My mom had OCD and would obsessively clean just like this, minus the abuse. She would hyperventilate and cry before guests would come over because she wouldn’t think the house was clean enough, even if it was spotless. It’s sad how unaware people are about the seriousness of mental illnesses and how they can ruin your life
You're lucky! With MINE, I GOT the abuse. With HER ocd she used to pull every plug in the house before going to bed. Back in the day before memory retention in VCR/DVD players, I would have to reprogram the things each time I wanted to watch a movie.
I pulled that with my husband once. He vacuumed in the living room, but didn’t move the subwoofer. I started to move the subwoofer, and I did the whole Joan Crawford routine. He goes “I’m sorry, Miss Crawford.” I said “I’m not mad at you, I’m mad at the dirt.” 🤣🤣🤣
Ma che stai a dire .... ! Secondo te una ragazzina di 9 anni come doveva recitare in questo film....! Come una grandissima attrice con anni di studio esperienza...! 😂
The actress who played young Christina is phenomenal. My gosh I just wanna give her a big hug and protect her even though this movie is older than I am!
I agree!! I was tearing up in awe of her acting til she said Jesus Christ and I was hoping she was about to pray but nope she was exclaiming like an adult would. It felt weird and kinda ruined it.
“I don’t understand.” Her face as she looks at Joan after being told to clean the mess she didn’t make “How...?” “Figure it out.” Followed by the fear and guilt of her brother offering to help something he wasn’t involved in 4:14 “Jesus Christ...” The sheer absurdity and intense distress after such an experience leaves her speechless, afraid, in shock, and ashamed. Every bit of expression in this sequence is terrifyingly accurate. She’s in tears and yet is baffled by what just happened.
It's a shame that people think this is bad acting because this is exactly what many parts of my childhood was like. This is how narcissists act. Everything is a million times more dramatic than it really is to the point where it's just absolutely ridiculous.
My mum is diagnosed bipolar and OCD and it is literally like looking in a mirror. These manic episodes are so typical of someone with bipolar disorder. It’s a shame back in those days it wasn’t talked about and no one really had a name for it
You're not alone dude. My mother was so much like Joan in this movie it scares me. Only no one, including my father and her own mother, did anything about it. And they knew about such mental disorders by then. She died in 1995.
That’s why I give more credit to Christina. It’s so funny how Joan’s former co-stars were defending her when it’s like, she would never treat her co stars like this
@anakin skyfucker lol hey I agree with that part though. How the principal gonna tell the parent she's overreacting about her own daughter who was about to have sex at their institution lol smdh I honestly would have took my daughter from there too with that principal acting like it's no big deal. I'm a female but I know any father would be pissed too if it's their daughter
@@Face_Reality I don't blame her either. She was paying the maid good money to do a job and she didn't do it properly. I've been there myself with the cleaners I have hired over the last couple of years. Lazy lazy lazy.
I had an abusive ex-partner like this. Obsessed with cleanliness, wouldn't let me work, made me clean the house all day every day, and there was hell to pay if it wasn't good enough. Finally kicked me out in 2016, then two days later came crying and begging me to come back. I went: "Hell no. Peace out." Never looked back.
Same and I couldn't talk to other males either or I was a tramp the dinners had to be done by a certain time and the house was always spotless cuz God forbid it wasn't
Good for you!!! I'm trying so hard to leave for me it's a bit more complicated because it's a parent. The economy is so bad that it's impossible to move out so I'm trying hard to move out of the country.
The part where Tina says "Jesus Christ" just goes to show how bad things are. Kids dont ever really say that and a child is actually imitating an adult because she's been forced to be older than she is. It's quite heartbreaking.
Kyle, I am from Romania/Europe, a post communist country. Believe me I know what rough life really means and I am fed up with all these celebrities' children whose lives were/are always "such an awful trauma" growing up with the world at their feet. Of course we have no means to find out what really happened there, but a simple question comes to mind. If this was the case, why didn't she speak up her truth while JC was still alive ? We will never know for sure, will we ?! But there is something we do know. That book brought a pile of money to a disenherited daughter.
Yeah my rich grandma is a narcisist and verbally abusive old fart. I spat on her coffee, scratched her car, and wished her a slow and painful death. She made me water her plants on a daily basis, mopped her floor, wash dishes, dusting and what not. I once dropped her bottle perfume on purpose and blamed it on my uncle's cat. I ruined one of her precious dress and the housekeeper took the blame, she got paid for doing all tbose shit but I didn't. If she died I'm gonna pee on her grave. I fucking hate her.
@@kaysdash8556 You shouldn't do things like that. Be destructive. You should feel sorry for her. You should remain scarce given the situation, but retaliating that way is simply wrong. She's an old woman. She could have dementia. You don't know. And don't piss on her grave. That's just wrong. You need to have respect for the dead. Remember, once she's dead, she can't hurt you anymore.
@@retroguy9494 In an ideal world you might be right as rain 100% ,she is now an old lady, she wasn't that old back then.. She's now a manipulative old hag.. She ain't dead yet I wish she was.. When she dies I make my peace n rest my case with her.. I live far away from her now, I never called her, I only visited her once after 10 years not talking to her, she is a frail old lady waiting to slide away to her grave. She treated EVERYONE in her family like we're trash. I tried to love her but I just couldn't.
@@kaysdash8556 I really hope (and pray) that when she is no longer with us that you can not only find peace, but find something about her that will allow you to have some love for her. There has to be a specific reason she treated everyone as you say she did. Perhaps physiological or psychological. When its that bad, very rarely is it willfully deliberate.
My mom was like this. And because I was the oldest and always stood up for my younger sister and twin brothers, I was always getting slapped or punched. She tried that shit on me when I was 16 and I shoved her into a door. I'm now 39. I stopped communicating with my mom at 17 and we only recently got back in touch three years ago. I've had four kids since then and she has yet to meet any of them. Don't trust her around them. This scene reminds me so much of her: neurotic and bipolar as fuck. Fuck that bathroom floor.
Who the hell uses abrasive cleanser on a floor? It'll leave a residue. Also, great job on dragging that potted tree. Scratch up that floor why don't you?
She used "Old Dutch Cleanser", which was specifically formulated for tile and linoleum floors, so as not to scratch them. It's still manufactured today, and it's a very fine powder with very little abrasives in it.
If you read the actual book "Mommie Dearest" (and I did) Christina said it DID in fact leave first a thick paste and then a residue and she literally spent HOURS cleaning it because she had to wash the floor several times to get it all up. She said it was morning by the time she actually got the floor clean!
If this movie was realised today it would have been a hit. At that time mental illness and childhood trauma were considered as a taboo and made fun of. Plus the controversial aspect of a Hollywood star’s life. Sad this movie didn’t do that well.
Sargent Crawford . Some people (parents churches schools) I grew up with operated like a military . I feel the little girls pain . Joan doesn’t even know she is doing it. For she was damaged as a child. You pass it on . You have the power to stop it. Break curses in family trees and to get the help you need if needed . Choice. Life is a balance . You can go too far either way.
Yes it sucks Joan did not become conscious while she was alive & finally acknowledge & apologize for the trauma she inflicted... Hopefully Christina & the deceased family have found peace
reminds me a lot of my mother....when she was not happy with how i cleaned my room she would empty all the shelves and cabinets, throw everything on the floor and tell me to start over
My mother threw out my entire comic book collection (about 50 comics) that I bought with paper route money when I was just 14 because she was a religious born-again freak who thought Superman comics were "Satanic". She went through this phase of religious zealotry and craziness from when I was 12 to 17 or 18.
I've heard more than one friend and or guest of the Crawford household give testimony that it wasn't comfortable being there because of Joan's obvious OCD and the way she insisted on the most utmost perfection from her children. There was a creepy, sadistic and sickening way to her method of abuse towards Christina and Christopher that was also witnessed by these people. But her need for perfection was really only the tip of the ice berg. It's certainly not easy to live with a parent who has Obsessive Compulsive Disorder but not all of them are abusive. It was Joan's narcissism, her own pain, alcoholism and probably other issues we'll never know the root cause of that made her treat her children the way that she did. I don't doubt Joan wanted children and wanted to love them but children begin to have minds of their own at a young age and they make noise and get dirty and make mistakes...That wasn't something Joan could handle or control. I believe a friend of Joan Crawford's summed it up best by saying that Joan wanted to know what it was to be a mother, she wanted that fulfillment of having a baby but it wasn't best for her to be a mother.
My sister is like this minus the hitting ..her adult kids resent her to this day .. she would sweep the floor endless number of times a day .. closed the kitchen to everyone in evening .. if anything was dropped on floor .. she would make them feel like trash .. she controlled every movement in every room just by fear …. She monitored snacks . If glassware was moved .. napkins touched .. cushions moved .. it was creepy.. if anyone said chill she would snap
@@AlastorsShadowDemon Well, we would call that "campy." Or at least that's what gay men say which is why they love the movie. But if you read the book and watch some interviews, as The Raven said, Joan was really like that. She was an over the top campy woman who was always acting.
@@christinamercurio570 ignore him in another comments he said he was abused himselves by his mother & he defended hisself so thinks that Christina & other kids should too. hes an idiot let him be
Whether anything in that book or in this movie really happened it is such a well acted film. It is so honestly accurate to how abusive people can be to their kids. Which is so sad because the fact it feels so real is what makes it so disturbing.
To be fair, there are many lazy people in the world that do not do the simple things you ask them to do unless you are screaming at them. When Joan hit Christina and said “you love making me hit you” I related. My mom was a very low-motivation person and many times I would do what ever she asked me to do, but when I needed her to do something for me, she would either say she would do it and never do it, or do it so badly that it embarrassed me in front of people that were important to me. If I screamed at her when no one was looking and made her feel bad, that problem didn’t happen again. She always knew how to do it well, she just didn’t have the motivation to do it well unless she knew she would get screamed at if it was done poorly. She screamed at me plenty of times so it was acceptable. Some people are stubborn and don’t care that they are embarrassing you - you have to come down hard on them.
@@allengreene9954 She apparently thought they would be useful for publicity. Bing Crosby used to trot his boys around to show he was an everyday wholesome dad.
There were streaks on it... She had ocd... But then again, a lot of people hate soap streaks so... When you use stuff like comet, it leaves a residue if you don't rinse it thoroughly... So it left white streaks on the floor.
This is what Christina called in the book "The Night Raids." This was actually two of those incidents in one scene. In the book, the coat hanger incident and the floor cleaner incident happened individually. The coat hanger incident didn't happen in the way the film portrayed it, in the book Joan basically trashes Christina's closet and bedroom, after that she grabbed her and dumped her into the floor telling her to clean up the mess and stormed out. The floor cleaner incident actually happened in Joan's dressing room, not in the bathroom.
@@Face_Reality no, there were not streaks on it. The point of this scene was to show joan's ridiculous coping methods of storing up all anger and frustration at the world, only to throw it all out onto her own children. This looks to me more like a psychotic disease rather than a mere and simple ocd syndrome. Plenty of people have ocd, and they do not abuse their children like this.
My Aunt Fussed at me when she came to my Mom's house the same way Faye did as Joan in this scene. Who scrubs floors with rags these are modern day, not 1950's. I wouldn't scrub my floors, that's is why swiffer mop was invented.
This is what happens when a single mom gets royally fed up snd starts guzzling vodka once she puts her children to sleep so she can ‘relax’. Lived it. Still makes me laugh tho. 😂🤣😂🤣
my 1st grade teacher was Joan Jr. every Friday was desk inspection day and if it didn't meet her requirements - BAM on the back of the head. this was when teachers could do that and nobody thought twice. Joan would have loved her.
I keep seeing how she looks like me as a child. Alabaster skin, curly white hair, blue eyes, petite and sensitive. I was about 9 when this movie came out. It must have devastated my mother.
lol Joan Crawford scrubs floors in 6 inch pumps haha in the middle of the night she thought she'd go thru Christina's closet looking for something to carry on about lol finding wire hangers then inventing in her warped mind that the floor wasn't clean
That was such a key scene in Christina Crawford's book that I'm surprised the prop people got the wrong brand of powdered cleanser. In the book it was a large can of BON AMI scouring powder, not Old Dutch Cleanser! 1:38
My grandmother happened to work for Miss Crawford and said she really liked it all sparking clean but she was never spiteful to anyone. She was a classy lady.
We dont know the truth, this movie was turned into a soap opera even tina said. However, thing to Joan's childhood. Her father abandoned her, she was bullied, dirt poor, her step daddy was a fraud, she was sexually assaulted for years thinking he was her real father, her mother didn't care if she lived or died and blamed Joan for the abuse. She was so poor she cleaned extremely for other people to meet a minimum wage if not lower. She was assaulted and even thrown down the stairs of one of the homes she cleaned in. Once SHE was a poor little girl. I believe she wasnt a good mother and she's a cunt for what she put them kids through. However, I cant really blame her. She was so destroyed by the age of 11, FUCKING 11. She thought being young and famous would make her exempt from the abuse she receive. She thought people would love her, and they did, but that wound of hurt could never been sewn shut. She never recovered. Her trauma was severely complex and alcoholism took over in her later years. Crawford sadly didn't know real mothering. She wasn't a MONSTER inherently. She was broken. If anyone, blame her own mum. ❤❤
In a weird way, I put myself in crazy Joan Crawford's shoes when I am mad about something. Uncleaniness is the top thing that I would take it out on. Once the pandemic hit, along with increased sanitation, I even take it out on uncleaniness at my workplace. NO STRINGS ATTACHED. I get a pleasure out of doing that from time to time. I won't even mention how badly the bush on my patio suffered when I used my mom's bush trimmer for the first time. And I would do it again.
I can relate alot, my own mother can't see one dirty spoon in the kitchen and she blows up, I use a plate and she brings hell's on me but she never said anything to my brother that got 3 women pregnant and I get the blame for a dirty dish.
No.. the Academy said her performance was too "over-the-top", which Faye Dunaway blames on the director not reigning in her over-the-top acting. The director said years later that he was just too fascinating watching her performance to have her calm it down some. Also, because this became a "cult" film very quickly after it's release, the Academy would not even consider her for an Oscar because they felt, at the time, it would have been beneath their dignity to consider even the thought of giving her one.
There were streaks on the bathroom floor... She had ocd... But then again, a lot of people hate soap streaks so... When you use stuff like comet, it leaves a residue if you don't rinse it thoroughly... So it left white streaks on the floor.
She wasn't using Comet. Joan Crawford was fond of "Old Dutch Cleanser" which was specifically formulated for tile and linoleum floors, so as not to scratch them. It's still manufactured today, and it's a very fine powder with very little abrasives in it, and would wash up much nicer than other abravises. Comet is very abrasive and would have scratched the shit outta that floor and certainly left streaks, for sure.
She wasn't using Comet. Joan Crawford was fond of "Old Dutch Cleanser" which was specifically formulated for tile and linoleum floors, so as not to scratch them. It's still manufactured today, and it's a very fine powder with very little abrasives in it. Comet is very abrasive and would have scratched the shit outta that floor.
Good Point but it's funny how the powder between the 2 look close and it still would have made for a good commercial if either "Old Dutch Cleanser" or any cleaning company would have jumped on it.
I get freaked out on my apartment being clean, especially if my mother in law visits. She's filthy and leaves shit marks on the toilet seat, nor does she wash her hands. It's quite repulsive.
The ultimate irony of all of this is that after Joan Crawford died, she was cremated. So literally she became dust; the very thing she hated so much!
lol
But cremation is what she wanted. It was in her instructions.
@@retroguy9494lol
@@camilleadams6485 Is true! Maybe it was so she could perpetually stay mad at the dirt! 😜
@@retroguy9494 LOLOLOL
My mom had OCD and would obsessively clean just like this, minus the abuse. She would hyperventilate and cry before guests would come over because she wouldn’t think the house was clean enough, even if it was spotless. It’s sad how unaware people are about the seriousness of mental illnesses and how they can ruin your life
You're lucky! With MINE, I GOT the abuse. With HER ocd she used to pull every plug in the house before going to bed. Back in the day before memory retention in VCR/DVD players, I would have to reprogram the things each time I wanted to watch a movie.
Mom: Oh my....I apologize for the way things look around here.
Guest (glances around at a spotless house).
Same! Im not as bad as my mom, but I get into "company is coming" mode whenever I have people over when it probably doesn't matter.
I pulled that with my husband once. He vacuumed in the living room, but didn’t move the subwoofer. I started to move the subwoofer, and I did the whole Joan Crawford routine.
He goes “I’m sorry, Miss Crawford.”
I said “I’m not mad at you, I’m mad at the dirt.”
🤣🤣🤣
THATS FRIGGIN HYSTERICAL!!
I LIKE that. It sounds like you 2 have a really good relationship and can laugh at these minor little things.
"when you vacuum the living room you have to move the subwoofer!" funny as hell.
😂
That’s adorable omg
That little girl ACTED THE SHITT outta that part
"Jesus Christ!" Amen, kid. Mara Hobel's best like in the movie.
Yes, she did
Ma che stai a dire .... ! Secondo te una ragazzina di 9 anni come doveva recitare in questo film....! Come una grandissima attrice con anni di studio esperienza...! 😂
The actress who played young Christina is phenomenal. My gosh I just wanna give her a big hug and protect her even though this movie is older than I am!
Yes, Mara Hobel did an EXCELLENT job for someone so young. She's very talented.
I agree!! I was tearing up in awe of her acting til she said Jesus Christ and I was hoping she was about to pray but nope she was exclaiming like an adult would. It felt weird and kinda ruined it.
@@horrorjunkie96 But kids pick up language they hear adults at home say.
@@SmidBeach that was bad writing.
@@horrorjunkie96 yeah the scriptwriters really messed up with that and the director let it stand.
My mom must have taken cleaning lessons from her, lol.
So did mine
TV247 mine was like that too. I never remember any of our homes being messy or dirty.
Ditto
Wtf
Omfg samee😂😂
That young girl is a phenomenal actress
Mara Hobel. Aside from this role she is probably best known for her role as next door neighbor Charlotte Tilden (Molly's older sister) on Roseanne.
That poor girl. She never had children of her own when she grew up. Joan messed her up
She helped raise her stepson. She loved him very much.
joan should never have had children in the first place
She couldn't have children
you are right there, but she was not the right character at all to raise children, whether biological, fostering or adopted
Christina had an ovarian tumor.
"Look at this floor. Do you think this is clean?"
"Miss Jenkins said it was clean."
"MiSs JeNkInS sAiD iT wAs ClEaN."
Richie Beck DO YOU think its clean ?! DO YOU!!!!!
"Scrub Christina...scrub.."
@@leroymccoy9008 Scrub HARD.
Its NOT clean NOTHING is clean this whole place is a meeeeeeeeeeess!
Yes! I do!
When even your German housekeeper isn't conscientious enough for you - no one will be.
Best comment so far!
That's so true
This was long before Mamacita
They are usually clean and neat around the home.
Sandy Weinhold-Right? or Polish housekeeper
“I don’t understand.”
Her face as she looks at Joan after being told to clean the mess she didn’t make
“How...?”
“Figure it out.”
Followed by the fear and guilt of her brother offering to help something he wasn’t involved in
4:14 “Jesus Christ...”
The sheer absurdity and intense distress after such an experience leaves her speechless, afraid, in shock, and ashamed. Every bit of expression in this sequence is terrifyingly accurate. She’s in tears and yet is baffled by what just happened.
It's a shame that people think this is bad acting because this is exactly what many parts of my childhood was like. This is how narcissists act. Everything is a million times more dramatic than it really is to the point where it's just absolutely ridiculous.
My mum is diagnosed bipolar and OCD and it is literally like looking in a mirror. These manic episodes are so typical of someone with bipolar disorder. It’s a shame back in those days it wasn’t talked about and no one really had a name for it
You're not alone dude. My mother was so much like Joan in this movie it scares me. Only no one, including my father and her own mother, did anything about it. And they knew about such mental disorders by then. She died in 1995.
That’s why I give more credit to Christina. It’s so funny how Joan’s former co-stars were defending her when it’s like, she would never treat her co stars like this
Also doesn’t help that scene has been associated with comedy and not taken seriously at the time.
@@rickymiller8539 If you didn't laugh you'd cry.
I lived with that scary behavior for 5 years! the roommate is gone though, I lost the battle but won the War!
"I'm not mad at you, I'm mad at the DIRT." Lmao 😂😂😂
If you really think about it, she really went for the save. She needed Helga and she pulled a good move psychologically.
I’m not mad at you I’m mad at the dirt 😂😂😂
Barbara, please
Anakin, personally...Barbara is probably a bitch
@anakin skyfucker lol hey I agree with that part though. How the principal gonna tell the parent she's overreacting about her own daughter who was about to have sex at their institution lol smdh I honestly would have took my daughter from there too with that principal acting like it's no big deal. I'm a female but I know any father would be pissed too if it's their daughter
@anakin skyfucker IS THIS AN INSTITUTION OF LEARNING OR A TEENAGE BROTHEL??!!! lol 😂
@anakin skyfucker Christina: Why did you tell her I got expelled?!
Joan: BECAUSE YOU DID GET EXPELLED!!!
Lol 😂
0:57 "Helga...When you polish the floor you have to move the Tree"
I don't blame her on this part though. I'm paying you to clean my dog on floor that bih better sparkle and shine lol
I’m not mad at you I’m mad at the dirt
@@Face_Reality I don't blame her either. She was paying the maid good money to do a job and she didn't do it properly. I've been there myself with the cleaners I have hired over the last couple of years. Lazy lazy lazy.
I had an abusive ex-partner like this. Obsessed with cleanliness, wouldn't let me work, made me clean the house all day every day, and there was hell to pay if it wasn't good enough. Finally kicked me out in 2016, then two days later came crying and begging me to come back. I went: "Hell no. Peace out." Never looked back.
Glad you got out!
Same and I couldn't talk to other males either or I was a tramp the dinners had to be done by a certain time and the house was always spotless cuz God forbid it wasn't
Good for you!!! I'm trying so hard to leave for me it's a bit more complicated because it's a parent. The economy is so bad that it's impossible to move out so I'm trying hard to move out of the country.
@@SomethingSomethingg
It’s 5 months later, I hope you found a way out.
The part where Tina says "Jesus Christ" just goes to show how bad things are. Kids dont ever really say that and a child is actually imitating an adult because she's been forced to be older than she is. It's quite heartbreaking.
Poor little girl....my heart is broken
don't her adopt mother burn in hell fuck that bitch
Read the book your heart will break more!
And how do all of you know the book tells the truth ? It was written AFTER the daughter was disenherited by the mother.
@@sandybell1743 who knows!
Kyle,
I am from Romania/Europe, a post communist country. Believe me I know what rough life really means and I am fed up with all these celebrities' children whose lives were/are always "such an awful trauma" growing up with the world at their feet. Of course we have no means to find out what really happened there, but a simple question comes to mind. If this was the case, why didn't she speak up her truth while JC was still alive ? We will never know for sure, will we ?! But there is something we do know. That book brought a pile of money to a disenherited daughter.
4:20: You’ve known you failed as a parent when your own child is saying “Jesus Christ”
What benefit can you have by having a rich mother, if she hates you, abuse you and disowns you?
Yeah my rich grandma is a narcisist and verbally abusive old fart. I spat on her coffee, scratched her car, and wished her a slow and painful death. She made me water her plants on a daily basis, mopped her floor, wash dishes, dusting and what not. I once dropped her bottle perfume on purpose and blamed it on my uncle's cat. I ruined one of her precious dress and the housekeeper took the blame, she got paid for doing all tbose shit but I didn't. If she died I'm gonna pee on her grave. I fucking hate her.
@@kaysdash8556 Damn! Tell us how you really feel. LOL!
@@kaysdash8556 You shouldn't do things like that. Be destructive. You should feel sorry for her. You should remain scarce given the situation, but retaliating that way is simply wrong. She's an old woman. She could have dementia. You don't know. And don't piss on her grave. That's just wrong. You need to have respect for the dead. Remember, once she's dead, she can't hurt you anymore.
@@retroguy9494 In an ideal world you might be right as rain 100% ,she is now an old lady, she wasn't that old back then.. She's now a manipulative old hag.. She ain't dead yet I wish she was.. When she dies I make my peace n rest my case with her.. I live far away from her now, I never called her, I only visited her once after 10 years not talking to her, she is a frail old lady waiting to slide away to her grave. She treated EVERYONE in her family like we're trash. I tried to love her but I just couldn't.
@@kaysdash8556 I really hope (and pray) that when she is no longer with us that you can not only find peace, but find something about her that will allow you to have some love for her. There has to be a specific reason she treated everyone as you say she did. Perhaps physiological or psychological. When its that bad, very rarely is it willfully deliberate.
My mom was like this. And because I was the oldest and always stood up for my younger sister and twin brothers, I was always getting slapped or punched. She tried that shit on me when I was 16 and I shoved her into a door. I'm now 39. I stopped communicating with my mom at 17 and we only recently got back in touch three years ago. I've had four kids since then and she has yet to meet any of them. Don't trust her around them. This scene reminds me so much of her: neurotic and bipolar as fuck. Fuck that bathroom floor.
i sure love the blue tiled bathroom
Lol @ 4:19. When your child says that, especially at that age, you've failed as a parent 😂😂
Reminds me of how I grew up. Crazy parents.
My house would never pass her scrutiny.
DM McHugh nobodies would
Who the hell uses abrasive cleanser on a floor? It'll leave a residue. Also, great job on dragging that potted tree. Scratch up that floor why don't you?
She used "Old Dutch Cleanser", which was specifically formulated for tile and linoleum floors, so as not to scratch them. It's still manufactured today, and it's a very fine powder with very little abrasives in it.
@@hankaustin7091 i didn't know that. That's good to know.
Oh my god...
You're worse than Joan! 😱
My mom used to use old dutch
If you read the actual book "Mommie Dearest" (and I did) Christina said it DID in fact leave first a thick paste and then a residue and she literally spent HOURS cleaning it because she had to wash the floor several times to get it all up. She said it was morning by the time she actually got the floor clean!
If this movie was realised today it would have been a hit. At that time mental illness and childhood trauma were considered as a taboo and made fun of. Plus the controversial aspect of a Hollywood star’s life. Sad this movie didn’t do that well.
I just sent this to my husband. We both love this movie!!
I really love the fact that little guy is trying to help her clean up the floor. Mad respect
Sargent Crawford . Some people (parents churches schools) I grew up with operated like a military . I feel the little girls pain . Joan doesn’t even know she is doing it. For she was damaged as a child. You pass it on . You have the power to stop it. Break curses in family trees and to get the help you need if needed . Choice.
Life is a balance . You can go too far either way.
Yes it sucks Joan did not become conscious while she was alive & finally acknowledge & apologize for the trauma she inflicted... Hopefully Christina & the deceased family have found peace
she did know what she wad doing was wrong at the very least, i hope your not making excuses for her behavior
reminds me a lot of my mother....when she was not happy with how i cleaned my room she would empty all the shelves and cabinets, throw everything on the floor and tell me to start over
My mother threw out my entire comic book collection (about 50 comics) that I bought with paper route money when I was just 14 because she was a religious born-again freak who thought Superman comics were "Satanic". She went through this phase of religious zealotry and craziness from when I was 12 to 17 or 18.
Lier
@@christophergarr2074 denying and invalidating somebody else's perception of reality is called gaslighting. says a lot about your character
Honestly this is a lot like my childhood. My mom is schizophrenic. Like flash backs
Faye Dunaway's crossed / crazy eyes when she says 'Figure it out" are epic..
Sweet christoper even helped to clean up
Too sweet. That boy twisting and all smh
Kamala Harris: “THIS FLOOR IS NOT CLEAN!😤”
Me: “Stop yelling at me😫”
😆😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
I've heard more than one friend and or guest of the Crawford household give testimony that it wasn't comfortable being there because of Joan's obvious OCD and the way she insisted on the most utmost perfection from her children. There was a creepy, sadistic and sickening way to her method of abuse towards Christina and Christopher that was also witnessed by these people. But her need for perfection was really only the tip of the ice berg. It's certainly not easy to live with a parent who has Obsessive Compulsive Disorder but not all of them are abusive. It was Joan's narcissism, her own pain, alcoholism and probably other issues we'll never know the root cause of that made her treat her children the way that she did. I don't doubt Joan wanted children and wanted to love them but children begin to have minds of their own at a young age and they make noise and get dirty and make mistakes...That wasn't something Joan could handle or control. I believe a friend of Joan Crawford's summed it up best by saying that Joan wanted to know what it was to be a mother, she wanted that fulfillment of having a baby but it wasn't best for her to be a mother.
Just a quiet evening at home.
*THE FLOOR IS NOT CLEAN!*
Ms. Jenkins said it was clean.
@@J33-k3s MrS. JeNkInS sAiD iT wAs ClEaN?!
Clap clap for the kid, good actress at such a young age (she's probably old now but yeah)
her name is Mara Hobel, she's 48 years old, and she runs an acting school now.
OLD?????? Geez I hope not! She's younger than ME! LOL!
My way of thinking is if I dont see the dirt it doesnt exist and iI'm not going looking for it
My sister is like this minus the hitting ..her adult kids resent her to this day .. she would sweep the floor endless number of times a day .. closed the kitchen to everyone in evening .. if anything was dropped on floor .. she would make them feel like trash .. she controlled every movement in every room just by fear …. She monitored snacks . If glassware was moved .. napkins touched .. cushions moved .. it was creepy.. if anyone said chill she would snap
This is horrible. Not funny . Great acting bwy ...
Yes, it's horrible... This little girl (i don't remember the name) is a really good actress.
It's not meant to be funny, that's why it's not.
It’s not the situation that’s funny, it’s the over the top acting.
@@AlastorsShadowDemon No. Good acting. Her secretary said (in a UA-cam vid!) Joan was like that!
@@AlastorsShadowDemon Well, we would call that "campy." Or at least that's what gay men say which is why they love the movie. But if you read the book and watch some interviews, as The Raven said, Joan was really like that. She was an over the top campy woman who was always acting.
I know people who are OCD about cleanliness I do not date any woman that has some issue with cleanliness
Smart !
I need Joan to come to my house and clean it...she'd have it spotless lol
She'll beat you with the wire hanger first
joan was crazy as a bat. Lord have mercy....HORRORS OF HELL right here. lol OHHH the horror.
What a horrible thing to say about poor little bats!
You really think so? Geez have you never been screamed at in your life? You’re a cupcake
@@ThingsILikke she was an abusive alcoholic and had a very bad prescription pill addiction plus anger/rage..not a good combo
@@christinamercurio570 ignore him in another comments he said he was abused himselves by his mother & he defended hisself so thinks that Christina & other kids should too. hes an idiot let him be
Whether anything in that book or in this movie really happened it is such a well acted film. It is so honestly accurate to how abusive people can be to their kids. Which is so sad because the fact it feels so real is what makes it so disturbing.
Little girl was a good actress. Joan Crawford needed mental health services 😵😵😵
To be fair, there are many lazy people in the world that do not do the simple things you ask them to do unless you are screaming at them. When Joan hit Christina and said “you love making me hit you” I related. My mom was a very low-motivation person and many times I would do what ever she asked me to do, but when I needed her to do something for me, she would either say she would do it and never do it, or do it so badly that it embarrassed me in front of people that were important to me. If I screamed at her when no one was looking and made her feel bad, that problem didn’t happen again. She always knew how to do it well, she just didn’t have the motivation to do it well unless she knew she would get screamed at if it was done poorly. She screamed at me plenty of times so it was acceptable. Some people are stubborn and don’t care that they are embarrassing you - you have to come down hard on them.
She needed Jesus😆😆😆😆😆
@@ThingsILikke If Joan didn’t want to be embarrassed?? She shouldn’t have adopted those kids🤦🏿🤦🏿🤦🏿🤦🏿🤦🏿
@@allengreene9954 She apparently thought they would be useful for publicity. Bing Crosby used to trot his boys around to show he was an everyday wholesome dad.
This is how I learned to clean Properly.. I’m not mad at you I’m mad at the dirt 🙌🏾
What do you mean by "cleaned Properly"? Why do you have "properly" capitalized?
@@timmiller1954 I mean you have to move everything to clean properly not just top job.
What was she seeing in that bathroom because it looked sparkling clean until she went crazy with the powder cleanser!!!
She was in a delusional state.
There were streaks on it... She had ocd... But then again, a lot of people hate soap streaks so... When you use stuff like comet, it leaves a residue if you don't rinse it thoroughly... So it left white streaks on the floor.
This is what Christina called in the book "The Night Raids." This was actually two of those incidents in one scene. In the book, the coat hanger incident and the floor cleaner incident happened individually. The coat hanger incident didn't happen in the way the film portrayed it, in the book Joan basically trashes Christina's closet and bedroom, after that she grabbed her and dumped her into the floor telling her to clean up the mess and stormed out. The floor cleaner incident actually happened in Joan's dressing room, not in the bathroom.
@@Face_Reality no, there were not streaks on it. The point of this scene was to show joan's ridiculous coping methods of storing up all anger and frustration at the world, only to throw it all out onto her own children. This looks to me more like a psychotic disease rather than a mere and simple ocd syndrome. Plenty of people have ocd, and they do not abuse their children like this.
Kevin Scott she was seeing her own rough childhood and dingy accommodations in it
My sisters like that compulsive everything has to be clean and spotless 😃
My Aunt Fussed at me when she came to my Mom's house the same way Faye did as Joan in this scene. Who scrubs floors with rags these are modern day, not 1950's. I wouldn't scrub my floors, that's is why swiffer mop was invented.
Amen shante! It's like BITCH get yo ass off that NASTY ass Flo and start swiffering! 😂😂😂😂
Swiffers are good to go over the floor for daily cleaning. The floors should still be scrubbed with a good brush and cleaner once a week.
I'm not mad at you, I'm mad at dirt... which means you
This is what happens when a single mom gets royally fed up snd starts guzzling vodka once she puts her children to sleep so she can ‘relax’. Lived it. Still makes me laugh tho. 😂🤣😂🤣
And old Joan drank 100 proof vodka at that!
Me being young and had experienced something like this when i was age 5-9 and it was awful i would get forced to sleep in the garage some nights.
That's awful. I hope you lived in a warm climate area.
Reminds me of my psychotic "family" Thankfully we moved to another country and they never call.
This movie made me cry as a kid
my 1st grade teacher was Joan Jr. every Friday was desk inspection day and if it didn't meet her requirements - BAM on the back of the head. this was when teachers could do that and nobody thought twice. Joan would have loved her.
Time for a chill pill, fantastic acting !!
I keep seeing how she looks like me as a child. Alabaster skin, curly white hair, blue eyes, petite and sensitive. I was about 9 when this movie came out. It must have devastated my mother.
"If you cant do something right, dont do it at all."
Words to live by
No.. sometimes there’s truly times where it’s ok to do something “good enough”.
My partner and I quote this movie all the time 😂
lol Joan Crawford scrubs floors in 6 inch pumps haha in the middle of the night she thought she'd go thru Christina's closet looking for something to carry on about lol finding wire hangers then inventing in her warped mind that the floor wasn't clean
I think she might have had OCD along with other things
Nah, she clearly has a Cluster-B Personality Disorder.
LOL!! ya think!???
@@Mbrace818 yup. She's hardcore cluster B
@@meetdiamond maybe even a covert narcissist
I'm not mad at you I'm mad at the dirt she knew she was lying 😂😂😂😂
That was such a key scene in Christina Crawford's book that I'm surprised the prop people
got the wrong brand of powdered cleanser. In the book it was a large can of BON AMI scouring powder,
not Old Dutch Cleanser! 1:38
Who cares, we get the point.. Cleaning powder... Woop dee friggin doo!!
@@Face_Reality you don't have to be so rude
@@andreahales3005 you don't have to be so soft and sensitive... It's a tough world out there. Toughen up, kid. Lol
@@Face_Reality but the world will never get better if we don't first better ourselves
@@andreahales3005 preach to the choir, Captain Save A Hoe!
My mother is this exact same way. Smh 🙄
You're not alone. Mine was too.
My mother too🤦🏾♂️
My grandmother happened to work for Miss Crawford and said she really liked it all sparking clean but she was never spiteful to anyone. She was a classy lady.
Thanks for sharing that. I'm sure a lot of this film was exaggerated for dramatic effect.
Marco E. Liar !!!!!!
@@GREALER excuse me?
@@GREALER STFU, what is unbelievable about that? It's not like he said his grandma knew Jesus.
I’d like to think she wasn’t and that it wasn’t nearly as bad as in the movie
We dont know the truth, this movie was turned into a soap opera even tina said. However, thing to Joan's childhood. Her father abandoned her, she was bullied, dirt poor, her step daddy was a fraud, she was sexually assaulted for years thinking he was her real father, her mother didn't care if she lived or died and blamed Joan for the abuse. She was so poor she cleaned extremely for other people to meet a minimum wage if not lower. She was assaulted and even thrown down the stairs of one of the homes she cleaned in. Once SHE was a poor little girl. I believe she wasnt a good mother and she's a cunt for what she put them kids through. However, I cant really blame her. She was so destroyed by the age of 11, FUCKING 11. She thought being young and famous would make her exempt from the abuse she receive. She thought people would love her, and they did, but that wound of hurt could never been sewn shut. She never recovered. Her trauma was severely complex and alcoholism took over in her later years. Crawford sadly didn't know real mothering. She wasn't a MONSTER inherently. She was broken. If anyone, blame her own mum. ❤❤
Faye Dunaway did such a good job acting! My mom was the same way lol
So was mine.
I bet Joan would find a Coronavirus cure.....
Why is that? She's not a scientist.
She would scrub the world so clean the virus would just die out. 😂
In a weird way, I put myself in crazy Joan Crawford's shoes when I am mad about something. Uncleaniness is the top thing that I would take it out on. Once the pandemic hit, along with increased sanitation, I even take it out on uncleaniness at my workplace. NO STRINGS ATTACHED. I get a pleasure out of doing that from time to time. I won't even mention how badly the bush on my patio suffered when I used my mom's bush trimmer for the first time. And I would do it again.
4:20
Young Christina - Jesus Christ.
I can relate alot, my own mother can't see one dirty spoon in the kitchen and she blows up, I use a plate and she brings hell's on me but she never said anything to my brother that got 3 women pregnant and I get the blame for a dirty dish.
You are obviously the youngest child.
I mean, youngest male child
@@jaxcaulfield7071 your mother must be a narcissist and your brother the golden child. sadly you must be the scapegoat
This makes me want to hang down my head and cry.
Grow some thick skin why don't you
Face Reality or you can grow to have some empathy. This is a distressing scene, I don’t blame them for wanting to cry
When my manager at work says it's not clean and you have to move something, I'll say, yes, Miss Crawford.
The little girl is so adorable.
This movie is fucking disturbing. Did this woman win an Oscar ??
No.. the Academy said her performance was too "over-the-top", which Faye Dunaway blames on the director not reigning in her over-the-top acting. The director said years later that he was just too fascinating watching her performance to have her calm it down some. Also, because this became a "cult" film very quickly after it's release, the Academy would not even consider her for an Oscar because they felt, at the time, it would have been beneath their dignity to consider even the thought of giving her one.
The house is NEVER clean enough!
The anticipation of knowing she’s going to flip her shit scares me
TINAH..........Bring me the axe!
Hollywood royalty......................
@@retroguy9494
I Should Have Known You'd Know Where to find the boys AND the booze!
@@Billy-dj8zw LOL She was such a hypocrite!
"IF YOU CAN'T DO SOMETHING RIGHT - DON'T DO IT AT ALL"
"...I can HANDLE the SOCKS..."
Best line of the whole movie 😜👍
Oh Uncle GREG!
Crawford's Cleaning Services
The slogan could be "We are not mad at you we are mad at the dirt!"
If there was a chance I would tell her “I think you have done enough.”
The sound effect on that commet is hilarious!
Figure it out,,hahahahah never gets old!! Jesus christ
Did she wipe her hand off with the same towel she used to scrub the floor with??????
There were streaks on the bathroom floor... She had ocd... But then again, a lot of people hate soap streaks so... When you use stuff like comet, it leaves a residue if you don't rinse it thoroughly... So it left white streaks on the floor.
Come on. It's clear that is not the main point, and it was not a mere form of ocd
She wasn't using Comet. Joan Crawford was fond of "Old Dutch Cleanser" which was specifically formulated for tile and linoleum floors, so as not to scratch them. It's still manufactured today, and it's a very fine powder with very little abrasives in it, and would wash up much nicer than other abravises. Comet is very abrasive and would have scratched the shit outta that floor and certainly left streaks, for sure.
My all time favorite
Perfect Parenting
We need more of these parents, In fact I'm not because of this beautiful parenting because it's so sad our children are so sensitive to this.
Joan should have dated Prince Valium rather than 100 proof vodka
Imagine not angry to maid but angry to your kid.......
My mom was like this... 😩
when i watched this when i was little, it made me afraid of my own mother, actually
My mother was just like Joan and I was already afraid of her when this movie came out.
She was right about moving the tree, though. If you want to clean or polish the floor, you must move everything out of the way to do a good job.
that pot looked heavy, Helga looked old - let Joan get her ass down there and move the tree.
@@haintedhouse3052 Or get someone younger to do it.
apparent tension at the workplace when Joan is leading the inspection through the living room
No one:
My mom: CLEAN THE FLOOR RIGHT NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW
Scrub a dub dub dub
I wonder if Comet thought about using this scene for a commercial after this movie.
She wasn't using Comet. Joan Crawford was fond of "Old Dutch Cleanser" which was specifically formulated for tile and linoleum floors, so as not to scratch them. It's still manufactured today, and it's a very fine powder with very little abrasives in it. Comet is very abrasive and would have scratched the shit outta that floor.
Good Point but it's funny how the powder between the 2 look close and it still would have made for a good commercial if either "Old Dutch Cleanser" or any cleaning company would have jumped on it.
IT was 'Bon Ami' they used here. It does not scratch.
@@m.e.d.7997 I use Bon Ami myself. Its still an excellent product and still made here in the USA
I get freaked out on my apartment being clean, especially if my mother in law visits. She's filthy and leaves shit marks on the toilet seat, nor does she wash her hands. It's quite repulsive.
Same but i think this is "reasonable" ocd. When anger, frustration & trauma come into play though it gets more complex