I have watched Joel Salitin videos, read many of his books, visited his Lunatic Farm Tour, watched Justin Rhodes videos, am currently watching his his American Farm Tour recorded in 2017, read books on developing pasture for winter foraging, AND SOMEHOW MISSED THIS CONCEPT!!! Thank YOU SO MUCH for posting this piece here on UA-cam for us all to discover and learn from! THANK YOU!
Thanks for sharing. This is how we all learn at a minimum cost. No one can dispute ongoing experimentation and documented (video) results. I admire your scientific mind. You are creating capital (self-taught knowledge) you can take anywhere and it can't be taxed. This kind of farming will replace conventional.
I have never mob grazed my cattle. I'm planning paddock sizes for 40 acres of pasture and have been concerned about sizes. This video was very, very insightful and appreciated. Thank you!
I really enjoy your videos and they are helping me to learn. My dad passed away 2 years ago and left me about 70 acres and cattle. I definitely has been a learning curve. Thankyou so much for your videos
Very clear and informative!! I appreciate your simple explanation. I’m about to start my first time cattle operation, and trying to absorb every possible info, so I won’t lose my pants. Thank you.
not to mention the fertilizer... and urine that get trampled into the soil along with the seeds and organic matter... good show sir.. .. truly enlightening..
Brother Jason; thanks so much for another excellent, highly informative video. These sure are helpful for my situation and the effort you expend to share your experience will have direct benefits for my new startup grazing farm. I kicked off October 1 and am still clearing/repairing perimeter fencing and installing water lines & valves. So, if you ever have reason to come to or pass through Alabama, you're welcome here. I'd be happy to treat you to some good fishing and/or buy you a good steak dinner!
Thanks Dave! Starting a farm is exciting. I remember just 5 years ago when I was removing wild rose bushes from the fences on our leased farm so we could get the cattle in. Now it's just a matter of maintaining fences and since we are organic, I just mow around them. Good luck with everything and if you ever have a question about anything, just ask! I sure do appreciate the invite my friend. Thanks again!
Thanks for this video and the few others with the new calf's I have gotten to watch so far. I like the fact that you are not afraid to do trial and error like others are. Also I believe that all natural feed and medicine is the proper answer. I am currently learning and will be starting my own farm with 2 calf's this spring and enjoy how you present your farm
I am glad your enjoying the content. I am learning a lot of this as I go and like sharing my experiences even though some of my plans do go as planned. Like the large calves all season but looking back it did teach me a lot. What kinda of calves are you starting with? Will they be bottle calves?
@@GrazingAcresFarm I have been looking into Black Angus but have not yet made a final decision. What I find and if I like what I see will determine my actual decision. The will be bottle fed and all grass fed as well. I have considered taking what you do as far as filming the progress as well
Awesome! I need to make a video on my bottle feeding method. I have 2 bottle calves and gave them both non-medicated milk replacer. One started to get raspy when it was young and I learned a few tricks. I need to share them soon. I like the idea of sharing your experience. You should!
Now you have a great replica of herds moving across the landscape, you might consider a flock of birds moving a few days behind to reduce pest pressure also giving you another source of income. Joe Salatin does a great demonstration of stacking multiple enterprises on the farm. Wonderful video, thank you.
Glad to see you posting videos again...great job on the pasture...i have about 30 head now and plan on implementing these techniques next spring, I have been perimeter fencing another 60 acres to almost triple the pasture I have, should have close to 90 acres to rotate through in 3 big pens, to be split into smaller paddacks...have a good day
Sounds like your keeping busy! I wish we didn't have as many pastures as we do and just had perimeter fence. Some of our pastures have the gate in the wrong location and a lot of time that causes half the herd to get confused when switching pastures. I need to spend some time this winter fixing that issue, I'm sure it would pay off in the grazing season. Glad to hear the farm is growing though, are you raising beef or dairy cattle?
I don't know much about shorthorns but the herefords I've had here before and they were easy to work, also always very calm. One of the bottle calves I purchased last winter is supposed to be a shorthorn but I am not sure she is. lol You'll have to give me your feedback when I share a video on my cattle's growth here in the next week or two. I'd also be interested in hearing how adding the goats goes. I've heard if water can get through fence then so will goats. lol Best of luck my friend.
Ty ill let you know about the goats...shorthorns are even calmer than Hereford a, very easy cattle to work...and such a good looking animal, prettiest cow there is to me
Thanks for bringing us along Jason, that's awesome. It works just like Greg Judy claims huh. That's good to know because we've got some of the saddest, most dilapidated pasture you've ever seen, lol. I think there were more dead cattle bones on my pasture farm then there was actual grass. The drunkard that ran cattle on it continuously for 30+ years free grazing...his idea of management intensive grazing and mob grazing was buy a lot of the cheapest old soft mouthed knot heads he could find or steal, back up to the gate and open the door and hope for the best when he came back needing to gather a few to sell for liquor money. Never cut a woody sprout or made a decent repair to a fence, let alone watch how he let the cattle graze. It's amazing how some people do things...or don't. I have a crop field that has all kinds of clovers and legumes come back every spring after a bean crop. The soil there is red and gravely (when you can see it) but the organic matter levels are pretty high and it always grows a hell of a crop of beans. I have to laugh when I see or hear people claim that this or that may work in other places but "it won't work here". No matter the soil type, this stuff works no matter where you're at if handled right.
It's sure does work if your not afraid to try it. I think getting past the fear is half of it. Like I say in the video "You have to experiment". Sounds like the guy the ran the land before was a real wiener and no wonder the cattle died he wasn't allowing rest periods. I like watching the neighboring farms do similar practices. Then they stare at me when we are grazing in December and January and haven't offered the 1st bale of hay. lol This year is much different though because of the larger herd, I am now offering a bale every few days.
Yeah that guy was a character. He finally was found dead under his tractor a couple years ago. I'm starting to see more people catch on to these improved techniques around here but there are still a lot of people that just let their cattle continuously free graze their entire farm here as well. Most keep their pasture grazed into the ground year around. It's almost amazing they can manage to keep the grass that beat down where we get 40+ inches of rain a year. I'm still working on my full grazing plan for all the farms here. I should end up with about a thousand acres of graze by the time I account for the 600+ crop acres in grazable cover crop. I'm having a real hard time getting covers established enough to graze behind beans and then I worry about having enough fiber in the lush green cover crops for the cattle. I think I'm going to go to alternating strips of corn with beans in the same field and lay out my paddocks across the strips. Thought being that the corn strips come out early and I can broadcast the covers in early september after corn harvest and at the same time broadcast across the bean strips at leaf drop. This should give me the time boost I need in the beans without having to drive through the beans and lose yield to seed the covers. Also will provide the fiber needed with the dry fibrous corn residue. Then just rotate the strips from year to year. Cattle will come off the crop fields in March and stockers sold and my herd cows will go back to grass which is generally starting green up here. Calf in May/June and reset the whole shebang. Still working on designing summer annual covers to graze to build soil faster on a few acres every year. I think if I work that right, it'll even out my grazing windows and rotations so they have prime graze all year. Hopefully I can manage without a single bale of hay...ever. What the hell is wrong with us that this stuff is exciting? I think we've got some issues, lol. (or it may be the money, chaching)
+Brent Great question..."What the hell is wrong with us"? lol I don't know anything about grazing crop land or I would throw in a few ideas of my own. From what I gather though, your plans sounds pretty good. All we can do is try and make changes as needed, right? I like that your planning to avoid using hay and I hope that works out for you. This will be our biggest year for hay usage since I've been managing our farm. Having the bigger herd still and with grass growth slowing down, it has caught up to us. I did find out yesterday that 17 will be leaving this Friday to go to owner farm for winter. He bales his own hay and he purchases the hay I feed here, so it's cheaper to take half back home. I have 130 bale on hold now and deliveries started last week. Fun, fun! At 40+ inches a year in rain we are pretty comparable. I track our rain fall here and last year we had 47". I think 2013 was one of the highest I've seen at 54". It amazes me how much difference there is between my reading and the local weather. So much fake news these days. lol Have a great day! 🙂
Hi Jason, I've been watching your bee videos for a long time and did not know you also had cows. I also have cattle in addition to bees. I live in central Florida so it's a very different environment, especially weatherwise. I would love to see more about how you create paddocks, which I assume are smaller sections of a pasture. Electric fences it appears. What kind, how do you move them. When you move the cattle so often, where do they get water? You mentioned finishers. Do you buy young calves and grow them out? How small and to how large? Sorry for so many questions,but it's fascinating to me. Here most ranchers are cow/calf producers. We have cows who raise their calves, which we then sell at the cattle auction usually when they reach 300 - 500 pounds. Bottle calves are also interesting. Would welcome more information on that subject too. Love all your videos. Thanks for sharing!!
Oh yeah, raising cattle is a blast! I love spending time in the pasture with them as they graze. I like watching my bees pollinate around the cattle. The paddocks are made up of poly wire and temporary step-in post. As far as water we have 28 water spigot scattered around 176 acres, so I designed a water sled I drag to each paddocks as the herd is moved. The water tanks hooks to one of the spigots and has an automatic shut-off float. (very handy) Most of my herd is owned by another guy, I am paid to manage them. I just started building my own herd in the last couple years, I have 9 head now, 3 of which are due to calve. The other guy was buying young cattle for me to finish but that is changing this year. We are going cow/calf this year. Pretty excited to have calf's on the way.
Outstanding insight I've seen some improvement on my 10 acres this year. I'm looking forward to trying this next year with narrow paddocks, can't wait.
Interesting...how does a cow start to ball (act) when you're around versus when you're not having to eat down the less tasty weeds? What do the cows do when they ball. I'm new to this and do open range roaming cattle...happy cattle. How do they act when you're there?
Here is a link to the charger we have megadepot.com/product/power-wizard-pw9000-110v-plug-in-electric-fence-charger-9-joule-output . We are also about 1/4 mile from charger.
You have to calculate how many cattle you have and how much they graze on day-for-day to move them for your sides of land and what they're going to eat what they can come back to one is nice fresh and green
Allan Savory has been saying this for years. He also advises everyone to double their Herd size. You might even want to try 15 foot wide with 100 head.
Do you water your pastures or they are rain fed ? I intend to start this type of farming it’s exciting and would want to know if the cow’s dung and urine are driving the growth of the pastures or I need to put the infrastructure for watering.
I am getting an 10 year idle pasture ready for next year. It is packed with goldenrods. I am worried the cattle may become sick from earing so much of it. Have u seen any negative effects from them eating it in large quantity? I have read online that it is toxic to them. Thanks. Love ur vids. Brett
To be honest, our cows have more than just goldenrod mixed in so I have never seen issues from it. I would mow it this year if I were you and keep it from going to seed. I would also being trying to get some carbon on it. Maybe buy some junk bales of hay and unroll them. The hay will break down and feed the soil. If you don't have a way to mow it drag something over it several times to knock it down.
@Grazing Acres Farm that is a good thing to show, but am just curious which I understand what you mean, but inerways would you be able to do the same thing in the sixty feet pen lots. As you did to the ten feet lots, but can you just keep the cows in the same sixty feet pen a little bit longer, so they'll have more time to eat and stomp down grass and weeds and other stuff.?? But inerways good video of that.
Grazing Acres Farm yeah I know that..lol but I wasn't sure if they would still do as much work if they stayed in the big pen for a little bit longer. But we would like to try to do something of rotational grazing? But we think we don't have the proper setup not enough pasture for one and two to many trees, and last but not lest three, people around here won't let us went or put property especially close by to are farm. But inerways again good video and thanks for replying back to me sir.
This was a very accessible introduction to mob grazing, thank you. How do you get water to the herd? I'm guessing they have access to a water in each paddock?
Thanks! I'm glad you enjoyed it. Our farm has 28 water spigots scattered around 176 acres, they are all supplied by 1 water well. It come down to at least 2 spigots per pasture. I made a portable water sled I move with the herd. I don't have a video on my current setup but here is the water sled I used to use ua-cam.com/video/alKFFsz-rWQ/v-deo.html
Love learning from your videos!! Curious what electric fence charger are you using and how many feet of polyrope are you using? I am hoping to get set up this coming summer.
So glad you enjoying the videos! Here is another video where I discuss our fence charger along with all the other equipment I use to graze. ua-cam.com/video/PP0grQwa4mQ/v-deo.html As for the feet of poly wire I use, I would say that at one given time I have roughly 1 mile setup at a time. But that can go up if you want to setup a few days ahead of the head. Save your money and buy poly braid not wire. powerflexfence.com/collections/powerflex-polybraid-1320/products/powerflex-polybraid-stainless-1320 It will last for years as it's way stronger. It about it the poly wire is one of the most important tools you have when rotational grazing. It keeps the livestock where you want them as long as it's hot. Once they realize it's not carrying much juice or none at all, they lose respect for it. Trust me, I learned the hard way but our pasture were very rough when we started grazing this farm. When you reel the poly wire in daily it eventually snags and that rips the connection making the current flow spotty. I tried several poly wire brands with the same results. Then I discovered the poly braid I suggested, I love it. I have 4 rolls now, trying to slowly wean out my reels of cheap poly wire.
hey i love your videos. i however happen o just be starting out where i have 5 acres of grazing land. it is mostly napier grass and king grass and cow peas and grass is as tall as 10 feet, how many head of cattle could i max out with?
Thanks! I would start small and add more as you see your pasture it keeping up. I don't want to say you can have X amount and be completely wrong. There is a lot at play in this question. Like what's your yearly rainfall? When do you experience drought? Or do you?
Do you think that the shape of the paddock, as opposed to size, makes a difference? I’ve got 10-13 Belted Galloways on 15 acres in Maine - which is to say on 2 very irregular shaped pastures. Only 2 water sources so sled won’t work. Started using smaller paddocks and moving them more last summer and it helped, but my area per animal was much bigger than what you’re doing here.
I am researching about rotational grazing. We are new to farming and have 1 cow and 6 mini goats and a 5ish acre field. I will be adding cows later but trying to come up with a rotational plan for now to improve the grasses, soil health etc. We just have native grass now. Do you have a recommendation for a rotational configuration to start with. I can adapt it later as we see what works but just not sure where to start! Have a blessed day!
from what I've learned from multi grazing animal that you moved Paddock The Paddock like cows pigs and chickens to scratch it all down meet the bugs at the pool you use smaller paddocks so they're not as picky and it keep the weeds down
What you have learned....Id like to know where you learned it from ? Cows....chickens..pigs....all pee and poop. Does a person expect the animal to come back the second time around and eat around their poop ? After ever second trip over the pasture they should be clipped and baled for hay ! Yes the manure is still there.....but the new green growth is much higher quality then the trees ( grass ) that was there !
We don't buy seed but we do bale graze which does reseed those areas. It's been awhile since I have seen this video but I think I remember the steers yo speak of, they were very nice looking when they left to be processed.
Jason, I get this is an old video, and you switched herds from Finishers to Cow/Calf sometine after this, but Im wondering: were your cows more likely to eat goldenrod after this mob event, or did they continue to avoid it if possible?
Wow, sounds like you've followed me for a long time. I appreciate that! I was just talking this week with the lady we lease from and this year is our 11th year running cattle on her land, 7th year as a cow/calf. Crazy how time flies! They avoid eating the goldenrod as much as possible unless forced to eat it sadly. I now mow spots that get thick with GR and that's thinning it out too. Best of luck!
@Grazing Acres Farm - Ever consider following your cattle with goats? They love to eat weeds like golden rod and ironweed that cows don't like to eat. Though 1 strand fencing isn't gonna cut it for goats. ;)
At one time, I had a deal worked out with the neighboring Amish to bring in their goats after I grazed with cattle. That turned into a huge mess and more work for me. They were supposed to tent the goats (watering in such) and never did. Of course, I couldn't let them go without, so I would do the needed work. They did bring them a portable shelter but that was about it. After about 2 months, I asked them to pull out to save my own time.. To be honest though, the goats were always grazing the pasture when I was there. There may have been a couple times I seen them around wild roses bushes but not many. I am well aware 1 strand will not hold goats. They say, if you can blow smoke through a fence, a goat can escape. lol
@@GrazingAcresFarm Use sheep, here they make more money than cattle, they can be trained to use electric fence, they will stay within it if there is feed, they will break out if there is nothing left, but I would be breeding them up myself, so that would be a long term thing if you wanted them to graze a strip like that quickly right behind the cows, if you get sheep that have just been on the land with not much contact, they may just go do as they like....and the breeds are different too, you would prob find it too much work, lot harder just doing the temp fence
Interesting to see your success with the long and skinny paddocks. I know in Joel Salatin's book he advocates square paddocks. What kind of advantages do you see with the narrow paddocks versus having a more square paddock with the same area? Is it the increased trampling?
I don't think the corners get grazed very well in square paddocks. In the long narrow padocks the cattle hit every single inch. Also trampling is increased.
Running my cows through my stockpiled hay field now, 10 head, 16ft wide 320ft long, working great but being very wet here in southern Ohio right now I sometimes have to move them twice a day which is no big deal.Gives me more cow time. Enjoy the video!!! @@GrazingAcresFarm
I would like to incorporate this practice on my farm. I’ve got about 100 pairs and run them on 1000 acres that is only separated into 4 different paddocks. Now my biggest concern is water. How the heck am I supposed to keep them watered when here’s just one dugout on each paddock. And these paddocks aren’t nice open square pastures, lots of openings and bush so it would be very difficult to have alley ways to the dugouts from each paddock
@Amaranthian450 Great question. I don't have this issue because we have water spigots in each pasture, several in some pastures. But what so people do it run black water pipe on top the ground from the water hole to the cattle. The pipe is hooked to a submersible pump. I have also seen people drop one end of pipe in water and suck on the other end until they had a flow. Of course this only works if the cattle are grazing ground lower than the water hole. You could also get a couple of the portable water totes that hold a few hundred gallons of water and just fill and move as needed. Jobe makes some great water floats that would work with this setup too. Best of luck.
Yes. Years ago there was a program that paid to install watering systems on farm land and the land owner used it. They had 27 spigots installed to a deep well with pressure tankS across 176 acres.
To be honest...I have never used a solar fence charger but if it's working for you go for it. What brand are you using? Our charge is a PowerWizard and it's 9 joules if I remember correctly. You have lowlines huh? I have raised a few of them and they were a blast to raise. They were all very docile and loved attention from me, like scratching their heads. They all gained weight very well too. I would love to have more of them one day.
this is gna sound sad but I have an acre of land with 2 horses, I know so small I do drag manure often, can I do this technique on such a very small scale??? where I live there is no horse to land restrictions so I was able to have 2 on less then 2 acres I dragged yesterday and it snowed just feeding hay now should I fence off parts to rest? its so small but a huge flat square acre. thanks
You sure can! This video was shot on our leased farm, back at my house I have a jersey steer on 1.5 acres and I section it off. Keep in mind though this is more a spring/summer things not winter. In the winter they have access to full pastures. Good luck!
@@GrazingAcresFarm thanks for the tips also do you think I should keep dragging manure or pick up and throw away I've done both and seen both and its way easier to spread then constantly try to pick up, 20 piles in a 24 hour period of time from 2 horses, they currently eat a bale of hay a day(24 hour) and of course gras is dormant and eaten , they have been here a month so far I just don't wanna kill the lawn its 90x 168 feet aproximately small run in in back and water and electric up by gate so not sure how to divide up in the spring so far hay is kept along front gate and also some in run in ( in a port grazor look up on you tube) this keeps my hay some what off ground but still mud
Long narrow lanes are especially great for horses as it imitates what they do naturally. You can have things of interest along the way, such as salt licks or a netting of hay. You will find it will make better use of the land available, hence longer rest periods for regrowth.
@@metalkingtohorses How is it going with the horses? I am just getting into farming, but my kids have sheep. They move them to fresh ground(mostly weeds) every few days. They need to move them more, but moving water is time consuming. Off the top of my head, I would divide up the pasture in 8 parts to begin with. keep the horses on the same pasture to allow the others to recover. Move the horses every 4-5 days. I would also get chickens to spread out the manure. like my kids situation, water is a pain. Use hoses or water line on top of the ground until you figure it out.
We lease this land and the owners used a program to install water spigots in all of the pastures. Some pastures have up to 5 spigots. In total the farm has 28 spigots.
The pipe is just standard black water pipe as far as I can tell. Looks like 1 1/2". My 2nd year running the farm I made the mistake of running a spigot over and had to dig it up and replace it. Wouldn't ya know it was the furthest from the pump and took and hour to just drain the line. lol
Great hands down proof of regenerative agriculture. Fat cattle salad bar beef. Our pasture 30 acres never looked that good. No mob to mow and fertilize. Do you add bio char to the mineral supplement? Great fertilizer and antacid. Doesn't hurt weight either.
Thanks for the kind words. I was really impressed myself and knew I needed to share this video. I am convinced anyone can do this and any number of livestock, you just have to confine them to make them competitive eaters. The only think I offer as far as mineral is Thorvin kelp and Redmonds #15 mineral salt. I honestly believe the kelp has helped us avoid pinkeye problems. Who makes this Bio Char and what is it?
I always believe in mix grazing or a sheep/goat herd. (which manicures the feed ratios. IE you let the goats/sheep heard eat those weed speices and leave behind the stuff that the cattle like. as time goes on the sheep/goat herd will reduce the population, once they reduce you cut back on the sheep/goat herd and mix it with the cattle herd)
I don't have grounding issues using the poly braid but I use quality stuff. I find the cheaper poly wires break but in most cases they are already used to it being hot. Our high tensile fence is grounded fairly well also.
Want faster results, push the system harder! What a simple an elegant concept, thanks for sharing your learnings.
My pleasure!
I have watched Joel Salitin videos, read many of his books, visited his Lunatic Farm Tour, watched Justin Rhodes videos, am currently watching his his American Farm Tour recorded in 2017, read books on developing pasture for winter foraging, AND SOMEHOW MISSED THIS CONCEPT!!! Thank YOU SO MUCH for posting this piece here on UA-cam for us all to discover and learn from!
THANK YOU!
stocking density is something that alan savory talks about a lot. if you haven't heard of him, check him out.
Thanks for sharing. This is how we all learn at a minimum cost. No one can dispute ongoing experimentation and documented (video) results. I admire your scientific mind. You are creating capital (self-taught knowledge) you can take anywhere and it can't be taxed. This kind of farming will replace conventional.
Thanks Don, I sure hope your right and conventional farming just goes away. People need to eat healthier and this is the first step.
I have never mob grazed my cattle. I'm planning paddock sizes for 40 acres of pasture and have been concerned about sizes. This video was very, very insightful and appreciated. Thank you!
Good luck!
I really enjoy your videos and they are helping me to learn. My dad passed away 2 years ago and left me about 70 acres and cattle. I definitely has been a learning curve. Thankyou so much for your videos
So glad the videos have been helpful. Sorry to hear about your dad though. You got this!!
Very clear and informative!!
I appreciate your simple explanation.
I’m about to start my first time cattle operation, and trying to absorb every possible info, so I won’t lose my pants.
Thank you.
Your cattle look great, your actions are working!
Good job!
Ashland Ohio
Thanks! Funny your from Ashland, that where the guy lives I manage this cattle for. lol Small world!!
Beautiful cattle. Great video with lots of content.
Many thanks
Excellent video with great details. Camera shots were spot on. Really appreciate you taking the time to explain everything.
Thumbs up! Very well done Sir. Many appreciate the time you took to show the change over time and the difference between the 60ft and 30ft. paddocks.
Watching you and Greg Judy has helped a lot. Thanks for the content on a smaller scale for us to reference. You considering cattle breed change?
Extremely helpful. I gonna go get some cows and try this!
This is awesome!!!!!! Wish I'd found this ages ago! BIG thank you!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Excellet way to show thebenifits of Mob Grazing.
not to mention the fertilizer... and urine that get trampled into the soil along with the seeds and organic matter... good show sir.. .. truly enlightening..
I will start a folder on my pc to keep track of this area and it's progress so I can share more on it in the future.
Thanks for sharing, really appreciate you taking time to post. God bless
Brother Jason; thanks so much for another excellent, highly informative video. These sure are helpful for my situation and the effort you expend to share your experience will have direct benefits for my new startup grazing farm. I kicked off October 1 and am still clearing/repairing perimeter fencing and installing water lines & valves. So, if you ever have reason to come to or pass through Alabama, you're welcome here. I'd be happy to treat you to some good fishing and/or buy you a good steak dinner!
Thanks Dave! Starting a farm is exciting. I remember just 5 years ago when I was removing wild rose bushes from the fences on our leased farm so we could get the cattle in. Now it's just a matter of maintaining fences and since we are organic, I just mow around them. Good luck with everything and if you ever have a question about anything, just ask!
I sure do appreciate the invite my friend. Thanks again!
thank you for sharing your thoughts and experience.
You might think about multi species of grazers to optimize a wider spectrum of plant species. Hair sheep seem to very successful and becoming popular.
What are hair sheep
@@leviherne6813 sheep that don't need shorn. they shed their winter fleece on their own.
they're raised for meat and some dairy
Thanks for this video and the few others with the new calf's I have gotten to watch so far. I like the fact that you are not afraid to do trial and error like others are. Also I believe that all natural feed and medicine is the proper answer. I am currently learning and will be starting my own farm with 2 calf's this spring and enjoy how you present your farm
I am glad your enjoying the content. I am learning a lot of this as I go and like sharing my experiences even though some of my plans do go as planned. Like the large calves all season but looking back it did teach me a lot.
What kinda of calves are you starting with? Will they be bottle calves?
@@GrazingAcresFarm I have been looking into Black Angus but have not yet made a final decision. What I find and if I like what I see will determine my actual decision. The will be bottle fed and all grass fed as well. I have considered taking what you do as far as filming the progress as well
Awesome! I need to make a video on my bottle feeding method. I have 2 bottle calves and gave them both non-medicated milk replacer. One started to get raspy when it was young and I learned a few tricks. I need to share them soon. I like the idea of sharing your experience. You should!
Well done Jason! I appreciate your wisdom and learning ideas.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Awesome video! Thank you for sharing on how to feed to control!
awesome work, keep it up and keep sharing. The world needs your help more than it realises.
Very helpful video. I'm getting ready to try strip grazing this late fall as soon as I can get my fencing materials. Thanks for the information.
Now you have a great replica of herds moving across the landscape, you might consider a flock of birds moving a few days behind to reduce pest pressure also giving you another source of income. Joe Salatin does a great demonstration of stacking multiple enterprises on the farm. Wonderful video, thank you.
Glad to see you posting videos again...great job on the pasture...i have about 30 head now and plan on implementing these techniques next spring, I have been perimeter fencing another 60 acres to almost triple the pasture I have, should have close to 90 acres to rotate through in 3 big pens, to be split into smaller paddacks...have a good day
Sounds like your keeping busy! I wish we didn't have as many pastures as we do and just had perimeter fence. Some of our pastures have the gate in the wrong location and a lot of time that causes half the herd to get confused when switching pastures. I need to spend some time this winter fixing that issue, I'm sure it would pay off in the grazing season. Glad to hear the farm is growing though, are you raising beef or dairy cattle?
Beef I'm running shorthorns and Hereford, have a couple baddies only black cow I like...lol
I'm getting ready to add goats in with the cattle as well in the spring
I don't know much about shorthorns but the herefords I've had here before and they were easy to work, also always very calm. One of the bottle calves I purchased last winter is supposed to be a shorthorn but I am not sure she is. lol You'll have to give me your feedback when I share a video on my cattle's growth here in the next week or two.
I'd also be interested in hearing how adding the goats goes. I've heard if water can get through fence then so will goats. lol Best of luck my friend.
Ty ill let you know about the goats...shorthorns are even calmer than Hereford a, very easy cattle to work...and such a good looking animal, prettiest cow there is to me
Very informative. So excited to try this out in spring!
Thanks for bringing us along Jason, that's awesome. It works just like Greg Judy claims huh.
That's good to know because we've got some of the saddest, most dilapidated pasture you've ever seen, lol. I think there were more dead cattle bones on my pasture farm then there was actual grass. The drunkard that ran cattle on it continuously for 30+ years free grazing...his idea of management intensive grazing and mob grazing was buy a lot of the cheapest old soft mouthed knot heads he could find or steal, back up to the gate and open the door and hope for the best when he came back needing to gather a few to sell for liquor money. Never cut a woody sprout or made a decent repair to a fence, let alone watch how he let the cattle graze. It's amazing how some people do things...or don't.
I have a crop field that has all kinds of clovers and legumes come back every spring after a bean crop. The soil there is red and gravely (when you can see it) but the organic matter levels are pretty high and it always grows a hell of a crop of beans. I have to laugh when I see or hear people claim that this or that may work in other places but "it won't work here". No matter the soil type, this stuff works no matter where you're at if handled right.
It's sure does work if your not afraid to try it. I think getting past the fear is half of it. Like I say in the video "You have to experiment".
Sounds like the guy the ran the land before was a real wiener and no wonder the cattle died he wasn't allowing rest periods. I like watching the neighboring farms do similar practices. Then they stare at me when we are grazing in December and January and haven't offered the 1st bale of hay. lol This year is much different though because of the larger herd, I am now offering a bale every few days.
Yeah that guy was a character. He finally was found dead under his tractor a couple years ago.
I'm starting to see more people catch on to these improved techniques around here but there are still a lot of people that just let their cattle continuously free graze their entire farm here as well. Most keep their pasture grazed into the ground year around. It's almost amazing they can manage to keep the grass that beat down where we get 40+ inches of rain a year.
I'm still working on my full grazing plan for all the farms here. I should end up with about a thousand acres of graze by the time I account for the 600+ crop acres in grazable cover crop. I'm having a real hard time getting covers established enough to graze behind beans and then I worry about having enough fiber in the lush green cover crops for the cattle. I think I'm going to go to alternating strips of corn with beans in the same field and lay out my paddocks across the strips. Thought being that the corn strips come out early and I can broadcast the covers in early september after corn harvest and at the same time broadcast across the bean strips at leaf drop. This should give me the time boost I need in the beans without having to drive through the beans and lose yield to seed the covers. Also will provide the fiber needed with the dry fibrous corn residue.
Then just rotate the strips from year to year. Cattle will come off the crop fields in March and stockers sold and my herd cows will go back to grass which is generally starting green up here. Calf in May/June and reset the whole shebang. Still working on designing summer annual covers to graze to build soil faster on a few acres every year. I think if I work that right, it'll even out my grazing windows and rotations so they have prime graze all year. Hopefully I can manage without a single bale of hay...ever.
What the hell is wrong with us that this stuff is exciting? I think we've got some issues, lol. (or it may be the money, chaching)
Brent what part of the country are you in?
I'm in southwest MO/southeast KS
+Brent Great question..."What the hell is wrong with us"? lol
I don't know anything about grazing crop land or I would throw in a few ideas of my own. From what I gather though, your plans sounds pretty good. All we can do is try and make changes as needed, right? I like that your planning to avoid using hay and I hope that works out for you. This will be our biggest year for hay usage since I've been managing our farm. Having the bigger herd still and with grass growth slowing down, it has caught up to us. I did find out yesterday that 17 will be leaving this Friday to go to owner farm for winter. He bales his own hay and he purchases the hay I feed here, so it's cheaper to take half back home. I have 130 bale on hold now and deliveries started last week. Fun, fun!
At 40+ inches a year in rain we are pretty comparable. I track our rain fall here and last year we had 47". I think 2013 was one of the highest I've seen at 54". It amazes me how much difference there is between my reading and the local weather. So much fake news these days. lol Have a great day!
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Hi Jason, I've been watching your bee videos for a long time and did not know you also had cows. I also have cattle in addition to bees. I live in central Florida so it's a very different environment, especially weatherwise.
I would love to see more about how you create paddocks, which I assume are smaller sections of a pasture. Electric fences it appears. What kind, how do you move them. When you move the cattle so often, where do they get water? You mentioned finishers. Do you buy young calves and grow them out? How small and to how large? Sorry for so many questions,but it's fascinating to me. Here most ranchers are cow/calf producers. We have cows who raise their calves, which we then sell at the cattle auction usually when they reach 300 - 500 pounds. Bottle calves are also interesting. Would welcome more information on that subject too. Love all your videos. Thanks for sharing!!
Oh yeah, raising cattle is a blast! I love spending time in the pasture with them as they graze. I like watching my bees pollinate around the cattle.
The paddocks are made up of poly wire and temporary step-in post. As far as water we have 28 water spigot scattered around 176 acres, so I designed a water sled I drag to each paddocks as the herd is moved. The water tanks hooks to one of the spigots and has an automatic shut-off float. (very handy)
Most of my herd is owned by another guy, I am paid to manage them. I just started building my own herd in the last couple years, I have 9 head now, 3 of which are due to calve. The other guy was buying young cattle for me to finish but that is changing this year. We are going cow/calf this year. Pretty excited to have calf's on the way.
Outstanding insight I've seen some improvement on my 10 acres this year. I'm looking forward to trying this next year with narrow paddocks, can't wait.
Glad you enjoyed the video. Best of luck!
@@omarx4139 absolutely, just have to give smaller space or paddock on daily basis.
Andrew Jacoby II how many cows you have on it
@@getitdoneframers3746 so far only 5 but on 2 to 3 acre area. Going to add more cattle and sheep moving forward.
Andrew Jacoby II awesome !! thank you for replying 👍
Excellent viedo one of the best i have viewed
Excellent info! Thanks for posting these videos!
Great info.
Hello! Love your video and humor! Would love to talk sometime about your experiences.
Just bought a really long but narrow 10 acre tract. This information is going to be very useful. Thank you so much
Glad the video was helpful. Good luck with the new land!
This is right. The cattle should utilize the forages
Loved the video & evidence :) great job.
Interesting...how does a cow start to ball (act) when you're around versus when you're not having to eat down the less tasty weeds? What do the cows do when they ball. I'm new to this and do open range roaming cattle...happy cattle. How do they act when you're there?
Great ideas. My only concern for this has been not having a hot enough fix charger. What charger are you using to keep them in that tight of lanes?
Here is a link to the charger we have megadepot.com/product/power-wizard-pw9000-110v-plug-in-electric-fence-charger-9-joule-output .
We are also about 1/4 mile from charger.
Very helpful. Thank you!
You have to calculate how many cattle you have and how much they graze on day-for-day to move them for your sides of land and what they're going to eat what they can come back to one is nice fresh and green
Awesome video Jason!! Lots of info!!
Thanks man! I try to pack them full of goodies. lol
I love to go back and watch your older videos I’ve already seen so I can refresh my brain. It’s all such good info.
Excellent Info
Thanks!
Allan Savory has been saying this for years. He also advises everyone to double their Herd size. You might even want to try 15 foot wide with 100 head.
Got a question if you take seed that you want to implement into the paddock would you put it in right before you move into that paddock
Yes, right before the cattle more in. I've done that a couple of times with winter rye seed and it worked fairly well.
Do you water your pastures or they are rain fed ? I intend to start this type of farming it’s exciting and would want to know if the cow’s dung and urine are driving the growth of the pastures or I need to put the infrastructure for watering.
No. I do not water any of our pasture. I rely on the rain for that. We average 55" of rain a year.
Thanks a lot .ive been thinking about about this
Great video and information.
Great Vídeo! Thanks for share!
thank you. your videos are very helpful.
I do my best to make them helpful. Thanks for watching!
great video
Thanks!
I am getting an 10 year idle pasture ready for next year. It is packed with goldenrods. I am worried the cattle may become sick from earing so much of it. Have u seen any negative effects from them eating it in large quantity? I have read online that it is toxic to them. Thanks. Love ur vids. Brett
To be honest, our cows have more than just goldenrod mixed in so I have never seen issues from it. I would mow it this year if I were you and keep it from going to seed. I would also being trying to get some carbon on it. Maybe buy some junk bales of hay and unroll them. The hay will break down and feed the soil. If you don't have a way to mow it drag something over it several times to knock it down.
Yea i have mowed it twice. Going to drag a york rake through and see how it responds. Thanks for the advice!!!
Very informative
@Grazing Acres Farm that is a good thing to show, but am just curious which I understand what you mean, but inerways would you be able to do the same thing in the sixty feet pen lots. As you did to the ten feet lots, but can you just keep the cows in the same sixty feet pen a little bit longer, so they'll have more time to eat and stomp down grass and weeds and other stuff.?? But inerways good video of that.
Mob grazing can be done in many different ways you just have to try it and make adjustments as needed. Give it a try!
Grazing Acres Farm yeah I know that..lol but I wasn't sure if they would still do as much work if they stayed in the big pen for a little bit longer. But we would like to try to do something of rotational grazing? But we think we don't have the proper setup not enough pasture for one and two to many trees, and last but not lest three, people around here won't let us went or put property especially close by to are farm. But inerways again good video and thanks for replying back to me sir.
This was a very accessible introduction to mob grazing, thank you.
How do you get water to the herd? I'm guessing they have access to a water in each paddock?
Thanks! I'm glad you enjoyed it.
Our farm has 28 water spigots scattered around 176 acres, they are all supplied by 1 water well. It come down to at least 2 spigots per pasture. I made a portable water sled I move with the herd. I don't have a video on my current setup but here is the water sled I used to use ua-cam.com/video/alKFFsz-rWQ/v-deo.html
thank you for sharing
Love learning from your videos!! Curious what electric fence charger are you using and how many feet of polyrope are you using? I am hoping to get set up this coming summer.
So glad you enjoying the videos! Here is another video where I discuss our fence charger along with all the other equipment I use to graze. ua-cam.com/video/PP0grQwa4mQ/v-deo.html
As for the feet of poly wire I use, I would say that at one given time I have roughly 1 mile setup at a time. But that can go up if you want to setup a few days ahead of the head. Save your money and buy poly braid not wire. powerflexfence.com/collections/powerflex-polybraid-1320/products/powerflex-polybraid-stainless-1320 It will last for years as it's way stronger. It about it the poly wire is one of the most important tools you have when rotational grazing. It keeps the livestock where you want them as long as it's hot. Once they realize it's not carrying much juice or none at all, they lose respect for it. Trust me, I learned the hard way but our pasture were very rough when we started grazing this farm. When you reel the poly wire in daily it eventually snags and that rips the connection making the current flow spotty. I tried several poly wire brands with the same results. Then I discovered the poly braid I suggested, I love it. I have 4 rolls now, trying to slowly wean out my reels of cheap poly wire.
@@GrazingAcresFarm Thank you very much for the info. This is a huge help!!
hey i love your videos. i however happen o just be starting out where i have 5 acres of grazing land. it is mostly napier grass and king grass and cow peas and grass is as tall as 10 feet, how many head of cattle could i max out with?
Thanks! I would start small and add more as you see your pasture it keeping up. I don't want to say you can have X amount and be completely wrong. There is a lot at play in this question. Like what's your yearly rainfall? When do you experience drought? Or do you?
How many head do you have per acre and what size cattle
Do you think that the shape of the paddock, as opposed to size, makes a difference? I’ve got 10-13 Belted Galloways on 15 acres in Maine - which is to say on 2 very irregular shaped pastures. Only 2 water sources so sled won’t work. Started using smaller paddocks and moving them more last summer and it helped, but my area per animal was much bigger than what you’re doing here.
On average how long are you waiting to put the cattle back on after grazing? Thanks
looks like you aare doing a really good job, but what nutritional value dose clover have?
Thanks! You would have to research that on Google to get the best answer.
THAT'İS İT. THAT WAS I AM SEARCHİNG ABOUT ! TANKS A LOT .
I am researching about rotational grazing. We are new to farming and have 1 cow and 6 mini goats and a 5ish acre field. I will be adding cows later but trying to come up with a rotational plan for now to improve the grasses, soil health etc. We just have native grass now. Do you have a recommendation for a rotational configuration to start with. I can adapt it later as we see what works but just not sure where to start! Have a blessed day!
Good job.
from what I've learned from multi grazing animal that you moved Paddock The Paddock like cows pigs and chickens to scratch it all down meet the bugs at the pool you use smaller paddocks so they're not as picky and it keep the weeds down
What you have learned....Id like to know where you learned it from ? Cows....chickens..pigs....all pee and poop. Does a person expect the animal to come back the second time around and eat around their poop ? After ever second trip over the pasture they should be clipped and baled for hay ! Yes the manure is still there.....but the new green growth is much higher quality then the trees ( grass ) that was there !
Are you seeding these pastures or is that just the natural grasses in your area? Btw those red steer make me want to cook some prime rib!
We don't buy seed but we do bale graze which does reseed those areas. It's been awhile since I have seen this video but I think I remember the steers yo speak of, they were very nice looking when they left to be processed.
Jason, I get this is an old video, and you switched herds from Finishers to Cow/Calf sometine after this, but Im wondering: were your cows more likely to eat goldenrod after this mob event, or did they continue to avoid it if possible?
Wow, sounds like you've followed me for a long time. I appreciate that! I was just talking this week with the lady we lease from and this year is our 11th year running cattle on her land, 7th year as a cow/calf. Crazy how time flies!
They avoid eating the goldenrod as much as possible unless forced to eat it sadly. I now mow spots that get thick with GR and that's thinning it out too. Best of luck!
@Grazing Acres Farm - Ever consider following your cattle with goats? They love to eat weeds like golden rod and ironweed that cows don't like to eat. Though 1 strand fencing isn't gonna cut it for goats. ;)
At one time, I had a deal worked out with the neighboring Amish to bring in their goats after I grazed with cattle. That turned into a huge mess and more work for me. They were supposed to tent the goats (watering in such) and never did. Of course, I couldn't let them go without, so I would do the needed work. They did bring them a portable shelter but that was about it. After about 2 months, I asked them to pull out to save my own time.. To be honest though, the goats were always grazing the pasture when I was there. There may have been a couple times I seen them around wild roses bushes but not many.
I am well aware 1 strand will not hold goats. They say, if you can blow smoke through a fence, a goat can escape. lol
@@GrazingAcresFarm yeah here in southwest Washington I'm raising sheep and goats myself so I'll have to keep y'all informed how it goes.
@@GrazingAcresFarm Use sheep, here they make more money than cattle, they can be trained to use electric fence, they will stay within it if there is feed, they will break out if there is nothing left, but I would be breeding them up myself, so that would be a long term thing if you wanted them to graze a strip like that quickly right behind the cows, if you get sheep that have just been on the land with not much contact, they may just go do as they like....and the breeds are different too, you would prob find it too much work, lot harder just doing the temp fence
Interesting. How many pounds of beef per acre?
Interesting to see your success with the long and skinny paddocks. I know in Joel Salatin's book he advocates square paddocks. What kind of advantages do you see with the narrow paddocks versus having a more square paddock with the same area? Is it the increased trampling?
I don't think the corners get grazed very well in square paddocks. In the long narrow padocks the cattle hit every single inch. Also trampling is increased.
Running my cows through my stockpiled hay field now, 10 head, 16ft wide 320ft long, working great but being very wet here in southern Ohio right now I sometimes have to move them twice a day which is no big deal.Gives me more cow time. Enjoy the video!!! @@GrazingAcresFarm
Great video. Great looking cattle too. So fat!👍
Thanks George. The cattle gained well this year using this method of grazing. I can't wait to see how the cattle do next year with improved pastures.
neat. does long and skinny paddocks work better than a more squared off paddock with the same square footage?
Yes, There is a huge difference, with a square they do not graze the corners very well.
Grazing Acres Farm ok, thanks good to know
I would like to incorporate this practice on my farm. I’ve got about 100 pairs and run them on 1000 acres that is only separated into 4 different paddocks. Now my biggest concern is water. How the heck am I supposed to keep them watered when here’s just one dugout on each paddock. And these paddocks aren’t nice open square pastures, lots of openings and bush so it would be very difficult to have alley ways to the dugouts from each paddock
@Amaranthian450 Great question. I don't have this issue because we have water spigots in each pasture, several in some pastures. But what so people do it run black water pipe on top the ground from the water hole to the cattle. The pipe is hooked to a submersible pump. I have also seen people drop one end of pipe in water and suck on the other end until they had a flow. Of course this only works if the cattle are grazing ground lower than the water hole. You could also get a couple of the portable water totes that hold a few hundred gallons of water and just fill and move as needed. Jobe makes some great water floats that would work with this setup too. Best of luck.
So are all your spigots on a main pressure system?
Yes. Years ago there was a program that paid to install watering systems on farm land and the land owner used it. They had 27 spigots installed to a deep well with pressure tankS across 176 acres.
Very helpful by the way what state are you in??
I am in central Ohio.
Can the same principle by applied to sheep? Have 7 head and 10 acres
I have never worked with sheep but can't see why it wouldn't work as long as they are trained to electric fence.
Nice job
Well done!!
Thanks Todd
what do you think about them solar chargers? I have one its doing well with a small plot, my lowlines doing well.. Id like to get more but unsure..
To be honest...I have never used a solar fence charger but if it's working for you go for it. What brand are you using? Our charge is a PowerWizard and it's 9 joules if I remember correctly.
You have lowlines huh? I have raised a few of them and they were a blast to raise. They were all very docile and loved attention from me, like scratching their heads. They all gained weight very well too. I would love to have more of them one day.
Wonderful ✅
Genius !
What do you do when the soil is very wet and muddy this paddock are bare ground. It currently 01/07/19
We have a small sacrifice pasture for muddy times or we move to high ground. Our farm is very hilly though.
@@GrazingAcresFarm I sent an email to you at honey comb. A little more detail of my pasture. Thanks Ralph
@@GrazingAcresFarm I sent an email to you at honey comb. A little more detail of my pasture. Thanks Ralph
please tell me if you grow your own grass if la how do you do it? I just do not understand English. I use translator
this is gna sound sad but I have an acre of land with 2 horses, I know so small I do drag manure often, can I do this technique on such a very small scale??? where I live there is no horse to land restrictions so I was able to have 2 on less then 2 acres I dragged yesterday and it snowed just feeding hay now should I fence off parts to rest? its so small but a huge flat square acre. thanks
You sure can! This video was shot on our leased farm, back at my house I have a jersey steer on 1.5 acres and I section it off. Keep in mind though this is more a spring/summer things not winter. In the winter they have access to full pastures. Good luck!
@@GrazingAcresFarm thanks for the tips also do you think I should keep dragging manure or pick up and throw away I've done both and seen both and its way easier to spread then constantly try to pick up, 20 piles in a 24 hour period of time from 2 horses, they currently eat a bale of hay a day(24 hour) and of course gras is dormant and eaten , they have been here a month so far I just don't wanna kill the lawn its 90x 168 feet aproximately small run in in back and water and electric up by gate so not sure how to divide up in the spring so far hay is kept along front gate and also some in run in ( in a port grazor look up on you tube) this keeps my hay some what off ground but still mud
Long narrow lanes are especially great for horses as it imitates what they do naturally. You can have things of interest along the way, such as salt licks or a netting of hay. You will find it will make better use of the land available, hence longer rest periods for regrowth.
@@metalkingtohorses How is it going with the horses? I am just getting into farming, but my kids have sheep. They move them to fresh ground(mostly weeds) every few days. They need to move them more, but moving water is time consuming.
Off the top of my head, I would divide up the pasture in 8 parts to begin with. keep the horses on the same pasture to allow the others to recover. Move the horses every 4-5 days. I would also get chickens to spread out the manure. like my kids situation, water is a pain. Use hoses or water line on top of the ground until you figure it out.
Goats Will eat all your weed will not eat grass , it works try it . Goat meat make good prices . Great video Thanks
Yea this video was 4 years ago but how have things been going since?? Are you still doing this mob grazing?
Greàt job.
How to you get water to your cows?
We lease this land and the owners used a program to install water spigots in all of the pastures. Some pastures have up to 5 spigots. In total the farm has 28 spigots.
@@GrazingAcresFarm Neat. Do you know what kind of pipe and what diameter pipe they used?
The pipe is just standard black water pipe as far as I can tell. Looks like 1 1/2". My 2nd year running the farm I made the mistake of running a spigot over and had to dig it up and replace it. Wouldn't ya know it was the furthest from the pump and took and hour to just drain the line. lol
What is your total acres for 50 head
The farm we lease is 177 acres and roughly 130 of that is grazable.
Do you feed hay in the winter? If so about how much for those 50 head?
With long, narrow strips, how do they get water?
We have 28 water spigot scattered around the farm so watering in each paddocks is easy. You will need to setup a portable watering station.
awesome!
Great hands down proof of regenerative agriculture. Fat cattle salad bar beef. Our pasture 30 acres never looked that good. No mob to mow and fertilize. Do you add bio char to the mineral supplement? Great fertilizer and antacid. Doesn't hurt weight either.
Thanks for the kind words. I was really impressed myself and knew I needed to share this video. I am convinced anyone can do this and any number of livestock, you just have to confine them to make them competitive eaters. The only think I offer as far as mineral is Thorvin kelp and Redmonds #15 mineral salt. I honestly believe the kelp has helped us avoid pinkeye problems. Who makes this Bio Char and what is it?
Curious about biochar too
How big would u make a paddock with 12 head? Moving once a day
I wish I could tell you but like I said in the video, you have to experiment then makes changes as needed.
Awsome!
I always believe in mix grazing or a sheep/goat herd. (which manicures the feed ratios. IE you let the goats/sheep heard eat those weed speices and leave behind the stuff that the cattle like. as time goes on the sheep/goat herd will reduce the population, once they reduce you cut back on the sheep/goat herd and mix it with the cattle herd)
What I like there is no stres on the animals.
The question that these videos never answer, is what weight gain do you get when you force them to graze out the weeds? Really good test though.
I wish I knew but I do not have a livestock scale. Sorry!
How do you handle the grounding issues? Do u need a rod every 20 feet?
I don't have grounding issues using the poly braid but I use quality stuff. I find the cheaper poly wires break but in most cases they are already used to it being hot. Our high tensile fence is grounded fairly well also.
cool
Now if you want to cut down on the fly is around the couch
Sorry that doesn’t make any sense. Now if you want to cut down on the flies around your cows, follow them with chicken tractors. Ola Joel Salatin.