Issa Mamma Drama Saga! MOMMIE DEAREST Movie Reaction, First Time Watching
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- Опубліковано 7 вер 2024
- You might think yo mama's bad, but have you met Joan? If you like aggressive gardening in the dead of night and fashions that'll make you gag, then you'll love this full movie reaction to Mommie Dearest!
Happy Mother's Day 🥰🥰🥰
Fun story: my mom loves this movie and we both have a very dark humor so once, when her and I were fighting when I was a teenager I yelled at her, “I am not one of your FANS!” And we both started cracking up which got me out of a grounding hahaha
My oldest sister and I used to reenact scenes from this movie, which was probably wildly inappropriate since I was 4 years old. However, I could nail the whininess of little Christina like a champ.
Haha my mom and I joke about this movie too. I call her mommy dearest a lot or say “bring me the ax!” We also joke about the actual Joan Crawford movie, Mildred pierce. We’ll randomly say to the other, “you’re cheap and horrible!” My favorite line of the movie hah.
@@lindseystein9676 My favorite scene was when they wrestled for the 10,000 dollar check - "VEEEDA!"
Haha. My mother would sometimes yell "No wire hangers!" And I'd just roll my eyes.
I was watching with my mom once. During the wire hanger scene, I said 'my clothes ain't even on hangers, what you gonna do now bih!' My mom was crying laughing!
TINAAAAAA!!! Bring me the popcorn, Alanda’s on! No but seriously I think I’m gonna blackout, cuz Mommie Dearest and Alanda all in one💜🪓💜🪓💜🪓
Hola zzav
De donde eras??
lmaooo this feels like a full moment that you are here! 😭😭
ZZAVID! Love you!
@@Chuuzus I’m telling you I’m so happy right now😂
Not my UA-cam favorite dropping a comment on my other UA-cam favorite reacting to my Dunaway favorite.
So many worlds of mine colliding 🫠💙
I grew up in the late 60's and 70's and remember how adults talked about child abuse which was a child being burnt by cigarettes or beaten to death. Christina's book got people talking alot about child abuse and made people understand it's not just about being burnt by cigarettes or being beaten to death. It's being hit with any item, being screamed at, called names, ETC. Her book really did change the way Americans think about abuse and parenting. God bless you Christina for helping us understand abuse is about destroying an individual from the outside and inside.
People said this was so “unrealistic” and “could never happen” even though thousands of people had mothers and fathers like this, sometimes even worse. It just shows how much the media and people of the time didn’t have to deal with the reality that some people don’t have perfect home lives
Exactly.
In fact Christina Crawford, the writer of the memoir of which the book is based, had no involvement with the making of the film, and denounced the film as "grotesque" and a work of fiction, specifically stating that Joan never chopped down a tree with an axe, or beat her with a wire hanger as depicted in the film
@@Threeleebird actually Christina hated the movie because it made Joan look a lot less cruel and abusive than what she actually was.
Especially since there were many witnesses that say this is exaggerated -- including her other three children -- oh right, they weren't in the movie because they refused to be part of it.
…and some people shouldn’t be parents.
“Your face looks like an exposed nerve.” This comment took me completely out. 🤣🤣🤣
Yep
She F nailed that line 🤤🤤🤤
I cried
A bit of trivia: Joan Crawford’s drinking was so bad that she showed up at a 10am rehearsal bombed out of her gourd on vodka when she had a guest starring role on an episode of one of Lucille Ball’s television shows. She passed out, and when she came to Lucy fired her. The director was a friend of Joan’s and managed to convince Lucy to rehire her. The episode was filmed and televised, but Lucy said years later it was the worst tv episode she had ever produced.
Wow
"I lost my contract at Warner" "Maybe it's because you can't draw inside your lip line..." I'm DYING haha!
The Library is closed...officially!
It was also because she was an unmanageable bi-atch to everyone and Bette Davis outdid her in talent.
@@darthroden You're not wrong.
Just one of the many, many, many falsehoods in this film. Crawford asked to be let out of her contract with Warners. Actors at that time were becoming independent freelance artists.
@@darthrodenThat's bullsh**. Bette Davis was booted from Warner before Joan Crawford was. Mostly because, just like the rest of Hollywood, WB didn't really care for making great material starring older women. They both suffered that.
I would definitely recommend reacting to What Ever Happened to Baby Jane to get a double dose of Joan Crawford and Bette Davis. It's a phenomenal camp classic
this!!!
Yes!!! I was thinking the exact same thing! Such a great movie
I like that movie. Name a more toxic old lady duo
I concur! Whoa, the fun you could have with that flick blows my mind!
I just saw that movie during the pandemic. It is soooo good!
The only thing I knew about this movie was “TINAAA…. Bring me the axe” from the amount of time ZZAVID has used it💀
I know right🤣🤣🤣🤣
" _Barbara PLEeasse_ .."
LMAO
Zzavid!! I love him
Fun Fact: Joan Crawford was the inspiration for the character design of the Wicked Queen in Disney's Snow White, particularly in the lips and the eyes.
Wow I had no idea I can definitely see it now 🤣
That makes too much sense!🤣
Now we know why.
Wow…didn’t know that. She doesn’t look like the actual Joan C though but more so like Faye Dunaway as Joan
That makes sense!
The strap that Christopher wears to bed is to prevent him from sleepwalking. It's never explained and it's really odd
I have never read any account of him being a sleep walker, though i have read that she may have done it to prevent him from masturbating. I'm not sure if that is true, but given her other actions I fully believe she strapped him down as a means of control.
I’m pretty sure it was to keep him from sleep-wanking, actually.
This movie is a mess for a lot of reasons lol
Have mercy! Why did they have it on the baby version of him though?! I noticed when I was editing that he’s wearing a lil baby harness when Joan passes him off at Christina’s birthday party
@@AlandaParker Maybe it doubles as a leash. Lol
The question EVERYONE asks after watching the movie or reading the book it is based on - “This cannot all possibly be true, right?” For the longest time, Christina Crawford was the only one who ever said it was and she got pilloried for the book, accused of being vindictive for being written out of Joan’s will.
In the mid-2000s, I was watching an AFI special on the 50 Greatest Movie Heroes and Villains and Faye Dunnaway’s performance as Joan made the list as a villain. The surprise was Angela Lansbury was interviewed as part of the segment and she stated almost matter of factly: “The most horrible part is it was all true.” That was the first I ever heard a contemporary of Joan Crawford confirm Christina was, in fact, telling the truth. Take that for what you will.
Yes, it’s camp to the moon, but it’s unbelievably compelling and absolutely tragic. Any survivor of abuse will tell you this is not far off the mark regardless of the fame of the abuser. Hell of a Mother’s Day movie.
As to Joan… well, the trove of movies she left behind is immense and some are quite good. But hard to watch after this, no doubt.
Thanks for the info.
@@reneedennis2011 As I’m fond of saying, useless info for you and yours. Not a knock, I got stuff swimming in my brain that I find fascinating and important that most people are like “Whu?” when I mention it. On the plus side, I kill at Jeopardy and Trivial Pursuit.
You’re welcome!
@@mattperiolat 👍🏾
There was more who appeared on a talk show in the 80s. other stars, who said everything Christina said was true, and they told stories about a birthday party, etc. The clip was on youtube but cannot find it.
I'm an Adoptee & a Survivor of some similar, & some not so similar abuse, & no - it's not far off the mark at all. I don't find anything at all funny or campy about it, myself. Many adopters, or people who got children illegally, are narcissists, &/or have munchausen by proxy syndrome IMO. They get off on the attention they get, for being such "good Samaritan's" to so called less fortunate victims.
"you look like voldemort fresh out the cauldron" bruh i screamed
Joan Crawford was actually able to read Christina’s manuscript before she died, and most people think that was the reason Christina was cut out of the will. Christopher had been in jail at one point, and hadn’t had any interaction with his mother in years. Joan had adopted a total of four children and out of the $2 million estate she left $75,000 each to her 2 youngest daughters, while leaving the rest to different charities. . The 2 younger daughters claim that Christina’s book was all lies, and that Joan was a wonderful mother. But they were too young to witness the abuse the Christopher and Christina received, and in a lot of cases the abuser might not target all of their children. Plus, unlike Christina and Christopher, the 2 younger sisters had Al Steele. So it is possible that joan treated her younger children a lot better.
True. Though I've also read that Christina herself has said that the movie adaptation of her book was "grotesque" and contained parts that were just pure fiction - such as the tree chopping scene, or the bit with the coat hanger. I've never read the book myself, so I have no idea how much the movie differs from the book, but I dare say it's just like Hollywood to exaggerate something to capitalise on some sensationalism.
What do you mean the two youngest sisters « had Alfred Steele »?
@@judethaddeus9856 a father figure around them, he probably gave Joan more stability in her life.
@@heidifedor Or him being around meant she couldn’t abuse them because maybe he was the type of parent/individual to not tolerate that so she treated them better because she knew she kinda couldn’t repeat the same behavior because there’s a second parent around to hold her accountable this time.
@@sharielane I bought a used copy of the book years ago and read it. Obviously a book will have more details than a movie (like Carol Ann being a composite character for all the maids/nannies Joan had over the years) but the biggest omission was the lack of the two youngest daughters whose names I can't remember.
The hilarity of “Mommie Dearest, happy Mother’s Day!” Is not lost on me. I cackled.
A lot of this movie is deliberately hilarious. There's no other way to show such madness that wouldn't make it unwatchable.
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@@AlandaParker 😳 holy crap you replied to my comment. Hi 👋🏻 I Love your content!!
@@dudermcdudeface3674 Unfortunately many women are exactly like this.
there was a deleted scene that showed that carol ann was a super fan of joan that she hired which kinda explains why she looked at her through such rose-tinted glasses
Crawford bequeathed to her two youngest children, Cindy and Cathy, $77,500 each from her $2 million estate.
She explicitly disinherited the two eldest, Christina and Christopher: "It is my intention to make no provision herein for my son, Christopher, or my daughter, Christina, for reasons which are well known to them." Both of them challenged the will and received a $55,000 settlement.
No wonder the other two were like “Christina is lying” like obviously they were on Mommie’s side lol
Wild that nobody could comprehend stuff could have happened before they were adopted. Or that the abuse could have stalled after a certain point as the kids got older.
"Shut the lid on this coffin and cut my check!" may be one of your best quips to date 😂
This gave me LIFE
I lost it at “Eat some raw steak. Get scalped. Clean the floors.”😂
Same lmaoooo 😂
Christina: It's raw
Joan: It's rare
Gordon Ramsey: IT'S F***ING RAW!!!
'Why you takin' a hoe bath?'
My mom callEd it a "cat bath" when I was younger-- she's also the only person I know who calls brothels "cat houses", so now I'm wondering if "cat bath" was her way of saying "hoe bath" to a 10 year old who wasn't allowed to watch pg13 movies but needed a quick wash looooooool.
Hoe bath is said alot in my family because for sone reason my grandma only does them and not regular baths lol
@@victorias1227 I heard the term bird bath
The wire hangers scene. Hits me cause my adopted Mom was very abusive and would legit wake us up in the middle of the night to do this sorta crazy shit.
“This bitch is HULKIN OUT”!!!!! 😂😂😂😂😂 Now that took me out!!!! I’m weak!!!! 😂😂😂😂😂😂
"Your face looks like an exposed nerve." And I just lost my freaking mind at that! 😂😂😂😂 I am howling!
Now that you've seen the worst mother in movie history, you should watch Orphan and see the worst daughter in history
OMG YAAASSSSS
Girl, when she had that paste on her face in the wire hanger scene, she looked like The Joker!! A TOTAL NIGHTMARE!!!
Back then realistically the baby came from an unmarried and or teen mom. They’d take them caz they thought they were unfit parents. They would usually tell the birth mom that her child died. Many times the kids had no idea they were adopted.
I love this movie and would watch it with my mother. She’d joke and say you better not write a book about me. Sadly, I endeared years of abuse from my mother. She loved me deeply but suffers greatly from mental illness and substance abuse. She didn’t have an easy life and incident’s from her past stunted her development. I don’t think she really matured past 16, which was when she had her first marriage. She treated me like a peer and competition. It was extremely difficult because I knew she loved me but she would have changes in her moods that turned her into a different person. I lived in fear and walked on eggshells. You never knew what would set her off. She was also a great liar. I see a lot of my mom in Joan and I related to this movie on so many levels. As an adult I now live with extreme anxiety and PTSD, I also have a lot of animosity and anger towards my mother and some of her family. No one protected me from her and I really believe they didn’t know how truly bad it was but they knew enough. I’m 41 and have a 13 year old daughter now, I couldn’t imagine her ever having to live or experience what I did. I don’t think any child should ever experience this, especially from the person who should cherish them the most.
I’d like to add that my mother’s mental illness was not her fault, I don’t blame her for that. What I do blame her for is her refusal to get help and be accountable. She fought all of her doctors and I spent many years with doctors and law enforcement trying to get her help.
"I'm hoping that the camp will override the horror."
Me: *just starts shaking my head vigorously* 😔
i need to watch this movie ASAP! since zzavid always references it and now you are reacting to it 😭😭🖤 love you so much btw 🖤😭😭
You will love mommy Dearest
Yes, pleaseeeee do. The reaction would be hilarious 😂 and iconic.
The Trifecta!! Alanda, Zzavid and Chuuzus. Bring it on baby! We need a collab.
Please so we can watch your reaction too. Also watch Feud: Bette vs. Joan. So good too!
Fun Fact: Actress Faye Dunaway wasn't proud of this movie. In fact she hated the movie and constantly insists that no mention of Mommy Dearest is made or even asked about in interviews with her.
If I was forced to play a abusive cold character in a movie, I'd want nobody to mention it either.
Wow.
@@dredre_lj2003 She wasn't forced to do this movie, in fact she did it because she had Joan Crawford's approval (I don't mean about the movie because Joan died before the movie was filmed and the book came out, but because she wanted Faye played her) and because she wanted another Oscar. Her husband at the time, Terry O'Neal also worked on the film as a producer.
She hates this movie because it was the coup de grace that doomed her career.
Oh Wooowwww 👀
She’s slowly coming around to it, she made a nod to he movie in her Gucci commercial
Joan (as portrayed in *this* movie) never thinks she’s wrong! That works in the cutthroat world of Hollywood, but it’s devastating for her daughter... That being said, she was FABULOUSLY unapologetic 🤷🏾♂️🤣💯
“No wire hangers!” Was my ringtone for my mom! It was a joke but hysterical when it would go off in the grocery story and other places. Lol
Faye Dunaway has Chinatown, Bonnie & Clyde and Network. All some of strongest movies from the 60s and 70s. And yet, she’s arguably gonna be most remembered for this.
And her most recent pop culture moment was mis announcing La La Land winning best picture at the Oscars. Good lord, not going well for poor Faye 😂
Grey's Anatomy wasted an opportunity for Faye to call Dr. Yang "Christina", but I'm sure Faye had it in her contract not to say it, she hated mommie dearest
"I hope those bony corners stay cracked, bitch" I'm dead!!
We all know the iconic king ZZAVID must be jumping for joy for this reaction, honey! 😘
"Think about the upgrade to your wardrobe!"
You are a treasure. Coming out of lurking to say your reactions are so wonderful. Keep doing what you do.
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Girl this is the perfect example of a Mother’s Day themed horror! DA MESS! 😂😂
The worst
“You know where to find the boys and the booze!” One of the best lines ever!
I guarantee all of Joan's friends & acquaintances during that era were fully aware that she was abusive towards Christina. They may have not known the level of abuse that Joan was dishing out but they definitely knew. Most adults who are aware of abuse towards children or spouses, especially back then, looked the other way. In those days speaking about abuse was considered "taboo". Also keep in mind they were all working in Hollywood, so image was everything
Most of old hollywood actors and friends like myrna loy actually denied all of this
@@ury54 of course because image & reputation is everything.
Most people back during that time were aware of the abuse but said nothing. You're right the level of abuse was unknown but they knew. Infact, at times it was considered to be acceptable and praised or laudable. The majority of parents going from the 1980s all the way back to the 1900s and probably further would be placed in jail today for child abuse. That' was considered to be normal back then. And the people who confessed to being abused by someone or a parent would probably get beat by the person they're trying to get help from, ignored, make light of it "It's your imagination" or I dont' believe that or roll their eyes at you if you told the truth about your situation.
@@adithalee8660 I think you have a slightly exaggerated view of how life was in the 20th century. 😅
Not everyone thinks their mom is the greatest, but it's been very clear that yours really is, Alanda. The way you react towards child characters in movies has always been so protective and caring, it's obvious you learned from the best.
I watched this movie as a kid and totally just remembered being like, that lady is crazy. I remembered all the famous lines. I literally quoted it earlier today. Absolutely over the top and crazy. 😂 Happy Mother's Day, y'all!
I’m so shocked how many people watched this in childhood!!! 😭😭😭
I love your remarks to everything someone says I do the exact same throughout movies 😂 especially the ‘SLAP HER BACK!’ I was begging for her to drop her mama 😂😂😂
I know it’s wrong but I wanted vengeance! 😭😭😭
@@AlandaParker a good old dose of self defence agains mommie dearest would have been so cathartic after all that abuse toward the poor lil bubba’s 🥺❤️
Faye Dunaway thought she was going to get an Oscar for this movie but critics hated it and it has become a camp classic that people love especially the gay community and she has been invited to events dedicated to the movie and she refused to have anything to do with it which is stupid on her part.
Joan actually adopted four children all together, she adopted twin girls as well but they have denied seeing any of the abuse and basically threatened to sue Christina if she included them in her book or the movie. Christopher sadly became an alcoholic and died relatively young. It was never explained in the movie but Christopher was strapped into his bed because he had a sleep Walker. Carol Ann was a super fan who Joan would always see when she was at events and she eventually asked her to work for her which is why she probably turned a blind eye to the things Joan did.
My sister and I had had the same situation in our home. Adopted at 4 and 5, they had a 2 year old [adopted at 6 mos] and a bio teen that were "their children" and then they had us as their scapegoats for abuse. Until they put us back in the system at 16 and 17 once we started standing up to the abuses. Some people...😑
Christopher died of cancer in 2006. He was 63 years old. I think that saying he was young is a bit inaccurate.
I finally have context for Zzavid's "Tina" meme. I haven't watched this movie yet, and I'm glad this was my introduction. I don't think I would have made it through all the mistreatment without you. DAMN, she was a vicious momma. Can't deny the movie's very quotable, wickedly campy charm. Happy mother's day (except for you, Joan, you vile)!
Joan Crawford's most iconic role is the wheelchair bound sister in Whatever Happened To Baby Jane? She costarred with Bette Davis. There's a really good limited series called Fued all about that experience starring Jessica Lange and Susan Sarandon.
The series gets a lot of basic historical facts wrong and should be taken with an assload of salt! As a campy piece of trash entertainment, just a tad bit better than housewives, I suppose it succeeds
If she hasn't seen it already, Alanda should definitely watch Baby Jane. Maybe for Halloween?
@@annalouise3251 yeah, but so does this movie, Christina Crawford says they took a lot of liberties with her book, and the movie are almost wholly inaccurate.
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@@tinastar1972 yes I completely agree lol I enjoy this movie and feud a lot btw. It just irks me when naive or ignorant people take what they are watching as fact, when it really isnt or at least not concrete truth! I'm not a fan of disclaimers, but I think it would be justified for Mommie Dearest 😅
Joan Crawford was OBSESSED with her looks
And she was contracted to her whole life for a while. The studio said times she eats and sleeps. Literally, no word of a lie
"Bitch your face looks like an exposed nerve!" 21:06 LOLLLL, I don't intend to write so many of your hilarious quotes in the comments, but truly you crack me up. 😂.
“Error of my ways? The only error of my ways was letting that bi-- live” 🤣😂💀 great reaction!
“Does Uncle Greg know about your bald baby at home?” 🤣🤣🤣
I love how watching Mommy dearest has become the mother's Day equivalent of watching A Christmas story on Christmas day.
I know someone who watches Fatal Attraction every Valentine’s Day lol
@@CarloisBuriedAlive I need to be friends with this person
I watched that "Christmas Story" movie for the first time several years ago. Shortly afterward I had a nightmare about someone (not me) who has a serious eye injury. I almost never dream about injuries. Then I realize what caused the dream. That line in the movie "you'll shoot your eye out, you'll shoot your eye out!"
@@maryk446 Try watching Carrie - "they're all gonna laugh at you" 😆😆😆
The harness he wears is a "sleep-safe" harness-like device that kept infants secure in their beds, but she made him wear it until he was 12. More than likely, Joan did this so he wouldn't cause trouble in the middle of the night. One time, Joan caught him playing with matches, and held his hands over the fire, causing blisters. He claims that this was the first time he ran away, when he was only 7.
Oh my god! Oh. My. God.
i'm not even done yet but THANK YOU for having normal human reactions to the abuse parts of this movie; i LOVE camp, and i love scenery chewing, but i have a strict one-strike-your-out policy for people who think the wire hangers scene is funny (which is a disturbing amount.) I love all your videos. If you're looking for a Joan Crawford flick to react to, Whatever Happened To Baby Jane is good camp horror.
Whatever Happened to Baby Jane is a good movie.
Ty! There’s is so much stupid lines and stuff in this movie but that scene is not funny at all to me. ( I was adopted, had a bipolar clean freak mother)
I had something very similar happen with the scouring powder, & the woman who was my Adoptive Mother. I can relate to a lot of this unfortunately.
I don’t get people who think this movie is funny. It’s honestly horrifying. Abuse isn’t funny, especially childhood abuse.
It's not the subject that's funny, it's the hubris in Faye Dunaway's performance...it was unintentionally campy.
My mother was narcissistic,
orthorexic, misandric & junctistic--
a nightmare. You're very lucky
to have such a great relationship
with your mother, but this is a terrific
movie pick for you to feature for
Mother's Day, for those of us
who weren't so lucky! Thank you, Alanda!
Next Mother's Day--"Flowers In The Attic".
Laust Cawz + what does junctistic mean? I tried looking it up, but couldn't find anything on it.
@@IChooseJesus9091
Originally on a website I had, which is now defunct. What's below only remains
in a place from which I am unable to
copy & paste a link here without it
being immediately deleted:
We're continually hearing about how
the "Autism Spectrum" is some sort
of devastating disorder/disease/epidemic, etc., etc., but I think there's something much more insidious, biased & deliberate going on. Back in the 1940s, Hans Asperger (which is where we get the "high-functioning" autism term "Asperger's Syndrome") defined autism as "an extreme variant of male intelligence". (Though there are evidently some female autists ... These are also likely the same females who, not so long ago, were referred to as "tomboys"
or being "just like one of the guys".)
More to the point, the word "autism" is
from the Greek root "auto" meaning "self",
which is a fitting reference to how autists
(for better or worse) tend to be more self-driven
& more capable of thinking &/or functioning
independently than non-autists; aside from
that, the most frequent traits among
autists seem to be a pre-occupation
with objects/systems &/or experimentation
with them, specific obsessive interests, conceptualizing/how things work & other
largely masculine tendencies/perspectives.
It's also curious that we haven't been bombarded by hype about "an extreme
variant of female intelligence" being
labeled a "disorder" or "condition".
With this in mind, I propose that such
an extreme, characterized, let's say,
by a fixation on: an inferred amplified importance of social formality/ceremony, etiquette & assimilation; difficulty with &/or indifference to: precise conceptual details; diverse but shallow knowledge of concrete
or abstract systems, rather than narrow
but thorough knowledge of them;
and a pre-occupation with conformist
&/or obsessively "unified" ideals, be declared "junctism" (©2009 LaustCawz), from the Greek/Latin root "junct" meaning "join".
Some other concerns: When autism is portrayed in the media, the autist shown is almost invariably a young Caucasian boy
& the "savior" or "protector" is his
(likely junctist) mother, other such females
(or junctist males), or even whole
like-minded, patronizing autism organizations,
who presumably wish to "cure", "heal", "fight"
or "prevent" autism, which, considering that
autists themselves are apparently
not members of these organizations
(except as the supposed "beneficiaries"),
presents a serious conflict of interests...
Keeping in mind that many of history's greatest innovators are said to be (or to have been) on the "spectrum" and that cooperation & social harmony have their place as well, justice might be better served if autistic personalities (whether manifested in men or women) could be accepted & respected in the same capacity as the more "junctistic" approaches, instead of being demonized; or, conversely, if "junctism" would be acknowledged as a counterpart "disorder".
--LaustCawz
This was a lot! I am not reading the meaning of junctistic. It is entirely too long.
Flowers in the attic is the worst movie ever....there own mother turned against them uhg! So awful...
I totally agree,.... when Christina was a little girl she was emotionally 50 . That wire hanger scene gets me every time..,. truly horrifying . In all though I enjoy most parts of this movie . This was a treat . Thank you Alanda
Still crazy to believe that after Christina's adoption, Joan Crawford got approved about 8 years later to adopt TWO MORE BABIES. That said, those two girls have gone on the record to say Joan treated them very well and they didn't believe the things that Christina wrote about, and even Joan Crawford's rival went on the record to say that Christina's book was trash and filled with lies, though it should be noted that Bette Davis's own daughter publicly said that she abused her as well. It's believable that some of the items in Christina's book may be somewhat fabricated or at least exaggerated (as is common with most memoirs and auto-biographies), but the truth is at least somewhere in the middle. Joan probably mellowed out later in life and treated the younger children much better, Christina, admitting she was a bit of a trouble-maker of a child herself, probably proved too much for perfectionist Joan to deal with, and Joan, dealing with the emotional highs and lows of 3 failed marriages, tumultuous Hollywood acting contracts, constantly having to put on a perfect face, body, clothes, and act for the public, multiple miscarriages, and developing alcoholism, lashed out at Christina, and probably to a lesser extent Christopher, permanently damaging their relationships in the process.
Of course, we also know abusers tend to hide their abusive actions from the public as well as anyone who wouldn't be sympathetic to them, and abusers don't abuse people equally.
This movie became so iconic that leaving someone out of a will is now referred to as being "Mommie Dearested"
I remember watching this when it came out & being shocked that rich kids who should have no worries could be suffering and feel unloved behind closed doors. I fell in love with Christina’s character & this movie stuck with me. It really made me understand that you never knew what someone else could be going through & really changed me. It’s crazy how much a movie can impact a young mind.
The best psycho mommy drama ever!
I remember watching this movie in middle school with my stepmom cause she would always jokingly say “no wire hangers” and I was weirdly fascinated by it. Great reaction boo keep it up
"New wig, new last name" and the Patti LaBelle Christmas special reference has me dying. 🤣🤣
Agreed!
💐🌺“Wishing a very Happy Mother’s Day to all the moms. You are the ones who fill our lives with so much happiness and smiles.”💐🌺
I knew mistakes were made when you said, “It was between this movie, Soul Food and The Stepmom & the other two make me cry.” Well, this one might too but for different reasons 😩🤣 But what a choice for Mothers’s Day! Joan was one part psychopath and one part bad bitty & Christina gave her all the hell she deserved, lol.
You told not one lie!!!! 😭🙏🏾
The only scene that the producer thought they went over the top on is the rose bush/axe scene and they should have pulled her back. So not the wire hangers scene or when she hacks off Christina's hair or when she tackles and chokes Christina, though. Just her attacking an inanimate object was too much...
I saw this as a kid and it definitely wasn’t unrealistic. I’ve known lots of diabolical parents and heard lots of abuse stories from family and friends alike.
I absolutely love your reaction videos. They always give me life
Every week
I really feel like neurotypical people are the ones who perceive this as camp. Growing up the way I did with a mother I have and the similar things I endured, and imparting a lot of that onto me, this was very realistic. It looks overacted etc because people with these issues behave this way. I never viewed it as camp idk...
Nah im mentally ill and its camp
Also way to assume about other people's mental status
So many LOL moments, as always! "This is quite a party...that monkey had a manicure..." 😂
When you said “stuff it in your pinafore!” Omg. That took me OUT! I had to pause it bc I was laughing so hard! 😂😂😂😂 I remember watching this with my Nonna when I was like 16. We rented it when she broke her ankle. We sat and drank red wine and laughed so hard! She barely spoke English so I would have to explain things from time to time and it’s probably one of my fondest memories of my grandmother. 😂😂😂😂
Holy shit your commentary is perfect. Every line is iconic. Every reaction is legendary. Why this vid isn't in the millions baffles me.
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Fun Fact: The woman who denies Joan's adoption application in the film is the REAL Christina Crawford.
NO WAY????
That is a lie
@@brothercinnamon2479 that is NOT a lie. Christina Crawford confirmed it. Some of us were actually alive and don't need to fuck with Google. STFU
Okay! I see you soft lighting, glass of wine, and cute top!
You know how we do 😌💛
“I hope those bony corners stay cracked bitch” I need that framed somewhere
16:20 - I thought she was going to take them into hiding. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I still remember the first time I watched this as a kid, only one word can described this movie:
TRAUMATIZING 😳
I was just looking for this! Can't wait for you to see the MESS!! I once again humbly request you watch Orphan (2009).
Perfect timing. Watched this for the first time yesterday and here you are, blessing us on Mother’s Day. Happy Mother’s Day to all the mothers, maternal/parental figures and givers of life❤️
Right???? Like, she really thinks this 8 year old child is the one that BOUGHT those hangers?
So I have always loved this movie. I grew up with an abusive narcissist for a father who’s only importance in his life was being a sniper. And when he couldn’t do that anymore the abuse got worse. But I don’t have to deal with him anymore myself. But I was re-reading about the movie and the people and the actors playing the people and I found this interesting… Faye dunaway is HATED by everyone she meets haha. But also this…
Christina Crawford has said in interviews that the main reason for writing the book, the straw that broke the camel's back, was that she had spent years and years rebuilding her relationship with Joan at the end of her life. The abuse had stopped; the two were getting along much better at the ending and Christina really believed there was a new level of peace and contrition between the two that resolved a lot of the pain from her childhood. Christina was really ready to let bygones be bygones at this point. But then she said Joan passed away and at the reading of the will, Joan's attorney revealed that Joan had given her nothing. And the symbolism of that gesture, of Joan's attempt to vindictively stick it to her child one last time after Christina spent years and years trying to make amends, this drove Christina over the edge and prompted her to write the book in the first place. It wasn't really the abuse because Christina had sort of forgiven Joan at that point. It was that last venal, petty act of hurting Christina from beyond the grave by denying her in her will that really poured salt on the wound and set all this in motion in the first place. Coincidentally, Christina and Christopher did effectively challenge this last stipulation in Joan's will and this was overturned. Christina did wind up getting part of Joan's estate nonetheless.
I know this movie gets written off by critics for its over the top depictions of abuse but that really do be how it lookin sometimes. especially from a child's point of view. Joan in her bedroom at night screaming about wire hangers so manically is the stuff of nightmares.
ITS HERE ITS HERE!!!! You’re the best, your videos always gives me joy.
Excellent reaction. This was always considered a camp classic, but if you take it seriously, for even a second, it’s pretty terrifying:)
This movie is such a legendary mess. Joan Crawford is such an interesting person with such a fascinating life and rise in Hollywood, and the book is such a harrowing recollection of how dark Joan's demons were and how Christina suffered, endured, and survived abuse, and then this film comes along and is so obviously attempting to go for Oscar gold (and instead end up raking in Razzies), but it ends up making a complete mockery of honestly both of the Crawfords and the very real story and issues present (the majority of the things Joan does and says in this movie are completely made up). It so magnificently misses the mark on nearly every direction it could have and should have taken. That is has managed to live on as the ultimate camp classic is such a strange thing. Funny how even with how messy and bad the movie is, and how unintentionally hysterical it can be, it does have these rare shades of brilliance, specifically from Faye Dunaway.
I'd definitely recommend Be Kind Rewind and Kennie JD's breakdowns of the movie if you want to know more, they both go at it from different angles and both are extremely interesting. BKRewind actually has multiple videos about Joan that delve into her life and career and why she was the way she was, and will explain a lot of questions you have about her in the movie. For example, Joan herself had a childhood of parental and sexual abuse, and she had a very slow ascent into Hollywood, starting with bit parts all the way back in the silent era of film until we get the timeline of this movie, where she was probably at her peak at nearly age 40 which was almost a death sentence of an age to actresses of that era, if that can give context about how hardened she was when we first get introduced to her. As for Christina, she's still alive at 82. She has sort of taken the movie in stride for what it is and has become. She continues to live her life in relative peace, which is probably the best we can all ask for, so god bless her.
Love you Alanda, you're the highlight of my Sundays every Sunday! If you haven't seen it, I would definitely recommend you watch Zola! It came out last year and if you remember, it's based on an iconic twitter thread from years ago. It was SUCH a good time and I know you'd have a blast!
Really wanted to see 'Zola'& watched a couple of wks ago. It was ok(?).🤔 Not what I expected....kinda gross. Definitely worth a watch tho.
Joan was absolutely unhinged in many ways but I don't think she was the caricature put forth in the book moreover the movie. It's fabulously entertaining don't get me wrong but many many people have come forward saying that Christina was absolutely full of it and making things up and she was basically out for revenge since Joan kept her out of the will, an act that Joan only did because she knew already that Christina was writing a tell-all before she died.
These actions were not considered abusive at the time the movie was set. That's why so many turned a blind eye. This book made a lot of people realize children needed more rights.
THIS MOVIE IS ICONIC! 👌
The movie has become a camp classic but if you find Dunaway's interview with James Lipton and it's really the only time she really talks about the film in detail. But I will say, I can't believe the film did not win the Oscar for costume design and set direction because they were all on point for the period it's set in.
Joan Crawford was very vain/insecure and ALWAYS wore gloves, to the point she turned down the Deborah Kerr role in FROM HERE TO ETERNITY because she couldn’t wear gloves on the beach
"I lost my contract at Warner's!"
"Maybe it's because you can't draw inside your lip line?" I'm
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"Did you kidnap a baby?!" You should really watch the movie about Georgia Tann and the Tennessee Children's Home Society. As for this movie, it is so gloriously over the top 1980's, and I watch the heck out of this whenever it was on television. lol
Lmao, she said "I hope those bony corners stay cracked bitch"
LmAO why, why do me like this.
I remember being a little kid watching this movie and the wire hanger scene with all that white stuff on her face terrified me. 😂😂The way she made her daughter scrub the bathroom floor always just scared me. Thank you for bringing my trauma back!😂😂😂
10:35 Joan was really just yelling at herself more than she was at Tina.
Sis your commentary makes every movie watching moment an EXPERIENCE!! I still go back to watch your SCREAM reactions cause theyre just classics & have me ROLLING 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Loved your reaction to this! The drama! The horror… lol Also Kennie JD does a great job breaking this movie down if you wanna look up more info about it. 💗
Here for this Reaction!! You always make my day better 😄
What an unexpected surprise! But a perfect film for you to react to, and like always, I enjoyed every minute of it!
Being born in 1994, for most of my life my only exposure to Joan Crawford was this film, which obviously left me with a very low opinion. Combined with the fact that she was never kind to Marilyn Monroe, a hero of mine, I was far from a fan. But that changed when Ryan Murphy released 'Feud: Bette & Joan' starring Susan Sarandan and Jessica Lange. It was about the legendary feud that existed between Joan Crawford and Bette Davis since the 1930s, and the amazing point in Hollywood history when after a lifetime of feuding they came together to make the incredible horror movie 'Whatever Happened to Baby Jane?' (which started the 'psycho granny' genre). The series made me seek out biographies on her, which not only made me see her in a whole new light, but as a quintessential Hollywood survivor; from the way she was treated by the industry, to her horrific family life that saw her being raped by her step-father from the age of 11 onward. I've also come to really respect her as an actress. Few, then or now, are as expressive and reactive on screen as she was, but never over-the-top. A total titan. If you're interested 'Whatever Happened to Baby Jane', 'Mildred Pierce' (her Oscar winning role), and 'The Women' (a risque for the times 1938 classic, casted entirely with women - even the pet dog lol) are great Joan movies.
As for Christina Crawford and 'Mommie Dearest'... most of Joan's friends and Hollywood colleagues came to her defense after its release (even Bette Davis). Most importantly of all, Joan's two youngest daughters have dismissed Christina's claims and had a close relationship with Joan. My personal assessment is that while Joan was definitely a strict disciplinarian, and probably wasn't an easy person to grow up with, her parenting style was likely no more worse than any other parent of the 1940s and 50s. No saint by any means, but certainly not the monster portrayed in 'Mommie Dearest'. She certainly deserves better than this being how most people remember her.
If you'd like to in find out more but don't want to commit to reading a biography, I'd highly recommend watching 'Feud', which deservedly got sensational reviews. With its 'warts and all' style, filled with amazing bitchy one liners and heartwarming scenes, it's really one of those "you'll laugh and you'll cry" shows. Also the audiobook of Joan's "autobiography" is on UA-cam. It's an often unintentionally funny listen, that sways back and forth between Joan recollecting past memories, to giving advice on how to host a great dinner party, to how she wishes hippies would wash more and have better style lol.
your reactions always always make my day. thank you for being such a lovely person
I’ve become so addicted to this channel over the last several days lol