The 2021 Quarterback Draft Class Disappointed Everyone
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It still boggles my mind how Zach Wilson just came out of nowhere and instantly became the QB2 of this draft.
He’s trash to
Folks don’t really do any scouting
It was entirely because of one single throw in his pro day. Go back and watch. Everyone was wowed.
Just like Trubisky 😂
I watched his pro day they was dickriding because he had one good throw💀
Davis Mills looked to be best QB from this class for a moment
that was the scary part
He still might be the second or third best.
@@QwertyCaesar not better then Lawrence or Mac.. Mac went too a Pro Bowl and won 10 games In his rookie season so that automatically puts him in third he has not had the success Mac has had
@@DIRTYSOUTHSHINOBIDavis Mills is 3-1 against Trevor Lawrence and Mac jones only went to the pro bowl because the other QBs didn’t want to play 🤣🤣🤣
@@DIRTYSOUTHSHINOBI Mac made a mickey mouse Pro Bowl and Pro Bowls don't matter anymore.
This QB class shows how much development at the NFL level matters more than simple prospect talent / rankings.
Trevor Lawrence - Urban Meyer situation in his first season
Zach Wilson - Jets (need I say more?)
Trey Lance - Overshadowed by Brock Purdy, and essentially forgotten about and subsequently traded to the Cowboys, where he’s still the 3rd string QB.
Justin Fields - Matt Nagy & overall Bears development has sucked for him, probably the 2nd best QB at the end of their careers.
Mac Jones - Belicheck is not a good developer of QBs, and has obviously regressed.
I agree but I’m confused by the Lawrence comment did you mean that urban hindered his development? (I’m agreeing just clarifying)
@@hzh0847 Yes, having an abysmal coach in his first season, on top of all of the drama said coach brought, was extremely detrimental to Trevor Lawrence. We’ve seen CJ Stroud thrive under DeMeco Ryan’s culture and coaching, along with other guys like Joe Burrow and Tua Tagovailoa (both I attribute to coaching and resilience)
Trey Lance was mostly due to injury I think. Iirc he got the starting Job 2021 -> Got injured instantly (Concussion?) missed two games, played two games got injured again and then it was Jimmys job. 2022 he then got back the starting job in preseason only to get injured again after two games and then Jimmy and Purdy came in.
Mac Jones failing is on Mac Jones, not Bill Belicheck
@koldonn1111 So it was Mac's decision to have a Defensive Coordinator call plays on offense his second year, making the entire offense stagnant and unreliable as a result? Or not get him a real #1 receiver and instead let his best one walk out in free agency? Or let his O-Line get progressively worse as years pass? Which as of week 11, is currently in the bottom 3 of the league for pass protection in 2023?
Wait, nevermind. I forgot Bill was responsible for every single one of these 🤦🏿♂️
Fields wasn't known as a "dual threat" coming out of college. He was extremely accurate, completing more than 70%. His legs came to fruition out of necessity with one of the worst lines in NFL history.
Exactly. Not only that, but his receiving core for the 22-23 season was the worst in the league. Constantly being the lowest in separation. Dude has to make something out of nothing with his line being bad and his receivers not being able to get open.
Wow I didn't know that I didn't see his college games I thought it was always a running quarterback
He was still known for to be a great athlete with great running ability which was a big part NFL projections. He had 15 rushing TDs in his 2 years at OSU ...
His offensive line was never that bad. He holds the ball way too long
@@ataturk_33 oh, I see... The Bears line wasn't historically bad in 2022, 32nd ranked and would have given up even more sacks if he didn't evade 50 more...
You're right...
He's just absolutely terrible 🙄
Mac Jones’s development was the worst. To have Matt Patricia as offensive coordinator in his second year and be benched a number of times Belicheck has destroyed his confidence and honestly he’ll probably be better off at another team as a backup. And Bellicheck has always been frugal with offensive weapons, always looking for low round draft steals over high round offensive draft picks.(he got away with it for 20 years with Tom Brady, Wes Welker and Julian Edelman)
If you're gonna fire or allow a QB's OC to leave you need to replace them with another OC from the same coaching tree.
@@kimyona9746 Would you hire a former defensive coordinator as your offensive coordinator?
@@youtubeistryingtocensorme a defensive coordinator and offensive coordinator are inherently not from the same coaching tree
This goes for you and basically for most other people: it's "Belichick", not "Bellicheck", "Belicheck", "Belecheck" or any other combination. It's "Belichick", pretty simple.
@@federicoantonietti7851 MAC JONES IS THE WORST QB DRAFT PICK EVER! THIS IS WHY HE SHOULD STAY BENCHED AND GET RELEASED.
I think the Jaguars are pretty happy, TL may not be the finished article, but he's clearly on his way there. He's got the Jags to the Playoffs won a game they had no business winning and they're on their way back to the postseason . As for the others what can you say, Stroud, Richardson and Levis have already shown more potential . Go Hawks
Richardson has only finished one game , and Levi had one good game , stroud yes he looks great right now
Trevor has underwhelmed
@@Batman-eh9ww
Greetings from the UK, regarding Richardson & Levis I didn't say they were locked on franchise QB the operative words were " shown more potential ". Even in their limited sample size they have displayed more encouraging flashes of ability. Go Hawks
@spidamitchell8311 As a Jags fan, I disagree wholeheartedly. We are Duval not a team with a lot of history of winning. Trevor has made us win. He is also 3rd all time passing for the jaguars in his 3rd year. I do think however that the jags will start winning from here on out.
@@TheManiac2 I wholeheartedly agree, about TL he's light years ahead of the rest of his QB draft class. I would urge Jags fans to be wary of Shad Khan he clearly wants to move the franchise to over here in London. Go Hawks
It's either injuries, going to a bad team that doesn't want to develop and protect their quarterback for some reason, or bad circumstances. Why can't teams just normally develop a quarterback or protect them?
Which one of these is Zach Wilson?
Or it’s just the QBs are bad not everyone is going to be good in the NFL
@@herbgottidadon well it depends. if a team is notorious for being a shitty team no matter the QB, at what point do you start looking at the management of the team? In the last decade, the Jets have only had a .500+ record twice with 6 different starting quarterbacks. Are all 6 of those QB's solely at fault? I would say no. A team example of a QB at fault would be the Texans. Last year they had 3 wins. With a new quarterback and very few roster changes offensively, the team is already at more wins than they were last year.
I wouldn't say that the '21 draft class was screwed entirely by management though anyway. Mac has gotten worse as a player overall despite his OK weapons (though Billy B hasn't really done much to help him out); Lance had some injuries that held him back and when Purdy stepped up and played better, Lance got overshadowed and eventually traded as the 49ers are contending and need a QB now rather than later; and Lawrence is really the only true exception as the Jags hired Douggie P right after his first season and both took their 3-14 team to 9-8 and a playoff win (despite mid QB play).
Explain Jordan love. I think if a qb can play he’ll show it. In reality I think there’s very few qbs that would’ve done better if they went to a different team. This new narrative of bad spot is made up by draft media to cover up their bad evaluations.
@@JJ-zr6fu Jordan Love was put into the same situation that Aaron Rodgers wanted out of. No solid WR1s, mid RBs with no offensive line to help them or Love, bad offensive play-calling with only the defence keeping them in games. I don't even think Love has been that bad. This is technically his rookie season with no major pieces to keep them in games. By no means is the team bad, they just aren't good enough right now and the media hyping them up in the preseason didn't help them.
I have high hopes for Trevor Lawrence his hair is too cool to fail
Drafting QBs is insanely risky. Franchises gamble everything on a very low reward bet it seems
What happen was most of those QBs(Wilson, Fields, Lance) were drafted because of their potential. Everyone is or was trying to get the next Mahomes or Josh Allen. But teams are forgetting these QBs with huge potential need to be developed right. Mahomes had Andy Reid who's a great QB guru(McNabb,Vick, an Alex Smith) and only played 1 game his rookie year. It took Allen 2 years to reach his potential and it was thanks to Buffalo building a great system around him to succeed including trading for Stefan Diggs. The Jets and Bears historically can't develop Qbs so Wilson and Fields were in a bad situation from the start. Trey Lance struggled because Shanahan's scheme is too complicated for certain QBs. And Mac Jones showed how bad the Patriots are at drafting talent around the QB.
Mahomes had Reid. Allen had Brian Daboll. It will be interesting to see if Dabol can do for Caleb Williams or DRAKE MAYE what he did for Josh Allen. think Daniel Jones is out of NY as the starter, tbh.
@@SuperOmnicronsj44 Wrong Jones.
Bingo 💯.
You might say its hindsight but I always thought 2021 QB draft class was nothing but a phantom.
2020 College football had one of the worst defenses I've seen. I think COVID hit defense harder than offense and there were too many broken-coverage-wide-open-TDs, even in college football standard.
And plus, with reduced games, QBs really didn't have too many "bad games" to pick apart. They looked great on paper.
Add two together, and we got multiple QBs with huge stats and highlight reels, and not many bad films to complain, and with so many teams with needs at QB, they all gambled, and I guess they all paid for them.
I also think the defences have better elite athletes off the edges (4.4 types), and coverages just work. Going to be interesting to see what 2024 class has to offer.
Lawrence played in 2019 and 2020 and teams saw how good he was.
Lance played in 2019 and one game in 2020 then the season was cancelled.
2020 was a weird year for college football. Indiana of all schools almost made the Big Ten title game!
HOT TAKE: Covid definitely hurt the scouting for the 2021 draft QB wise
That's not a hot take. That's just a fact. These guys in hindsight were fools gold
this is a freezing cold take
Not a hot take. Literally everyone knows this
@@DarthVader-if9krno they don't
@@ultimatecharisma2822 Who doesn’t? Anyone be who looks at the year will know that Covid shortened the tape that could have revealed any flaws
Poor Mac. Has had 3 different offensive coordinators in 3 years. The worst receiving corps in the league and one of the worst o-lines. He’s had his own faults too, but I just have a feeling if he had come into this league on a better team, he could have developed into a good franchise QB. I hope that he does get another opportunity somehow, somewhere in this league
Zach is only on the jets roster is because the jets owner is friends with zachs uncle, who is the CEO of jet blue , one of the jets biggest sponsors
Really? I didn't know that. Does Zach Wilson's uncle hate him?
I've only really followed the draft since about 2018 and the longer I go, the more I realise how ridiculous it is that analysts hype up players as can't miss prospects and generational talents that will change the NFL. Like just off the top of my head Kyle Pitts Trevor Lawrence and Chase Young were all marketed as dead certainties to be future all-pros
Its weird 2020 was arguably the best 2021 arguably the worst for qbs
I think Sam Howell and Brock Purdy are better than all of the qbs that was drafted in 2020.
Lawrence is the only good one from the 2021 draft. But Zach Wilson, Justin Fields And Mac Jones Are Awful!
@@hahahaha1472020 was the Herbert Burrow Tua year… I’m a 9ers fan so I love Purdy but I wouldn’t go that far
@@hahahaha147 no way you think that Purdy and Howell I better than Burrow or Herbert
@@derekko1930 I meant to say the 2021 draft. With that being said I think Howell is going to develop into an elite qb.
The real issue is the lack of qb development. Let them sit a few seasons with a clipboard and a vet teaching them.
aww love you too bud lmfao but fr, love the content, love the work. you're one of the best on this site, always stoked to see you dropped another video. doing God's work
appreciate it Zachary new video out soon
Thank you for your videos I’m upset how bill developed Mac Jones 3 oc in 3 years and mac has never had a true wr1 or wr2
Me too
Exactly look at some other young qbs
Wilson has the other Wilson
Fields now has Dj and Mooney as well as Kmet
Lance had great weapons and Trevor has Kirk
@@spidamitchell8311Zach Wilson has all those receivers and is still bad. I'm sick of the excuses for Mac.
@@jasonlejuan975my guy, his receivers are dead last in separation and can't even catch a cold. If Trevor Lawrence was on this offense for the Patriots he would fail as well.
Listening to this while driving, and blanked out during the Zach Wilson segment. Tuned back in and he was still deservedly going in on Zach Wilson lol
Call me crazy, but I truly think that Trey Lance got done so dirty. I think with all the unlock of injuries he had, he’s been written off to quickly. I hope he finds a new home and thrives where he goes.
My other take is that with the right coaching and maybe in the right situation, Davis Mills could be a low end starter/high end backup in this league. He’s proven that he can push the ball downfield. His only problem is turnovers.
Lance simply did NOT show enough and the Niners window for success is NOW. Quite frankly if they blow it again in the NFC Title game, I am positive they will back up the brinks truck for Kirk Cousins. Purdy is just a cheaper option and is on his Kurt Warner run FOR NOW.
Purdy showed them way more so they had to roll with him
Purdy DID what Lance didn't.. end of the convo..
I like these analyses.
Wish time would go by quicker so we can get more of these about the newer guys. LoL
great breakdown in this vid!
Thank you!
I really think that Lawrence does deserve a bit of leeway considering his very first year in the NFL was the Meyer experiment. First impressions in development matter a lot, and it's hard to think of a worse first year than that. So long as he continues to improve and grow past that awful year, which he has overall, I think it's still too soon to say that he is or isn't a relative disappointment.
To think that an injured Aaron Rodgers is sitting on the sideline right now thinking “this kid idolized me and now I have to watch him ruin my team every week”
Blame the GM for not getting an interim.
Lawrence is the only one who looks like a franchise QB
No he doesn't
@danielden805 has them in the playoffs, winning record, winning division, this team was awful until last year
@@danielden805 There are only about 5 QBs in the NFL i would trade for over TL. Stop watching stats and actually watch a game.
They called me a mad man when I said the 2022 class had just as much potential, now look at Purdy, Howell and Pickett ( sometimes😂) all doing well.
Lol right now I'd restrict it to Howell and Purdy
@@maskedman5657you mean Howell and Purdy
@@maskedman5657 yeah😂 I’m not a Steelers fan ( Sadly I’m a commanders fan) but Howell and Purdy are levels above him, I haven’t given up on Kenny though lol.
2022 was a fluke season, mostly because of this shit, but we will never forget that 2021 brought us, close ass games and a 12-5 team that barely made the super bowl and barely won the super bowl, that is pure competitiveness right there, and i doubt we'll ever see that again until 2025
I think the 2022 class already looks much better than the 2021 class did in year 2. Howell is top 5 in YPG, Pickett is leading the league in 4th Qtr comebacks and Purdy is leading rhe NFL in efficiency and might even be part of the MVP conversation in a weak QB year. Stroud is already surpassing the whole 2021 class as well.
You should do a video on how crazy the 2019 class was all around. Specifically edge and dline
And WR! A class with Deebo Samuel, DK Metcalf, AJ Brown, Terry McLaurin, and Diontae Johnson deserves credit
All I could see is how quickly DB’s cover field and close plays up in a heartbeat. Shows you how only a handful of QBs can regularly manipulate defenses and get the ball where it needs to be before they can read it. Sounds basic but just watching these highlights holy shit.
That's is because he waits for a 📞 her to be open since he has trouble reading defenses and can't throw with anticipation.
It's confusing the AFC South keeps getting called a bad division. The Colts are frisky, and the Texans are currently a wildcard team. The AFCS is better than the NFC South and similar in strength right now to the AFC East and NFC North.
I’m really interested to see how the Vikings handle the QB situation if Dobbs continues to play well the rest of the season
That doesn't surprise me one bit about Fields having better stats that Lawrence. If Fields played for an actual NFL team he'd be a top 10 QB right now.
Chicago is where talent/qb's go to die. I don't see how people put it all on the player.
Not at all. Fields is even worse than midget face of the Ravens.
And I actually had high hopes for Fields (since he was a good passer for Ohio). His reads and accuracy are too abysmal currently and turning the ball way too many times over
Been trying to think of what teams would be best. Since the Pats & Giants are likely gonna finish low enough to draft a prospect, I'm thinking the Titans & Vrabel might be a place he can succeed. Cripes, the Browns _and_ Bengals may need new starting QBs.
The Saints & Falcons would be more of the same, coaches with too many Preconceived Notions about what a QB "should be" & not how to best use the ones they have. The Jets would be an amazing fit but they won't deal for a QB if Rodgers is coming back. Same with Geno Smith & the Seahawks although that fit seems *ideal!*
Raiders? I'd hate to see him get stuck on that team. Jets & Seahawks would be where he could succeed _now._ But they have little or no need to get him.
Justin Fields can not read a defense. Holds the ball because he doesn’t know where to go with it. Could be a serviceable backup. Not starter level. Never was an NFL starter level QB.
@@fireye0889 Watch his highlight reels. UA-cam has plenty. He's *excellent* at throwing TD passes into tight windows. WAY above average. (You won't find stuff like that on Tom Brady's highlights, that's for damned sure).
For Some Unknown Reason he simply started staring at open receivers last season. A _LOT!_ If I'm not mistaken, that's a New Feature of his.
So if he's doing it intentionally or semi-so, to indicate he dislikes the play called or is trying to wait for a better pass to open up, it's stupid of him to do so. If he's concussed, then the coaches should have responded to this WAY before now.
I honestly don't know what's going on with him. To me, I think that yeah, the coaching staff had it in for him & Fields doesn't know *what **_players_* also might. The fact that he developed a close friendship only with some guy they acquired in the off-season implies he hasn't gotten close with anyone already there.
Even if they don't outright say so, coaches who dislike their QB communicate this to the team. *They **_see_* the differences in how they're treated. & what's a player to do? Side against the people paying their salary?
That may be what's going on but I'm reaching, I'm aware.
This channel is so underrated
Trevor's td to int ratio doesn't tell the whole story, he's had multiple games where he throws for 300+ yards with no tds or picks. I agree he needs to be better under pressure but the jags also have a terrible line (literally got him hurt). Wes Presleys redzone playcalling was also pretty bad to start the year.
The bears stunned Justin’s growth
great video
Thank you!
Trey Lance is the James Wiseman of the NFL
I'm beginning to think culture/scheme/coaching fit is more important than a QB's talent.
Crazy how Josh Dobbs immediately makes the Jets respectable but their front office didn't want to make any sort of move
Reload for 1 big run with rodgers I guess. They might be in position to get the top o-lineman
He's benched
Even the best quarterback in this class isn't as great as we all thought
I still think Lawrence has the potential to become a top 10ish QB in the league. At least Lawrence despite being a bit underwhelming stat wise, is winning games.
Fields still could be solid as well. Watching him play he feels like the offbrand Lamar, big difference being Lamar progressed as a passer much faster than Fields and Lamar had a coaching staff and team that fully believed in him. He’ll never be as effective or good as Lamar, but in a improved situation he might be solid.
He’s winning games because of the team around him and mainly the defense, wins are not a qb stat
He is already top 10. Arm talent the ability to read the defence idk what people a talking about. Even with a shitty oline he wins games and makes unreal throws. People should actually watch him play not just the "lowlights"in 2 bad games
@@abelmeszlenyi77I don’t know. Top 15 for sure but there are a lot of qbs better than him at least this season.
@@EJD339 You must just be looking at stats if you think that. Please list the QBs you would take over TL? Not herbert or Allen hes been much better than both of them. Mahomes, Jackson, Burrow, maybe stroud if he keeps playing like he has but that it. Jags are 7 and 3 the Oline is ranked the third worst in the NFL.
@@kylegrant9980ain’t no way you said Lawerence is better than Herbert and Allen 💀💀
That second pass, with Mac Jones the WR didn't attack the ball at the high point. Pittsburg Safety just drifted into the scene and made an INT.
Hate seeing WR not going for the ball - might have broken up the INT.
Very professional!
It makes it even worse considering that the 2020 class looks legendary
Who was in the 2020 draft class 🤔
Ngl when you said 5 qbs in the first I thought you misspoke. Then I remembered Trey Lance existed…
Fields cannot read defenses, that's why he holds the ball too long
Man looking back to the draft, they really were all great college prospects. It’s a shame!
Justin Fields should probably still be given another year as I think he is still very good. Trevor is a B+ QB who has a great team. I knew Wilson would bust, wasn’t sure about Tre and thought Mac would be a bit better which his rookie season wasn’t bad
What if the bears have the #1 pick? Are we just supposed to pass on Caleb williams just cause fields might develop?
I agree on Fields, and one thing to say about Trevor is that the team he was drafted into was a disaster. He helped to turn the narrative around into the "great team" they are now even if his numbers aren't gaudy. That being said, like was said in the video, his stats are disappointed given the draft propsect he was supposed to be.
@@loganwagner1539 yes
I agree with everything but I don't feilds should go to a different team
@@loganwagner1539 Yes. Williams is a gamble, like all draftees. Use or trade the #1pick to build a great OL, get a solid OC, and go from there. But I know it won't happen, so I hope Fields gets traded to a future-minded franchise.
I think Fields is going to surprise a lot of people in these last six games.
Potential is currency of hope. Got to see how he produces.
😭
1:25 nice hit LOL
It's the Bill Walsh 1/4 ratio. Still holds up.
Every QB first round has a 1/4 chance. Then 2nd 1/5, then third round 1/6 and it goes down like that
This class somehow was more disappointing then the 2018 class to me. Baker would easily be the 2nd best QB in this class
bakers prime was better than anyone in this class honestly
Baker would be THE best in this class. He has better stats RIGHT now than Trevor with no run game
@@micahkiyimba8641 Yes stats matter so much. Trevor didnt even play most of the 4th qt last game and many other games they just run the ball in the second half after going up 2 or more scores. Maybe watch a game if you think baker is even close to him
baker mayfield is worse than fields tho lmao
Bears will be completely screwed if they sign Fields to a long term deal as QB1..........
This is why i think twice whenever i hear that a certain years draft class is "trash" or its "cant-miss".
it’s kinda ignorant to say trevor has played bad this year, because it’s just not true. His receivers have the highest drops in the nfl and he’s a unanimous top 10 qb so i think there’s not much you can knock for his team letting him down.
Id takw back some of that Jets GM praise has def gotten talent but one of the most vital parts to a football team is the O Line and its been horrible for the past 3 yrs
New introooooo
The book is still out on Lance though, to be fair. As a 49er fan, I still believe in Trey.
Trey Lance might be the unluckiest player in NFL history.
-1 year in FCS
-COVID shuts down his second year
-gets drafted to a Super Bowl ready team
-sits another year
-first game as starter is a rain game, plays terrible, perhaps due to inexperience/weather
-breaks his ankle in his second game as the starter
-the literal last pick in the draft is the living reincarnation of Joe Montana somehow
-hasn't played more than two games in a row in 3 years
-has a bad training camp
-traded
I'll never get over it
Zach got drafted because of the byu jet blue jets family connection. That front office knows he’s a bust but because he’s someone’s nephew they refused to label him as a bust while the nfl world knows he is
I am a firm believer in QBs being given time to develop etc. However I think we are overdoing it slightly in the comments.
-Zach Wilson has had an F situation with Jets no questions asked but he also just doesnt have full understanding of how to respond to pressure while still going through reads properly.
-Mac Jones had a fine enough cast around him year 1, arguably the best of the bunch since Trey didnt play, but he has a lot of the same exact problems Zach has as a player. Neither guy is very good. At best they are average middle of the pack QBs when surrounded by a perfect situation.
-Trey had worst luck of group by far. Injuries derailed him and during that time a rare good day 3 QB emerged and took his job.
-Fields was literally never more than a project QB who cant read defenses but his coaches have refused to put him in an offense tailored for him. He is the guy I think has been held back by coaches the most as you can do a lot with a guy with Fields talents, despite his limitations.
-TLAW just isnt a difference maker despite his physical talents. He needs better blocking but I dont see why anyone would think at this point Urban Meyer has anything to do with his game....Urban wasnt playing on the field then and def is not now lol
The franchise you go to is key!
Bengals, Jaguars and Texans were horrible when Burrow, Lawrence and Stroud got there. Some guys just have it.
Of the five, who is more likely to win a Lombardi trophy? I would say Trevor Lawrence as a starting quarterback, and I could say Trey Lance as a backup.
I actually believe Mac Jones will develop better with a different coach next year. I don’t want him under Bill Belichick again after this season.
Justin Fields might do well in Baltimore, because if Lamar Jackson can perform the way he does, Fields might too.
Zach Wilson, I honestly would just forget it!
I wonder if in hindsight, you could watch every Ohio state game for the past few years and see anything. Other than cj having a much more preferable starting support crew in Houston. In the times I saw them in college I feel like the stuff cj and Justin fields did well were your stereotypical big bodied athletic dude with a cannon for an arm things. I don’t recall ever noticing the playbook being bigger for cj or like they felt he was a better processor than JF
Scouts need to reevaluate what they are looking for. It's not just what you look like on the outside or have a canon arm. Kudos to SF for finding Purdy. Intangibles are important, too.
They didn't find purdy. Pure luck.
@@b3arwithm3 Minnesota is looking good with Dobbs. Lots of diamonds in ruff out there. Great stories and good guys to root for.
@@b3arwithm3 agree 100%.
@@karenhardie1132 I am not high on Dobbs because he had lots of bad games before. But I would be happy for him if he indeed turned to corner
@@b3arwithm3 Purdy was evaluated by Brian Griese and another assistant and scout.
Wouldn’t be mad if Kevin O’Connell got a chance to coach fields
We go from the 2020 draft where it seems every qb was a hit, to 2021
hoping this years qb class is way better and hopefully my patriots find their franchise qb :(
They need a wr
@@spidamitchell8311 They need both receiver and QB.
I went to high school with Zach Wilson. Small world.
Immediately after this Trevor rattled off three of his best games this season. He’s definitely elite
It didn't disappoint people that said there were no 1st rounders in the draft
Those people didn’t exist. Everyone had Lawrence going #1
People don’t wanna talk about it but Trevor Lawernce has been pretty much only above average and not the generational guy he was hyped up to be
He’s so overrated and about to get 40-45m a year
He's a little above average but so far Stroud is performing at the hype level that was afforded TL.
I think the jets offensive woes are just getting started. Hackett does and always has sucked a$$. The whole offense is basically resting on the hope that Old Man Rodgers can still bail him out
Zach Wilson stats are unbelievable. If a quarterback had 20 Passing TD in one year that is still considered low.
Zach has a total of 20 Passing TD in Close to 3 years of football. 56 percent complete rate in close to 3 years. That has to be the lowest among quarterbacks who have 30 starts in 2 and half years.
Another stat that is overlooked is the amount of times Zach Wilson has fumbled the ball. 9 fumbles alone this year at Week 11.
2023 stats (after10 Weeks)
5 Passing TDS, 6 Interceptions, 9 Fumbles,
Zach Wilson’s issue is he shouldn’t have been taken as number 2 overall, at best he’s a 2nd rounder, at worst a 5th rounder
And going to a dumpster fire like the 2020-2021 Jets did him no favors
I feel like people would have a different opinion if say….he went to the LA Rams to sit behind Matt Stafford for a couple seasons or the Vikings to sit behind Kirk Cousins
I still think he could be salvageable into a backup/journeyman QB but he’s still a work in progress
Mac Jones had potential and then Bill Belichick decided to destroy him, the Patriots, and everyone because Belichick is dumb and thought Matt Patricia could run an offense
Bill created Tom Brady and drew Bledsoe. Even created dion branch and Kevin Faulk.
What's the excuse now that he got the OC he wanted Bill O'Brien?
This class was so disappointing, most fans and analysts were disappointed with them a year before they got drafted.
davis mills, mac jones, wilson, fields, lawrence was the qb ranking after their rookie year
Mac isn't the issue. the pisspoor coaching with a beyond his time HC and pisspoor O line are the issue. Give him a Line and 1 decent reciever and he will play leagues better
Thank you. I've been saying for a long time. Remawe need to reserve the word bust for the Vine. Least and jamarcus Russell's of the NFL. Cleveland Farrell got labeled the bust Because he wasn't a sackmaster. However, if you look at his Mone stuffing capability, he was running the better ones In the league. And even in the day we're all the credit goes to the core back once stuffing is still in necessity
The Jets are playing the long game with Zach Wilson. If he's there for ten years, he has a greater chance of becoming a competent player. Patience is the key.
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what went wrong with the 49ers scouting and development and what went wrong with lances skill. I guess what I’m asking is I always wondered why and how he sucked but he never played so like why pick him
You are showing your ignorance. Lance Played his entire 2019 season and one game in 2020 before the football program shutdown due to Covid.
The Niners drafted Lance in 2021 because Garoppolo is always injured. Garoppolo was QB1 in 2021 and Lance as the backup was to learn the playbooks. However, to get Lance more playing times, Shanahan used Lance like how the Saints were using Taysom Hill. We saw glimpses of Lance skills, but due to his pointing finger injury in his rookie preseason that seem to affect his throwing motions and his passes. Lance sustained a sprained ankle starting for injured Garoppolo vs AZ and loss that game but not by much. He then start another game because Garoppolo again is injured and kept the Niners playoff hope alive by beating the Texans.
What went wrong with Lance is the previous QB coach didn’t develop him, because Garoppolo didn’t improve as a QB either. Had Lance went outside to develop his skills with Mahomes throwing coach a year early, things might be different.
In 2022, the Niners got Brian Griese as the QB coach and who also pushed for in getting Purdy drafted. Griese did say he saw an improvement in Lance this past OTA vs last year.
4:09 breece is almost entirely reliant on the o line to be unleashed. He can't do shit with 3 defenders in his face
I feel really bad for trey Lance, he never got the opportunity like the other first round QBs got.
I like how people say justin fields is far away from the level he and Lawrence are call me crazy but if fields finishes the season strong i think he caught up to lawrence.
I’ll never understand why people keep saying the 49ers traded 3 picks when they literally just traded 2 and SWAPPED picks 🤦🏿♂️
Fields is injured too much, and is too up and down to ever take the Bears to the playoffs. And he has too many INTs and fumbles.
Justin Fields can easily into a top 10 QB. People have no patience when it comes to young QBs drafted in the first round, but Fields has been improving after a rocky start to the year.
Teams ruin a lot of these guys. They obviously take a lot of the blame, but situations matter. Takes a lot to make Mac Jones take the nose dive he did. Wilson came into the league without another QB on the opening day roster that had ever thrown an NFL pass, a first year OC, a first year QB coach, and a defensive minded head coach. Who exactly was supposed to help him learn? He was obviously not a Stroud, Luck, or Manning type prospect and was going to need some work.
when you look at the jets they did almost everything right, built a defense, running game etc and had a QB on a team friendly 5 year deal. sad it didn't pan out. side note, they put shitty coaches in place to bring Wilson along.
edit: ALMOST, they almost did everything right!
What happened to Mac Jones is criminal. Dude looked like the best QB from the Class in his rookie season, but due to the circumstances everyone is aware of right now, he’s fallen big time. Sucks to see.
The issue with Mac is coaching.
His poor decision making and play is the issue. Have you watched any of the games lately?
@@jasonlejuan975 with the cluster around him. Even good veterans would be making bad decisions. Dudes been given a bad offense. And horrific coaching. When he had a good OC he played very well. I think if you get this kid in a good and stable system. You will get a solid QB. Not top five or anything. But a solid dependable QB.
1. The thing with Zach Wilson is .. he has to be mobile and in that role, he has to be accurate throwing while on the run. He is unsuccessful "off schedule". That's pretty much it. That is a guy who's ceiling SHOULD be mobile Taylor Heinicke. He isn't.
2. Mac Jones finished 2nd for ROTY .. 10 TD 10 INT isn't good - but he lost OC Josh McDaniels - and that dude NEVER should've left New England. I think jury is still out, tbh
3. Lawrence had Head coach Urban Meyer .. that being said , I agree . I just think he needs better accuracy in the red zone and I think he'll turn the corner SOME HOW. I kind of think he gets over the hump next year.
4. Trey Lance should've gone back to school. 3 first round picks were ridiculous and the Niners LUCKED the hell out with Mr Irrelevant Brock Purdy.
5. Justin Fields - the jury is still out, but he has to stop the "hero ball." .. holds on to the ball way too much.
Why do people keep saying the niners gave up 3 first round picks? Lmao they traded two picks and had a pick swap.
Trey Lance should be a falcon
Only thing i can say for Wilson is its not his fault the Jets drafted him #2. Idk why they thought this was a good idea, but he was never gonna live up to that
This draft class really did get screwed with their development. Besides Trey, they all kinda got thrown into the fire year 1
I'm surprised Wilson's completion pct is over 50.0%.
Think all these guys well not Trevor but think maybe the others guys on this list need a fresh restart on different teams
I thought Mad Jones was on his way to become an Andy Dalton qb but I gave him way too much credit lol
He’s still Andy Dalton