Understanding Islam, Javed Ghamidi, Shariah and the Establishment - Muhammad Hassan Ilyas -
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- Опубліковано 6 чер 2024
- Muhammad Hassan Ilyas, Director of Research at Ghamidi Center, USA, comes on The Pakistan Experience, to discuss the wrong notions of Islam made popular by UA-camrs in Pakistan.
On this episode, we discuss, how to understand Islam, Multiplicity of Opinions in the Islamic tradition, TLP, The role of the Establishment, Shariah, Women in Islam, Slavery and more.
Muhammad Hassan Ilyas is a young passionate theologian, researcher and expert in ancient Arabic language and literature, greatly inspired by the famous Islamic scholar Javed Ahmed Ghamidi. He is a close associate and son in law of Javed Ahmed Ghamidi and is part of his ground breaking research project on the historical record of the sayings of the Prophet of Islam, Muhammad (P.B.U.H), with an aim to rid the prevailing Islamic ideology of common misconceptions in order to counter religious extremism.
He is a young, passionate researcher and educationist. Director of Research at Ghamidi Center USA.
He has been actively engaged in initiatives for educational reform since his formative years with Organisation for Research and Education (2009-2012). Later, in his early adulthood he went on to deliver special lectures on ancient Arabic language and literature to PhD and Master students of International Islamic University, Islamabad (2011-2012).
He was the research head of the research department of Al-Mawrid, an Institute for Islamic Research and Education. More than a dozen PhD and Masters students working on theology have worked under his guidance during their dissertation. He was also a pioneer teacher and curriculum developer for Al-Mawrid’s education program for children and adolescents in the United States.
He completed his bachelors at Medina International Islamic University, Malaysia, and is currently enrolled in University Technology Mara, Shah Alam in Masters of Research working on his groundbreaking project on Oaths as a literary device in the Qur’an. Alongside, he is working as a personal research and literary assistant of Javed Ahmed Ghamidi representing his works in academic circles and engaging in public meets to propagate and educate the public on his views.
He is invited all over the world for lectures on theology, jurisprudence and his expertise on Ghamidi school of thought. He has been making television appearances in programs on social and legal implications of the prevailing Islamic thought in Islam. His works are frequently cited in academic papers and has been interviewed by many PhD scholars for his expertise in theology and particularly in Ghamidi school of thought.
At this young age he has achieved many accolades including a gold medal at an international academic conference for his model research work on Oaths as a literary device in the Qur’an, and several awards for his academic articles and public speaking achievements from Medina International University, Malaysia.
In future, he plans to further his research work on theology, and ancient Arabic language and literature, he plans to set up an institute for reform in religious education and advanced learning in Ghamidi school of thought. He further wants to design ventures for massive outreach of Ghamidi school of thought to masses with an aim for reconstruction of religious thought of the common Muslims.
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Chapters:
0:00 Introduction
1:30 How to understand Islam
6:19 Multiplicity of opinions in Islam and Translation differences
19:00 Understanding Islam in context and use of Islam in Pakistan in politics
23:00 TLP and the Establishment using religion for violence
29:40 Javed Ghamdi on Pervez Musharaf and Zia-ul-Haq
36:00 Are laws in Pakistan Islamic?
47:00 Can Shariah Law be applied in Pakistan?
49:44 Women in Islam
52:34 Do men have 'Fazeelat' over women?
59:14 Concubines and Slavery
1:04:00 Domestic Violence
1:07:20 on Hazrat Aisha (RA)'s age
1:11:25 Conclusion - Розваги
Shehzad never fails to deliver, even though he is not pregnant.
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I'm Shahzad and I approve this message.
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Ghas Me Jis Tarah Saanp Chhip Jata Hai. Waise Hi Ye Liberals Hain.
I'm a proud Christian and being a Qaafir (according to Islam) I enjoyed this interview and actually like the guest for his brash attitude. I have many disagreements but they're overshadowed by agreements. May God bless all with wisdom and sanity ✝️🌹🙏
No dear..being a christian you are "people of book" and not far away from the same real Message brought by all the Prophets including Prophet Essa and Prophet Muhammad.
Kafirs are those who came across the right presentation of faith and despite the truth was clear to them yet they reject it out of their haightiness and stubbornness.
All the prophets were raised by the same God with the same Message and Prophet Muhammad being the last and universal messenger ONLY purified and perfected the same original message.
Life is a test from God and we are tested in numerous ways. As seekers of truth we should continue our journey and arrive at an honest conclusion before our test is over and we depart this world.
The life test can be undersood by the survival series Man vs wild. You are airdropped to a remote island or location where you have to survive against all odds and challenges while following the dos and donts code and then you are returned and judged if you qualify to enter the world called Paradise or disqualified and scrapped in the world called hell.
If we want to learn about the Islamic faith we should learn it from the Quran.
You belief in Jesus lets explore and begin the journey from the conversation between Allah and Jesus mentioned in Chapter The Table of the Quran.
Its only the first step..
Quran never Calls christians qaafir but ahel e kitab people of the book
@@infinto1 I am proud hindu, proud of my land, my people, my forefathers, my civilization and culture. I will never be a slave to the whiteman or the arab or any other foreigner or to their religion, or culture or language.
@@infinto1 I won't contest to Quran as I respect it like I respect other faith & their holy books. I already made my case. God bless you 🙏
@@cyb-msee this is the mistake. Islam is not Arab religion. When prophet started preaching Islam, Arabs said the same thing. Aran said we can't leave path of our fathers & forefathers.
This is a more fundamental question than question of history or culture or pride.
We all are in this Universe which we know we did not created. We don't know where does we come from, what is our real purpose & last but not the least 2 questions?
1- Who created us & why?
2- Is the death our end or we transcend?
3- If there is life beyond death what will be it? And does our this world has an impact on it?
In short, Islam is about perfecting your this world & hereafter.
Shukar h Kisi n himmat krke ghamidi sahab k student hassan ilyas ko invite kiya taky asal fikr e ghamidi samne aye.
Thanks alot.
We just hope k nadir na invite kr ly 🙏🏼
@@salmanafzal4685 wo kaha ese intellectual logo ko invite krega uske standards mufti Tariq masood Waly h😂😂
Mooroo and off the school also invited him. Both are worth watching.
Such clarity of thought this gentleman has , its commendable. Also Shahzad , great homework and asked all the right questions. I love it.
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What a gem! May this light of ilm and rationale and the will to study deen continue like this. I have found my way to the right path because of such people. The more you study the religion you are mesmerized with the greatness of God. These maulanas do not know a bit of such a feeling.
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Islam cannot live and let live . That is problem
Allah hi bulla hain
It's been over 1500 years, and millions of people study the religion but the right Islam is not coming.
@@spartantroy3920😂 MashaOm
Oh my god! Loved the whole podcast so much!
Kudos to shahzad for touching almost all the significant topics.
Love how the guest was extremely welcoming to the critical questions and even at the end said that whoever disagrees, he’s up for a discussion.
May Allah tala bless him and everyone who’s using their intellectual capacity to really know what Quran has said and talking about it the way it should be.
May Allah guide us all!
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kudos means kodu means bonna u r nibbi
Watched whole podcast....simply amazing but very short..... we need part 2 .... please try to invite ghamdi sahab ❤❤
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We need a three-hour podcast, Shahzad Bahi. Society sorely needs Ghamdi sahib and Hassan ilyas sahib, so please invite them again.
Yes
islam is a factory of making terrorist it gives us worlds top top 10 or even top 20 terrorist organisation not a single terrotist organization is from christian,hindu,jews,budh
You can have more than 3 hours of his lectures brother. Hassan Shb has been on many podcasts and fortunately on different topics. Must listen.
wow.. this was exceptional.. I feel blessed to have found teachers like Ghamidi sahab and others during my early developmental years. We were always encouraged to read, understand and learn from quran on our own. Questions and curiosity was always encouraged and this is the reason why Hassan is able to talk with such clarity.
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Considering that you consider Javed Ghamidi as your teacher, I have a question for you, Ghamidi says that YAZEED was not directly involved in Imam Hussain's Murder. What are your views on this?
@@almemon3691 I have no views about that because I dont know.
@@fahadjawaid3569 I am shocked at your reply on two levels.
First Level, it has astonished me that after being encouraged to read and learn you do not know the killer of the grandson of the MAN who brought this religion to us?
Second Level, your reply shows the level of importance Ghamidi attaches to this issue. It shows that he hasn't discussed this issue frequently with his followers, otherwise you would have known about it.
The fact that you are totally oblivious of this issue leads me to question your learning as well as his teaching. Now I understand why people vehemently criticize Ghamidi.
@@msh-l33t When IBLEES refused to bow down to ADAM, his ENTIRE REPERTOIRE of worship was destroyed because of just one refusal
This is one of the best podcast on your channel Shehzad. Keep it up please. Every topic that you covered with Hassan Ilyas answer was very rational and eye opening. Please invite him in again. Thank you
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Pakistan me rah ke sach Bolna bahut Muslim Hai Jo koi Koshish kare unko salam
Mash-Allah. Presenting Islam in its pristine purity. Hope to see Javed Ghamidi in your podcast one day
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Can someone paste the reference to this speech? Where has this been published?
Much thanks!
The search for "right" Islam continues...................
Hahahaha.
Yes, just like the search for the right philosophy continues. There's no topic in existence on which there's no further discourse.
Participating in intellectual discussions about any topic is a positive.
There is a difference.
The search for the right philosophy is often accompanied by criticism and many times discarding of existing philosophy and the philosophers who put forward the policy. In the case of Islam, the belief of believers that the Quran is entirely and eternally true and that the morals by which Prophet Mohammad lived his life are to be followed by everyone forever; makes it almost impossible for genuine search in the direction. Most muslim critics of Islam (if there are) tend to barely justify Quran and Mohammad in one way or the other, often by the old excuse of contextualization and interpretation.. There is no quest to improve the Quran and discard outdated verses or the life principle by which Mohammad lived.
Did you find your real bhagvan, Pajeet?
14000 Saal Aur Lagenge😂😂😂😂😂
اللّٰہ پاک حسن الیاس صاحب کو مزید خیر وبرکت دے
Thank you for being bold enough and arranging this podcast! It must have taken a lot of guts for this. Thank you and may Allah bless you for your efforts! Absolutely loved this episode!
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He is not bold enough, he still didnt clear why Quran mentions Women
1. Are half brained.
2. Field for men
3. Can be married even the baby is 1 day old and can be consummated as soon as she is blossomed. No age limit for man
4. Women slaves are a sex toy for men, and can be sold to other to become sex toy.
Woman defending Islam is chicken defending KFC.
Please read Quran with translation and understand. If any of the above I told is wrong, I can change my opinion On islam.
Troll karnay say pehley dekh toh lo
Thats the whole point . Just to talk about your religion that you practice you need courage . And then you say your religion is peaceful . Sounds fishy 🤫
Asking to read the Quran and Hadiths in translated form is not trolling. Have some tolerance towards critic. Whatever I presented in my earlier comment which you deleted are the ones taken from Quran and Hadiths. Please please read Quran and Hadiths by yourself. Don't rely on stupid Mullas. They will make you bewakuf by telling lies. They will earn huge money for telling lies.
"Merciless criticism and independent thinking are the necessary traits of revolutionary thinking" - Bhagat Singh
The above statement applies to everything on earth
Can you invite any ex-muslim? Maybe online, so that people get to know the other side too!?
They fears those ex Muslims, they will avoid at any cost.
-Without lie Islam die-
invite harris sultan
That will be his last episode..
I endorse you, also invite ex Hindu, ex other religions people.
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Oh yeah absolutely!
Thanks ❤. ILyas bhai k podcast ka bht intezaar tha
Loved loved loved istening to him! So eloquent and rational in his speech and arguments - thank you for this absolute masterclass of a podcast, Shahzad!
There's so much to learn not only from his knowledge but how he presents his arguments as well!
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This person's talk is coming from multiple levels of understanding of multiple aspects of our society and its relationship with theology.
I've come to respect him after listening to him. I respect Ghamdi Sahab too.
Disagreements pose no threat to those who have the courage to rise above the shallowness of mere survival.
May Allah SWT guide our society in this direction.
We need part 2 shehzad bhai .....
And please please also invite ghamdi sahab
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@@ThePakistanExperience Islam is a factory of making terrorist it gives us worlds top top 10 or even top 20 terrorist organisation not a single terrotist organization is from christian,hindu,jews,budh
Right now we need this Let us present Reconstructed Religious Thought of Islam.
Informative discassation.
You mean you want Islam that fits with modern life, which means your children and grandchildren will Islam to declare fornication, live-in-relationships, LGBTQ to be halaal. That is how this 'reform' stuff works.
"Ghamdiyat"- True interpretation of Islam ❌
"Ghamdiyat" - A last stop before Atheism.✅
Before Ex muslim
@@multitude1 Yup, before being Ex-Muslim.
@@multitude1 And sufiyat , barelvi , shiat, salafiyat is all shirk
@@agentleworld6374 Suni and Shias are mushrik remember then
He made a jilebi on slavery again. Show one surah or hadis that says 'from now, islam bans slavery and no-one can make any slaves'
علمی و فکری اور اخلاق بھرپور پوڈکاسٹ ۔ رب کریم استاذ محترم غامدی صاحب اور الیاس حسن صاحب کے علم و فکر میں مزید اضافہ عطا فرماۓ
26:34 Hats off to Hassan bhai's courage. Allah Talah inki hifazat frmyn ❤
What a gem. Shahzad Bhai please have the second round of zoom interview as u mention in the podcast. Thx for inviting Hassan Alyaas
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Though I am not a religious person, But I enjoyed listening him.. Wonderful Talk! ❤
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Yeah you became bewakuf again by his sweet words, no references. Ask him references and go through the by yourself, then you will understand. Do not believe any of these Mulla Moulvi. They will earn money for telling lies.
Read things yourself or check the arguments of the other side, then make a decision. A good judge will listen to all arguments before giving a verdict.
@@PraneethM-or6jj😅😅😅 comedy ki bhi hadd hoti hain
@@PraneethM-or6jj sahi baat... Ek bhi reference nahi dia janaab nein 🤣
@@PraneethM-or6jjwanna Debate lindu?
شُکر اُس رَب کا کہ جس نے مُجھ ناچیز کو استادِ محترم غامدی صاحب جیسی عظیم نعمت سے نوازا! 😍 💕
1) Jaranwala Incident - On August 16,2023 , twenty six Christian churches in jaranwala , Punjab, Pakistan were burnt down by acts of arson.
Can anyone answer please what is the Pakistan government taking action above mentioned incident.
2) Arabic word incident -
Women in Pakistan was almost lynched . Arabic word Halwa which means beautiful
3) Sialkot incident - 3 December 2021
A Srilanka man was murdered on the allegations of blasphemy by the mob.
What action took the government of Pakistan
4) Asia Bibi Blasphemy case
Unfortunately, Pakistan's government and state is failed we have no islamic system and we need to change it. Remember the incidents you mentioned Islam didn't guide us to do that. They are just some animals who don't even know what is deen.
Failure of state and wrong laws.
Very beautiful program, may Allah bless both scholars for this openness.
Much anticipated discussion, ❤
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Well Ghamdi's presence always overshadowed his individual intellect but my God! he is a gem too. Kudos to Shehzad for good work.
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What's the use of doing this now? Like really, the awaam is so r@dicalized that after this podcast, they'll say , "batao ki iski garden udaya yaa nhi"😅
Most awaited
It's pure BS. It's as fake as mahamad
Only false hood
Hassan Ilyas absorbed too much knowledge in such a young age Ma Sha Allah.
HASSAN SAHABA KA AISE PROGRAMS MEIN ANA MUCH NEEDED ACT HAI , APPRECIATED 🎉🎉
Fear of Islam is not called Islamophobia it's called common sense 😊
No one brought up Islamophobia.
You're fighting against arguments no one made here. Baqi bakhts talking about common sense is hilarious.
Seeing India today, if anyone should fear anything its the RSS ideology.
No one brought up Islamophobia.
You're fighting against ghosts buddy. Baqi bakhts talking about common sense is hilarious.
@@waleedabbas4996Ignore him brother.Such mischievous people do not wish well for anyone.
@@waleedabbas4996 do you want refrence from your books.. hatred, violence and abusing other religions by your books..do you want refrence..this is not Islamophobia..this is what Islam teach..only fools who didn't read anything they just defend this cult in the name of secularism this and that..but on their side no thing like secularism,every religion is equal, humanity...
Shehzad bhai do invite ghamdi sahib. Blessed to have people like you who bring and talk some sense to the people
He can't travel to Pakistan now.
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shahzad bhai's guts to ask these questions humbly and hassan sb answers with bravery and rationality, both have given their best. Loved this podcast. This is what we need rn, thanks to both of you ❤
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I am so grateful that your voice exists amongst all this chaos, hatred, populism
Shahzad Bhai you never disappoint us.. keep bringing people like Hasan Bhai on your show.. love you ❤❤❤
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Pakistanis are living in real Islamic state😊. True face of islam
Sanghis ka bas aik hi kaam hai beghair dekhay comment thokna
Nope. Still Afghanistan is champion
I wish that was right. But no we are failed version of islam. Nothing look islamic
@@trilokyamohanchakra6351 big daddy 🤣
@@trilokyamohanchakra6351 How close IS state is?
What a podcast ❤ Well done Shehzad. Insightful questions, balanced approach and very educational. Thank you. Jazak Allah
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kya baat ki hai Muhammad Hassan Ilyas sahab hatsoff love from india
Love hogaya ❤ thanks shehzad for the gem
Sahil adeem ko koi sunwaye ye podcast , ye hoti hai class , ye hota hai logic rationale ,
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Saahil Adeem AALIM Naheen hai...yeh AALIM hain proper
Salam bro, as Messenger of Allah PBUH sent towards all mankind so all humans are subjected to Qanoon e itmam e huj'aat (as derived and described by Ghamidi Sahab)
Both rewards and punishments too)
Or else this Qanoon e itmam e huj'aat is false
Or else there is another way to look at it beyond Qanoon e itmam e Hujaat
Think about it as We all are seeking Truth.
He is telling what Islam is, what I always believed but have been too scared to say it loud. I feel a sense of belonging. Thank you!
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Regarding the point at 1:03:41, was not interest immediately condemned and stopped at the time of the Prophet? If so, then that deflates the gradual approach argument. If not, what was the practical attitude adopted towards interest (genuinely asking)?
And even alcohol and idol worshipping was immediately banned but not $_*xs|avery????
Why....
This is masterpiece I was deeply touched by his wisdom and knowledge. I wish such great minds could be in their country and advocate the truth..
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Thank God, if real Islam is taught in Pakistan, situation of the world become more in danger.
Uneducated religious person is dangerous despite the religion and i firmly believe that that children must be first taught about the realities of the world science and biology and then religion
No one will accept pid$$lam
What happens when biology(Evolution), science etc contradict Islam?
@@chetan_naik can be solved easily with logical proves and experiment.
i agree with you. According to ghamidi sb there are three types of education
1. School education
2. Religious or ekhlaqi edu
3. Skills based education
All should be provided according to the proper age of understanding (serial wise)
Does religious education include teachings of religions other than Islam?
Masha Allah what a great interview !
Sir, maza aagya. Eagerly waiting for the zoom thing. Hope it happens.
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بڑا انتظار کروایا ❤
Worth the wait
I am proud to be Hindu 🚩❤️
Jazakallah!
Excellent, could not have been better.
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This is sunnat
Sahih al-Bukhari 6922
Narrated `Ikrima:
Some Zanadiqa (atheists) were brought to `Ali and he burnt them. The news of this event, reached Ibn `Abbas who said, "If I had been in his place, I would not have burnt them, as Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) forbade it, saying, 'Do not punish anybody with Allah's punishment (fire).' I would have killed them according to the statement of Allah's Messenger (ﷺ), 'Whoever changed his Islamic religion, then kill him.'"
Thankyou so much shezhad we need people like you to make sure we have this conversation ✨
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Love ur podcast shehzad bhai as always...❤❤keep going.
Abraham Lincoln once said you can fool some of the people all the time and all the people some of the times but you can't fool all the people all the times. Well he certainly underestimated the power of religious jingoism in the sub-continent.
Both are Gem 💎
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Great job Shehzad, waiting so long for this Individual, May Allah keep you safe & bring him Safe back to Dallas
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Great discussion Shehzad. Thanks for bringing up my question, unless you were already planning to ask him about marriage is a relationship and not a company. Not convinced with his answer but the point is to have a healthy debate on these topics. Well done.
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Waiting for Engineer's comment starting with Mashallah...
Same 😅
MashaAllah truth lovers ko salam 😭
God save Islam from Pakistan.
Say god save pakistan from islam.
What are the various books that the he mentioned to read in the introduction section?
there you go: ua-cam.com/video/J5WTFUzeqgM/v-deo.html (intro to all major books)
for more details on these you can refer ot the brilliant lecture series here:
Sufism: ua-cam.com/video/gJFZeDQcliU/v-deo.html (very highly recommended)
Imam Abu Hanifa: ua-cam.com/video/aR90IFNtT4c/v-deo.html
Maliki Fiqh: ua-cam.com/video/g_MbLzaYyEM/v-deo.htmlsi=W3ZFcHUJPD14UEew
Shafi fiqh: ua-cam.com/video/-4x-A1Tt9lw/v-deo.htmlsi=QcA8x6it0P7Gu3Y_
hanbli fiqh: ua-cam.com/video/AopO0I5Mapg/v-deo.htmlsi=rWvni12IVHZTcfVD
thank you Shehzad for inviting him on your podcast it was really one of the best podcasts on Deen. more power to him
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Thank God some gave a sensible answer about the marriage of hazrat Aisha RA.
He has give you sugar coated poison and you happily tasted and swallowed.
Ghanta
Strange that the "one true religion" that is supposed to be the clear and final word of God, But somehow no one is able to figure out which is the "True" Islam.
That's what happen when you sell religion in public..........
Only1 parseee
2types Hinduism vs hindutva
10 types - secular islamz ,liberal islamz,modern islam, fundamentalists wala islam, radical islam, extremist Islam....etc
@@nikhildeshmukh6221you really thinks Hinduism is better 🤡 every religion spread hate...
@@ElPsyAgentnot it’s not. But almost all religions are adopting to modern methods. The least adapting is the issue.
@@ElPsyAgent a religion which allows to convert or become atheist is still better than all others.....
Salam bro, the KEY to puzzle is in the perspective that religion is TRUE but it is QUITE strict and everyone is trying to make a lenient version to satisfy it's own lower self esteem
Excellent! Nicely done, may Allah reward you all for speaking the truth. Tabdeeli aa nahi rahi…Tabdeeli aa gayee hai !!!
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Most awaited podcast!
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I am a Pakistani female who has been following India on a daily basis for the last 2-3 years. I have understood the mentality of Hindutvaadis INSIDE OUT, and of course reading and understanding Quran has also helped me decode the "Hindutvaadi FITNA". As usual these Hindutvaadis are APLENTY in this comment section too, raising MOST STUPID, Baseless "Objections". I just want Pakistani Muslim listeners of this Podcast to be AWARE of these Hindutvaadis. Either IGNORE them, or deal with them as they DESERVE. Thanks!!
There is plenty of hate for Hindus on internet, there is plenty of hate for muslims.
Common working humans don't have time for this.
U r right .. u should only listen to radical clerics. Dont listen anyone else. STSJ
@@bhavinsampat590definitely not interested in listening to Hindutvaadi Satans....True Hindus believing in ONE ISHWAR are most welcome, who respectfully put forward their sensible viewpoint, or show genuine curiosity about Islam and/ or Muslims.
Madam your half mad as per your relegion
@@Adita991Sir you are TOTALLY Mad as per your religion
You should invite sahil adeem and this respected man in a debate
Sahil Adeem only has stunts, his attitude is not at all that of a teacher.
Quranwala ko invite karo...
Exmuslim sahil also
@28:35 Received a like just for that. For naming and speaking the truth to power in Pakistan.
Exellent podcast conducted by both.🥰
I felt disappointed when Ghamidi Sir criticized the construction of the Temple in Abu Dhabi. Moreover, he criticized the living of Non-Muslims in UAE too. I didn't expect this mindset from him. Why do Muslims cry to build a Mosque on Christian land??? When Non-Muslim leaders refuse the construction of Mosques, then Muslims call them islamophobia.
Spot on analysis
Yes....
Even Zakir Naik criticized these things.....
The reason he give is when you know other religions are false and ours is true then why building church or temple in islamic country.
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If that is the case why build Mosques in non Islamic countries? Isn't the same logic applicable here?
It’s not prohibited to build temples churches etc in Muslim lands. But prohibited in the Arabian peninsula.
It’s like one can build a mosque in Rome but not in Vatican City.
The boundaries for the “Muslims Vatican” were marked by the Prophet pbuh. This is the Arabian peninsula.
Therefore Muslim armies did not touch the churches in Jerusalem and Egypt but destroyed all places of worship of other religions inside the peninsula
You analysed as great human.
Much needed Podcast
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What a brilliant conversation!
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Hats off Shehzad bhai. Eid Mubarak to you!!
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Mr Shehzad please invite Qaiser Ahmed Raja if you are willing to learn about radical islam and semantic aspects of islam as a system.
No, Raja will start bullying him as well
@@Outofthisworld794why not lgbtq ke supporter ko sun le hum aur raja ko nai bully ka bacha
Well , in the era of internet no one can hide the hypocrisy , lies and deception of....😂😂😂
Exactly, tomorrow many Muslim scholars will go live on fb UA-cam to "debunk" his idea of secular Islam.............it's like I'm Hindu ,and talking all good things about Hinduism but hindus especially from cow belt jahil Hindi states are spreading hatred in social media against muslims.😉
....Hindutva
@@lanoklom9697 Bhai jahil log hain ye. Koi substance nai hain in ke paas.
Look at the sheer amount of beliefs bakhts hold that are in clear contradiction of the scientific consensus
@@lanoklom9697yaaa, more than 90 percent terrorist organization is of hindutv ideology
Great talk, crisp analysis and to the point agenda. Great work Hassan and Shehzad. Keep raising awareness.
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Thank you for this podcast❤️
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Another mullah , another peaceful Islam version
We are waiting for forever for right version of Islam to stand up
not wait... enjoy mythology and discriminate against people to the levels of untouchability based on virtue of their birth.
This is the right one, and this was from the beginning, what some other narrative prevalent are the exception, from the day one Islam is the same what is explained by Ghamidi sb, listen to more of his videos on utube.
The RIGHT VERSION is presented (with proper reference from kuran hadees) from #exmuslims like adam seeker, exmuslim sahil, harris sultan, galib kamal, sachwala ji, zafar heretic, and thousands of others on youtube today and crores of #exmuslims in india and many more in Turkey, Iran, Indonesia , Malaysia, China ...
@@khansherani Exceptional ! 😂😂😂😂
@@khansherani then why Ghamdi had to run away from Pakistan and live in a Kafir/Christian country ??
Who is saccha musalman Afghanistan or Pakistan ?
Truth DOESN'T depend on in which country one is born
Nepal or India
Afghanistan 💯
China
Wallah new topics every single time. You never fail to disappoint. Kudos to you!!
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Who struggled with the Urdu (but still appreciated it 😃)
Then which Islamic nation follows right islam?
Bawkee staan
Baajee staan
I guess the podcast was too heavy on your little brain.
Unable to answer simple question makes you a little brain,
I repeat which country follows right islam?
The difference in opinions amongst scholars of any and every religion betrays the very fact that all religions are man made and designed by the founders based on their limited understanding of their time and the world around them.
27:29 very brave of you two to be saying this i am touched and so impressed by this but also khuda hifz o aman me rakhey i felt the statements in my bones
also very touched by the empathy this scholar holds, i hope i get to see more of them perhaps a recurring guest?
If at all there is something called right Islam then please dare publish a book of right interpretations once and for all. These conversations are just meaningless defence of barbarism Islam is since its early days.
Ghamidi has published a bunch of books doing exactly that
@@ThePakistanExperienceDoes anybody reads his books or watch him in the subcontinents except for few educated ones who form much less than a quarter of Muslims.
I hope you are not andhbhakt from cow belt jahil Hindi state .... because they like islam to be exposed but hides manusmriti.
@@AnkitSingh-ok8okbuddy he can only publish books and make lectures.... What else do you think a scholar can do?
And Ghamdi had to run away from Pakistan???😂😂😂😂
Great discussion... Respect... Very informative.. Islaam is a good religion and have some good reasons that were necessity of time. But still have valid points. World need this type of scholars. Salute from India.
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Wow! What an amazing podcast! Must protect Shahzad at all cost. Thank you for doing this.
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Because of Islamic republic country
Ulemas must do role of captain and educate people from grassroots level. Spread scientific thoughts(1400 hundred old all thaughts not relevant today)
There are some who are attracting youth and but beware of some neo Islamic cultists who enormously use science (fiction) and fantasy elements to entice educated yet dumb youth of Pakistan. A Pakistani here.
Ghamidi sahb is one of the best scholars on Islam. Respect and appreciation for both of you for this podcast it was such a treat to watch. Afterall somewhere sense is prevailing this is what Islam is all about agree to this person 💯 on the religion
Amazing as expected. Thank you Sir Shahzad for bringing up the best guests.
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Islam ki private limited company… best comment ever 😂😂😂
Afsoos k ap ny kuch bh ni seekha hoga is podcast sy
I think its better to look at Quranic ideas as Arabian philosophy, put forward by Prophet Mohammad. Every philosopher has different means of propagating his philosophy, Mohammad chose proxying it as word of God to make people believe in it. Which is fine to be honest anf it worked for a long time. I think Muslims shall began searching for right philosophy, taking Quran as the base, taking what suits the current time and discarding what is outdated.
The search for the right philosophy is often accompanied by criticism and many times discarding of existing philosophy and the philosophers who put forward the policy. In the case of Islam, the belief of believers that the Quran is entirely and eternally true and that the morals by which Prophet Mohammad lived his life are to be followed by everyone forever; makes it almost impossible for genuine search in the right direction. Most muslim critics of Islam (if there are) tend to barely justify Quran and Mohammad in one way or the other, often by the old excuse of contextualization and interpretation.. There is no quest to improve the Quran and discard outdated verses or the life principle by which Mohammad lived.
Really who decided that these verses are outdated. When you say the Quran needs to be modified you are basically saying you want Muslims to be just like you. Even if you I take your claim at face value that Islam is a philosophy, then Islam is an independent philosophy that does not need to be updated as you say to western values. It is a distinct philosophy of its own. Furthermore often times I find people like you who believe the Quran should be updated haven't even read the Quran themselves and only have second hand knowledge of specific verses from sources that are openly anti Islam.
@@WashainNotkani Why it cannot be updated? Like other philosophies are scrutinised over time, and modified/updated/discarded in the light of new consciousness and times? All philosophies, be it religious, political or otherwise, have gone through this process. The point is this looks impossible if you keep believing it's the word of God. The moment one looks at it as a word of an Arabian man, one can bring objectivity into the process.
@@ObjeactiveCricLoverthe question isn’t why it can’t be updated the question is why should it be updated. What intrinsic value is that update bringing? What problem is that update fixing? Does the adherent of that philosophy even perceives it to be a problem? Just because something isn’t westernised it should be updated? What has being an Arab go to do with anything? If Islam came from UK then would have been modern and would not need an update?
@@WashainNotkani It needs to be updated because at several places the values preached are unarguably outdated (At several places, they are genuinely not outdated and hence do not require an update there). They could not stand the test of the times. In terms of value, I think the biggest value it would bring will be for the Islam itself. It will prolong its life by keeping it up with the times. Its not about Arab, even if it came from the UK and it got outdated, it would still be required for an update. A classical example is communism, a political-economical philosophy which generated in the west but by and large failed to deliver the results and thus being increasingly modified/updated by its adherents themselves.
@@ObjeactiveCricLoverChristianity is being updated because it was thought to be outdated. Christianity is on the decline and fast. However Islam is growing day by day in numbers. If it is so outdated why are people adopting it. The greatest number of conversation to any religion is Islam and that to in the west which supposedly is the most advanced in our present times. However in your principal I can agree with you that if philosophies are updated maybe they will stand the test of time. However when it comes to Islam it is already standing the test of time. As for adapting, Islam has adapted to the local cultures and people that is why there are so many Muslim majority countries. It is yet to be seen that does your hypothesis hold water that if Islam does not adapt it will fizzle out. So far it is doing much better than most of its competitors.
One of the best podcasts on the channel definitely
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I can't believe I'm listening to this guy for the first time.
Without Lies Islam Dies
Without cast Hinduism lost
Without lust, islam is just dust.
teach atheism it will stop radicalization atleast
Like mao and stalin? 😂
better than terrorism@@muhammadowais1011
@@muhammadowais1011actually islaam has caused more death and destruction than any ideology including communism and stuff.
And the resistance to reform in islam will cause more death, right now it's just that Muslim r not in power
Best idea
@@muhammadowais1011 in reality islam as an ideology has killed more also the resistance to reform makes it a real threat.
It's just that Muslim lag behind in the power of science otherwise u would have seen major genocides.
Even without science they have done so many.
JAZAKALLAH Khair ,,,