Why have I been watching all of these ‘misguided’ UA-cam Golf Instructors, when I should have just been listening to a legend from the beginning? Lesson learned...
This is teaching!!! Perfect for visual learners!!!! I just started about a couple months ago. I Lose most of my strokes on tees and more than 150 yards, sank and 25 footer yesterday!!! Sitting around a plus 30 I’ll tune in 18 months Mr Norman the Shark. I’ll be 24 in feb
This guy was obviously gifted with a brilliant mind. The mark of a genius is relating information. In teaching it's been said: "see one, do one, teach one." When you can do that, you know the concept. Norman presents this information very clear and easy to understand. It reveals to me he is in some respects...a genius. Amazing guy.
so true - if you been playing a while - it really adds up to one thing - only one thing to think about - the rest will follow - just relax and do the shot! Very nice video from one of the best out there - cheers Greg!
The concept of how to hit it for hook or slice will be natural to anyone that plays football (or soccer if you are from the US) but I can see how it would be confusing if not.
When you say the club face strikes at the left or right side of the imaginary line at the base of the ball, according to whether or not you’re attempting a hook or a slice, I think the spin imparted is backspin which is what I always try to impart, although you refer to it as topspin so how can I strike the ball at the top in order to make the ball spin forward with top spin? Please
@@shawnkathuria2440 got hit by a drunk driver couple weeks after that round, broke leg after i recovered injured shoulder nerve in neck swinging to much one weekend, havent really played in years
He got the cause and effect of shaping shots incorrect. The side swipe across back of the ball does not make it spin sideways (i.e., 90° change in spin axis) it just tilts the backspin axis a few degrees very much like how a pilot banks the wings of a plane with the ailerons like this \ for a fade (slice spin) or like this / for a draw (hook spin). That is the simple way Jack Nicklaus explained it in Golf My Way the first golf book I read back in the mid-80s. The strike across the ball still imparts backspin, which combined with the dimpled disrupting the airflow creates lift which causes the ball to rise but the tilt of the spin axis causes be ball to start out in the direction the heels are aligned toward, right for draw and / or left for fade. When learning to shape shots the mistake I made was turning my shoulders, head and eye back to the desired landing spot instead of coming up facing the swing path alignment to the right of center landing spot for draw or left of center of landing spot for fades. fA range drill I created to break that habit or teach someone how to shape shots is to pick a flag on the range as the landing spot target and hit 10 or so straight shots to it to groove the swing. The without changing face angle open stance 15-20° to the left and pick a target at that angle left of the flag and hit 10 or more shots straight to it to groove the felling of coming out of the swing looking to the left of the flag. THEN… incrementally open the face a few degrees at address behind the ball and observe how it affects where the balls fly and land. They will land progressively further to the right and kick to the right after landing. Keep opening the face until the combination of curved flight ( and roll to the right carries the ball to the flag target in the middle. It is best to do this with someone else spotting the ball for you to resist the natural reflex to pop up to see where it goes. A mental post-swing check is taking notice of if you came up with shoulders angled \ looking at the swing line target not where you expect the ball to land. A variable to be aware of when shaping shots is that game ball have different compression and spin rates than range balls. For example the amount of face adjustment needed to curve a ball back to center from a 20° open or closed stance will be less with a high spin rate ball like a Pro V1 than with the range balls. When working as a Marshal at a course and closing it at night I would go out with 30 balls and a single iron and hit approach shots to each green, ten straight, ten fade, ten draw with balls marked S, F, D so I could compare distances and determine my straight, fade and draw distances for all my irons and wedges. I bought alone the groundkeeper’s ball mark repair tool to fix mine and any others, making things a bit easier the next morning for the guy who mowed the greens who would otherwise fix them. Regarding terminology…. back in the 80s when I learned a “draw” was a right-to-left shot which landed as planned but would be said to have “hooked” if it curved to much back to the left and missed left of the target, or curved left when the plan was to hit straight. Same with “fade” and “slice”; a fade was a shot that landed as planned, a slice one that curved too much to the right. Fade or Draw = Executed as planned Slice or Hook = A Miss which over shot targeted landing spot.
+Rob Roberts (RR) I couldn't believe my eyes and ears when I actually saw a video of Justin Rose describing how he curves the ball using the old ball flight laws.
Greg.. your spine is moving all over the place, in fact from your right leg to your left leg like a bell swinging under your head.. Let's not start obsessing over the spine.
This video was made before the new ball flight laws. Back then, the ball flew in the direction of the swing path and finished where the club head was facing at impact. Today with the new ball flight laws, it is just the opposite. In other words, back then Greg hits around the tree. Today, Greg takes the same shot, but it hits the tree. I hope this clears up the new ball flight laws vs the old ball flight laws.
In my opinion, the so called "new ball flight laws" are really just people misreading new data. To be fair, the old ball flight laws were kind of oversimplified. The old laws made teaching ball flight characteristics easier. However, some of the teachings that involve new ball flight laws are just flat out wrong. For example: Old school says the ball ends up where the face is pointed, but initially takes off in the direction of the swing path. New school says the ball takes off in the direction that the club face is pointed. Now there is some initial influence toward the way the face is pointed, but not as much an influence as swing path. Of course much of this is all swing speed dependent. All you have to do is ask a "new ball flight" guy to explain how a ball goes straight down the fairway and then begins to gradually fade to the right. They can't. I posed this question to about three YT golf instructors during a kind of back and forth debate, and they never answered that question. Case closed. I stick with the fundamentals. I worked my way to a single digit and regularly play with club pros. Everyone of them is old school. Sure, they like the ball flight monitors and all that new digital stuff to play around with, but when it comes to actually playing the game, all of that goes out the window. They want the ball in the hole, period. They stay old school... just like what Greg Norman teaches in his video.
Why have I been watching all of these ‘misguided’ UA-cam Golf Instructors, when I should have just been listening to a legend from the beginning?
Lesson learned...
Jack Nicholas has one too on UA-cam. They are very similar but both worth watching.
Went from 16 handicap to single figures in 4 weeks after following Greg’s methods!!
This is teaching!!! Perfect for visual learners!!!! I just started about a couple months ago. I Lose most of my strokes on tees and more than 150 yards, sank and 25 footer yesterday!!! Sitting around a plus 30 I’ll tune in 18 months Mr Norman the Shark. I’ll be 24 in feb
This guy was obviously gifted with a brilliant mind. The mark of a genius is relating information. In teaching it's been said: "see one, do one, teach one." When you can do that, you know the concept. Norman presents this information very clear and easy to understand. It reveals to me he is in some respects...a genius. Amazing guy.
Greg Norman explains the hook and slice golf shots around trees simply and clearly. No wonder he won 2 Open Championships
I love you Greg.
Thanks for posting this. I have this VHS tape but no VHS player anymore...lol.
that 8 iron shot at 8:25 is a superb example of relaxed power.
Favorite golf swing.
This video is packed full of helpful information.
Greg learned from reading Jack's book. Many of his observations are the same here. But golf doesn't change, just explained differently sometimes.
13;04 So Simple Things Greatly explained. Thank you so much for this video
seemlyme exactly what I thought ... as simple as possible as he mentioned several times ... great instructions from a golf legend
Is there anything more beautiful than the sound of persimmon against balata?
anyone who doesn't follow this to the letter is a fool..........never heard the left elbow drill. makes total sense
so true - if you been playing a while - it really adds up to one thing - only one thing to think about - the rest will follow - just relax and do the shot! Very nice video from one of the best out there - cheers Greg!
Funny to see him playing with a "Charity Shop" club!!
Thanks for uploading these :)
200 yards with a 7 iron, and this was in the 80's... Yikes. He was a beast
Superb
this is like the bible of golf
Brilliant instruction Greg!
One key after relaxing the grip tension prior to my back swing is now the18inch take away!
The concept of how to hit it for hook or slice will be natural to anyone that plays football (or soccer if you are from the US) but I can see how it would be confusing if not.
When you say the club face strikes at the left or right side of the imaginary line at the base of the ball, according to whether or not you’re attempting a hook or a slice, I think the spin imparted is backspin which is what I always try to impart, although you refer to it as topspin so how can I strike the ball at the top in order to make the ball spin forward with top spin? Please
I went on the course today and shot scratch on the back 9!!!!!!
Dude, nice!!
Michael Libert got in accident a week later broken leg haven’t played since, goal is to shoot mid 60s this year
@@longlivechina7538 You doing alright these days?
@@shawnkathuria2440 got hit by a drunk driver couple weeks after that round, broke leg after i recovered injured shoulder nerve in neck swinging to much one weekend, havent really played in years
There is some good stuff here. Simple fundamentals. Good for when my game goes to poo...
How does he generate speed without pressing down into the ground with his legs?
Does hitting draws and fades fit into a lesson on fundamentals ?
Definitely.
if a two iron was that simple!!!!
Don't tell Greg that the ball doesn't spin on the vertical axis, it tilts. Didn't stop him being amazing though
I’ve been playing for 40 years and I never thought of it that way. Thanks bro.
He got the cause and effect of shaping shots incorrect. The side swipe across back of the ball does not make it spin sideways (i.e., 90° change in spin axis) it just tilts the backspin axis a few degrees very much like how a pilot banks the wings of a plane with the ailerons like this \ for a fade (slice spin) or like this / for a draw (hook spin). That is the simple way Jack Nicklaus explained it in Golf My Way the first golf book I read back in the mid-80s.
The strike across the ball still imparts backspin, which combined with the dimpled disrupting the airflow creates lift which causes the ball to rise but the tilt of the spin axis causes be ball to start out in the direction the heels are aligned toward, right for draw and / or left for fade.
When learning to shape shots the mistake I made was turning my shoulders, head and eye back to the desired landing spot instead of coming up facing the swing path alignment to the right of center landing spot for draw or left of center of landing spot for fades.
fA range drill I created to break that habit or teach someone how to shape shots is to pick a flag on the range as the landing spot target and hit 10 or so straight shots to it to groove the swing. The without changing face angle open stance 15-20° to the left and pick a target at that angle left of the flag and hit 10 or more shots straight to it to groove the felling of coming out of the swing looking to the left of the flag. THEN… incrementally open the face a few degrees at address behind the ball and observe how it affects where the balls fly and land. They will land progressively further to the right and kick to the right after landing. Keep opening the face until the combination of curved flight ( and roll to the right carries the ball to the flag target in the middle. It is best to do this with someone else spotting the ball for you to resist the natural reflex to pop up to see where it goes. A mental post-swing check is taking notice of if you came up with shoulders angled \ looking at the swing line target not where you expect the ball to land.
A variable to be aware of when shaping shots is that game ball have different compression and spin rates than range balls. For example the amount of face adjustment needed to curve a ball back to center from a 20° open or closed stance will be less with a high spin rate ball like a Pro V1 than with the range balls. When working as a Marshal at a course and closing it at night I would go out with 30 balls and a single iron and hit approach shots to each green, ten straight, ten fade, ten draw with balls marked S, F, D so I could compare distances and determine my straight, fade and draw distances for all my irons and wedges. I bought alone the groundkeeper’s ball mark repair tool to fix mine and any others, making things a bit easier the next morning for the guy who mowed the greens who would otherwise fix them.
Regarding terminology…. back in the 80s when I learned a “draw” was a right-to-left shot which landed as planned but would be said to have “hooked” if it curved to much back to the left and missed left of the target, or curved left when the plan was to hit straight. Same with “fade” and “slice”; a fade was a shot that landed as planned, a slice one that curved too much to the right. Fade or Draw = Executed as planned Slice or Hook = A Miss which over shot targeted landing spot.
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15 minutes - Old ball flight laws.
+Rob Roberts (RR) I couldn't believe my eyes and ears when I actually saw a video of Justin Rose describing how he curves the ball using the old ball flight laws.
TheNYgolfer Yes! I've seen this vid. As if the game wasn't hard enough for us amateurs!
Really! I guess Greg’s way doesn’t work? Works every time!!!!
No-one has sold the Game of Golf better in history.
Your right leg is straightening.
That 4 inches makes a big differences, so the wife says 👀
1st 18 inches most critical, that's what she said
Damn 18 inches? Go to the hospital, her too, some organs are have shifted
Greg.. your spine is moving all over the place, in fact from your right leg to your left leg like a bell swinging under your head.. Let's not start obsessing over the spine.
Are you giving the shark golfing tips?
This video was made before the new ball flight laws. Back then, the ball flew in the direction of the swing path and finished where the club head was facing at impact. Today with the new ball flight laws, it is just the opposite. In other words, back then Greg hits around the tree. Today, Greg takes the same shot, but it hits the tree. I hope this clears up the new ball flight laws vs the old ball flight laws.
are you joking? or is this really incorrect?
In my opinion, the so called "new ball flight laws" are really just people misreading new data. To be fair, the old ball flight laws were kind of oversimplified. The old laws made teaching ball flight characteristics easier. However, some of the teachings that involve new ball flight laws are just flat out wrong. For example: Old school says the ball ends up where the face is pointed, but initially takes off in the direction of the swing path. New school says the ball takes off in the direction that the club face is pointed. Now there is some initial influence toward the way the face is pointed, but not as much an influence as swing path. Of course much of this is all swing speed dependent. All you have to do is ask a "new ball flight" guy to explain how a ball goes straight down the fairway and then begins to gradually fade to the right. They can't. I posed this question to about three YT golf instructors during a kind of back and forth debate, and they never answered that question. Case closed. I stick with the fundamentals. I worked my way to a single digit and regularly play with club pros. Everyone of them is old school. Sure, they like the ball flight monitors and all that new digital stuff to play around with, but when it comes to actually playing the game, all of that goes out the window. They want the ball in the hole, period. They stay old school... just like what Greg Norman teaches in his video.
Sounds like a combination of everyting you mentioned , ie club face swing path etc......
Laws do not change.
@@pushtostart1377 Exactly.