This Thing Should Not Be This Cheap 🤯 || Making Some Epic Cinematic Synth Stuff
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- Опубліковано 10 кві 2022
- Howdy! I've been looking around for cheap gear that's actually awesome, and I wanted to share this really affordable effects pedal that's insanely powerful.
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"What this guy is skilled at I have no idea" 😂 Maybe if he had done a bit research instead of writing useless lists, he may have found out. Btw., when I introduced your channel to a friend he immediately reacted with "omg, he's so prolific!" and I'm 75% sure, he meant productive and not reproductive. 🤣
The list seems to be deleted 🤣😂🤣
here's a request - Harley Benton Pedals, they've recently released a bunch of mini pedals at €20 per pedal! Super cheap but they may sound quite good regardless! Go look em up! :)
:3 Shalom.
You're my 2nd favorite dirty hipster, I don't care what everyone else says about you
maybe everything else shouldn't be as expensive
First to reply. Shalom. :3
Let me ask you this: whats the most common reason things become "cheap" during production?
When I sleep the turtles borrow my eyes so when I wake up I'm fine but they're still tired@@Yoda1903
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Very tasteful same-hand pitch bends during your demos! I use a Neunaber Immerse Mk2 with my Microfreak but the little Zoom emanates an undeniable Fun Factor despite being bizarrely fugly. It's the Pontiac Aztec of FX pedals. Thanks for this great sounding video!
A marriage made in heaven. I have x2 Zoom 70's. One for my Microfreak and the other for my Korg Monologue.
IMO both the microfreak AND the Zoom pedal go above and beyond their price...
Can you translate that into humanspeak English? It seems you're saying they now sell for over their price?
@@noth606 they perform better than their price point, they punch above their weight.
The image quality here is pro-level. looks so crisp. Very nicely done!
Visible evidence of classic MF lenses confirms that our presenter might also be a great photographer.
Because he uses expensive camera gear instead of cheap camera gear because he doesn't want to have to be creative
I’ve had the Zoom MS-50G for several years, and it’s pretty much the same but with amp and cab models for guitar and bass. You can’t beat it for the price and portability.
FYI: A company called ToneLib has a free Zoom software editor for controlling parameters on your computer for lots of Zoom pedals including this and the MS-50G.
The nice thing about the MS70-CDR that you can patch it to use the effects of its sibling models built for guitar and bass - meaning Tube amps with spring reverb and the like. Even more effect combinations than are already built-in!
so i've had the ms 70 for 2 years and i'm very happy with it, especially for synthesizers as an add-on it's hard to beat for the price. 👌
Already have a ms-7-cdr for the price it is a no brainer. Great little pedal even with a few limitations. Now, I better go and update it.
Great video, and I was totally thrilled that the MS-70CDR is getting some much deserved love. I think it's awesome, despite some idiosyncrasies. There is another pedal I bought a couple of years ago, which is another HUGE bang for the buck and sounds amazing, but gets little to no attention on the interwebs. It's the Mooer Audio Ocean Machine. It's a dual delay + reverb with a lot of bells and whistles. I would LOVE it if you did a video on that thing....
I also own both.
Idk why but seeing the morning coffee logo just brings me a real nice blast of serotonin and dopamine it’s wonderful. Thanks for all you do VT
I actually use three MS-70CDR's in my shoegaze band, where I play guitar and a Microfreak. the first one is at the very start of my guitar pedalboard, and I've loaded it up with a chain that includes a noise suppressor, a gate, some EQ, and some light compression. if you hold down the foot pedal for a moment, it enters tuner mode. so this one pedal takes the place of 4-5. the next one I use as Zoom intended. once I have a chain of effects that works for a particular song, I save it under the name of the song so I can easily swap back and forth when I'm playing live. the third one I use with my Microfreak. I modified the firmware so that it also has some of fuzzes and distortions from the MS-50G. they make the Microfreak sound so fat and warm!
My introduction to this pedal was a whole mess of volca FM + MS70CDR ambient videos. It’s great for small setups.
Another great presentation. I have a MS-70CDR for my Monologue and I love it. I recently bought a second one very cheap and I connected to my mixer's fx return for my other hardware. Thank you for your inspiring jam and sounds. I need these presets
I love mine, lots of high quality effects and once you get your head round how to get the best out of it, it's a very versatile stompbox although the tap function and ability to scroll through patches live could definately be improved, but for 75 quid used, who's complaining!
I've been wondering if an effects pedal would be a useful companion for my MicroFreak. So far I've used an Audio In track on my Deluge to give it some effects. It's true the effects in the Deluge are nothing amazing but they're far better than none.
Nice work with that synth. The Chimera DS pack is fabulous! I have downloaded several sample packs for the DS, but was not that impressed or just thought they were sounds I wouldn't use. Chimera, however, is excellent! I do love me some deep delicious drones (he said, alliteratively). Great work on the samples. Very usable.
Hi Cameron
I wondering are you still using
Mixcraf Pro 9 for making music? Or any other Daw in the market you’re recommend?
Thank you
I played piano when i was 5 and 6. Then i quit but taking lessons but always goofed around with one when one was around. I play guitar and bass and can knock out a basic drum beat. I like writing my own songs and have been slowly acquiring the instruments needed to put together a home studio. Ive been trying to decide on the most inexpensive synth i could get that would give me floyd type sounds. The ability to play some funk as well. This setup youve put together sounds awesome to me. Great vid
Have one. It's a must have. I reserved an aux/send on my Mackie just for her, always in place.
I'm here for my daily dose of buckeroonieness. This channel has seriously been my morning meditation.
Haha I'm honored. Your channel has been a massive inspiration for me over the years!
@@VenusTheory haha that’s cool to hear bro.
I use the Zoom ms70cdr in my LoFi setup FX loop , works really well.
ToneLib is a great editor for this pedal.
Wow, some of the sounds you were making at the end sounded incredible!
Yep this and the line6 m5 pedal are both great cheap multi-tools to have. The m5 i think has better sound quality, but can only do one effect at once. So they're both really useful!
I really enjoy mine for trying out new genres of effects without needing to splurge on a specific pedal first. If I decide to experiment for the first time with univibe/ring modulation/reverse delay/whatever I can just dial it in and discover if I love or hate it without a tonne of research and expenditure, then waiting for it to arrive.
Great post! I have both the units. I hope i am not having a stupid question, but how do I find the MS70CDR presets on your site?
Need to sell some more PRO LEVEL MIDI chord packs to bump yourself up the list there
You mean hacker level ?
@@PapyPetitPois Naw these ones have ALL the pro level chords
please no
@@GizzyDillespee Yeah but hacker is superior to pro. It's god equivalent.
I regret buying the unison midi chord pack… I’ve only used the pack one and ‘Sep from Unison’ emails me even more than my own family 😔
I love all those patches you played at the end of the video. Really beautiful
I do not have a microfreak but every time I hear it it's amazing you can get one new for 350 bucks. The zoom pedal isn't perfect but there's plenty of boutique reverb that aren't much better, cost twice as much and aren't as flexible. Add a distortion pedal and maybe a compressor and volume pedal and it can turn a pedal board into a much smaller setup than some people use.
I have yet to attempt the sort of 'hack' to load the MS50 effects on to it - would be great to get some distortions and cab sims in the mix!
@@VenusTheory they also have some great vocal filter/talk box effects! Got a B3 and I have yet to find a pedal that could recreate these sounds without spending 350 or something
I’ve been tempted to get one of the Zoom pedals to hook my Freak up to, it sounds great. At the moment I have it going through my Dreadbox Typhon which has a pretty good / interesting FX section + it also goes through another filter section. Obviously more expensive set up than what’s on the video, but a pretty nice combo.
What's that running on the computer behind your shoulder, out-of-focus in the opening and closing bits? Looks like a spectrograph and maybe volume levels and some other kind of audio analysis visualizer tools?
I just got pigments and hearing you say you can sample in it made me feel even better about the purchase. Can't wait to sing into pigments and layer it with a pad lol
Pigments is the coolest vst synth ever. My all time favorite
I Just Purchased this same Combination and was wondering how to connect the Microfreak to the Pedal into My Interface.
My ms pedal has static noise on high end unfortunately, so I have no filter it after and loose natural high end. So it’s useful only with lp filter at the end
Have it, love it. Also have two MicroFreaks. Very powerful combination, as you can plug both MicroFreaks into the Zoom, for great stereo arpeggios, and sonic greatness.
So im curious does this pedal come with anything or do you have to download all the sounds? I hate the extra work if that's the case and how difficult is it to download?
There's also a hack where you can load algorithms from the MS-50, as well as G and B series Zoom pedals if you're looking for a more gnarly sound.
And vice versa. I was able to load a ton of algorithms from the 70 into my 50. I got my 50 for $80 and it's just fun. Plus, these things respond to MIDI (patch changes) so you can have your main sequencer drive this during a live set.
@@CaptainCoffee-III how do you set the pedal up to respond to midi, I’ve had mine for a few years and never knew it was possible.
@@kentaccordionist same here... though if I had to guess I'd imagine it shows up as a midi device over usb
YEAH! The only reason I got this pedal was because of the hack. You can use/add effects from like every pedal ZOOM ever made! Plus being able to chain 2 to 3 to 4 different pedals together and so many great clones of popular pedals for the price it is hard to beat.
Where can I do this?
Cool stuff! Cheap hardware doesn't mean "bad hardware".
But in this case it counts. That pedal is a waste of money.
Not recommended, not just for fun. It texturizes your incoming signal extremely poor and bad. This isnt what u want your instruments to sound like.
The lesson here is you can make a lot of plug-ins sound GREAT if you know what you're doing.
This is my exact Setup of my 1st synth + 1st Pedal, Great work my friend!!
At about 11:50 was my favorite sound. I tend to like things a bit lower in frequency these days. 😄👍🏼
+1!
Very much like Sicario, haunting sound
You know, the MS-70CDR enters the above dimension when you command it from the app on a tablet, or even from your phone. It then becomes an amazing effect rack with great easiness of tweaking.
You can control it from your phone???
@@IcarusNadir Yes, you can!
I really love the microfreak. It is my on the sofa doodling in headphones while my husband watches basketball synth. The microfreak is like Plaits on steroids. the UI is fun and all those piano lessons from elementary school are still useful. For effects I sometimes dump it straight into clouds for some old-school eurorack granular fun. I also have the Strymon starlab in the rack. What is weird is I have many efx pedals for my bass and guitars, but i usually do not run my synths through them. I'm not sure why but between instruments I don't share efx. Hmm.
Now THAT is a really specific kind of synth!
@@loslosbaby Just happy to have survived another march.
Your husband must be a very happy man.
@@gardenroom2253 He likes Louisville. so not really.
@@mimikova390 if he's a Louisville basketball fan then yeah, I'd imagine he's not in the best place lately.
I was using my Microfreak the same way as you, except it was when my wife's true crime shows were on. Now my band's synth player is borrowing it from me and I have to go get my Minilogue XD, which isn't quite as comfortable on the couch.
You should definitely do voice overs. You have the voice for commercials and other voice over stuff 👍🏻👍🏻. Great content by the way
Love my hydra and micro freak. Having a tough time w the blofeld. I think I just have too many synths (for me). Two is enough Mite put the blofeld away for a bit to see if I miss it. Great video. That plug-in sounded too good. Geeze
Hmm do i need a Zoom when i have a Nts1 ? I have some pretty good Custom Reverbs, and im Wondering what can the Zoom do what NTs not can do
Also I just grabbed decent sampler and saw that they had your kit, I haven’t got to use it yet, but That’s Awesome man! I can’t wait to play around with it next time get a minute to sit down to create some stuff 👏
Microfreak is by far the best gear for the price point! And you can make so many diffrent and usful sound design with it! And the zoom is dope as well ! Good pair together ;)
I want one but I just got a Korg Wavestate for the price of one and now I don't know if getting it as well would be redundant!
@@DelScully as much as i love the crave i really want an 100% analog synth such as behinger crave. His got 1 ocs but is a real beast ;) basiclly the freak can be th ultimate synth for me if all his knobs would not be unlimtless potentiometers
i finally got one a month or so back. i own 5 analog synths. they are great too but this thing is a treat to play.
I just ran my Korg Monologue through my Zoom B1 Four and Palmer Pocket Amp Bass. Every effect worked like intended. I had my eye on this pedal before that, but after daring to try the pedals I had with the Monologue, I lost the need to get this. Blows my mind how suitable the stuff from Zoom is with all the gear I can think of.
Quality content BTW, helped me to make my mind with the Modal Cobalt 5s, which was the synth in mind when I started to test and mess about with B14, Palmer Pocket Amp and synths.
The Ice Delay is based off of Strymon Timeline's "Ice" Mode. So that effect alone makes these MultiStomps pretty worthy!
It's nutty how much they crammed on to this little pedal. Of course things don't sound 1:1 identical but I'll be damned if it doesn't sound good.
The strymon version is based on an eventide harmonizer preset, i think it was called crystals or something
@@PeterJaquesMusic It is very similar to the Eventide Crystals algo, which I also have in pedal and plugin form. I think there's some slight differences though, there's a "Slice" and "Smear" setting which is not featured on the Crystals. But Crystals gives you built-in Reverb along with the reverse pitch delays.
I had this pedal, and sold it to my regret... In my dawless setup I'va lacked a REALLY good reverb until I found the VENTRIS dual reverb and the reverbs on the Korg NTS-1... I hadn't heard any hardware good reverbs until then.. Ironically now that I have these creamy great reverbs I really miss the quirkiness and multi optional possibilities on the MS70 CDR and am absolutely gonna buy it again after I get bored of making my own algorithms for the NTS-1 :D Maybe sometimes one needs to get bored of clean perfect reverbs to enjoy the more granular quirky reverbs and delays and the other way around as well I suppose :D Love your presentation and contents, Sir, as always!
That's a really nice unit because yu can make chains with it and also add presets. For the price it's excellent because it's programmable. Didn't see that one coming. Had no idea it did all that. I also need to get the decent sample, I can make "kontakt" like instruments with it as well as use your creations in it, that alone makes it a Monster. Thanks for the upload
Hey Venus Theory!
Any plans to coninue using FL?
Just curious.
What is that beautiful Tangerine Dream inspired patch at 12:24? Is it the patch or the effect making that wash?
What glasses frames do you wear mate? Would love a pair myself!
I have 3 of it for my synth and groove box setup, you still need some distortion box.
Other then amp sim and distortion it is a must have.
Brilliant melody’s from some gritty cinematic sci fi horror like sounds to some simply beautiful soundscapes impressive 👍
Nice show mate. I've had the Blue and Red (bass version) for years. You can get some mind blowing effects if you really dial in the settings. I think 3 layers of effects is fine in the chain to get a clearer... less mushy sound. These pedals are not for tone snobs, he he. They work wonders on synths and drum machines. I produce UK Garage and Jungle, these pedals have been sampled and featured on about 40 EPs released my me.
Baby it ain't the instrument... These pedals have a cult following for a reason.
Bless you, love and respect from Berlin.
there is a ms-100bt multistomp, which is stereo as well, comes with 99 processors stock, but if you download stompshare on an old ipad or iphone, you get like 96 extra audio units for free. works practically the same as the ms70cdr, but with a lot more options.
I have this little unit and haven't even cracked the surface with it. It does so much and possibilities seem endless. I got it for the shimmer and backhole FX for synth but as learning guitar as well it seemed liked a good starter pedal as you can checkout different pedals FX . If not sure what the FX are at first. Rather than buy separate pedal everytime. For £85 British poundingtons it was a no brainer. I use mine through the FX send on mixing desk.
Good call for gear that most people can actually afford. I got an MS70 after Waveformer(youtuber) worked insane magic with his 3 MS70's. I usually dont chain over 3 effects and it behaves very well. Glad you mentioned the real cherry on top: that software that enables the MS70 to have basically any patch zoom has created loaded onto it. I have not even needed to worry about that yet. what is in there is almost too much. another crazy pedal you might like is the oceans 12 stereo reverb from EHX. it has 2 separate engines and a ton of combinations. BUT it is like $260. BUT still cheaper than the real nice pedals. PS. The freak sounds off the chain when controlled from a large keyboard. mono or paraphonic, you just cant play that keyboard beyond simple notes and doing noises. I made a demo video demoing several factory patches on the freak, but played from a yamaha MX88 as the controller. sections 3 and 4 dont even sound like it is the freak, but it is all 1 track, some with some reverb from the mixer ua-cam.com/video/unwbP8bXxMs/v-deo.html
I know this is an audio channel but the video production is fantastic. Subbed.
Thanx for all your videos, they have been great help for me. I have a sugestion: have you tried the Mooer Ocean Machine pedal? I have one and I love it, try it if you can. Keep up the good work.
Haven't heard of it - will add it to the list!
Currently the Arturia Microfreak is the only hardware synth and Zoom MS-70 CDR is the only effects pedal I have and I feel very inspired every time I try to create something with them. Actually, every musical idea I have starts from jamming on these two. But, I would like to get some bigger, analogue (maybe) synthesiser in some near future.
I got the Novation Bass Station II as my first analog synth and I love it
There’s always more synths to have ;)
Behringer ftw
Let me propose a synth+ pedal: Empress Zoia. I loved combining this with my Microfreak when I had one. I sold mine because I was moving, needed funds, time lost with new job etc., not because of a fault with the pedal.
Screeching: I bet it’s artifacts produced by the algorithms somewhere in the same place of the spectrum, that when your effects in the chain combines them up, they are reinforced to the point that they are noticeable. The de-noise works well because of this.
Great bloody channel! Subscribed. Rarely do I have a "wow" react to anything IRL but you/this got just that. Thank you for the great content and thoroughness of your posts.
What's your full-screen meter running in the background there? Insight?
Easily one of the best synths ever made..
That's quite a claim.
I'd be curious for your opinion on the concept of the Hydrasynth Deluxe. Not so much the price as the features, as the msrp is a couple hundred bucks more than the real price you can order a brand new unit for if you know what established, major retailer to look at.
one of my favorite pedals, both on synth and guitar.
I have the this Zoom pedel {my first ever pedal delay} and for the price its a stunning bit of kit...A bit complex to get my head around at first but worth the learning...
That's crazy- I'm bouncing between synth tutorials and spotify- I was just listening to you-Amazing stuff- and jumped back to YT when this vid caught my eye🤘👽
Hello there,
Can you give an example of an effect chain that produces the hight pitch noise?
Used to own that Zoom-pedal, as great as it was i ended selling it. But this gave me an idea. As a guitar player, i do have line6 hx stomp which i havent tried with synth yet. Maybe i’ll try out to play my Korg minilogue xd through it, latest update gave us hx owners shimmer reverb and there is some legacy effects like synth type of engines. 6 blocks should take me away to interstellar journey.
Same, sold mine and yes great sounds but the menu diving became a bit of a hassle for me.
You're giving me lots of ideas getting this to hook up into my cooper fx Arcades. Tank you!
Wow you could make a whole movie soundtrack with this!
I bought and build a Zynthian (together with my 5 year old son) and use MOD UI as multi effects, there is a massive amount of possibilities as it is fully open source. A bit more expensive if you buy the whole kit, but you can run MODUI with a simple raspberry pi and a decent Audio HAT for 100 to 150 bucks and you are all set.
Zynthian has been on my to-do list for a while now, seems like an awesome project. Just need to find the time to actually do it 😅
I've been looking at the Zynthian for a while. Seems really cool and flexible!
@@eyeball226 it's awesome, I should make some vid's about it. I use it as a multifx unit, but it's a daw, sampler, synth etc....
The only synth I will never sell , so powerful
One of my vintage VA synths I'll never sell is my Novation Xiosynth 25. Once mastered, it can perform almost like a modular.
That just sounds gorgeous. I'll try the free edition but if the sounds in the paid editions are anything like those in this video, count me in.
The paid edition just contains more sounds! The free one is essentially a 'taster version' of the big pack.
@@VenusTheory Just testing the freebie and it is fantastic. Definitely getting the full version. Thank you.
Chimera looks awesome. Does the paid version just run as a regular VST? I might grab that.
No it's a library so pretty sure you only need to download Decent Sampler which is free :)
It's a library for the free Decent Sampler which is cross platform! Runs in VST, VST3, AU, and AAX. Also runs on Linux!
When I started getting into pedals for bass I started with the Zoom MS-60B. I don't really need it for bass anymore, I got an extensive pedal board, so now it lives next to my Korg Monologue. I will probably buy a Microfreak this summer and hook it up to that.
These pedals are far from perfect, but they do so much. I think the real magic in them is there being so many options that, even some aren't great, there's always another one and you can combine several of them for whole new sounds (sadly the MS-60B only allows up to four though).
The real weakness of these is the drive and distortion options though, the MS-70CDR doesn't even have any. I paired mine with a really cheap, but good overdrive that goes into distortion. I'd recommended others to do the same.
The MS70 can be 'hacked' to load the guitar amp/distortion/etc stuff from the MS50!
Haven't tried it myself yet, but might give it a spin sometime to see what happens.
Super hard to go wrong with this pedal IMO - certainly not the most 'wow' pedal ever but a hell of a lot of fun!
@@VenusTheory I heard there's a permanently mess it up with that so I've been reluctant, but it is tempting to put some of the fancier reverbs on there.
@@AndreasR86 I loaded all the zoom effects on to my 70cdr and it works great.
I've had an MS70CDR for years, and it's pretty good to be fair. I'd recommend it.
Especially the fact it has no direct indicator if your input peaks or not.
That, beside the terrible general downgrading of everything thats connected disqualifies it to every serious use. Live? No, not possible.
@@Sl3ipn1r I'm a guitarist, we're used to noise. Plenty of people still like and use it. Obviously they're are better options for studio use. It's a budget pedal. What do you expect? I haven't experienced signal loss from it. I belive the MS50 has signal loss.
I wish the Microfreak started a trend of high quality versatile synths at it's pricepoint. I can sit with that thing for hours and for the same $$ as 1.5-2 volcas it's pretty hard to compete with unless you're willing to jump into the $700-1000 range. If anyone has suggestions I'm all ears!
If you're looking for a polyphony, you can get a used ultranova for like 350$ and its also really impressive for its pricepoint. Controls are a bit less immediate than a microfreak but way more depth to the synth
Well, yes and no. I call the Freak the Stephen Hawking of synths. Great brain, but the chassis... The physical instrument is clearly made from the cheapest possible components. On mine the headphone jack went in the first 6 months. And it's an import, so not worth sending back.
Still. It's one of very few synths that I would replace on the same day when it goes completely bust.
Behringer
the roland boutique synths are pretty cool!
it's one of my favourite guitar pedals. bought it cheap as fuck many years ago. the way you've used it here is absolutely amazing. If i had half the talent you had I would be half as talented as you. I think that's a compliment?
I've had one of these for a couple of years and it's a great swiss army knife of a pedal.
Great video thank you, every now and then I get a lack of inspiration and don't switch anything on for about a week and I watch a video like this and I'm all Fired Up again 🎧🎹🎹💥
A cheap pedal I would like to see you try is the EHX Analogizer. It's cheap and I got it to see if I could make my synths sound more interesting in a not so wild way. I'm trying to find something that doesn't rely on fancy reverbs, pitch shifting and crazy modulation to get cool sounds. I'm not sure if that's possible though.
12:18 Particle Reverb with choir or strings are the best 🙂
I cant get this synth to sound like that, love it!!
Thank you for this amazing video! I loooove your glasses btw - could you tell me the brand and model, please?
chimera reminds me of the native instruments plugins such as ethereal earth
Have you tried a Hotone Xtomp?? It’s fun and nice addition that is extremely flexible.
What synth brand and model is this, I am thinking of buying one for my self
Sounds at 11:50 🔥 Johann Johansson vibes then Vangelis at 12:20 👍🏻
This is a great pedal for price . I love mine . I actually use it with my sax and get some great sounds
So, does chimera run directly inside my DAW? Thanks.
What an amazing voice this guy have. We need him as a voice actor 😊
these two and/or a microcosm in the mix is grrrreat
MS70CDR is an absolute win for the price