If I Could Choose Only One Work By...IVES

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  • Опубліковано 5 лип 2024
  • It Would Have To Be...Piano Sonata No. 2 "Concord"
    One of the most extraordinary creations in the piano literature, and arguably a more remarkable achievement (given its medium) than Ives' visionary orchestral works.
    The List So Far...
    1. Ravel: Ma Mère l’Oye (Mother Goose Ballet)
    2. Bruckner: Symphony No. 7
    3. Schubert: String Quintet in C major
    4. Shostakovich: Symphony No. 4
    5. Mahler: Symphony No. 2 “Resurrection”
    6. Tchaikovsky: The Nutcracker
    7. Debussy: Preludes for Piano (Books 1 & 2)
    8: Handel: Saul
    9. Mozart: Le Nozze di Figaro
    10. Brahms: String Sextet No. 2 in G major
    11. Vaughan Williams: Job
    12. Bach: Goldberg Variations
    13. R. Strauss: Four Last Songs
    14. Berlioz: The Damnation of Faust
    15. Haydn: “Paris” Symphonies (Nos. 82-87)
    16. Wagner: Der Ring des Nibelungen
    17. Beethoven: String Quartet No. 14 in C-sharp minor
    18. Mendelssohn: Violin Concerto in E minor
    19. Chopin: Preludes
    20. Verdi: Rigoletto
    21. Roussel: Symphony No. 2
    22. Copland: Appalachian Spring (complete original ballet)
    23. Grieg: Peer Gynt Suites Nos. 1 and 2
    24. Bartók: Sonata for Two Pianos and Percussion
    25. Prokofiev: Piano Concerto No. 2
    26. Rimsky-Korsakov: Opera Suites (Scottish National Orchestra/Järvi) Chandos
    27. Schoenberg: Pierrot Lunaire
    28. Smetana: Ma Vlást
    29. Falla: Nights in the Gardens of Spain
    30. Bizet: Carmen
    31. Elgar: In the South
    32. Sullivan: The Mikado
    33. Dvořák: Symphony No. 8; Cello Concerto (Piatigorsky/Munch/Boston Symphony) RCA
    34. Liszt: Hungarian Rhapsodies
    35. Monteverdi: Orfeo
    36. Scarlatti: Sonatas
    37. Schumann: Fantasie in C, Op. 17
    38. Berg: Wozzeck
    39. Hermann: Psycho (film score)
    40. Rachmaninoff: Rhapsody on the Theme of Paganini
    41. Purcell: Dido and Aeneas
    42. Holst: Suites for Military Band
    43. Stravinsky: Oedipus Rex
    44. Respighi: Three Botticelli Pictures
    45. Sibelius: Symphony No. 5; Pohjola’s Daughter (Bernstein, New York Philharmonic) Sony
    46. Britten: The Turn of the Screw
    47. Borodin: String Quartet No. 2
    48. Janácek: The Cunning Little Vixen
    49. Korngold: Violin Concerto
    50. Tallis: Spem in Alium
    51. Nielsen: Symphony No. 5
    52. Barber: Knoxville: Summer of 1915
    53. Hindemith: Symphony in E-flat
    54. Mussorgsky: Boris Godunov
    55. Franck: Violin Sonata
    56. Rossini: La gazza ladra (The Thieving Magpie)
    57. Saint-Saëns: Piano Concerto No. 5 “Egyptian”
    58. Weill: The Seven Deadly Sins
    59. Pergolesi: Stabat Mater
    60. Albeniz: Iberia
    61. Bernstein: Mass
    62. Schreker: Chamber Symphony
    63. Walton: Variations on a Theme by Hindemith
    64. Dukas: Piano Sonata
    65. Gershwin: Porgy and Bess
    66. Tippett: Piano Concerto
    67. Poulenc: Songs (ATMA, 5 discs)
    68. Szymanowski: Violin Concerto No. 1
    69. Gluck: Alceste
    70. Vivaldi: L’estro armonico, Op. 3
    71. Puccini: La Bohème
    72. Hanson: Symphony No. 2 “Romantic”
    73. Alkan: 12 Etudes in All the Minor Keys, Op. 39
    74. Dutilleux: Métaboles
    75. Glinka: Kamarinskaya
    76. Crumb: Makrokosmos III (Music for a Summer Evening)
    77. Biber: Sonata violino solo representativa
    78. Josquin: Missa Ave maris stella
    79. Arnold: Symphony No. 5
    80. Fauré: Piano Quartets (Trio Wanderer) Harmonia Mundi
    81. Hovhaness: Fra Angelico
    82. Martinu: Symphony No. 6 “Fantaisies symphoniques”
    83. Grainger: Lincolnshire Posy
    84. Corelli: 12 Concerti grossi, Op. 6
    85. Bellini: Norma

КОМЕНТАРІ • 41

  • @syanhc
    @syanhc Рік тому +3

    Ah. I used to perform that piece. The third movement is to die for....

  • @FREDGARRISON
    @FREDGARRISON Рік тому +2

    Looks like this Ives sonata is like the grape "CONCORD" !!!! Have a strong liking for Ives' First Symphony. Always have that first movement theme going through what little mind I have left. Thanks Dave.

  • @jesseboy303
    @jesseboy303 Рік тому +3

    Ives is my boyy! one work? Probably Holidays Symphony or concord sonata

  • @ecriturecinematographique2987
    @ecriturecinematographique2987 Рік тому +4

    I think I might pick the DeGaetani/Kalish Ives songs album.

  • @marquezdrums
    @marquezdrums Рік тому +2

    It took a reading of Jan Swafford's biography on Ives before I really appreciated his work, but I've seen the light - a true original if there ever was one. I'd throw in a vote for The Unanswered Question, even though the Concord is more interesting and less well known. It sums up the human condition in a few minutes - the trumpet asking "why", the winds answer with indecipherable or even mocking/cruel responses, and the strings (the "ancients", the universe perhaps) calmly existing knowingly, indifferent (?) in stoic silence amidst it all. It can be interpreted in so many other profound ways and I think is one of the greatest pieces of art.

  • @ocelotsly5521
    @ocelotsly5521 Рік тому +4

    Splendid pick. Mine's the Orchestral Set no. 2. Remarkable work.

  • @windowtrimmer8211
    @windowtrimmer8211 Рік тому +9

    Great choice but I have a confession to make. My ear has been re-trained to hear the Concord Sonata as the Concord Symphony as arranged by Brant! Especially the 2nd movement ("Hawthorne") which is as jaw-dropping a feat of orchestration as I've ever encountered.

    • @ewmbr1164
      @ewmbr1164 Рік тому

      My thoughts, too.

    • @Doneallicando
      @Doneallicando Рік тому

      I agree it was an amazing orchestration. Saying that doesn't even do it justice. But rather than taking anything away from the original composition, it only makes me appreciate what Ives did, even more. If only Ives had considered orchestrating it instead of trying to write the Emerson Concerto, he might have had an easier time. Not to say he would have equaled Brant's orchestrational efforts, which are the culmination of true love and respect, but an Ives orchestration of the Concord Sonata, would have provided a unique window into the piece. At any rate, what we have is the best piano sonata of the 20th Century and an outright first-rate orchestral realization.

  • @dianelewis4774
    @dianelewis4774 Рік тому +1

    That was so interesting ,and your family history with Ives!

  • @davidaiken1061
    @davidaiken1061 Рік тому +2

    I almost chose the Concord Sonata as our offering to the Dark God. In the end, though, I thought an orchestral work might be more representative. There are two orchestral effects, dear to Ives, that can't quite be reproduced on the piano: brass bands and distant church bells/chimes. The latter apparently had a special significance for the composer. But I agree with you, Dave, that in every other respect the Concord Sonata is the very heart of Ives's muse. We can't forget that Ives composed some truly great chamber music--Quartets and Violin Sonatas, which don't get the attention they deserve. Ives's music will always evoke everything I love about New England.

  • @shantihealer
    @shantihealer Рік тому +2

    Surprising amount of piano solo in this list but still have to get to know this sonata so thank you. Looking forward in anticipation to Khatchaturian, Webern, Moeran, Glazunov, Rozsa, Vasks, Kallnnikov, Bliss, Scriabin, PIston, Paganini ... so many delights in the classical music world.

  • @BeeMichael
    @BeeMichael Рік тому +1

    Great choice, but my vote goes to The Unanswered Question, IMHO the most significant piece in the 20th century and maybe all time.

  • @dmntuba
    @dmntuba Рік тому +2

    Sadly as I was working as a professional, orchestral, freelance Tuba player other than "Variations on America " Ives was never programed so I never really listened to his music.
    Thanks to you and your videos I have dived into Ives over the last couple years, and LOVING IT!!!!
    A true Master 👍

  • @leestamm3187
    @leestamm3187 Рік тому +2

    Good choice. Coincidentally, I listened to the old Kirkpatrick recording of it just a few days ago.

  • @michaelk6057
    @michaelk6057 Рік тому +2

    I completely agree, this is one of 'those' pieces that stand outside regular music for me. I think I picked up a recording on a whim when I was still in University, probably the old Nonesuch with Gilbert Kalish, and it still exerts quite a pull. Forty something years later it's one of those pieces that still speaks strongly to me and I continue to seek out different interpretations, just to learn more. So obviously I would consider this one of my favourite pieces, but that's not to say I have a favourite performance. Can a single interpretation reveal everything contained inside? It seems like Ives didn't think so since he spent his life tinkering with it.

  • @barrygray8903
    @barrygray8903 Рік тому +2

    The Concord sonata is one Ives composition I have not yet heard,; this video has sparked my curiosity and I will be listening to the Hamelin recording (on Hyperion) very soon.
    BTW this scenario has occurred for several of the works you have discussed in this series and I have discovered or re-discovered distinctive and characteristic works by
    Szymanowski, Berg, Beethoven, and Bernard Herrmann, to name just a few.Thank you for providing more avenues for broadening our horizons ( in addition to presenting these well-chosen works to the evil god Cancrizans).

  • @liamcawley6570
    @liamcawley6570 Рік тому +2

    I thought perhaps you'd pick the 114 songs as a whole (as you did with Poulenc if I recall) as having a little of everything Ives has to offer, career-spanning as they are.

  • @joewebb1983
    @joewebb1983 Рік тому +3

    Totally agree, when I first heard it I was blown away. A great choice!
    BTW, just listened to Bychkov's Mahler2... You are going to LOVE it (see what I did there?) 😁

  • @goonbelly5841
    @goonbelly5841 Рік тому +2

    I would have gone with Michigan J. Frog's favorite Ives composition, "Central Park in the Dark'. Any work that features "Hello, ma baby!" on acid, gets my vote.

  • @smileydts
    @smileydts Рік тому

    I 100% agree with choosing the Concord Sonata, and while I love the piece, I think it’s typical of Ives in yet another way: it might not be entirely successful in accomplishing what it sets out to accomplish. By virtue of being outside of the musical establishment, Ives was free to experiment, to take risks, and to fail. Maybe to others, the Concord Sonata is perfect exactly as it is with not a note out of place, but to me it has that “take this how you will” quality in common with so much of his music.

  • @graserclassical
    @graserclassical Рік тому

    This is indeed one of his best major works. I think my pick would be the "Variations on America" originally for organ where it sounds absolutely ridiculous, then orchestrated by William Schuman for orchestra and then that version was "bandestrated" by Bill Rhoads. Since then it has become a huge staple of the wind band rep especially. A work from his youth, to be sure, and a brief one, but the more developed ideas you mention in the Concord are there in tongue-in-cheek fashion in the America Variations.

  • @pkmcburroughs
    @pkmcburroughs Рік тому +1

    Oh, boy! I've been secretly hoping for this one. I first heard Ives in a music class I took as a general election back in college and I've been listening to him ever since.

  • @reamartin6458
    @reamartin6458 Рік тому +1

    You are correct

  • @rbmelk7083
    @rbmelk7083 Рік тому +1

    Yes! This is fourth one I’ve chosen correctly!:)

  • @owlcowl
    @owlcowl Рік тому +1

    Had to be this piece, as I anticipated, or Sym 4 or Three Places in New England, but theres an abundance of worthy runner-ups. With Ives' even more irascible friend Carl Ruggles, the least prolific composer of the 20C (even less than Varese!) despite his remarkable longevity, theres only one choice: Sun-Treader.

  • @richfarmer3478
    @richfarmer3478 Рік тому +1

    I'm not saying this should be the choice but I love the Variations on America,not the orchestration by William Schuman which is OK,but the original for organ he composed when he was 17. It is so much fun to listen to especially the finale,as played by E.Power Biggs.

  • @williamkeller5176
    @williamkeller5176 Рік тому

    Heard John Kirkpatrick in Yale’s Sprague Hall play Ives with the prepared piano - I recall he held a wooden(?) rack-like apparatus to strike clusters of keys to achieve simultaneous effects. Good chance you were there; early 1970s.

    • @DavesClassicalGuide
      @DavesClassicalGuide  Рік тому +1

      I wasn't there. It's not a "prepared piano"--it's just a board of a certain, specified length.

  • @RichardGreen422
    @RichardGreen422 Рік тому

    One could choose all kind of pieces for most composers. But I think in Ive's case, this is the only choice. It is representative, and it is the only Ive's work I wouldn't want to be without.

  • @d.r.martin6301
    @d.r.martin6301 Рік тому

    Spot on. Pretty damned great music, for an insurance executive.

  • @michaelpdawson
    @michaelpdawson Рік тому +1

    Fine choice, but mine would have been the Trio. Or the 4th Symphony.

  • @syanhc
    @syanhc Рік тому

    Messian is the same. Where would we be without the organ works?

  • @herbchilds1512
    @herbchilds1512 Рік тому

    "Central Park in the Dark" and "The Unanswered Question."
    I only wish Ives had spent less time selling insurance, and more time with his music!

    • @DavesClassicalGuide
      @DavesClassicalGuide  Рік тому

      He was a very good insurance salesmen. His pamphlet "The Amount to Carry" is still standard reading.

  • @adrianosbrandao
    @adrianosbrandao Рік тому +1

    Wondering if Dave’s father knew Charles Ives 😉

  • @jgesselberty
    @jgesselberty Рік тому

    Have to say, before I clicked on the video, I said Fourth Symphony.

  • @edwardcasper5231
    @edwardcasper5231 Рік тому

    Ives had the luxury of not being dependent on music for his livelihood. So he could write pretty much write what he wanted to. The crabby "dog" (god spelled backwards) can't take that away from him. LOL. 🤣

  • @kinkycadete225
    @kinkycadete225 Рік тому

    Hey Dave, to me it was a clear choice between Piano Sonata n.2 and Sym.4. Please don’t forget America’s greatest and most important composer… HENRY COWELL!

    • @kinkycadete225
      @kinkycadete225 Рік тому

      P.S. I love MAH’s recording of the Concord Sonata on NWR