This video is 8 years old... god Coming home late and watching Vsauce and Vertasium was one of the best periods of my life... Vertasium still makes good content and so does Vsauce.
@@realitynowassigned it's physics, Theoretical, Thermodynamics, Relavtivistics, Quantum Mechanics and I'm sure other types of physics would be involved. It goes way way beyond "logical" unless your name is Spock. It's science not logic.
How do I know I won't wake up as Micheal Stevens tomorrow, but with all his memory and his soul, so I will think I'm Micheal Stevens, and no one will know?
+HarmonicSymphony hmm seems like a pretty aggressive statement, maybe defensive. I don't know because I haven't read the previous comment..... You have just become my experiment.
I can't believe I somehow missed this video by two of my favorite UA-camrs for 9 years. Thanks for nothing algorithm. This was amazing and single-handedly changed my stance on determinism and free will. My mind is blown. It makes so much sense.
@@TNRPISIQ I'm not entirely sure. Previously I was firmly in the determinism camp of believing there was no free will. Now I find myself leaning towards believing exactly what Derek outlined at the end of the video here. That random quantum events in our brain/body could be a form of free will, that not everything is absolutely predetermined. Though of course there is still the question of who is in control of that pseudo "free will" since it's been shown that one can predict the choices we'll make before we consciously make those choices. So perhaps there is still no free will, no real "choice" being made, but it's also not fully predetermined, there's quantum random chance involved and our brains make up a narrative to match that random choice and make us feel like we made that choice to give us agency in our story. Regardless, I'm fascinated by thinking about this all in a fresh new way now.
@@beegemanare quantum events truly random or are we not fully advanced to calculate that? thousands of years ago, the people might have thought the moon and it's position sky as random and here we are traveling to moon. My belief is we can't truly stick to one theory at this point. universe may be deterministic or not. I personally believe it's deterministic. but I also believe it's not deterministic so that I can somehow feel I control my life with the free will I have.
To be clear, by "free will" I mean that your decisions could not be predicted with certainty, even if someone knew everything about all the particles that make up your body. I am not suggesting you have conscious control over your decisions as even current research shows we become conscious of choices *after* we make them. I've given my view on the quantum measurement problem but it's called a problem for a reason. No one has it fully worked out quite yet (or maybe this is as fully as it can be worked out). I am not saying that determinism is certainly false, but our scientific theories and observations as they stand today imply that new information is being generated in the universe and this makes it impossible to predict the future with certainty. Some day this view may be overturned. To me, for now, time looks like a zipper. Far in the future the possibilities are wide open, but with every passing second time zips up what might be into what actually happened.
Awesome Video! I'm not an expert but how is the second law of thermodynamics is proven in universal scale?(6:37-- "It'd take more information to specify the state of universe now rather than right after Big Bang")
I love the fact that Vsauce is in this video, makes it even more fun and enjoyable! Also liked the cat in the background: 3:52! Keep up the great work! I am also a bit new to this channel, and I love the way you explain everything.
It's everything I've thought about free will versus determinism since I was 16 and shed my naive deterministic model of the universe, only with more theoretical grounding than I had available.
Don't panic too much. They are getting a lot of this wrong. The second law of thermodynamics isn't actually a law. It contradicts with Newton's second law, which is a law. The second law of thermodynamics is more of a mathematical approximation. Also thermodynamic entropy and information entropy are _not_ the same thing. In some ways they are each others opposites, in other ways they are completely different things. Source: I've studied my fair share of information theory and thermodynamics in university.
Yeah you shouldn’t get too depressed until you realise that there’s a 1 in a billion chance that we are real in a low dimensional plane where virtual higher dimensional beings are gods to gods of gods
Given quantum entanglement, you can assign a probability distribution to all possible outcomes and theoretically still "know" every position and momentum for every particle.
"Everything would be predictable. Even human behavior." So, you could finally understand how your woman thinks? Really? It's pretty clear that hypothesis is wrong.
I watch this video, it tells me to go watch the vsauce video. I watch the vsauce video and it sends me here... 7 years later, I am still trapped in this loop. Save me.
Both of the producer's behind this video deserve more than compensation for creating such insightful and meaningful content over the years. I seriously feel enlightened after watching both of your channels. Oh, note worthy, along with this video, are Smarter Every Day - Destin and that Physics Girl - Diana.
+Veritasium Around 5:50 about the argument "against a Laplace-deterministic universe". The fact that entropy increases has nothing to do with the fact the universe is deterministic or not: by example, if you assume our universe is restricted (physically and by its laws) to a single volume in which there is a perfect gas (small balls moving independently and bouncing at the volume limits) you have a perfectly deterministic and reversible universe but nevertheless you'll observe macroscopic phenomenon that still happen in only one direction: the diffusion of such a gas in the volume. The reasons are statistical. The entropy of the diluted state is thus strictly higher than the entropy of the same gas concentrated somewhere in our finite volume. And so as it's possible to built the laws of such deterministic universe in which we can still talk about entropy and second principle of thermodynamics, it rules out any argument saying this mechanism proves we live in a undeterministic universe.
Of course information is different from entropy. Both notions are related but not indentical. If we stay vague we could also say that information is energy, there are also a lot of common points in both notions. Entropy is by definition (it's existence is postulated) a state fonction (meaning it's depending only on the other mascroscopical functions like, volume, temperature etc...) that evolves in only one way. The best interpretation of entropy is the interpretation of Boltzmann: for a macroscopical state of a system correspond a large number of microscopical states, the entropy is a measure of the extent of this set of microscopical states. Imagine a bag containing positiv integers, imagine that the only thing we know macroscopically about this bag is the sum of all numbers. If I tell you then that this sum is 0 you know there is only one microscopic state that achieve that. If the sum is 1, there is n possible microscopic states, and if the sum is 10 a lot of possible microscopic states. Thus those 3 exemples are of increasing entropy. The Boltzman formula is Entropy = k log(W) where W is the number of micro states.
@Justin schaffold: And you are totally missing my point right? The aim here is just to give an example of an imaginary perfectly deterministic and reversible universe. If you do not like boundaries (and I am wondering why) you can remove them and imagine an infinite universe, or if you prefer an hyperspherical universe or whatever. I illustrate the fact that in such a universe, entropy could still be defined, and the augmentation of entropy principle would still hold. As such a universe is designed to be deterministic and reversible I just highlight the fact that the notion of entropy has absolutely nothing to do with quantum randomness, it's a statistical and emmergent notion that can exist either in deterministic or non deterministic universe. And so I am against the use of it to show anything about the determinism or non-determinism of our universe.
Every now and then I stop by again and watch this video. I still remember when it was released. It's genuinely one of my favourite videos on the entire internet
THIS ONE BLEW MY MIND! It makes so much sense. It has never once occurred to me ever that disorder is actually information in it's purest form, and even more so, it can be useful information. I mean your initial instinct would be that disorder has no information but the opposite is actually true. This video really enlightened me. Learned something new today.
"Information" in the usual sense is the ability to predict the future. If I have information about your school schedule, I can predict where to meet you at any given time. Shannon information is the opposite: the event (finding you in a particular classroom) is the surprising part, from which with enough repetitions you can deduce a schedule.
After 10 years, I can still say that no individual thing has changed the trajectory of my life as significantly as this collaboration for randomness videos by Vsauce and Veratasium. The ideas and concepts discussed here have influenced the furthest reaches of my life almost every day since first watching it back in 2014. It's not that the details of this video gave me any sort of change of perspective on any sort of spiritual or inspirational level, but this video made me think about things differently. Thank you Vsauce and Veritasium teams. ...and thank you James Gleick, Claude Shannon, Charles Babbage, Ada Lovelace, and so many more!
The thing about these UA-cam channels like veritasium, vsauce, physics girls etc. Is that the don't feel like yt channels they feel like tv shows . They give me some sort of nostalgic feeling
Bro you forgot a legendary channel called "kosmo" It reveals unimaginable truth about universe such a way you won't expect Also they uploads video duration of 1-2 hours so it's better to watch them instead of some dramatic stupidic cringe movie
This is one of those videos that continues to give me goosebumps whenever I watch it. Brilliantly composed and articulated. Hats off to Veritasium and Vsauce.
This is actually my favorite video of yours, as it touches the philosophical realm with scientific means. Can you please make more science-based videos illuminating philosophical questions? The real mystery lies beyond the positive statements of science (Wittgenstein).
P64 Blue btw still appreciate the thought and effort you put into your comment and I didn’t mean to take away from that. I just wanted to inform you that there are 11 elements listed and suggest editing it. Sorry for the rudeness, and have a good day
Nice video Derek! But a couple big quibbles. You don't gain information when you measure the electron's position. What you gain in position information you lose in momentum information. That's Heisenberg for you. On a more general level, all we know about quantum mechanics right now is that it's unitary. That literally means that a quantum state has the same amount of information in it at all points in time. If the universe can in fact be described by a single quantum state, it MUST always contain the same amount of information. The second law of thermodynamics, and the collapse of the wavefunction, only appear true to us because we are a subset of that very same quantum system.
Second that. Furthermore the 2nd law is working quiet well in classical physics without the need of quantum effects. And I would not talk of free will if my double pendulum called brain in a deterministic universe chooses pizza instead of fries beacause of slightly different initial conditions. There's no free will on a physic level abstraction. At least I "chose" to think so.
The issue was the Free Will part. Libertarian Free Will is logically impossible , regardless of Quantum Mechanics and hypothetical Indeterminacy. First of all, we only have Interpretations of the same QM data, some interpretations fall to the deterministic side, some Indeterminism, and some agnostic. But QM is irrelevant, because hypothetical acausal-randomness, does not allow for Libertarian Free Will, because you do not have control over acausality.
@@Siberius- If QM is random, then there's no free _will,_ effects just happen with no cause. Oh, and causality would not be a thing, and causal laws would be wrong. Logic and math would be self-defeating. But if QM is _not_ random, then there's no _free_ will either, _because_ causality applies. But at least logic and math wouldn't be self-defeating in the second option, causal laws could be true, and science could thus be possible.
@@Gabdube - Though there could perhaps hypothetically be acausal events that are so tiny, that they don't really have any noticeable affect on anything, and are too insignificant to scale up through chain reactions... maybe (if such a thing exists in the first place, which we don't know). But yea I agree with the gist of what you're saying. Regardless of Determinism or Indeterminism, neither allow for Libertarian Free Will.
@@Siberius- The fact that mistaking uncertainty for indetermination kinda makes the whole of science, logic and maths self-defeating (including making that interpretation itself be self-defeating); is still a strong argument for dismissing that interpretation and accepting that causal determination (or at least causal-probabilism) is a reasonable and necessary assumption if we ever want to know anything about anything.
@@ArcanineEspeon Nid wyf yn siŵr beth ydych chi'n ei olygu. Ond agorais eich camlas a bu bron imi syrthio i'r llawr pan welais ddyddiadur o Dref y Dirgelion. Nid hiraeth yn unig mwyach. Fe wnaethoch chi fy argyhoeddi yn fawr. Rwy'n edrych ar ran 5: Cyfarchion DDD o Slofacia.
“Distortion is character. In fact, everything we call character is the deviation from perfection. So… perfection to me is characterlessness.” Brian Eno This video gave a new meaning to the word "disorder" Love this channel alot
Wow. Veritasium and VSauce joining forces? Add in the Computerphile guys, the Numberphile guys, and of course the Sixty Symbols guys, and you would OWN UA-cam!
Danny Criss Computerphile, Numberphile, Sixty Symbols (and many others) are sort-of the same guy. Brady Haran runs (I think? at least contributes significantly) to all three, and a number of other channels that share his same style. Also, in the description for this video, he mentions thanks to Professor Phil Moriarty, who is one of the regulars on Numberphile. But yes, I'd love to see more collaborations between those guys.
+pyrointeam I used to eat kiwis without the skin, but than a friend told me, that the skin isnt actually poisonous or smthg :) So from that time I always eat kiwis with the skin because I am too lazy to get rid of it and it tastes almost the same.
My brain is exploding from awesome! You three (Veritasium, Vsauce and Shots of Awe) are three of my favorite things ever :-). I would watch the crap out of a video of a video that just had Michael Stevens, Derek Muller and Jason Silva just sitting there, talking about life in general. Just uh, just saying.
Must thunderously echo that! Michael Stevens, Jason Silva, and Veritasium are a TriSynergy of Boundless Energy for Creative Mind, individual and collective Gaian. Tears of joy and gratitude of what they bring to Light of Love of Flame of Scientific Knowledge, spirit of boundless pursuits of frontiers into discovery of the wiring underneath the board, and captivating countless (sometimes mainly young) inquisitive mindsets that will guide us all into a far superior paradigm of life experience, the forward leap inward to hyper spatial being as McKenna always said. I'm clumsy with words here, but these 3 souls, to me, are the highest standard of reference and an invaluable resource for all to learn from. IMHO, the all deserve equal parts of the Sagan-Burke Award for Net Renaissance Iconic figures.... Gratis Ultimae Googolplex!
i dont know why i watch any of these videos.. veritasium or Vsauce.. i litterally sit here and dont know what the fucks going on. at all. i just feel smart listening to this.
evangeline amber Thanks, but I understand jokes perfectly fine. It's only when they are not the least bit funny that I fail to realize they are even a joke. There is no punch line or anything to suggest your comment is supposed to be even mildly amusing and not just a statement of your ignorance.
its so good this video has now the 1080p premium resolution option even being so old, thanks youtube, i easily noticed the change in the bitrate using the white noise part of this video
XxAtomix112 The comment is not random as the probability that he would comment on a video about randomness and the comment being about randomness is predictable. lulz
Well, entropy actually is the measure of how many configuration a system can have based on the positions of the elements and saying it is disorder is kinda misleading. The second law of Thermodynamics does not care about what humans find more aesthetically pleasing. It is more about the very strong statistical tendency of the spreading and mixing of the elements/information in space. Because there are exponentially more way to spread out and for mixing than moving back to a lower entropy state. For example the air never going to sit in the corner of the room after it was spread out. Witch is a lower entropy state because in a smaller place the particles can be in fewer positions. So, your answer is more correct. OR ISIT?
Actually chaotic and random are different. Randomness is an idea whereas something chaotic has a lot of variables that we can't realistically predict the future but in theory we could have if we knew every single variable. The same is not the case with randomness it happens for no reason while chaos happens because of many reasons being meshed together
We can also observe similar patterns in biological data. When calculating diversity in a biological community, the more diverse the assemblage, the higher the entropy (which happens to be used to quantify local diversity) and the more random it gets. Fascinating!
As someone who has studied information theory, you got most it right, but left out some important things. Shannon's information isn't the only information. Informational entropy isn't the same as thermodynamic entropy. Thermodynamic entropy is randomness. Information entropy is negative thermodynamic entropy(as far as the equations are concerned). Meaning that information entropy is the opposite of randomness. Also, thermodynamic entropy characterises a state, one point in it's phase space, if you picture it as a graph. Shannon's entropy however characterises a source of information, not the information itself. So Shannon's entropy is a path or a curve, running through it's phase space. The second law of thermodynamics isn't a law actually. It contradicts with Newton's second law. It's actually a mathematical approximation, meaning that isn't true everywhere. It has to do with how the law is modelled. It deals primarily with gases, where the molecules are modelled as spheres and not as what they actually are. Entropy isn't actually universally increasing, because gravity. The universe is becoming more ordered. Entropy is increasing in relation to information, which is order. Thermodynamic entropy is also increasing, but in that case it means disorder. So these entropies are not the same thing.
So there are two entropies, and the more information we gain, the less entropy there is in the universe? So in regards to time, both forms of entropy increase over the course of time, but thermodynamic entropy can increase in isolation because it doesn’t rely on measurements? Is that correct? Also, who said that Isaac Newton’s theories were infallible?
Your comment reminds me of that meme about the chances of you being born. And it's ridiculous. Consider: you fire blindly at a 1 inch target from 1000 yards away... a trillion times. And one of the bullets that hit, asks: what where the chances of it being ME. The problem is the ME, without the ME, the chances are 100% that some bullet will hit. Egocentricity prevents you from understanding statistics.
Well, if you consider the number of humans existing on Earth at the time of that shirt's production and release, the number of people who bought it, the regularity of it being worn (in account of the day this was recorded and the day you saw this), the position of the Earth around the sun, it's position in the Milky Way, and the Milky Way's position in the universe, along with several other factors, then you will come up with an arbitrary number that explains the exact probability of you wearing the same shirt that Michael wore in this video at the moment that you first found it.
Beautiful episode! It is a pity that there was no mention to Kolmogorov, the father of the modern mathematical characterization of randomness as the impossibility of compression.
@@dviproductions3493 Im from Germany I ve just always been told that u guys eat it with skin. And well Derek is from Australia so u have seen someone eat it like that xD
I love this, thank you! For years I have been thinking of this idea. But I’ve been too terrified to discuss it publicly. Thank you for breaking that barrier within me. Much love.
I love the fact that the second law of thermodynamics existed for about a hundred years before anyone thought to come up with a rigorous definition of entropy.
I can't believe it has taken me this long to find this video. I've had many of these ideas kicking around in my head for a very long time and I've been subscribed to this channel for a couple of years. It's nice to have someone expand on it.
I'm still not satisfied that the quantum randomness of the universe is enough to support free-will, which is my greatest concern with all of this. A mind that is the product of randomness is just a product of randomness and this doesn't necessarily mean it it can make a decision in spite of the deterministic nature of everything else, after the random inputs.
Glad to see someone is on the ball here. This video surprised me. It's actually kind of a let-down - seeing both these guys, who have done some excellent science videos, perpetuating a feel-good *free-will from quantum randomness* speculation. It's Chopra-esque. Yuck!
I feel like they are appealing to the masses by sugarcoating the universe. Paraphrasing Derek Muller 8:05: "the second law of thermodynamics is necessary for us to have free will, so don't think of the 2nd law as a curse!" See? knocking two birds with one stone, the fear of lack of free will and the fear of order in the universe turning into disorder.
I think the hang-up here is the interpretation of what "free will" actually is. I'd feel more comfortable saying that quantum randomness gives us "unpredictable" or "indeterminable" will, which I still find comforting. The future is not written.
3:02 The problem with their explanation is that the contents in the file are predictable because they are based on outside factors that made the file. This is the same for everything in the universe meaning the initial state of the universe is the most random thing. Meaning the amount of information in the universe isn't increasing just uncompressing...
Micheal: 'but Derek, what is the most random thing possible in the universe?' Derek: *proceeds to eat kiwi in its shell* 'that's a very good question'. Internet: ...
Veritasium and Vsauce collabing in a video talking about what is NOT random is all I needed to see in my life.
yeah good one bro
This video is 8 years old... god
Coming home late and watching Vsauce and Vertasium was one of the best periods of my life...
Vertasium still makes good content and so does Vsauce.
the double V's
The fact that I'm finding this video today is just so random
VeritasiumSauce
I'm so dissapointed that we don't get
"Hey Veritasium, Michael here"
Lollolo
Yeah that would be nicw
I'm upset now after seeing this... had a great opportunity.
Or when he collabs with a certain game UA-camr "hey all, Michael here"
This
It is impressive how Michael Stevens always appears out of nowhere, even if he's in a Veritasium video
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*VSauce theme music plays*
He even came in how to basic 🤣
Yeah that was weirdly random. But, *what IS random?*
Ok
I love the cat deciding to make an appearance in the video about randomness. Truly the masters of the random.
when i saw this comment i went back up to see if it was true and the cat appeared that was so random
A cat appearing on the internet is hardly unpredictable, to be fair. xD
you cat see in the eyes of cat to say it random everything has it's own reason
Timestamp?
"You won't become Michael Stevens"
Dreams shattered
Michael Stevens will not become you.
MY LIFE GOAL TO BECOME VSAUCE NOOOOOO
I AM Michael Stevens
Michael Stevens NO NO NO YOU ARE NOT DONT LIE TO ME THAT MAN IS A GOD YOU CANT JUST JOKE ABOUT THAT
*collabs just to steal michael stevens music*
These two random dudes made my life full of interesting science, it’s so cool
or is it random? lol
A lot of this isnt science. It's logic.
NOT random! Completely predictable.
@@realitynowassigned it's physics, Theoretical, Thermodynamics, Relavtivistics, Quantum Mechanics and I'm sure other types of physics would be involved. It goes way way beyond "logical" unless your name is Spock. It's science not logic.
@@gwsmith76 general and special relativity are both founded on logical thought experiments.
i wanted a colab with them but i didnt realize they did one 7 years ago. lol.
And a pretty bad one. I'm disapointed
@@gwathanaur cant expect much from a 7 year old collab
@@gwathanaur wait why is it bad?
@@gwathanaur no u
@@derinwithaq5811 yea that’s what I thought as well
I can't believe i have missed this crossover for so long. Seeing this collab 9 years later is one of my most exciting random things so far.
Everyone thinks Endgame is the ultimate crossover but this is better.
Endgame is also about quantum mechanics.
For real
The mouse is the secret element of quantum mechanics.
who thinks endgame is a crossover?
Everyone: Endgame is the ultimate crossover.
Weebs: Isekai Quartet
"You wont become Michael Stevens..."
"Or will you?" *DOOONNNGGGGGGGGGGGG*
How do I know I won't wake up as Micheal Stevens tomorrow, but with all his memory and his soul, so I will think I'm Micheal Stevens, and no one will know?
dong was such a horrible waste of time lol. terrible content.
@King Pistachion lol. I bet you think TOP 10 2021 AMAZING WOW videos are good content too. Fkn tiktok losers. XD
Which means things you can do online online online now now now guys guys guys guys guys guys guys guys guys guys guys guys guys guys guys guys
@@UA-camIsAGarbagePit SMCHEK FINKLES SMEGER SMEGSHEETS ZUMBERCHL
That awkward moment when you become Michael Stevens.
+HSGames freak
Hate when it happens
Meh. BN is cool.
Do I look like I care? And how is it disgusting? Because you don't like Bronies?
+HarmonicSymphony hmm seems like a pretty aggressive statement, maybe defensive. I don't know because I haven't read the previous comment..... You have just become my experiment.
I can't believe I somehow missed this video by two of my favorite UA-camrs for 9 years. Thanks for nothing algorithm. This was amazing and single-handedly changed my stance on determinism and free will. My mind is blown. It makes so much sense.
whats your current stance?
@@TNRPISIQ I'm not entirely sure. Previously I was firmly in the determinism camp of believing there was no free will. Now I find myself leaning towards believing exactly what Derek outlined at the end of the video here. That random quantum events in our brain/body could be a form of free will, that not everything is absolutely predetermined. Though of course there is still the question of who is in control of that pseudo "free will" since it's been shown that one can predict the choices we'll make before we consciously make those choices. So perhaps there is still no free will, no real "choice" being made, but it's also not fully predetermined, there's quantum random chance involved and our brains make up a narrative to match that random choice and make us feel like we made that choice to give us agency in our story. Regardless, I'm fascinated by thinking about this all in a fresh new way now.
@@beegemanare quantum events truly random or are we not fully advanced to calculate that?
thousands of years ago, the people might have thought the moon and it's position sky as random and here we are traveling to moon. My belief is we can't truly stick to one theory at this point. universe may be deterministic or not. I personally believe it's deterministic. but I also believe it's not deterministic so that I can somehow feel I control my life with the free will I have.
Same. This video's been around for 9 years, yet UA-cam only recommends it now?
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To be clear, by "free will" I mean that your decisions could not be predicted with certainty, even if someone knew everything about all the particles that make up your body. I am not suggesting you have conscious control over your decisions as even current research shows we become conscious of choices *after* we make them.
I've given my view on the quantum measurement problem but it's called a problem for a reason. No one has it fully worked out quite yet (or maybe this is as fully as it can be worked out). I am not saying that determinism is certainly false, but our scientific theories and observations as they stand today imply that new information is being generated in the universe and this makes it impossible to predict the future with certainty. Some day this view may be overturned.
To me, for now, time looks like a zipper. Far in the future the possibilities are wide open, but with every passing second time zips up what might be into what actually happened.
Behold! The messy intersection of science and philosophy. :)
I love it! Sharing!
MIND BLOWING :D
i loved the vid, and i love this comment ;)
gjgjgjgjgj keep it up
Yesterday is history
Tomorrow is a mystery
Today is a gift, which is why it's called the present.
Awesome Video! I'm not an expert but how is the second law of thermodynamics is proven in universal scale?(6:37-- "It'd take more information to specify the state of universe now rather than right after Big Bang")
And ofcourse the next recommended video is 'What is Random' by Vsauce!
Same
I came from that same Vsauce video lol
I'm currently stuck in an infinite loop between watching Derek's video, then Michael's, then Derek's, then Michael's, then...
So not random!
Same
everybody gangsta till vsauce music starts on a different channel
What did that even mean
The background music is from vsauce
That nostalgic music ur not a vscause member if u can't get the music
That VSauce music hits different!
@@sambran310 Perhaps he's referring to the "everybody gangsta" part, which would be quite reasonable, due to the informality of it.
3:53 the cat's timing to demonstrate pure cat randomness was spot on and on topic.
The cat is entropy
@@THUNGUNS all hail the cat overlords of entropy
3:26 love this little cute syncing of the word entropy. Like a first year university presentation.
So frigging cute ...I think I'd like watching geeking out over maths and science....
Gay
@@chriswebster24 bit homophobic?
Time to grow up and stop being so scared, not even gay guys would want you.
@@brodiewatson-victory7801 they never used gay in a bad way if u see it that way ur the one with internalised homophobia
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"You won't become Michael Stevens"
- Michael Stevens 2014
Or will you?
@@Somedude48 *_Vsauce Music Intensifies_*
445th like
Or can you ???
mubashar qadeer I can
When you get vsauce in your video just to use his iconic music without getting called out
That's the music for all 3 vsauce channels
hugeKingKibbleFan 69 When you have a terrible profile picture and are just following a trend.
True
@@bigman489 true
@@bigman489 When you're so bored in life and internally miserable you bully strangers online.
I love the fact that Vsauce is in
this video, makes it even more
fun and enjoyable! Also liked the
cat in the background: 3:52! Keep
up the great work! I am also a bit
new to this channel, and I love the
way you explain everything.
A random fun fact:
Derek is 3 yrs OLDER than Michael.
but is that fact random? is me commenting random? maybe. butmaybe is not random.
And its not fun
bruh
Or is he?
*dramatic music intensifies*
This video was a masterpiece, I literally felt strong emotions watching this.
I keep returning to it. It's like a temple, a video temple.
@@geirtwo how could you describe it so well, that's exactly what I feel this is!
It's everything I've thought about free will versus determinism since I was 16 and shed my naive deterministic model of the universe, only with more theoretical grounding than I had available.
When Michael’s soundtrack starts playing 😂😭❤️!!
Same here 🔥
Me:oh man I love burgers
Michael: BUT WHAT REALLY IS A BURGER
+Jedi Spock Michael: It's a mass of completely random particles which carry a random seed of information bla bla bla...
A+
+August Svensson but what is random
AND CAN BURGERS MOVE AT THE SPEED OF LIGHT?
+Bernard Hazel no no no no. Can light travel at the speed of burgers?
I've learned what is "random" and what is "not random". Thus I have learned everything there could ever be.
Came for the memes..
Stayed for the existential crisis
Don't panic too much. They are getting a lot of this wrong. The second law of thermodynamics isn't actually a law. It contradicts with Newton's second law, which is a law. The second law of thermodynamics is more of a mathematical approximation.
Also thermodynamic entropy and information entropy are _not_ the same thing. In some ways they are each others opposites, in other ways they are completely different things.
Source: I've studied my fair share of information theory and thermodynamics in university.
Yeah you shouldn’t get too depressed
until you realise that there’s a 1 in a billion chance that we are real in a low dimensional plane where virtual higher dimensional beings are gods to gods of gods
actually knowing that i have free will makes me NOT have a existential crisis
Or because you don’t have free will you can’t have a existential crisis
@@toddhowardfr But you don't. So you can start panicking now.
This is the best crossover in history.
“Or is it?”
''But what is crossover?''
@@Am4nchaudhary and how much does a crossover weigh?
@@VaguelyCanadian if all the crossover were stacked on top of each other, how high would it be?
@@ragingdragonii1783 When is crossover now?
*Music plays
*Mysterious raising of the eyebrow
me : let's go watch a movie
Michael : but what actually is watch
What exactly is a movie?
what is actually 'going' =))
what actually is the word actually, well actually derives from Latin word "act-shoe-less" or acttulas.
/music plays
tru
10 minutes, 10 years and the best youtubers that have ever steped into the youtube scene, talking about randomness
2024 and still beautifull
Laplace: What if you knew the exact position and velocity of every particle in the universe?
Heisenberg: Wait, that's illegal.
I was hoping someone would say that
This is something that I wish to remember and hopefully share with someone in the future
Given quantum entanglement, you can assign a probability distribution to all possible outcomes and theoretically still "know" every position and momentum for every particle.
That’s DePlace!
Laplace: What if you knew the exact position and velocity of every particle in the universe?
Heisenberg: Wait, that's illegal.
The cat cameo was priceless 3:53 . I'm glad you recognized that it was worth keeping.
Predicted it
Paid actor
"What is not random?"
Michael and Derek doing a collab
@Collin Vail :P
That's because there is no Free Will regardless of "quantum effects in our brains."
😆. YEAH.
What is random? can you prove that randomness exist?
@@Danishdonjuan i can prove ur mom's existence
You guys should co-star more often! That gelled together incredibly well.
Two beards are smarter than one
I don't get it.
@@vkishan2089 You will.
@@vkishan2089 cause you India you lose
LOL 😂😂
@@isprithul I wonder where you are from.
The crossover we never deserved, but needed.
I always imagine Michael and Veritasium and other educational channels having like a "movie together".
now we need one with Michael, Veritasium, Mark Rober, and the Kurzgesagt team
@@Matthew_MBGKurzegast for sure, but who is Mark Rober?
@@TON__618.He used to work for nasa, he makes fun engineering videos on youtube
We need Steve Mould and Smarter Everyday in that movie too!
Nile Red would be nice
"What will happen tomorow is not random"
"...or is it?"
*Vsauce music starts*
No it isn't :D
"Everything would be predictable. Even human behavior."
So, you could finally understand how your woman thinks? Really? It's pretty clear that hypothesis is wrong.
6:28 This part was my favorite! I never thought of entropy like this but this makes so much sense.
“...and you won’t become Michael Stevens”
Dammit
**cries**
I watch this video, it tells me to go watch the vsauce video. I watch the vsauce video and it sends me here... 7 years later, I am still trapped in this loop. Save me.
Stop clicking
Boom loop ends
According to the Second law of thermodynamics everything will eventually come to disorder, so sooner or later you'll break free from this loop
or are you?
Just misplace your fingers and it should be solved
Derek does, however, give you the choice to click over, or not.
The crossover we didn't deserve , but the crossover we need.
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Both of the producer's behind this video deserve more than compensation for creating such insightful and meaningful content over the years. I seriously feel enlightened after watching both of your channels. Oh, note worthy, along with this video, are Smarter Every Day - Destin and that Physics Girl - Diana.
I think Veritasium and Vsauce are the only two channels that I don't freak out when something happens like at 2:29
yea me too but i still freaked out when he bit into that kiwi with the skin still on
3:51 That cat was random.
Michael: OR WAS IT?????
But it wasn't Deja Vu. So we're ok. 😄
Schrödinger seconds that
Vsauce music plays
8:01 That fly was random.
@@ChewyWolf64 or was it?
+Veritasium Around 5:50 about the argument "against a Laplace-deterministic universe". The fact that entropy increases has nothing to do with the fact the universe is deterministic or not: by example, if you assume our universe is restricted (physically and by its laws) to a single volume in which there is a perfect gas (small balls moving independently and bouncing at the volume limits) you have a perfectly deterministic and reversible universe but nevertheless you'll observe macroscopic phenomenon that still happen in only one direction: the diffusion of such a gas in the volume. The reasons are statistical.
The entropy of the diluted state is thus strictly higher than the entropy of the same gas concentrated somewhere in our finite volume. And so as it's possible to built the laws of such deterministic universe in which we can still talk about entropy and second principle of thermodynamics, it rules out any argument saying this mechanism proves we live in a undeterministic universe.
So that would imply that information is different from entropy?
Of course information is different from entropy. Both notions are related but not indentical. If we stay vague we could also say that information is energy, there are also a lot of common points in both notions. Entropy is by definition (it's existence is postulated) a state fonction (meaning it's depending only on the other mascroscopical functions like, volume, temperature etc...) that evolves in only one way. The best interpretation of entropy is the interpretation of Boltzmann: for a macroscopical state of a system correspond a large number of microscopical states, the entropy is a measure of the extent of this set of microscopical states. Imagine a bag containing positiv integers, imagine that the only thing we know macroscopically about this bag is the sum of all numbers. If I tell you then that this sum is 0 you know there is only one microscopic state that achieve that. If the sum is 1, there is n possible microscopic states, and if the sum is 10 a lot of possible microscopic states. Thus those 3 exemples are of increasing entropy. The Boltzman formula is Entropy = k log(W) where W is the number of micro states.
Derek said information = entropy. So there's no such thing as free will, right?
The mistake you make there, is that the "balls" bounce back at the edge. There is no boundary condition if there are no boundarys.
@Justin schaffold: And you are totally missing my point right? The aim here is just to give an example of an imaginary perfectly deterministic and reversible universe. If you do not like boundaries (and I am wondering why) you can remove them and imagine an infinite universe, or if you prefer an hyperspherical universe or whatever. I illustrate the fact that in such a universe, entropy could still be defined, and the augmentation of entropy principle would still hold. As such a universe is designed to be deterministic and reversible I just highlight the fact that the notion of entropy has absolutely nothing to do with quantum randomness, it's a statistical and emmergent notion that can exist either in deterministic or non deterministic universe. And so I am against the use of it to show anything about the determinism or non-determinism of our universe.
Every now and then I stop by again and watch this video. I still remember when it was released. It's genuinely one of my favourite videos on the entire internet
Mine too, it connects so many topics together it's satisfying
adding this to my “listen while not high” playlist
Lol I'm not high and still tripping balls hahah
Lol. Nice pfp btw
@@okb6436 opaganastai
What a great idea. The play list that is.
Guess I'll never watch it then
3:51 Cat bursts onto scene. "oh, you recording? OK, I'm out."
Good thing veritasium didn't retake
The was not random
@@greensteve9307 yea he told the cat to do it xD
Cat acting randomly.
Michael: Or is it?
Username checks out :)
THIS ONE BLEW MY MIND! It makes so much sense. It has never once occurred to me ever that disorder is actually information in it's purest form, and even more so, it can be useful information. I mean your initial instinct would be that disorder has no information but the opposite is actually true. This video really enlightened me. Learned something new today.
The problem with this video is they mixed their own ideas with actual science, and didn’t make a clear distinction between the two.
"Information" in the usual sense is the ability to predict the future. If I have information about your school schedule, I can predict where to meet you at any given time. Shannon information is the opposite: the event (finding you in a particular classroom) is the surprising part, from which with enough repetitions you can deduce a schedule.
@@oatmongen4263 science is just imagination
@@CesarMartinez-gi9de It is not.
I scarcely have any words. You think you can just make stuff up and it will be science?
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After 10 years, I can still say that no individual thing has changed the trajectory of my life as significantly as this collaboration for randomness videos by Vsauce and Veratasium. The ideas and concepts discussed here have influenced the furthest reaches of my life almost every day since first watching it back in 2014. It's not that the details of this video gave me any sort of change of perspective on any sort of spiritual or inspirational level, but this video made me think about things differently. Thank you Vsauce and Veritasium teams.
...and thank you James Gleick, Claude Shannon, Charles Babbage, Ada Lovelace, and so many more!
The thing about these UA-cam channels like veritasium, vsauce, physics girls etc. Is that the don't feel like yt channels they feel like tv shows . They give me some sort of nostalgic feeling
who would like physics girl except a simp
@@abhinavbhardwaj5517 Of course you would simply deny
Bro you forgot a legendary channel called "kosmo"
It reveals unimaginable truth about universe such a way you won't expect
Also they uploads video duration of 1-2 hours so it's better to watch them instead of some dramatic stupidic cringe movie
@@xninja2369 i have a similar opinion
@@abhinavbhardwaj5517 have you watched it
Just watch one time and you will fall in love with it
I would probably stay in school if these 2 guys are my Profs.
So true xD
+TheOfficialNar Mine are not like that^^
+TheOfficialNar maybe thats the reason for most people not knowing much about science incompetent teachers
+TheOfficialNar difinitive
Smart stuff from Veritasium and Vsauce!
Suddenly everything I ever learnt about Physics, Chemistry, Mathematics and Computer Science is connecting and the universe appears beautiful.
Top 10 best anime crossovers OF ALL TIME
dat vsauce song.
+Keytotruth You mean dat Jake Chudnow song.
Gabriel Maisonet I didn't know the author, thanks!
+Keytotruth Composer, not author
Sam Lunn The author of a song is the person who creates it, so no, both things are right.
+Keytotruth If I remember correctly, you write lyrics and compose music, so both of you are right and wrong. And not random, apparently.
Stop it Veritasium, I'm getting tired of scraping the pieces of my blown mind of my living room ceiling.
Joshua Blanco Same pieces and how many pieces from the first time 🤯?
But what is 'scraping'?
off* lol jk
lol 😂😂
But you could just call ServPro to clean it all up, you know the guys who say "Like it never even happened." tsk-tsk
I have to say, you two work well together. Bravo. It would be fantastic to see more collaboration.
It was 8 yrs ago my friend
@@raghvendrasinghsengar8360 late better than never
@@KufLMAO it was 4 months ago my friend
@@raghvendrasinghsengar8360 what’s 4 months compared to 8 years?
@@KufLMAO exactly lmao 😂
3:53 The cat behaviour is pure information 😁
It was schrödinger's cat
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My two favorite science channels fused into one episode is what I needed in life, now my mind is fully blown away 🤯
there's another vid in micheal's channel if you didn't know
watashi wa Kira Yoshikage [now thats random]
@@nerodithcabaju3222 name tell me name
This is one of those videos that continues to give me goosebumps whenever I watch it. Brilliantly composed and articulated. Hats off to Veritasium and Vsauce.
This is actually my favorite video of yours, as it touches the philosophical realm with scientific means. Can you please make more science-based videos illuminating philosophical questions? The real mystery lies beyond the positive statements of science (Wittgenstein).
those twelve fundamental particles are:
Ve, R, I, Ta, S, Iu, M, V, Sa, U, C, E
edit: there were two uranium, so i changed.
M, I, C, H, A, E, L, H, E, R, E
There are 11
@@davidwickline9710 count again
P64 Blue you counted Uranium twice
P64 Blue btw still appreciate the thought and effort you put into your comment and I didn’t mean to take away from that. I just wanted to inform you that there are 11 elements listed and suggest editing it. Sorry for the rudeness, and have a good day
Nice video Derek! But a couple big quibbles. You don't gain information when you measure the electron's position. What you gain in position information you lose in momentum information. That's Heisenberg for you. On a more general level, all we know about quantum mechanics right now is that it's unitary. That literally means that a quantum state has the same amount of information in it at all points in time. If the universe can in fact be described by a single quantum state, it MUST always contain the same amount of information. The second law of thermodynamics, and the collapse of the wavefunction, only appear true to us because we are a subset of that very same quantum system.
Veritasium this guy has a point
omg youre acapellascience ;-;
Second that. Furthermore the 2nd law is working quiet well in classical physics without the need of quantum effects.
And I would not talk of free will if my double pendulum called brain in a deterministic universe chooses pizza instead of fries beacause of slightly different initial conditions. There's no free will on a physic level abstraction. At least I "chose" to think so.
@@DanielStein3125 Exactly, I am baffled by how wrong Derek is in this video
This is one of THE MOST mind-blowing video I've ever seen. WOW!
The issue was the Free Will part.
Libertarian Free Will is logically impossible , regardless of Quantum Mechanics and hypothetical Indeterminacy.
First of all, we only have Interpretations of the same QM data, some interpretations fall to the deterministic side, some Indeterminism, and some agnostic.
But QM is irrelevant, because hypothetical acausal-randomness, does not allow for Libertarian Free Will, because you do not have control over acausality.
videos*
There can't be one of one, only one of more than one.
@@Siberius- If QM is random, then there's no free _will,_ effects just happen with no cause. Oh, and causality would not be a thing, and causal laws would be wrong. Logic and math would be self-defeating. But if QM is _not_ random, then there's no _free_ will either, _because_ causality applies. But at least logic and math wouldn't be self-defeating in the second option, causal laws could be true, and science could thus be possible.
@@Gabdube - Though there could perhaps hypothetically be acausal events that are so tiny, that they don't really have any noticeable affect on anything, and are too insignificant to scale up through chain reactions... maybe (if such a thing exists in the first place, which we don't know).
But yea I agree with the gist of what you're saying. Regardless of Determinism or Indeterminism, neither allow for Libertarian Free Will.
@@Siberius- The fact that mistaking uncertainty for indetermination kinda makes the whole of science, logic and maths self-defeating (including making that interpretation itself be self-defeating); is still a strong argument for dismissing that interpretation and accepting that causal determination (or at least causal-probabilism) is a reasonable and necessary assumption if we ever want to know anything about anything.
Even after 10 years, this is still my favourite collaboration!
Derek: And a random string of letters does not generally make a word
Welsh: Ydw i'n jôc i chi?
dwi'n credu hynny
@@jojo.s_bekaar_adventures translates to "am I a joke to you?"
@@moracex hell yeah I was right
@@ArcanineEspeon Nid wyf yn siŵr beth ydych chi'n ei olygu. Ond agorais eich camlas a bu bron imi syrthio i'r llawr pan welais ddyddiadur o Dref y Dirgelion. Nid hiraeth yn unig mwyach. Fe wnaethoch chi fy argyhoeddi yn fawr. Rwy'n edrych ar ran 5: Cyfarchion DDD o Slofacia.
Ok
“Distortion is character. In fact, everything we call character is the deviation from perfection. So… perfection to me is characterlessness.” Brian Eno
This video gave a new meaning to the word "disorder"
Love this channel alot
Make no sense. Perfection itself is an element of a character
@@CS-et4fs nah issa by-product of institutionalization
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@@EEEEEEEE Bold statement, but you might be onto something here
@@shadow_58 i agree.
Wow. Veritasium and VSauce joining forces? Add in the Computerphile guys, the Numberphile guys, and of course the Sixty Symbols guys, and you would OWN UA-cam!
Danny Criss Minute Physics? CGP Grey?
Danny Criss Computerphile, Numberphile, Sixty Symbols (and many others) are sort-of the same guy. Brady Haran runs (I think? at least contributes significantly) to all three, and a number of other channels that share his same style.
Also, in the description for this video, he mentions thanks to Professor Phil Moriarty, who is one of the regulars on Numberphile.
But yes, I'd love to see more collaborations between those guys.
2:07 For those who couldn't get completely what this sentence means, it says:
"if you can read this, you can get a good job with high pay".
3:55 This is so fitting to the random subject
Did he just ate that kiwi with the skin in the end? Now thats random....
I was just looking for this sentence in the comment section after the video ended
+pyrointeam Lots of people eat kiwis with the skin, its very nutritious and is packed with flavour.
+pyrointeam I used to eat kiwis without the skin, but than a friend told me, that the skin isnt actually poisonous or smthg :) So from that time I always eat kiwis with the skin because I am too lazy to get rid of it and it tastes almost the same.
+pyrointeam A lot of chemicals used on fruits nowadays stay in its skin... so its more healthier to get rid of it before eating unless you eat BIO...
+pyrointeam i eat kiwi fruit like you eat apples
and tony abbot eats onions
all other people: 10 minutes
veritasium: 9:59
Epic
Not random
A man that doesn't care about youtube money but about science.
You mean because of advertising? Actually sometimes the displayed duration varies slightly from what you see before/in YT Studio.
And it somehow has midroll ads
From being mentioned in Michael's video to colaborating with him, what an aweome journey.
Amazing video Veritasium & Vsauce, we love the unique questions and insight as always!
My brain is exploding from awesome! You three (Veritasium, Vsauce and Shots of Awe) are three of my favorite things ever :-).
I would watch the crap out of a video of a video that just had Michael Stevens, Derek Muller and Jason Silva just sitting there, talking about life in general.
Just uh, just saying.
Must thunderously echo that! Michael Stevens, Jason Silva, and Veritasium are a TriSynergy of Boundless Energy for Creative Mind, individual and collective Gaian. Tears of joy and gratitude of what they bring to Light of Love of Flame of Scientific Knowledge, spirit of boundless pursuits of frontiers into discovery of the wiring underneath the board, and captivating countless (sometimes mainly young) inquisitive mindsets that will guide us all into a far superior paradigm of life experience, the forward leap inward to hyper spatial being as McKenna always said. I'm clumsy with words here, but these 3 souls, to me, are the highest standard of reference and an invaluable resource for all to learn from. IMHO, the all deserve equal parts of the Sagan-Burke Award for Net Renaissance Iconic figures.... Gratis Ultimae Googolplex!
Hi
I saw this comment and was like "wow it was made back in 2010" but I just cant believe 7 years ago was 2015. Damn time passes fast.
my friend: why do my headphones get so tangled?
me : because of the second law of thermodynamics....
Wow!! You really solved the mystery of my life
i dont know why i watch any of these videos.. veritasium or Vsauce.. i litterally sit here and dont know what the fucks going on. at all. i just feel smart listening to this.
+evangeline amber
Maybe you should try actually listening to what they are saying and comprehending it? Just a suggestion.
maybe you should try actually understanding jokes. just a suggestion.
evangeline amber
Thanks, but I understand jokes perfectly fine. It's only when they are not the least bit funny that I fail to realize they are even a joke.
There is no punch line or anything to suggest your comment is supposed to be even mildly amusing and not just a statement of your ignorance.
learn to understand different types of jokes then, if you fail to realize its a joke, dont comment on it.
+evangeline amber hahahahaha you just made my day with that comment man
its so good this video has now the 1080p premium resolution option even being so old, thanks youtube, i easily noticed the change in the bitrate using the white noise part of this video
Random, by design
That comment is sooo random
:o
agreed
XxAtomix112 The comment is not random as the probability that he would comment on a video about randomness and the comment being about randomness is predictable. lulz
God says oops
He ate the kiwi without peeling it? I didn't know people do that...
***** You´re welcome :D
I do that sometimes
peeling a kiwi? o_O
I thought everyone just cut them in half and ate with a spoon...
Kamil Janowski I do that too.
Kamil Janowski Me, too. But I was stunned when I saw him eating it like an apple :P
New studies of quantum mechanics show that the thumbnail is inspired by famous Spiderman kiss.
- Socrates
LMAOO
Nice one bhai 😂😂
The two legends have finally united, salute to them
You are saying this after 8 years ? 😅
@@mcvmedia2024 and more
3:21 "and randomness is disorder, what we also call-"
chaos.
"Entropy."
oh.
I thought that too! :)
It's pretty much the measurement of chaos so in a way, you were right
Well, entropy actually is the measure of how many configuration a system can have based on the positions of the elements and saying it is disorder is kinda misleading. The second law of Thermodynamics does not care about what humans find more aesthetically pleasing. It is more about the very strong statistical tendency of the spreading and mixing of the elements/information in space. Because there are exponentially more way to spread out and for mixing than moving back to a lower entropy state. For example the air never going to sit in the corner of the room after it was spread out. Witch is a lower entropy state because in a smaller place the particles can be in fewer positions.
So, your answer is more correct. OR ISIT?
Actually chaotic and random are different. Randomness is an idea whereas something chaotic has a lot of variables that we can't realistically predict the future but in theory we could have if we knew every single variable. The same is not the case with randomness it happens for no reason while chaos happens because of many reasons being meshed together
@@katokianimation ended the speech vsauce style. nice
We can also observe similar patterns in biological data. When calculating diversity in a biological community, the more diverse the assemblage, the higher the entropy (which happens to be used to quantify local diversity) and the more random it gets. Fascinating!
You know something is complicated when you hear the word 'quantum'
+DanV Nah just pertaining to small shite.
+Ziquafty Nny only the laws / interactions are very complicated at that level
I suppose it is in reality just perspective.
nah, pice a cake..
lice in cake
I watched this before too but it just feels good to see these two together. leaving this one here as a memory i can look back upon
The way you show science with little bit of art and emotion, is just beautiful.
As someone who has studied information theory, you got most it right, but left out some important things. Shannon's information isn't the only information.
Informational entropy isn't the same as thermodynamic entropy. Thermodynamic entropy is randomness. Information entropy is negative thermodynamic entropy(as far as the equations are concerned). Meaning that information entropy is the opposite of randomness. Also, thermodynamic entropy characterises a state, one point in it's phase space, if you picture it as a graph. Shannon's entropy however characterises a source of information, not the information itself. So Shannon's entropy is a path or a curve, running through it's phase space.
The second law of thermodynamics isn't a law actually. It contradicts with Newton's second law. It's actually a mathematical approximation, meaning that isn't true everywhere. It has to do with how the law is modelled. It deals primarily with gases, where the molecules are modelled as spheres and not as what they actually are. Entropy isn't actually universally increasing, because gravity. The universe is becoming more ordered. Entropy is increasing in relation to information, which is order. Thermodynamic entropy is also increasing, but in that case it means disorder. So these entropies are not the same thing.
That's dense information, thanks.
Wha..
Thank you. There was something slippery about his description and try as I might I couldn't articulate it.
this comment should be higher up
So there are two entropies, and the more information we gain, the less entropy there is in the universe? So in regards to time, both forms of entropy increase over the course of time, but thermodynamic entropy can increase in isolation because it doesn’t rely on measurements? Is that correct? Also, who said that Isaac Newton’s theories were infallible?
I found this video TODAY and Michael was wearing the same t shirt as mine
And this video was about randomness
WHAT ARE THE ODDS!!!
JustPotato But.. what is a coincidence???
Hey Vsauce, Michael here
Parmeshwar Singh
100 percent because noting is random
Your comment reminds me of that meme about the chances of you being born.
And it's ridiculous.
Consider: you fire blindly at a 1 inch target from 1000 yards away...
a trillion times.
And one of the bullets that hit, asks: what where the chances of it being ME.
The problem is the ME, without the ME, the chances are 100% that some bullet will hit.
Egocentricity prevents you from understanding statistics.
good question. But first, WHAT ARE ODDS?
*vsauce music plays*
Well, if you consider the number of humans existing on Earth at the time of that shirt's production and release, the number of people who bought it, the regularity of it being worn (in account of the day this was recorded and the day you saw this), the position of the Earth around the sun, it's position in the Milky Way, and the Milky Way's position in the universe, along with several other factors, then you will come up with an arbitrary number that explains the exact probability of you wearing the same shirt that Michael wore in this video at the moment that you first found it.
Beautiful episode! It is a pity that there was no mention to Kolmogorov, the father of the modern mathematical characterization of randomness as the impossibility of compression.
The Thumbnail looks like some love story.
what did it say at 2:06 ?
Lucas Carrijo the fault in our physics
Vincent Bystrom If you can read this you can get a good job with high pass!
I guess
9:21 DID HE JUST EAT A KIWI WITH THE SHELL STILL ON?
Its called skin, but yes in Australia u generally eat Kiwi with the skin(or pelt or hair...)
@@echof I live in Australia and I've never seen anyone eat Kiwi Fruit with the skin on
@@dviproductions3493 Im from Germany I ve just always been told that u guys eat it with skin. And well Derek is from Australia so u have seen someone eat it like that xD
Wierd as F.... Who would do such an irrational thing?
wait that's illegal
I love this, thank you!
For years I have been thinking of this idea. But I’ve been too terrified to discuss it publicly. Thank you for breaking that barrier within me.
Much love.
???
Then you are really genius.I was shocked hearing this.Especially the quantum particles.
This Is The Collab We Always Wanted But Never Expected
I love the fact that the second law of thermodynamics existed for about a hundred years before anyone thought to come up with a rigorous definition of entropy.
I can't believe it has taken me this long to find this video. I've had many of these ideas kicking around in my head for a very long time and I've been subscribed to this channel for a couple of years. It's nice to have someone expand on it.
I'm still not satisfied that the quantum randomness of the universe is enough to support free-will, which is my greatest concern with all of this.
A mind that is the product of randomness is just a product of randomness and this doesn't necessarily mean it it can make a decision in spite of the deterministic nature of everything else, after the random inputs.
Glad to see someone is on the ball here. This video surprised me. It's actually kind of a let-down - seeing both these guys, who have done some excellent science videos, perpetuating a feel-good *free-will from quantum randomness* speculation. It's Chopra-esque. Yuck!
I feel like they are appealing to the masses by sugarcoating the universe.
Paraphrasing Derek Muller 8:05: "the second law of thermodynamics is necessary for us to have free will, so don't think of the 2nd law as a curse!"
See? knocking two birds with one stone, the fear of lack of free will and the fear of order in the universe turning into disorder.
I think the hang-up here is the interpretation of what "free will" actually is. I'd feel more comfortable saying that quantum randomness gives us "unpredictable" or "indeterminable" will, which I still find comforting. The future is not written.
Why is the letter V so smart?
Vsauce and Veritasium both begin with V.
That can't be random :P
+위대한하지알렉스 Whoa whoa whoa, take a chill pill.
***** Here is me, not knowing what vinesauce is.
Cobi Miller Just don't be a V-tard.
Cobi Miller A gaming channel.
3:02 The problem with their explanation is that the contents in the file are predictable because they are based on outside factors that made the file. This is the same for everything in the universe meaning the initial state of the universe is the most random thing. Meaning the amount of information in the universe isn't increasing just uncompressing...
I'm stuck in an infinite loop. These two videos keep sending me back and forth between here and Vsauce video. Staph, make it staph.
Micheal: 'but Derek, what is the most random thing possible in the universe?'
Derek: *proceeds to eat kiwi in its shell* 'that's a very good question'.
Internet: ...
Do you peel the skin of pear or apple before you eat it? The skin of a kiwi is more similar to that, then to the skin of an orange or a banana.
@@DavidHardyNL But there are like little hairs, it's strange to eat like that. I particularly peel kiwis, but not apples or pears
@@reckermatouvc somebody compared unpeeled kiwi to tarantula without any legs and now I can't ever eat it with the skin
@@elionl1299 but it's exactly like that. A friend of mine said that a kiwi was a monkey's unshaved ball and since then i can't eat unpeeled kiwi
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