I have been waiting for someone to compare M8 to OP-1 while I wait for my M8 to arrive. Having both the Polyend Tracker and TE OP-1, it seemed like it was as much, if not more, relevant to compare M8 to the OP-1 than the obvious tracker vs tracker standoff. Thanks so much for making this vid 🤘🔥🤘🔥🤘🔥
@@MidlifeSynthesist the closest I can get to that at the moment is Deflemask on my iPhone. I’ve been discovering Chiptune music, getting super inspired and produced a bunch of chiptune tracks myself. A device like the M8 would be perfect. The form factor is a big appeal, like a juiced up pocket operator in a case. Potentiometers? Great channel of yours too! Power Up!
Really enjoyed hearing your perspective on this bit of kit. It may not be for everyone, but for those who it is, I can foresee mega, super, ultra creative boosts. 🙂
Thank you for watching! I also have the polyend tracker and I feel that for me the workflow is faster on it than on the M8. That being said, the M8 has internal synths and fits in my pocket, so I think you definitely should have both🤣 #gas Have a great day!
The Dirtywave looks and sounds really good and I love tracker interfaces ... but I'm not sure if I would enjoy inputting notes on so few buttons. One of the main advantages of trackers for me is the fast workflow on the computer keyboard, not sure if I'd really enjoy scrolling through notes to input them. Oh well, it's probably going to be out of stock five minutes after a batch gets ready to ship for the next couple of years, so I'll have plenty of time to think about it.
Same here! I really clicked with the Polyend Tracker cause the keyboard layout was so familiar, making my workflow insanely fast👍🏼 this is very fun and useful for the road or everyday commute, but given time and space to work on my music I’m grabbing a big boy workstation like the MPC lol. Thanks for watching!
Yeah i honestly don't see the point in owning this. Don't get me wrong, it's really cool, but so many people already take their laptops with them everywhere..... Just buy renoise. I get that working with a laptop vs a portable piece of hardware is not the same but in the case of trackers, a computer keyboard is far far better than this.
For me the best feature on the OP-1 is honestly just the fact that it has a keyboard on it. I like making sequences and chopping samples but I personally have to have some sort of keyboard on a device like that
@@rorz999 maybe, but the you have a little midi keyboard extra to carry and it’s kinda dangling around. Does the M8 have USB powered busses? You may need to power up your midi keyboard on top of that. What I love about the OP-1 is that I can quickly bring it out and pack it back up on a plane or a train. Although I am considering selling my OP-1 for an SP404 MII and I’ve considered the M8 too
The workflow is different, and people comparing these devices casually probably ought to emphasize that a bit more than they do, because I've read that some people immediately sell their Polyend because it doesn't click.
I can also make music with Cubasis3 on my phone wherever and whenever, and it's way more powerful. The best mobile music creation device is the one that you always carry with you.
Nice video. I have no chip on either OP-1 or M8 in this debate. Maybe I like the M8 better because it’s close to a gameboy which I make music with? In that way, I was a bit taken aback by you believing the « one man made it » legend of the M8. Being an LSDJ user (on gameboy) like many chiptune artists far more interesting then me, the workflow of the M8 is really familiar. Of course, a gameboy is only 4 synths channel so the M8 specs are way way less lofi. The M8 creator is a big name in chiptune and toured the world with LSDJ music. Of course, he licensed the code to create the M8. Even if they are both hardware trackers the M8 and the Polyend Tracker come from different backgrounds. The PT interface and build come from their take on making them so it’s all new. The design and the interface of the M8 come from years of use of LSDJ on gameboy. The mecanical memory you talk about, it is the reality of making music for many chiptune artists and come from developping and adjusting a sequencer program to the limitation of the limited buttons of the gameboy. It’s the « standing on the shoulder of giants » way of creating. I guess which one is better is a matter of taste but one man’s work is far fetch….
Yes, "standing on the shoulders of giants" is true, and definitely the years of LSDJ refinement paved the way for M8. But consider, LSDJ is software running on Nintendo hardware - so, equally, LSDJ team were standing on the shoulders of giants. Considering Nintendo did not invent the microprocessor, the transistor, or electricity, batteries etc, I guess they were standing on the shoulders of giants... And so on... All products stand on the shoulders of giants that came before. Why single out the M8??!! So, yes, your point is true - but nobody reinvents the wheel these days, why would they. Do not underestimate the time and work that goes into designing and building a commercial product, especially where hardware is concerned. I know so many dudes who have ideas for products or software (I myself am a software engineer, albeit a lazy one lol) - but they never realise these dreams. So I guess when people talk of "one man built the M8", it is actually pretty accepted as having been built with existing tech - honestly, nobody builds anything from scratch - it would be really stupid to do so, and M8 would take 20+ years to build instead, and would be absolutely riddled with bugs! Trash80 decided to dedicate years of his life, and apply his years of experience with LSDJ to build his ultimate version of the platform. Seriously, that's legendary. So, considering that without Trash80, the M8 would NOT exist, and accepting that "standing on the shoulders of giants" is a given these days, saying the M8 exists because of one man is not wrong - and it's a real achievement. So, although I sort of agree with your statement, I don't like that it kind of over simplifies the mountain of work that went into making this particular dream into a reality. Trash80 is considered a legend, and rightfully so! Anyway, please don't take any offence, this is just my 2 cents!
@@mrclaytron I didn’t know if responding to your points would be just making an argument. You are right nearly anything is influenced or based on other things. I would add « at different degrees ». Some like the M8 very much so. Some like the OP-1, not so much. Both are great machines nevertheless. You assume by saying the M8 is not one man’s creation that I mean it was not work. So I’m glad to tell you it’s definitely not what I meant. It’s quite an achievement indeed. By the way, I single out the M8 and the OP-1 here because they are the subjects of this video. And I single out the Polyend Tracker in the other comment because it was named as another similar tracker in the video. I guess I’m triggered by the too good to be true one man behind a machine story that marketing want to sell us. Knowing this about the M8, I ask myself if it’s the same about the deluge? Maybe some key concept of it seems original to me because I’m not part of the scene it’s coming from? I’m a big Koala Sampler user now. The story is one man made a way better sampler app then AKAI or Native Instruments. Some prefer using Koala Sampler over using the SP404. (Similar resampling workflow) These people think that the new mkII is a let down by Roland. The story is suspicious but Koala is still the better app and the creator should be proud of it. The new update is quite something.
The first time I saw an OP-1, I thought it was the cheap, full-featured, tiny synth workstation that I’ve been expecting to flood the market for the past two decades. I don’t understand why there aren’t dozens of Chinese manufacturers filling this billion dollar hole in the market. The first one to grab mainstream appeal will sell like fidget-spinners.
The day my M8 arrived, I disappeared for 4 hours and resurfaced with the types of sounds I've been chasing for the last couple of years. It's an absolute joy to use and a total world creator.
@@sonicmistress you might have a different definition of expensive... I don't consider 5 grand expensive for a motorcycle but a beginner with less income would. So I guess... Get out more?
At this point it's not even about money, it's about TE being an absurd company that many people claim to be designer brand and not music equipment brand.
M8 user here. I just want to echo the idea that it feels a bit like a video game or a puzzle to write music on this. I couldn’t agree more and I think that’s a good thing. The dream of something like the OP-1 is that you can use it on a long trip, but whenever i’ve tried to do that I’ve found myself uninspired to create musical ideas. With the M8, I don’t feel so daunted because I just can start plugging notes in until I have something that I like. The song mode makes it so easy to build up chains into full songs that before I know it, I have a fully fleshed our idea and I’ve arrived at my destination. I wouldn’t sweat the workflow too much. I got used it pretty quickly without much tracker experience in the past. The software was modeled after LSDJ so it was always intended to be able to be picked up easily by a wide audience. Before I made the plunge, I got a Teensy and made a M8 headless unit to see if I would gel with the workflow, and that helped a lot.
When I first saw M8, my first thought was "Is that a Gameboy Clone made by an Industrial Designer?" But it sounded awesome, so I looked up the website. It said the M8 was inspired by a program called LSDJ. Looked that up and found it's a tracker software made for the original Game Boy. Suddenly, the M8's design and layout made perfect sense as it somewhat replicates the Game Boy layout. Went ahead and got the parts for a headless M8 and have been running it on my laptop with a game controller and having a blast while I wait for the next round of pre-orders to start delivering. :)
@@UbiDoobyBanooby Heh... It gets even better when you find out that the LSDJ software is inspired by even older software that ran on the Commodore Amiga. :D
im glad someone brought up lsdj cuz the thumbnail of the layout made me click into this video... ive been looking into poclet operators... might just pop out my lsdj and gameboy pocket
@@UbiDoobyBanooby The Headless M8 is a Teensy 4.1 circuit board ($30) that you flashed the M8 software onto along with a compatible micro SD card and you run it using your PC as a display. You can also use a game controller to represent the buttons of the M8. This gives you most of the functionality of the M8 for a low cost of entry. It's great on its own or as way to practice while you wait for the M8s to start being delivered again.
LOL. you can buy a real Synth for what this plastic toy costs, and the OP saying the OP1 is the Gold Standard....What an idiot....hahaha, you can get a $5 App that can do more.....Mugs selling their affiliate links and will say anything....$500 for this piece of crap....Gear snobbery for fools....
As someone who has been using the M8 for almost two years now I find it difficult to not come across as completely biased when I sing it praises, so it makes me happy to hear some objective reviews of the device talking about both its perceived strengths and potential weaknesses. This might be my favorite introductory to it so far, I love your honesty. Cheers!!
I love the M8 - feels like I am hacking the matrix and is very intuitive to use. I am struggling with sound design though - the FM and MI based synth are deep!
"At first glance, m8 is ticking all the boxes"...Nice! Appropriate. To me it never seemed like this could replace the op1 (which I don't have. Too spendy for me). The format of op1 is traditional so anyone who's played a toy piano as a child would feel familiar with it. Granted, the m8 has a Gameboy feel, so perhaps some (all my friends are synths) will have a similar familiarity experience, but not everyone has had a Gameboy. I was more curious about the experience and sound relative to the polyend tracker. But I completely see your point about pocketability and muscle memory. That's a huge plus for me and I don't have a machine that "ticks" those boxes. Would you be willing to do a comparison with the polyend for workflow and sound? That would be interesting.
Well I don’t agree that the M8 is a OP-1 killer because TE killed the OP-1 themselves by pricing it out of the market. But I understand his point, with the OP-1 out of reach of most people, we might see an influx of new users for the M8 because there’s not a lot of portable devices on which you can compose a multi track song. I think the M8 will become pretty popular for people who like composing music on the go.
Coming from a software background, my new Polyend tracker does actually feel a bit like programming music, which makes it less intimidating for me to use it and to get into the scene. So I guess, as usual, the experience varies per person.
I'm not a musician/musical artist and I ordered an M8 on the first preorder. I'm a tech enthusiast with interest in music, and the M8 has given me not only a wonderfully satisfying tactile experience in using the device, but has taught me a lot about making music and making it accessible to me in an easy to use and HIGHLY portable package. I've also own an OP-1 for about 6 years now for this reason, and I'd easily say both the OP-1 and M8 are the coolest things I probably own that I *make time* to sit down and use.
It’s so cool that you cover a wide range of music making possibilities. I admire your resilience and patience. Although not a thing I’d consider making music with, I find this style fascinating. I remember a Japanese woman wrote a novel on her train commute using an old flip phone. This lil guy would be great for a commuter to write their opus. Then you mention midi connectivity and it’s like wow this thing is really meant for a lot of different applications. I also see that red means recording made an album using this thing and it’s a trip. Wild!
Hey brother! Happy to see you here and glad you liked the video! The M8 is indeed special, even though it is a bit “out there” vs more mainstrem devices. It’s not for everyone but I found it to be a blast! Lots of love my friend, see you soon!
Wish I could answer but never needed any so far. From what I gather, the community Discord seems to be pretty on top of things (the owner/creator of dirtywave is there as well). Hope that helps! Thanks for watching!
Hi Corey! Nice to see you here again bro 🤟🏻 definitely check it out! Though I would go for the full unit as it is really a very cohesive and appealing design and a unique experience to use👍🏼 let me know how it goes, cheers!
@MidlifeSynthesist Excellent breakdown, and sold me on the M8, which I've been loving, and is a real game changer for my workflow. Thanks! As someone who uses the Keystep 37 extensively, and whose focus has been a small modular setup (you also sold me on another game changer for me...the Disting EX), I was wondering if you could briefly describe how your using the keystep-> M8-> O-Coast setup in this vid?
Hi Michael! Thank you for the kind words! Since I made this video a while back I couldn’t exactly say😅 If I had to guess, I’m probably sequencing 0-coast on channel 9 and the tracks on m8 1-8, controlling all with the keystep. Sorry I can’t be more helpful😂 Thanks for watching!
@@MidlifeSynthesist Ah, got it, and makes sense. So there's probably a midi hub off screen, which was throwing me. Looking forward to trying the M8 sequencing the Disting EX via the midi breakout, and possibly routing back through the M8 effects and filter. Thanks again!
Been trying to get into more hardware toys as I mainly produce music solely with Ableton using my midi keyboard and another synth and I'm wondering how much of a learning curve a tracker would be? This really caught my eye, but it definitely looks overwhelming considering I haven't had any exposure. Curious what ya'll think. I'd appreciate any insight. Thanks!
Honestly I found the learning curve not very steep at all. I learned the whole thing in less than a day, and I'm an idiot. It's not nearly as complex as it looks
Great video! Really have been interested in the Polyend Tracker since the beginning. As a Renoise user I’d feel right at home! But the M8 is very intriguing as my desk is space limited and most my gear purchases have to be more portable. Thank you and happy jamming!
I feel the need to point out this thing is heavily based on the LSDJ tracker for Gameboy. The smooth muscle memory based workflow you praised so much comes directly from it, and if you look at the button layout, you'll realize it's essentially a gameboy, with for directional buttons on the left, A and B buttons on the right, and Start and Select below. It was a great review, and it's amusing to watch someone who's not coming from chiptune enjoy this thing so much, but it felt wrong to get all the praise directed at the guy who made the M8 instead of the creator of LSDJ, since the M8 is basically a guy going "man, LSDJ's workflow and interface are fantastic, I wish it wasn't limited to the gameboy's four monophonic channels" and then working from there.
...prototype units of the m8 had select and start printed on instead of shift and play. pics of them are still pretty easy to find but u know that probably ;) also yes, as someone who started using lsdj over a decade ago (omg...I'm getting old), it's a gameboy on steriods with wasd/arrow keys layout. lots of people forget its ergonomics is also based upon using it with the usb connected to a pc and streaming its screen onto a monitor. those rubber feet on the buttom are there for a reason^^ now, it becomes a controller with touchscreen, the software is now like using a tracker daw while using the arrow keys is exactly the same like using a pc with index, middle and ringfinger, not just with ur thumbs like when u hold it in ur hands instead. its really kinda cool cause thats a consequence of its desig, topshelf is just its pcb but the backside. btw, I'm also seeing live fun with it, screen sharing onto a big screen with a projector while with the other hand is on a midi controller to change parameter like filter cutoff/resonance
As always, entertaining and informative review! Fun is definitely a factor for me. I also have to say musicians should spend a few dollars and get Koala sampler on their smart phones. It is a fun experience that you can take anywhere and it goes deeper than you might think.
I just don't get these devices. I grew up with hardware like this, and one of my bandmates came up with the phrase "like trying to decorate the front hall through the letterbox", which perfectly described the clicky-clunky experience of trying to get anything done. Back then it was the only choice we had, since Synclaviers and Fairlights were out of the question. Things got easier when we started using computers for sequencing, and eventually the limitations evaporated when soft synths arrived. Why anyone would subject themselves to this torture is beyond me.
Great review - I've had my M8 for a few weeks now, and absolutely love it. Because of work, I haven't got as much time to spend with it as I'd like, but it's so easy to just pick up and start messing with, it's brilliant. Firstly, I love both M8 and OP-1. They are both very different devices, but I personally feel more productive on the M8. Something I wish the M8 had, which OP-1 has, is a built in mic, I like being able to just randomly record stuff with my OP-1, and instantly be able to play it. Like the importance of built in speakers, I think a built in mic is super useful on portable devices. That being said, I was able to plug my Android phone in via USB and sample directly from it, no config or anything - which is very nice. Being able to work, and save MULTIPLE tracks, and load them instantly is another area where the M8 beats the OP-1. I absolutely hate that the OP-1 only has one lousy 6 minute tape available (and the record device thing I suppose). For me, this means I only ever use the OP-1 for writing exported loops. The M8 is MUCH more suited for full song composition. I think the instruments on the M8 are much more predictable, and sound can really be created with purpose. Because of the M8s implementation of instrument tables, I don't think the OP-1 can compete with the M8 for complex synthesis. Note on instrument tables: Think of a dedicated sequence, per instrument (well, "per instrument" by default, but tables can be shared across instruments, one table can even trigger another table... Like tables within tables... Yeah, Table Inception is a thing!!). This Table sequence triggers every time an instrument note is played - and it can affect lots of parameters, for example: - sample start, length and loop position (I can see M8 edging towards granular synthesis in future - it already has the basics) - you can even fudge propper time-stretching by modulating sample values! - LFO and envelope values - Relative note triggering (for the most flexible arps to make even Octatrack users jealous!) - complex pitch slides - random generative sequences - parameters of OTHER tracks can be modified - step speed - the table can modify its own speed and groove... (Oh grooves, another amazing feature, super well thought out and implemented... but I digress!) It's mind blowing... Some of the generative stuff that people are doing with the M8 is amazing! For the most part, the OP-1 synths are kind of like "just keep randomly tweaking things until it sounds good" - which can be a lot of fun for sure, and you can definitely learn the sweet spots, but I sometimes find it frustrating, and end up just trying to find a sample instead. Also, the shared drum kit envelopes are not very good on OP-1. Like, they are infamously bad! The OP-1 is more immediate for note input though. Sometimes you just want to play out a melody inn that little keyboard. The M8 can't do that without plugging in an external keyboard. I already love trackers. I spent many years of my youth writing my crappy tracker music on the Amiga in the 80s and 90s... If someone does not like trackers, then they will not like the M8, no matter what its specs and UI are like. That being said, anyone who loves the Elektron sequencers and workflow would probably love working with the M8. Elektron sequencers are like trackers in disguise!) Watching videos does not do the M8 justice. When you use it, and start to see how smart and intuitive the UI is, it just becomes so much fun to use. Finally, the M8 is not cheap. It does have very good build quality, not quite to OP-1 level, but it's super solid. I don't however think the M8 is over priced - considering it's a boutique instrument, the price is actually very reasonable. The OP-1, on the other hand, is in no way worth its price. I have it because it's unique, and I like it. It was difficult to justify the OP-1 purchase though. The M8 was far easier to justify. As you can see, I'm pretty passionate about this little tracker. Trash80 is an absolute legend, I'm in total awe that one man was able to create something that is, in many ways, better than what larger synth companies with lots of employees can build. I feel inspired by this fact every time I turn it on. EDIT: I had previously said you could probably use the OP-1 connected to the M8 as a MIDI controller. That's not really the case. The M8 does not function as a USB host, so this probably wouldn't work (I cannot test as I don't have a mini USB to micro USB cable). I've removed that statement from my post.
Not sure whether they'd work nicely together, but if they did, M8 plus KMI's new QuNexus seem like an ultra portable solution to add a small keyboard (may need a power bank for the QuNexus, or can the M8 host and power non-power-greedy devices?). See loopop's review of the new QuNexus here: ua-cam.com/video/zemTzTXcka0/v-deo.html Note that the problems of the old version apparently have been (mostly?) addressed.
@@helloneibor7586 I ordered mine on January 18 (Australia). It took a while before it was shipped - it was shipped on February 5. Once it was shipped, I received it within 3 days. I was one of the lucky ones who managed to get an order in for the batch that sold out in less than 8 hours. If you are buying/brought one, good luck, and I hope you are able to get that M8 in your hands soon!
@@stefanherzog I think you are right - OP-1 would likely not work with the M8 over USB, as the M8 does not work as a USB Host - I cannot test as I don't have a mini USB to micro USB cable. I wish the OP-1 had separate MIDI out... I have connected the M8 via USB to the Maschine +, and that works OK... MIDI and audio over USB... although it means you'd need to use the M8 as the in/out for all audio on Maschine +, which works, but might not suit all setups. The QuNexus looks interesting. I don't think the M8 will supply power over USB (though I'm really not sure), and cannot behave as a USB host, so maybe this would not work either. I really wish the M8 had USB C. Trash80 originally wanted to put USB C, but there were issues with that, so he had to go with micro USB. Shame... USB micro to USB micro (OTG cables), or USB Mini cables are harder to come by.
IMO it looks like someone took LSDJ for the gameboy and gave it dedicated midi.. You can do midi on the gameboy but its more of a hack that needs a dongle, this is built in. Even if it is mini jack midi.
I grew up with ModPlug Tracker in the late 90's/early 2000's.. I used it for probably 6 years and loved how quick it was to layout an idea. I since moved on to other DAWs like Reason, then later landing on Ableton for the last 10 years. While I'm content with Ableton, I don't feel like I can layout an idea as quickly as I was able to with a tracker. Polyend announced their Mini Tracker yesterday, and hilariously enough, it got me looking at the M8 again. I was always kind of put off by the low availability before as I've always suffered from the "I want it now." syndrom.. but I'm happy to say I put in a pre-order last night for one and can't wait for it to arrive (hopefully in July). It really feels like the instrument/groovebox/daw that I've been dreaming of my entire music making life. Normally a high learning curve would put me off on an instrument (I went through hell and back with the Octatrack 10 years ago), but I understand Trackers to a degree, so I don't think it will feel as daunting. Great video. Subbed. :D
"At first glance the M8 is ticking all the boxes." OMG - Love this! lololol
😂 a little reference to an amazing youtuber❤️
Happy you liked it brother! See you soon! Cheers!
I cannot stop watching gear videos... And now here's another one I haven't heard of! Nice video.
Welcome to the club my friend!😜❤️
I have been waiting for someone to compare M8 to OP-1 while I wait for my M8 to arrive. Having both the Polyend Tracker and TE OP-1, it seemed like it was as much, if not more, relevant to compare M8 to the OP-1 than the obvious tracker vs tracker standoff. Thanks so much for making this vid 🤘🔥🤘🔥🤘🔥
Looks fantastic! Sounds Amazing!
Absolutely! Still can’t believe something this little sounds so huge! Thanks for watching, cheers!
@@MidlifeSynthesist the closest I can get to that at the moment is Deflemask on my iPhone. I’ve been discovering Chiptune music, getting super inspired and produced a bunch of chiptune tracks myself. A device like the M8 would be perfect. The form factor is a big appeal, like a juiced up pocket operator in a case. Potentiometers?
Great channel of yours too!
Power Up!
Really enjoyed hearing your perspective on this bit of kit. It may not be for everyone, but for those who it is, I can foresee mega, super, ultra creative boosts. 🙂
Nice video. I already have a polyend tracker, but if I see an affordable M8 popping in Europe, I might impulse-buy it ^^
Thank you for watching! I also have the polyend tracker and I feel that for me the workflow is faster on it than on the M8. That being said, the M8 has internal synths and fits in my pocket, so I think you definitely should have both🤣 #gas
Have a great day!
@@MidlifeSynthesist I totally agree with you, the internal synths of the M8 seem to be a huge plus!
thanks for the review! i have one on order, love trackers, BEYOND excited.
I love the keyboard shaped keys look, really makes it look very tactile.
Had to hit like as soon as I heard "...is ticking all the boxes"
WoW!!! Cool... Gotta get my hands on one of these...
Thanks for sharing someone elses synth.. LOL.
Lolz! Thank you so much for watching my friend! See you soon!
This is my first time watching a video from this cannel, but I already appreciate the AufioPils refference
The Dirtywave looks and sounds really good and I love tracker interfaces ... but I'm not sure if I would enjoy inputting notes on so few buttons. One of the main advantages of trackers for me is the fast workflow on the computer keyboard, not sure if I'd really enjoy scrolling through notes to input them.
Oh well, it's probably going to be out of stock five minutes after a batch gets ready to ship for the next couple of years, so I'll have plenty of time to think about it.
Same here! I really clicked with the Polyend Tracker cause the keyboard layout was so familiar, making my workflow insanely fast👍🏼 this is very fun and useful for the road or everyday commute, but given time and space to work on my music I’m grabbing a big boy workstation like the MPC lol. Thanks for watching!
Yeah i honestly don't see the point in owning this. Don't get me wrong, it's really cool, but so many people already take their laptops with them everywhere..... Just buy renoise.
I get that working with a laptop vs a portable piece of hardware is not the same but in the case of trackers, a computer keyboard is far far better than this.
@@adelaideacid7384 I thought the same until I tried it. I don't miss the Qwerty keyboard at all. In fact I prefer the M8's UI now
i wish they could make the screen bigger and perhaps even replace the lcd screen with something more battery efficient such as Sharp Memory LCD
He's still here, I found him.
looks so sick hella informative video thanks heaps !!
Sounds good 👍 I want one if it can do everything the 33- KO does . LOOKS LIKE A GO ,but still liking the tracker ...maybe more .
For me the best feature on the OP-1 is honestly just the fact that it has a keyboard on it. I like making sequences and chopping samples but I personally have to have some sort of keyboard on a device like that
You can plug a MIDI keyboard into the M8. Problem solved
@@rorz999 maybe, but the you have a little midi keyboard extra to carry and it’s kinda dangling around. Does the M8 have USB powered busses? You may need to power up your midi keyboard on top of that. What I love about the OP-1 is that I can quickly bring it out and pack it back up on a plane or a train. Although I am considering selling my OP-1 for an SP404 MII and I’ve considered the M8 too
Very nice video! Looks very cool, would love to try one out!
Good job 👌 it's like a tracker so playing means programing...probably not for everyone. The pocket size is a deal maker for traveling/creating.
solid content man, keep it up!
Interesting, thx 🎼
I love my op1 but God I want that little guy, so awesome lookin, not to mention that was one guy making it, talk about flex
The beat that comes in a @ 6:35 is actually sick asf bro
Just because you asked so nicely, you've got that like clicked
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"the m8 is ticking alllll the boxes" 🤣
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nice audiopilz reference
Thanks jajaj😜
I’ve been on the hunt for a used OP1 obsessively for the past week and now you threw a wrench in my ocd and now I don’t know what to do😂 good job!
The workflow is different, and people comparing these devices casually probably ought to emphasize that a bit more than they do, because I've read that some people immediately sell their Polyend because it doesn't click.
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JK, love your vids.
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this guy is still here.
My first on-screen sequencer was Mario Paint on an SNES. 😂
I can also make music with Cubasis3 on my phone wherever and whenever, and it's way more powerful. The best mobile music creation device is the one that you always carry with you.
Good job mate
great video
I like the Bad Gear reference - I got it if no one else did 😉
Dang it, something else to put on the gas list..
Im a total noob when it comes to physical synths. How would I even make melodies on this thing? Do you connect it to a midi for that? Thnx.
Nice video. I have no chip on either OP-1 or M8 in this debate. Maybe I like the M8 better because it’s close to a gameboy which I make music with? In that way, I was a bit taken aback by you believing the « one man made it » legend of the M8. Being an LSDJ user (on gameboy) like many chiptune artists far more interesting then me, the workflow of the M8 is really familiar. Of course, a gameboy is only 4 synths channel so the M8 specs are way way less lofi. The M8 creator is a big name in chiptune and toured the world with LSDJ music. Of course, he licensed the code to create the M8. Even if they are both hardware trackers the M8 and the Polyend Tracker come from different backgrounds. The PT interface and build come from their take on making them so it’s all new. The design and the interface of the M8 come from years of use of LSDJ on gameboy. The mecanical memory you talk about, it is the reality of making music for many chiptune artists and come from developping and adjusting a sequencer program to the limitation of the limited buttons of the gameboy. It’s the « standing on the shoulder of giants » way of creating. I guess which one is better is a matter of taste but one man’s work is far fetch….
Yes, "standing on the shoulders of giants" is true, and definitely the years of LSDJ refinement paved the way for M8. But consider, LSDJ is software running on Nintendo hardware - so, equally, LSDJ team were standing on the shoulders of giants.
Considering Nintendo did not invent the microprocessor, the transistor, or electricity, batteries etc, I guess they were standing on the shoulders of giants... And so on...
All products stand on the shoulders of giants that came before. Why single out the M8??!!
So, yes, your point is true - but nobody reinvents the wheel these days, why would they. Do not underestimate the time and work that goes into designing and building a commercial product, especially where hardware is concerned. I know so many dudes who have ideas for products or software (I myself am a software engineer, albeit a lazy one lol) - but they never realise these dreams.
So I guess when people talk of "one man built the M8", it is actually pretty accepted as having been built with existing tech - honestly, nobody builds anything from scratch - it would be really stupid to do so, and M8 would take 20+ years to build instead, and would be absolutely riddled with bugs! Trash80 decided to dedicate years of his life, and apply his years of experience with LSDJ to build his ultimate version of the platform. Seriously, that's legendary.
So, considering that without Trash80, the M8 would NOT exist, and accepting that "standing on the shoulders of giants" is a given these days, saying the M8 exists because of one man is not wrong - and it's a real achievement.
So, although I sort of agree with your statement, I don't like that it kind of over simplifies the mountain of work that went into making this particular dream into a reality.
Trash80 is considered a legend, and rightfully so!
Anyway, please don't take any offence, this is just my 2 cents!
@@mrclaytron Well, I’m sorry my comment triggered you.
@@maximerobin haha, no it's cool man - I'm not triggered (sorry if I sounded that way!)
@@mrclaytron I didn’t know if responding to your points would be just making an argument. You are right nearly anything is influenced or based on other things. I would add « at different degrees ». Some like the M8 very much so. Some like the OP-1, not so much. Both are great machines nevertheless. You assume by saying the M8 is not one man’s creation that I mean it was not work. So I’m glad to tell you it’s definitely not what I meant. It’s quite an achievement indeed. By the way, I single out the M8 and the OP-1 here because they are the subjects of this video. And I single out the Polyend Tracker in the other comment because it was named as another similar tracker in the video.
I guess I’m triggered by the too good to be true one man behind a machine story that marketing want to sell us. Knowing this about the M8, I ask myself if it’s the same about the deluge? Maybe some key concept of it seems original to me because I’m not part of the scene it’s coming from?
I’m a big Koala Sampler user now. The story is one man made a way better sampler app then AKAI or Native Instruments. Some prefer using Koala Sampler over using the SP404. (Similar resampling workflow) These people think that the new mkII is a let down by Roland. The story is suspicious but Koala is still the better app and the creator should be proud of it. The new update is quite something.
The first time I saw an OP-1, I thought it was the cheap, full-featured, tiny synth workstation that I’ve been expecting to flood the market for the past two decades. I don’t understand why there aren’t dozens of Chinese manufacturers filling this billion dollar hole in the market. The first one to grab mainstream appeal will sell like fidget-spinners.
If Ableton can make something like this as a push mini.
hey algorythme he's still here!
Thank you!!🎉 Still here and makin noise🤣 see you soon🤟🏻
I wanna try it
Still here
interesting!
The day my M8 arrived, I disappeared for 4 hours and resurfaced with the types of sounds I've been chasing for the last couple of years. It's an absolute joy to use and a total world creator.
I really hope this takes up the OP-1s market share. The price of the OP-1 is disgustingly high and someone needs to fight against it
I agree.
I dont know, most good quality guitars go for about the same price. Music gear is and will always be expensive AF.
@@ayatan9119 Not the same at all....and music gear isn't expensive....Get out more....
@@sonicmistress you might have a different definition of expensive... I don't consider 5 grand expensive for a motorcycle but a beginner with less income would. So I guess... Get out more?
At this point it's not even about money, it's about TE being an absurd company that many people claim to be designer brand and not music equipment brand.
at this price range and considering sequencing capabilities, a comparaison against op-z would have been more accurate for me
Or for the money buy a real Synth....and a real Seq....and have change....FFS....
@@sonicmistress like what grumpy pants?
M8 user here. I just want to echo the idea that it feels a bit like a video game or a puzzle to write music on this. I couldn’t agree more and I think that’s a good thing. The dream of something like the OP-1 is that you can use it on a long trip, but whenever i’ve tried to do that I’ve found myself uninspired to create musical ideas. With the M8, I don’t feel so daunted because I just can start plugging notes in until I have something that I like. The song mode makes it so easy to build up chains into full songs that before I know it, I have a fully fleshed our idea and I’ve arrived at my destination.
I wouldn’t sweat the workflow too much. I got used it pretty quickly without much tracker experience in the past. The software was modeled after LSDJ so it was always intended to be able to be picked up easily by a wide audience. Before I made the plunge, I got a Teensy and made a M8 headless unit to see if I would gel with the workflow, and that helped a lot.
You know, now that we know the price of the OP-1 Field, I think we're gonna see a few more sales for the M8.
When I first saw M8, my first thought was "Is that a Gameboy Clone made by an Industrial Designer?"
But it sounded awesome, so I looked up the website.
It said the M8 was inspired by a program called LSDJ. Looked that up and found it's a tracker software made for the original Game Boy.
Suddenly, the M8's design and layout made perfect sense as it somewhat replicates the Game Boy layout.
Went ahead and got the parts for a headless M8 and have been running it on my laptop with a game controller and having a blast while I wait for the next round of pre-orders to start delivering. :)
I’m confused about what you’re all saying because I’m a newb but I feel like this is pretty badass and I want to do it as well. Lol
@@UbiDoobyBanooby Heh... It gets even better when you find out that the LSDJ software is inspired by even older software that ran on the Commodore Amiga. :D
im glad someone brought up lsdj cuz the thumbnail of the layout made me click into this video... ive been looking into poclet operators... might just pop out my lsdj and gameboy pocket
@@JakeSweeper I get that, but what’s this headless business? Are you telling me I can get a M8 chip and run it on my computer?
@@UbiDoobyBanooby The Headless M8 is a Teensy 4.1 circuit board ($30) that you flashed the M8 software onto along with a compatible micro SD card and you run it using your PC as a display. You can also use a game controller to represent the buttons of the M8.
This gives you most of the functionality of the M8 for a low cost of entry. It's great on its own or as way to practice while you wait for the M8s to start being delivered again.
I am loving the trend of more affordable synths for those of us just dipping our toes into creating music with them
It's still a little pricey. That said OP-1 Field is not a move in the right direction either 💀
LOL. you can buy a real Synth for what this plastic toy costs, and the OP saying the OP1 is the Gold Standard....What an idiot....hahaha, you can get a $5 App that can do more.....Mugs selling their affiliate links and will say anything....$500 for this piece of crap....Gear snobbery for fools....
As someone who has been using the M8 for almost two years now I find it difficult to not come across as completely biased when I sing it praises, so it makes me happy to hear some objective reviews of the device talking about both its perceived strengths and potential weaknesses. This might be my favorite introductory to it so far, I love your honesty. Cheers!!
I love the M8 - feels like I am hacking the matrix and is very intuitive to use. I am struggling with sound design though - the FM and MI based synth are deep!
"At first glance, m8 is ticking all the boxes"...Nice! Appropriate. To me it never seemed like this could replace the op1 (which I don't have. Too spendy for me). The format of op1 is traditional so anyone who's played a toy piano as a child would feel familiar with it. Granted, the m8 has a Gameboy feel, so perhaps some (all my friends are synths) will have a similar familiarity experience, but not everyone has had a Gameboy. I was more curious about the experience and sound relative to the polyend tracker. But I completely see your point about pocketability and muscle memory. That's a huge plus for me and I don't have a machine that "ticks" those boxes. Would you be willing to do a comparison with the polyend for workflow and sound? That would be interesting.
I'm a huge fan of the M8, and Trackers in general, but they are so different to the OP-1 I can't even imagine comparing them.
*In amfas vocoder voice*: totally agreee
Tags what I'm saying, Just judge stuff on its own merit
Well I don’t agree that the M8 is a OP-1 killer because TE killed the OP-1 themselves by pricing it out of the market. But I understand his point, with the OP-1 out of reach of most people, we might see an influx of new users for the M8 because there’s not a lot of portable devices on which you can compose a multi track song. I think the M8 will become pretty popular for people who like composing music on the go.
Try starting at the price lol.
@@suntzu6122 I mean I can get a bike for £50 and a car for £5,000, and they both get me places, but that doesn't mean much.
As a long-time Little Sound DJ user, M8tracker is a dream come true.
So happy to hear you enjoyed the experience too, cheers! :)
Coming from a software background, my new Polyend tracker does actually feel a bit like programming music, which makes it less intimidating for me to use it and to get into the scene. So I guess, as usual, the experience varies per person.
That’s the beauty of being spoiled for choice nowadays! Thankfully there is something for everyone❤️ happy beatmaking!
tick all the boxes? man, audioplz has like 0.1 subscribers... hahah u thief! kkkkkkklmao
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Instead of “programming music” I would call it “composing music”.
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I'm not a musician/musical artist and I ordered an M8 on the first preorder. I'm a tech enthusiast with interest in music, and the M8 has given me not only a wonderfully satisfying tactile experience in using the device, but has taught me a lot about making music and making it accessible to me in an easy to use and HIGHLY portable package. I've also own an OP-1 for about 6 years now for this reason, and I'd easily say both the OP-1 and M8 are the coolest things I probably own that I *make time* to sit down and use.
Cool vid. Algorithm, promote this shit!
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You are all going to laugh at yourselfs for this and be like...why did I get something I could easily have in a better product lmao
The entire can't use samples with an SD card on the op 1 field is a huge turn off and work with digitakt etc. M8 hands down.
Dude, how is it that you're making me GAS for this thing now...
😅 sorry…😜
i like the sound and look of this, but the UI looks like the OP-1 but for people who play Dwarf Fortress
$500? for that price i could buy a dedicated tablet and load up serum. and still have $300 left over.
Op-1 was over-priced and its UI was a bit hacky. The industry can do better.
The tracker doesn't do it for me. No matter how good it sounds I just can't work with a tracker 🙁
You really make it hard to control our G.A.S.....
Nice bad gear reference! Hehe
As an M8 headless user for a bit now I’ll answer... yes !
Lol! Thanks for watching my friend! The M8 sure is interesting and I hope it gets widely well recieved, it is truly unique!
the demo song at 3:04 reminded me a bit of droopy likes ricochet by c418, i like it!
It’s so cool that you cover a wide range of music making possibilities. I admire your resilience and patience. Although not a thing I’d consider making music with, I find this style fascinating. I remember a Japanese woman wrote a novel on her train commute using an old flip phone. This lil guy would be great for a commuter to write their opus. Then you mention midi connectivity and it’s like wow this thing is really meant for a lot of different applications. I also see that red means recording made an album using this thing and it’s a trip. Wild!
Hey brother! Happy to see you here and glad you liked the video! The M8 is indeed special, even though it is a bit “out there” vs more mainstrem devices. It’s not for everyone but I found it to be a blast! Lots of love my friend, see you soon!
Whats the novel called? Id love to read it
New OP1 will be killed by silly price, no anything else can be an OP1 killer
I see it's been a year since you posted this video and the M8 is now up to version 3.03 and like a fine wine, it keeps getting better and better.
Thanks bro! Glad you found the awesome inside the M8! Too bad it happened in the bathroom. Make sure you wipe it down before shipping it back... 🤣
😅😅 “no M8s where soiled or harmed during the filming of this video”
Ps: thanks again brother! Literally could not have done it without you❤️
Just like you asked - dropping a line in a comments :)
OP1 is and always will be a joke. A hipster toy for rich folk who aren’t musicians.
How do you feel about the new K.O. II?
How’s customer support?
Teenage Engineering is terrible in this regard. ZERO HELP
Wish I could answer but never needed any so far. From what I gather, the community Discord seems to be pretty on top of things (the owner/creator of dirtywave is there as well). Hope that helps! Thanks for watching!
Admittedly, I'm looking for a synth that's more like programming, being a programmer, and not great at keys.
You will probably adore the M8 then lol
Some great humor in this one. Edit: also, calling it a musical puzzle definitely convinced me to set up a headless M8 to try it out.
Hi Corey! Nice to see you here again bro 🤟🏻 definitely check it out! Though I would go for the full unit as it is really a very cohesive and appealing design and a unique experience to use👍🏼 let me know how it goes, cheers!
Dropping a line to let them know you’re here
Ah, it is similar to LSDJ on the Game Boy ^^
@MidlifeSynthesist Excellent breakdown, and sold me on the M8, which I've been loving, and is a real game changer for my workflow. Thanks! As someone who uses the Keystep 37 extensively, and whose focus has been a small modular setup (you also sold me on another game changer for me...the Disting EX), I was wondering if you could briefly describe how your using the keystep-> M8-> O-Coast setup in this vid?
Hi Michael! Thank you for the kind words! Since I made this video a while back I couldn’t exactly say😅 If I had to guess, I’m probably sequencing 0-coast on channel 9 and the tracks on m8 1-8, controlling all with the keystep. Sorry I can’t be more helpful😂 Thanks for watching!
@@MidlifeSynthesist Ah, got it, and makes sense. So there's probably a midi hub off screen, which was throwing me. Looking forward to trying the M8 sequencing the Disting EX via the midi breakout, and possibly routing back through the M8 effects and filter. Thanks again!
Been trying to get into more hardware toys as I mainly produce music solely with Ableton using my midi keyboard and another synth and I'm wondering how much of a learning curve a tracker would be? This really caught my eye, but it definitely looks overwhelming considering I haven't had any exposure. Curious what ya'll think. I'd appreciate any insight. Thanks!
Honestly I found the learning curve not very steep at all. I learned the whole thing in less than a day, and I'm an idiot. It's not nearly as complex as it looks
I want it. Yes I do. I would also like to see you make a video where you show us your song writing/sound design workflow while you make a song for us.
lol the reference to Audio Philz
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Great video! Really have been interested in the Polyend Tracker since the beginning. As a Renoise user I’d feel right at home! But the M8 is very intriguing as my desk is space limited and most my gear purchases have to be more portable. Thank you and happy jamming!
I feel the need to point out this thing is heavily based on the LSDJ tracker for Gameboy. The smooth muscle memory based workflow you praised so much comes directly from it, and if you look at the button layout, you'll realize it's essentially a gameboy, with for directional buttons on the left, A and B buttons on the right, and Start and Select below. It was a great review, and it's amusing to watch someone who's not coming from chiptune enjoy this thing so much, but it felt wrong to get all the praise directed at the guy who made the M8 instead of the creator of LSDJ, since the M8 is basically a guy going "man, LSDJ's workflow and interface are fantastic, I wish it wasn't limited to the gameboy's four monophonic channels" and then working from there.
...prototype units of the m8 had select and start printed on instead of shift and play. pics of them are still pretty easy to find but u know that probably ;)
also yes, as someone who started using lsdj over a decade ago (omg...I'm getting old), it's a gameboy on steriods with wasd/arrow keys layout. lots of people forget its ergonomics is also based upon using it with the usb connected to a pc and streaming its screen onto a monitor. those rubber feet on the buttom are there for a reason^^
now, it becomes a controller with touchscreen, the software is now like using a tracker daw while using the arrow keys is exactly the same like using a pc with index, middle and ringfinger, not just with ur thumbs like when u hold it in ur hands instead. its really kinda cool cause thats a consequence of its desig, topshelf is just its pcb but the backside.
btw, I'm also seeing live fun with it, screen sharing onto a big screen with a projector while with the other hand is on a midi controller to change parameter like filter cutoff/resonance
As always, entertaining and informative review! Fun is definitely a factor for me. I also have to say musicians should spend a few dollars and get Koala sampler on their smart phones. It is a fun experience that you can take anywhere and it goes deeper than you might think.
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I just don't get these devices. I grew up with hardware like this, and one of my bandmates came up with the phrase "like trying to decorate the front hall through the letterbox", which perfectly described the clicky-clunky experience of trying to get anything done. Back then it was the only choice we had, since Synclaviers and Fairlights were out of the question. Things got easier when we started using computers for sequencing, and eventually the limitations evaporated when soft synths arrived. Why anyone would subject themselves to this torture is beyond me.
Algorithm! He's still here getting views and more subs!!
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I'd buy this before an OP-1. That being said, I don't think either are for me.
Great review - I've had my M8 for a few weeks now, and absolutely love it. Because of work, I haven't got as much time to spend with it as I'd like, but it's so easy to just pick up and start messing with, it's brilliant.
Firstly, I love both M8 and OP-1. They are both very different devices, but I personally feel more productive on the M8.
Something I wish the M8 had, which OP-1 has, is a built in mic, I like being able to just randomly record stuff with my OP-1, and instantly be able to play it. Like the importance of built in speakers, I think a built in mic is super useful on portable devices. That being said, I was able to plug my Android phone in via USB and sample directly from it, no config or anything - which is very nice.
Being able to work, and save MULTIPLE tracks, and load them instantly is another area where the M8 beats the OP-1. I absolutely hate that the OP-1 only has one lousy 6 minute tape available (and the record device thing I suppose). For me, this means I only ever use the OP-1 for writing exported loops. The M8 is MUCH more suited for full song composition.
I think the instruments on the M8 are much more predictable, and sound can really be created with purpose. Because of the M8s implementation of instrument tables, I don't think the OP-1 can compete with the M8 for complex synthesis.
Note on instrument tables: Think of a dedicated sequence, per instrument (well, "per instrument" by default, but tables can be shared across instruments, one table can even trigger another table... Like tables within tables... Yeah, Table Inception is a thing!!). This Table sequence triggers every time an instrument note is played - and it can affect lots of parameters, for example:
- sample start, length and loop position (I can see M8 edging towards granular synthesis in future - it already has the basics) - you can even fudge propper time-stretching by modulating sample values!
- LFO and envelope values
- Relative note triggering (for the most flexible arps to make even Octatrack users jealous!)
- complex pitch slides
- random generative sequences
- parameters of OTHER tracks can be modified
- step speed - the table can modify its own speed and groove... (Oh grooves, another amazing feature, super well thought out and implemented... but I digress!)
It's mind blowing... Some of the generative stuff that people are doing with the M8 is amazing!
For the most part, the OP-1 synths are kind of like "just keep randomly tweaking things until it sounds good" - which can be a lot of fun for sure, and you can definitely learn the sweet spots, but I sometimes find it frustrating, and end up just trying to find a sample instead. Also, the shared drum kit envelopes are not very good on OP-1. Like, they are infamously bad!
The OP-1 is more immediate for note input though. Sometimes you just want to play out a melody inn that little keyboard. The M8 can't do that without plugging in an external keyboard.
I already love trackers. I spent many years of my youth writing my crappy tracker music on the Amiga in the 80s and 90s... If someone does not like trackers, then they will not like the M8, no matter what its specs and UI are like. That being said, anyone who loves the Elektron sequencers and workflow would probably love working with the M8. Elektron sequencers are like trackers in disguise!)
Watching videos does not do the M8 justice. When you use it, and start to see how smart and intuitive the UI is, it just becomes so much fun to use.
Finally, the M8 is not cheap. It does have very good build quality, not quite to OP-1 level, but it's super solid. I don't however think the M8 is over priced - considering it's a boutique instrument, the price is actually very reasonable. The OP-1, on the other hand, is in no way worth its price. I have it because it's unique, and I like it. It was difficult to justify the OP-1 purchase though. The M8 was far easier to justify.
As you can see, I'm pretty passionate about this little tracker. Trash80 is an absolute legend, I'm in total awe that one man was able to create something that is, in many ways, better than what larger synth companies with lots of employees can build. I feel inspired by this fact every time I turn it on.
EDIT: I had previously said you could probably use the OP-1 connected to the M8 as a MIDI controller. That's not really the case. The M8 does not function as a USB host, so this probably wouldn't work (I cannot test as I don't have a mini USB to micro USB cable). I've removed that statement from my post.
wow this could've been it's own video, thank you! def going to consider this; like you said, way easier to justify than the op1.
Not sure whether they'd work nicely together, but if they did, M8 plus KMI's new QuNexus seem like an ultra portable solution to add a small keyboard (may need a power bank for the QuNexus, or can the M8 host and power non-power-greedy devices?).
See loopop's review of the new QuNexus here:
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Note that the problems of the old version apparently have been (mostly?) addressed.
When did you order yours? And did it take a super long time from when they started shipping?
@@helloneibor7586 I ordered mine on January 18 (Australia). It took a while before it was shipped - it was shipped on February 5. Once it was shipped, I received it within 3 days.
I was one of the lucky ones who managed to get an order in for the batch that sold out in less than 8 hours.
If you are buying/brought one, good luck, and I hope you are able to get that M8 in your hands soon!
@@stefanherzog I think you are right - OP-1 would likely not work with the M8 over USB, as the M8 does not work as a USB Host - I cannot test as I don't have a mini USB to micro USB cable. I wish the OP-1 had separate MIDI out...
I have connected the M8 via USB to the Maschine +, and that works OK... MIDI and audio over USB... although it means you'd need to use the M8 as the in/out for all audio on Maschine +, which works, but might not suit all setups.
The QuNexus looks interesting. I don't think the M8 will supply power over USB (though I'm really not sure), and cannot behave as a USB host, so maybe this would not work either.
I really wish the M8 had USB C. Trash80 originally wanted to put USB C, but there were issues with that, so he had to go with micro USB. Shame... USB micro to USB micro (OTG cables), or USB Mini cables are harder to come by.
hello algorithm, this person is still here
IMO it looks like someone took LSDJ for the gameboy and gave it dedicated midi.. You can do midi on the gameboy but its more of a hack that needs a dongle, this is built in. Even if it is mini jack midi.
I wish its had type C connection.
0:35 nooooo PUTIN face AGAAAAIN dude I happen to watch you from Russia and I thought I’d die if I saw it one more time today so i died^)
I grew up with ModPlug Tracker in the late 90's/early 2000's.. I used it for probably 6 years and loved how quick it was to layout an idea. I since moved on to other DAWs like Reason, then later landing on Ableton for the last 10 years. While I'm content with Ableton, I don't feel like I can layout an idea as quickly as I was able to with a tracker. Polyend announced their Mini Tracker yesterday, and hilariously enough, it got me looking at the M8 again. I was always kind of put off by the low availability before as I've always suffered from the "I want it now." syndrom.. but I'm happy to say I put in a pre-order last night for one and can't wait for it to arrive (hopefully in July). It really feels like the instrument/groovebox/daw that I've been dreaming of my entire music making life. Normally a high learning curve would put me off on an instrument (I went through hell and back with the Octatrack 10 years ago), but I understand Trackers to a degree, so I don't think it will feel as daunting. Great video. Subbed. :D