is Dwight.
and you know the truth because.....? are you an internal employee of the magic organization? buddy you don't know shit all you believe is shit the media outlet writes for THEIR living and you eat it and you obviously don't know shit about working in a company or being a professional. If anybody wants anybody to get fired or whatever the last thing you want is to go in front of a camera and talk to the media and stir up a conflict. Stan Van Gundy should have been fired for that alone end of story.
When this happened I thought both were at fault, one was the fact that Dwight Howard told management he wanted Stan fired (which is the worst of the two) and then Stan for stating that to the media. But, the notion that a player has that much power, or feels like they have that much power over something human resources should have power over is absolutely ridiculous. For Howard to make such a demand instead of saying he has problems with Stan Van Gundy is just stupid, hence why I thought Stan's announcement to the media was an appropriate one, because the message that was sent was that all-star players have way too much power over a franchise and that for someone who is irrational and deceptive off the court to have that kind of influence is absolutely dangerous for the sport of Basketball.
Lol look at at from a business perspective. Players are assets. The better the player the more valuable the asset. If the best and highest payed asset asks management for a change so he can bring even more to the table by swapping secondary assets (coaches), whos gonna say no to that? Athletes themselves are an investments. Matter of fact is; the owners don’t see them any different than assets and liabilities.
These are 3 players vs 1 coach. Stand talked openly and answered simple questions that everyone knew already. Dwight came over like the big man on campus and puts his arm around his shoulder like he is a teammate, not a coach, and lies like he didn't ask for his coach to be fired. Charles was on point and the fact Dwight asked for Stan to be fired should of been kept private all together.
Personally I don't think it's bad that Dwight asked the management to get him a different coach. If he thought that he could achieve something with that team and coach was the one who was slowing the process he as at that time a top 3 player in the league had a right to do so. His conversation with the management just should have stayed private.
He agreed to not opt out if they got a new coach and then demanded a trade before the next season began so the team appeased him and then he left anyways. What a douche - he fucked his coach and didn’t have the balls to own it, fucked the team he committed he’d stay for at least a season in exchange for firing coach, and then forces out anyways and plummets a team that had recently been in the finals. Couldn’t have been any more of a sleazeball in every stage of this thing
I’m here after seeing SVG on the knuckleheads podcast. He admitted there that him revealing that probably helped to change the perception of Dwight around the league and to the media/fans and that change in perception is probably what contributed to him being left off the Top 75 list
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Damn, Shaq looks so different here lol
He just reitred. Was still in decent shape. Lol
Meanwhlie, Kenny hasn't changed lol.
U didn't need captions back then for shaq lol
And wasn’t being a lil bitch
@@Mrcheeks619 4 rangs
I can’t believe this was 8 years ago lol. Look at Shaq good lord
Papa johns be hittin different when you retire
Pretty drastic, considering that this was even after he already retired too, and a year after It already.
Must be the shaving of the beard and the little showing of the body-down.
Chuck too
The thumbnail of Shaq was the only reason I clicked on this video
100
Why does 8 years ago look like the 90’s I’m getting old asf
Fr
Bro 8 years ago looks like the 70s right now I feel you
@@chll3194ch it's 12 year ago now
took them too long to change the TNT set looks so out dated then lol
@@NikhilKumar-fo5onyeah bro that's how math works
Ernie Johnson has a tougher job than we all realize. When they're cracking topics like that and Barkley's dropping "that's just a punk-ass move", EJ really manages the conversation well. That's not to say that American TV restrictions make it not as enjoyable as it could be, but EJ's really under appreciated as a TV professional.
+Tolu Ojo you're joking, right? Who do you think they pay more, Ernie Johnson or Shaquille O'Neal? What about EJ or Chuck? I'm not an insider or anything, but I really doubt that EJ is getting paid more than two hall of famers to appear on the show. EJ's is a fantastic, wonderful host, but that's just crazy.
EJ is litteraly the boss over that whole atlanta section of TNT including their entire show. He's litteraly the boss 2nd only to the owner in TNT he's almost worked there since TNT started
pursuer24 barkley was telling it like it is bringing the truth to the table in an American way he knows his limitations obviously
he's been at Turner since 1989
pursuer24 hell yeah he is! He keeps them in line too while still making the show entertaining ! This is why this is the best show
shaq needa lose weight so he can have his voice back lmao
ItzRushHour right
Wym have his voice this was 8 years ago lol. He got older.
Whats crazy is, in the NBA, this is FAT SHAQ. Lmao
Shack is fucking jacked and in great shape still. He’s older and his voice is deeper
Andrew Avalos Nah he had lost weight at this point, fat Shaq is 2020 Shaq
Perfect Diet Pepsi advertisement.
On wikipedia...the Picture With diet pepsi
Dwight putting his arm around a very short Van Gundy was so disrespectful and intimidating.
I guess you don't like tall guys with short girls...no I get what you are saying...but a tall person putting their arms around a short person does not have to be considered intimidating.
@@omart8243 Nahhhh, Dwight knew what he was doing. He was trying to "little boy" him.
Omar T Dwight tried sonning SVG. Read the room, Omar.
van gunny wiped his balls with that.
Big guys bleed too lol. Never be intimidated.
Their table is soooo small looking at how things are now with Inside the NBA 🤣🤣
Lmao
that Co-Vid
It bigger for social distancing.
Dwight putting his hand around Stan is one of the most embarrassing moments in NBA history
Loser dwight Howard always been a joke. 🤡
Why? I don’t understand
@@WyWid in city terms... he got sonned aka little manned
Crying 11 years later ahahaha
I know he wanted to be like get the fuck off me
Shaq: "Trust me! It's been done before!"
Translation: "Trust me! I did it before!"
Probably when Stan coached him in 05 lol
In the new documentary teaser they posted Chuck said that they almost fired Shaq when he came to TNT. I don't know if he wasn't talking about that lol
Yup with stan and dell Harris
Kobe did it to him or am I wrong
@@michamarczuk1420 that was cuz of the JaVale McGee situation most likely. I think everyone knew at the time. That's why Chuck could say that publicly
Shaq aged a lot in 9 years damn
Charles's absolutely right. Management telling Coach about a private players meeting breaks confdentiality with that player. Thats a lot of trust lost in management by everyone, and Coach has every right to be mad. Why would he seek to protect them and not say anything? They sure didn't seek to protect him or the player!
Unless they were trying to say, “hey, he wants you fired... can you improve the relationship?”
Charles Barkley: "I want to go right for the juggalo on this one."
*Me looking for ICP in the studio*
Goat comment
I was totally think ICP when he said that. They need to sound bite this in a future mixtape
Wow Shaq looked so slim here, only a year after he retired. And that was when he was actually already considered fat in comparison to his younger days
Exactly.
I've been watching these guys for like 15yrs. Really hope someone complies all their highlights into a nice 15hr video so I can watch it every year like a good book.
This looks like Kenny Smith from 2020 travelled back in time to do a show
Shaq said it's be done before !!! 😂😂 👉 Shaq and Alonzo Morning did it to Stan Van Gundy in Miami lmfaoooooo
W
+Byzantium
Lol
Stan almost choked on his soda when he heard Dwight’s voice lol 😂
He Made a bee line outta there too. The Little Coward….
@@exclusivefootage6704 stfu you loser, you would have done the same thing
Nobody:
Charles Barkley: “like I say”
Like I say LOL.... A classic Charles imitation, must use "Like I say."
"It's been done before." Shaq outing himself.
Nah he talking bout how they got his ass out LA
this was peak inside the nba 😭
Shaq has aged the most of everyone on inside
TheShachattack13 giants age a faster than normal size humans
TheShachattack13 he’s diet is terrible
Him losing his sister and Kobe didn’t help either.
Probably has the most money as well though
It’s because of the hookah
Shaqs voice was so much clearer, you can actually understand what he's saying back then 😂
Kenny still looks the same 👍🏿
still looks the same
Yep
Black don't crack
Kenny looked 53 his whole life
Kenny looks the same since his playing days.
Funny how SVG is looked at as being in the wrong by these former players. All he did was tell the truth, Dwight Howard is the one who created the problem.
yeah lets start dropping bombshells on gameday stay classy SVG.....
I think Stan was in the wrong but my main problem is that he hung the management out to dry. If someone does tell him that in private, he doesn't need to like it, but telling the media the inner workings of the organization is extremely unprofessional and I'm surprised he has been able to get another coaching job.
Notice how otis smith lost his job along with Stan? A scumbag move by Stan in my opinion.
"I wanna go right for the juggalo"
😂😂😂
Woop wooooop
🤣 🤣
That was the end of franchise player D12. He was hurt and unhappy in LA. Unhappy and misused in HOU, CHA, ATL and now has been humbled to the point of backup center to Javelle McGee. It took this guy 8 years to find his mojo again.
"DeWight Howard" - Charles Barkley.
I love this show sooo much. Its so funny and informational about the nba. been watching the show for a long time
Informative dude
Damn. Shaq did let himself go
Hahaha this remind me what they said about him when he came back in 2004 lol
Shaq aged fast because of all those dang kids he got!
Dwight went from All-NBA to bench guy in record time
It took like 4 years after this was aired. What are you talking about
Shaq and Charles were in shape 😂
You know shaq wanted to go for SVG's jugular. Not to mention he is one of those players who didn't respect SVG because he had no rings.
Shaq--born on third base, thought he hit a triple.
Shaq had a lot to do with why Van Gundy got fired in Miami, I think that gets overlooked.
"Ill get my crack"- Kenny Smith 3:31
chriskb2495 haha well done
😆😂
8 years later, still one of the biggest disappointments in NBA history.
Well he won a chip at least and played his part. Lakers look lost without a center
@@moeswagger2329 your are right they are so lost that even lebron played at center
@@moeswagger2329Bubble-chip..🤫🤣
@@The_M0st_High Bubblicious 😂
Man Shaq has aged so much in 5 years. Dude looks like hes just coming into the league in this.
BweezyM I think it’s that weight he put on
Kenny: I know some skeletons, ain't nobody getting fired around here! lol
Dwight's face was too funny lmao
Kenny will never understand it, he was never been "the guy" so he can never demand anything.
Shaq looks like 2000 Diesel. Lean and you can actually hear what he says without taking off all the bass from your speakers
Charles and Shaq look like they were ready to play the next day
Shaq hates SVG because he called him out as a flopper...Welcome to DEETTRROOOIITTT BAAASSKKEETTBBAAALLLLLL SVG!
Jeff Lisiecki SVG doing the same thing
Well 4 years later and that didn’t go well at all.... and I’m a Pistons fan
Lol
Lmao this didn’t age well.
Oof
LETS BE REAL STAN VAN GUNDY WAS THE BEST MAGIC COACH IN THE LAST 20 YRS
Let's be real Dwight Howard was never what he thought he was and his legacy is a big yawn.
@@stephenstrang590 youre a moron hes a hall of fame player who led his own team to the finals then was an important role player on a team that won a title a decade later.
@@stephenstrang590he needed a Chris Paul or a Kobe on that Magic team. Someone to carry the load and mentor Dwight. He was a lone bus driver
6:35 Ernie calmed things down XD
Van Gundy got the hell outta there quick fast and a hurry lol
Man shaq looked good
Love Stan honesty 😂😂😂
Who’s on the left? Is that kg?
“I go we go” loyalty right there 🙌🏾
No he’s saying if you guys bring me down I’ll bring you down
@@henrys5098 Right 😆
Shaq looks unbelievably different in 9 years.
Inside the NBA back in their prime 😢
Wow Shaq looks good here.He put on too much weight now i guess?
Age
Papa John's
@@abox6562 age does t make you fat. Eating too much makes you fat. You're supposed to eat less as you get older
Haha Shaq looking so young here 💯💯
Why does shaq look 15 years younger than he is now?
God I love these guys!
Pause
EJ is lowkey the smoothest guy up there.
Holy fuck. Shaq man looks like a beast here.
6:58 The "Sprint" halftime report is brought to you by "Sprint". Thanks for clearing that up.
Right because I thought it would be Cheetos
Van Gundy told the truth. That's what makes him great. Magic didn't like it, they fired him, and have had 6 miserable seasons as a result. Stan did the right thing. No BS. you ask a question you get the answer
Chuck said right from the juggalo
"I go we go." Shaq at the end. HAHA!
Wow, Shaq really let himself go.
HENRYINC if you looked up his current workouts he’s still in shape
They’re so close together lol 2020 anyone?
Right it looks sooo weird looking back on these..
That little ass table😂😂that’s how you know shaq was way smaller back then💀
KENNY LOOKS THE SAME LMAOOO
Time flies :/
Shaq looks in shape!
Examples of private info: Player's wife is battling cancer; a player's child is in drug rehab; player X is on the injured list because he had a flare up with sickle cell anemia ... what is not considered private is a player going to the GM and asking for his coach to be fired ... Van Gundy had no duty to keep what he heard "private"
I agree with most of the points brought up. A private conversation should be kept private until a decision is made. If they had decided to get rid of SVG then I think it would only be right to not give a bs answer, maybe not so specific though. I also think that SVG has the right to say whatever the hell he wants if he knows he's definitely about to get fired and especially for that reason.
Dwight was so full of it haha
lol Shaq did the same thing to Van Gundy, haha
4:23 shaq speaks so clearly and fluently back then. Now he just mumbles and says rude things
Damn Shaq looks like he can still play lmao
REAL TALK!
i like the way Howard handled that question :)
Damn. Shaq looks like he's in prime NBA shape. LMAO.
Kenny literally looks the same. Man got good genes
Who misses this studio?
I miss this whole era. I used to wake up and watch nba tv it’s nostalgic now
The magic was a shit show at this time, still haven’t bounced back. But shoutout to Banchero, Franz, Bol Bol & etc, our future looking bright.
Classic Inside The NBA
When i saw this, i lost every and all respect for dwight. Even more so with his disastrous season with us a couple years ago..
+shad0w8 why?.. it was stan who made the unprofessional move and put dwight in the awkward spot
^lol you're ignoring the main reason he lost respect for dwight which is him asking to get his own coach fired...
+spacebjorn Everybody knows Dwight is a two faced bitching kid and he's doing it right now in Houston. Lmfao never change Dwight, never change...
Unprofessional ? Putting in an awkward spot ? The guy who openly admits to his player wanting him out ? Not the player who goes behind his coachs back and asks for him to be fired and goes in front of cameras hugging that coach pretending he loves him and denying truth ? There's only 1 punk ass bitch here and his name is Dwight.
and you know the truth because.....? are you an internal employee of the magic organization? buddy you don't know shit all you believe is shit the media outlet writes for THEIR living and you eat it and you obviously don't know shit about working in a company or being a professional. If anybody wants anybody to get fired or whatever the last thing you want is to go in front of a camera and talk to the media and stir up a conflict. Stan Van Gundy should have been fired for that alone end of story.
When this happened I thought both were at fault, one was the fact that Dwight Howard told management he wanted Stan fired (which is the worst of the two) and then Stan for stating that to the media. But, the notion that a player has that much power, or feels like they have that much power over something human resources should have power over is absolutely ridiculous. For Howard to make such a demand instead of saying he has problems with Stan Van Gundy is just stupid, hence why I thought Stan's announcement to the media was an appropriate one, because the message that was sent was that all-star players have way too much power over a franchise and that for someone who is irrational and deceptive off the court to have that kind of influence is absolutely dangerous for the sport of Basketball.
Lol look at at from a business perspective. Players are assets. The better the player the more valuable the asset. If the best and highest payed asset asks management for a change so he can bring even more to the table by swapping secondary assets (coaches), whos gonna say no to that? Athletes themselves are an investments. Matter of fact is; the owners don’t see them any different than assets and liabilities.
These are 3 players vs 1 coach. Stand talked openly and answered simple questions that everyone knew already. Dwight came over like the big man on campus and puts his arm around his shoulder like he is a teammate, not a coach, and lies like he didn't ask for his coach to be fired. Charles was on point and the fact Dwight asked for Stan to be fired should of been kept private all together.
Chuck always has the best points of view
Man Shaq looked like a rookie here
dayuumm when i saw dwight enter the picture..... AWKWARD
Personally I don't think it's bad that Dwight asked the management to get him a different coach. If he thought that he could achieve something with that team and coach was the one who was slowing the process he as at that time a top 3 player in the league had a right to do so. His conversation with the management just should have stayed private.
He agreed to not opt out if they got a new coach and then demanded a trade before the next season began so the team appeased him and then he left anyways. What a douche - he fucked his coach and didn’t have the balls to own it, fucked the team he committed he’d stay for at least a season in exchange for firing coach, and then forces out anyways and plummets a team that had recently been in the finals. Couldn’t have been any more of a sleazeball in every stage of this thing
Chuck going right for the “jug-uh-lurr”
love the color of the set. reminds me of green lantern
i saw the thumbnail and did a double take when i realized that was shaq, dude doesn’t even look remotely the same as he does now
Shortly after his nba retirement
Lol Dwight went up to Stan like a bully "Yea where not worried about that, right Stan?" -_-
Cuz he was guilty as hell
” I Go, We Go”
Hits differently now
damnnnn dwight been happy lol
"I go. We go" lmaoooo
great video, thanks :)
Only the OGs remember when the desk was this short 🙏💯
"If i go, we go. We all leaving." Hit different now.
shaq looks so good because he only retired about a year ago he was new to TNT at this time
Chris Weber fr nigga got fat as fuck in like 3 years he dark asf too😂😂
I’m here after seeing SVG on the knuckleheads podcast. He admitted there that him revealing that probably helped to change the perception of Dwight around the league and to the media/fans and that change in perception is probably what contributed to him being left off the Top 75 list