Most Misused Level Crossing In Dorset - Poole Level Crossing, Dorset
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- Опубліковано 2 жов 2024
- Poole Level Crossing, Poole, Dorset on the South West Main Line (SWML).
Location: High Street, Poole
Date Filmed: 10-04-2019
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Nearest Station: Poole
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Trains:
Class 444 (South Western Railway)
The busy Poole crossing on the high street in the town centre.
This crossing is one of the most misused in the UK, since it is solely used by many pedestrians everyday. Typically the barriers have to be stopped to avoid trapping a pedestrian.
There are four warning lights along with a further four pedestrian lights here, two alarms and two barriers. This crossing is manually-controlled from a signalling centre in Basingstoke, not by an on-site signal box in Poole, therefore making this crossing reasonably difficult to monitor when lowering. There's a narrow footbridge to one side which pedestrians can use when the barriers are down.
The level crossing was originally a road crossing but became pedestrianised when the shopping precinct was developed. There's been difficulty trying to find a solution and close the crossing. It can't be closed unless suitable step-free alternatives to crossing the railway can be made. There's no space for an underground subway and it doesn't look like the current footbridge will be replaced anytime soon.
Faces have been blurred as this is a busy high street.
Thanks For Watching!
The biggest problem is that the barriers go down long before a train even turns up,the locals know there's no risk crossing against the lights,so they will continue to do it. All the crossings around here are like that,there was a time when the barriers came down moments before a train passed,so people were less likely to chance their luck.
Yeah, that is probably a problem, especially when locals use this crossing regularly.
I personally don't have a problem with the barriers being down for a few minutes at a time. But then again that's because I know that modern trains are generally bigger, heavier and faster than they've ever been before and as such, may require more time for the driver to react to a hazard on the track and stop the train safely.
If the barriers forget to raise which I highly doubt that it will because of the cctv cameras, here in the US, one of the crossings near me tends to malfunction a lot because of it stuck down for a period of time
It's a red light. A RED LIGHT. Would you risk your life for a few precious minutes? I hope your answer is no as if you get hit by a train it is game over for you
There's a bridge right there you can use.
Unfortunately quite a few people like to take their chances at this crossing.
There's a pedestrian bridge. RIGHT THERE
Yeah I know, and people STILL ignore the warnings!
they probably can't be bothered to use it. they would rather risk their own lives then walk over a bridge
Pretty much lol
I agree there is a bridge there, but what about people with disabilities? If they closed this, they would need to accommodate for everyone
Yeah they would. It doesnt look like theres space for a fully accessible Bridge with steps and ramps. It also seems like lowering the railway or the high street to create an underpass isn't a suitable option either currently
WEIRD... In the USA you get 20 seconds between the time that the gates go down and the train passes the intersection, usually at 50 - 80 mph.
Half barrier crossings in the UK operate similar to railroad crossings in the USA, as they are fully automatic. However, the UK also has full barrier crossings like in this video. These crossings are manually controlled and monitored either from a signal box or via CCTV. Trains can only proceed across if the the crossing has been confirmed clear of obstructions once lowrered. That's why it usually takes a few minutes for a train to pass at these crossings.
1:10 like if you saw detective pikachu
Yes! Poole 👍😁! One of my favourite LC's in the UK, but it still amazes me how reluctant people are to use the footbridge that's there, as it seems they'd rather hold up the rail traffic and make the barriers continuously hangman like that than take a slight detour and climb a few steps (although if they can't use the footbridge, they should just wait, but they still dont!) 🙄. It's quite a lot busier in this video than when I was there last, but I guess that was because I filmed all my videos before 10AM lol. Brilliant video, UKLCC!!!
Thanks! 😁 Yes, the notorious and infamous Poole crossing, well known for its common misuse. Idk why people can't wait. Maybe conduct a survey and find out why people would not want to wait or cross the footbridge. I wanted to make the most of it, so filmed during the busiest times (early afternoon).
The bridge can get a little crowded sometimes from my experience, lots of people using it. But the crowds can just block the access to it as well.
I only use the foot bridge when the train is coming so I can see it go under the bridge
The people who did graffiti on the railway crossings will be paid within the a day because railway crossings are really expensive and heaps of money to pay. They'll be fined.😂
With over 4 minutes between the crossing starting to close and the train crossing the road, I can understand why people would want to cut across!!
Yeah. I'm an American, and I often watch videos on this channel wondering why there's often such a long delay between the gates closing and the train coming.
It's the way full barrier crossings are operated in the UK. They are linked with the railway signalling system, and these crossings have to be confirmed clear before a train is allowed to proceed past. Therefore, a train could be a few minutes before it passes. This isn't the case for half barrier crossings which are automatic, just like Railroad crossings in America.
@@UKLevelCrossingsChannel OK, that makes sense. Thanks 😀
No problem 😊
The music, barrier and the bridge is giving me Warsaw Ghetto vibes.
I don’t get it! I expected most people to try going round the barrier or under it or something. The train did take a while to pass but still?
And because the crossing is monitored somewhat 60 miles away in Basingstoke makes no difference on monitoring and operating the barriers. If there was a Signal Box right next to the crossing the misuse would still continue and the Signaller wouldn’t be able to stop this if they were there by the crossing itself..
steadyeddy69uk They could shout at the dickheads! Maybe that’s the answer? Install some loudspeakers and bellow “Get out of the f* way there’s a bloody train coming; do you wanna get run over?”. I guess that would be far too unPC for today. Also, why are random faces fogged out? That doesn’t make any sense.
I’ve controlled level crossings on site for the past 22 years, having the Signal Box on site makes no difference, people still jump the lights regardless..
I've used UA-cams auto blurring feature since loads of people were walking straight past my camera. I only used it on this feature since it was a busy high street.
GOOD IDEAD.A LOUDSPEAKER AND HORN JUST WARN PEOPLE IF PEOPLE GO THROUGH THE AMBER AND RED LIGHT AND WHEN THE BARRIERS START TO DECEND(COME DOWN)
ONE MORE THING BTP AND NETWORK RAIL SHOULD MONITOR THE LEVEL CROSSINGS AT BOTH SIDES TO STOP MISSUSE AND TRESPASS.PEDESTRANS AND MOTORISTS SHOULD GET A BIG FINE FROM NETWORK RAIL AND BTP.
How about automatic elevators on each side with a top platform? Crossing activates and so do the lifts. They see-saw up and down for counterbalance...
...just ideas, I'm no engineer...
There would probably need to be steps in addition to the lifts in the case that one of the lifts was to fail. Also, the lifts would need to be quite large and spacious as a lot of people use the current footbridge when the crossing is lowered. There's not enough space for both of these things with adequate proposals so for now the crossing will remain as it is with the current footbridge in place I assume.
Electrified rails close to the sidewalks? Or are they not electrified until the gates close and the trainearing?
Thankfully the horrible *[o o]* ceasesounding when the gates have lowered.
Nice to see the details you have videoed! Thank you.
Thank you 😎 The two larger rails close to the centre are electrified all the time. There are wooden anti-trespass guides either side of the crossing to deter people from walking on the line and near these rails
Just down the road from where I live
They could have just used a green/red light thing...
*nvm thats a bad idea*
Nah mate Lincoln high street.
Poole is known officially as one of the most misused in the country I believe. You'll probably find that slightly more people misuse this crossing over a single day than at Lincoln High Street.
The music has a calming effect so people won't cross the track.
If only that actually worked lol
You can see the red man
0:03 here
The level crossing itself is NOT dangerous at all!! It’s the road users (pedestrians) that are clearly at fault. The alarms, flashing lights and barriers all work correctly..
I forgot to finish changing the description as you're right, the crossing isn't dangerous at all if pedestrians obey the warnings 👍
I’ve controlled level crossings for 22 years now and some of the stuff I’ve seen is crazy what you see people do. I’m glad you’ve removed the “dangerous level crossing” bit.. Well Done :-)
Oh yeah, I can just imagine the sort of behaviour seen at crossings. And it's getting worse 😕🙄
@@steadyeddy69uk Your right. The crossing by itself is not dangerous. Its the bloody fools who refuse to obey the warnings that make it that way. I feel for the signalmen and engine drivers who must bear with this every day. Stay safe and healthy.
Mark Schroeder, when I went to Basingstoke PSB back in 2013/2014 the Dorset Coast panel was installed but sadly it wasn’t operational. I saw the crossing controls for Poole LC ready for when Basingstoke was going to take control of it. I’ve been working with level crossings for 23 years and the stuff I see what the public do misusing crossings is crazy. Take care :-)
I'm making a transformer based on one of the south west trains and was thinking about the alarm that goes off when a train is nearby and it's been circling in the back of my mind for a while
Arms over the barriers they do what they like when no oandemic. So
.. im a unpaid regd carer have to put up with this from wimborne to poole!
Level Crossing: Activates
Everyone in the area: Run because it’s not like we could just wait, and no there is not a bridge!
Crossing operator: yeah green signal go ahead train (stops transmitting) ah, stop these idiots breeding!
Train: NEEAWM!
This just shows that people care about were they need to go than there own safety it’s just utter bs I really annoys me I just want to but a fence up so when the gates go down they can misuse
Was last there back in 92 as a teenager when the slam door class 421s 423s ruled the line and the 442s were brand new, intercity holiday makers with a class 47 heading would come and go class 33s were a regular visitor back then to.
Not enough Darwin awards to go around.
When I heard that jazzy music playing, I thought that you added it into the video as a "tut tut" to those idiots who misused the level crossing. But apparently it was some dude playing his horn in the street.
Lol - quite common to have 'buskers' on high streets. Quite relaxing music.
@@UKLevelCrossingsChannel Yeah I know it's quite common. I actually get them a lot where I live in Canterbury in the main city high street
*barriers come down*
*sad music starts playing*
Yeah lol
Ive walked there for ages now
I have been to Poole before and went over this crossing to get to the town centre so for me this is a Level Crossing of great interest because of it being a crossing for Pedestrian's rather for Cars/HGV's etc. Great Find. Keep it up.
Thanks! 🙂 It is a very unique crossing. One of a couple of crossings in the UK located on a busy centre high street.
Years ago, before the shopping centre was built, that was a normal road, open to traffic. Only the very end of the High Street near the Quay has not been pedestrianised.
I found a video from the 1980s showing Poole as a road crossing. Interesting how it became pedestrianised when the shopping centre was built, although back then constructing an alternative means of crossing the railway probably wasn't desirable
I'm surprised at how long the barriers were down there. Like it or not, this causes frustration - at least there is a foot bridge there.
Well, the barriers have to be lowered at least a couple of minutes before the train passes because of how UK signalling and how these types of crossings work.
@@UKLevelCrossingsChannel The barriers went down over four minutes before the train arrived. That's ridiculous. The locals probably know that, which is why they continue to cross after the red lights start.
Good video. I am surprised that Network Rail don't just fence off the crossing.
Thanks 🙂 They more than likely can't do this, as it will effectively cut the high street in two. The footbridge there currently is way too small and not accessible (no ramps for wheelchair users). Therefore, not much can be done really, well at the moment anyway. A large scheme to replace the crossing with suitable a alternative would be required.
@@UKLevelCrossingsChannel There *is* a step-free way of getting past this crossing, but it involves a long-ish walk round the back of the shops to the station, then through the subway.
I have walked that way when thought I didn't know how else to get to the high street haha. As it happens, you can walk through the Dolphin centre to get to the high street.
1:30 Hangman!
How can 'they' justify spending millions 'upgrading' little-used AHBs and virtually ignore high-risk locations such as here? I do like the 1990s-style dreary saxophone muzak, it suits the video very well.
Idk - well it doesn't help that there isn't an easy solution or alternative to this crossing, given the small space of the footbridge in the shopping precinct. A subway would be too costly and also not enough space. For now, awareness of risk is the focus at the moment.
@@UKLevelCrossingsChannel I don't know if motor vehicles use the crossing for delivery purposes. If not, a new footbridge with elevators could be provided, using the crossing space itself rather than to the side (the crossing equipment being removed). The best solution would be to put the railway in a cutting with the high street passing over on a bridge.
The bridges cool! Looks ancient!
👍
1874 or 1894 i think.
Can't remember off the top of my head
5:17 where the train come
WuuuuuAAAAAAAAAAAA NUuuuuuuuuuuu NUUUUUUUU!!! Lol great vid
Fantastic video! Liked 👍👍👍
Thank you! 😎👍
I live down the road to this level crossing
Surprised this crossing hasn’t been removed and fenced off! Use the footbridge!
How would wheelchair users cross?
Yeah, I am too. However, for this crossing to be suitably closed, an alternative route over the railway must be made which is accessible and step-free, and this is difficult given the space.
UK Level Crossings Channel Its hard luck! Safety come first at all times does it not. They’ll have to cross elsewhere.
Its not just wheelchair users, its people with balance issues from ABI. I was never born with a disability and really cross elsewhere ? Prick
Dodgey884 Your attitude is typical. I seem to remember commenting on another video about this crossing and it was plain to see it needs to be removed for safety. Far too many idiots get stuck and cross when they shouldn’t! Disability is unfortunate, but the safety of the railway is and always will be absolutely paramount! We all have to lump things we don’t like from time to time.
Good job there's a bridge
Yeah I know lol
Why have you blurred out people?
they should just lower the barriers without any warning then people will learn
But then that would be far too dangerous lol
@@UKLevelCrossingsChannel well still allow hangmans but just barriers
What the ??????
Agree with this!
1:29 and 1:34 hangman
Yep!
Why is this level crossing broken? The train is not there for 3 min.
The level crossing is not broken. Level crossings in the UK are usually closed for 3 minutes before a train appears.
@@UKLevelCrossingsChannel Thanks for your reply. Interesting... the longer people have to wait (unnecessarily). The more people get impatient. It's all about the one minute rule, I guess...
@@UKLevelCrossingsChannel 3 minutes should be the longest length of the train crossing phase for a 5 carriage train. Most gated pedestrian crossings in Auckland, NZ are closed for 2-3 minutes when a commuter train goes through.
@@UKLevelCrossingsChannel in Canada you have a 15 to 30 second window from barrier down to train. Try to go across like the people here at your own risk.
@@xandercage2388 We have some crossings like that, although they only have half barriers on each side so that the exit route is always open. The reason for that is that the train would take well over 2 miles to stop in some cases (in the UK we have trains going over crossings at up to 125 MPH) and 30 seconds at 125 is just over a mile away from the crossing - IE the train can't stop if there's an obstruction. Most of our crossings are manually controlled full barriered and the signals can only be cleared when the barriers are down. To drop them 30 seconds before would mean the trains would slow to a crawl or even stop before they could be let across (the signal immediately before the crossing would be at danger and up to 2 others behind would be showing a caution aspect - meaning slow down). There's the issue. Do you give fast passenger trains the priority (as is done now) or vehicles? As many passenger trains carry hundreds of people compared to a typical vehicle being able to seat 5 but only having a driver I would support sticking with prioritising the train.
it beter that a open crossing
Yeah I guess so lol
This is art.
Yeah lol
I hate to say this but, I think a bridge replacing the LC is relevant
Yeah, you're right, a bridge would be far better off here. Problem is, it must have step-free access and there's not much to barely any space to accommodate that.
When it had one barrier.usef to duck under ..not going over that bridge again got steamed as a kid
Hangman x2
Very cool :)
Thanks! 😎
@@UKLevelCrossingsChannel 🙂