How Vlogbrothers Will End
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- Опубліковано 1 жов 2024
- In which John continues Hank's conversation from last week about UA-camr retirement, metaphors for being a content creator, and asking when and how to walk away.
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At the very least, I want this channel to outlive tuberculosis
That could be a fitting end to the project - I would even pitch the best ending is a complete reversal of roles - John beating his old rival and known most for a scientific first struggle, and Hank writes a book as or even more successful than tFiOS and known most for his writing. And thus the 20something year process is complete
That’s perfect.
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Whether it ends with a bang, a whimper, or an inaudible giraffe vocalization, I'm glad to have been here with all of you.
Underrated comment.
Damn...someone's cutting onions. Positive vibes from New Hampshire, remember to be kind to each other and yourself during these trying times.
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THIS IS SO GOOD YES ME TOO
I anticipate 93 year old John will still be selling socks for charity and hopefully reminding us all about how we beat tuberculosis.
And dont forget the coffee...
Yes! I cannot wait to see that last one accomplished!
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I think that is how I would see it ending too, not with a bang as a supernova but as a smolder of a white dwarf. not the brightest or most exciting but as a glow that reminds us where we have come from.
let's make sure Tuberculosis is extinct by then
I see (hear?) Vlogbrothers more as the voice of commentators during a football "game". The voice you hear each each match, constant and comforting, until the day they retire and you miss that voice you got use to hearing. I hope you have many more season ahead. The beautiful game needs good commentators in an ever changing landscape
I like this metaphor
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UA-camrs considering retirement: "I'm considering retirement."
John Green: "Everything ends."
Very on brand for John.
Who is John Green, if not a wordsmith wrapped in an enigma wrapped in an existential crisis?
I used to watch Community Channel years ago. Great stuff but Natalie left the platform and I haven’t followed her other work. Great stuff though.
As far as the Green Brothers, they are like my favorite ball player, Salvador Perez. Not on the best team except for a few years. He set a few records, but that’s not the similarity or why I find him important. He’s the heart of the team. I see him as the happiest soul of the Royals. I enjoy watching someone who loves what they do as much as he does. I see the same in you two.
Work as long as you want. I will keep watching as I can.
@@notmyname4790another Community Channel fan here. I miss her. And we still don’t know how to make lamingtons.
I was seriously expecting him to get into some existential Fault in Our Stars stuff about oblivion.
GRADUATION for nerdfighteria. you have taught us EVERYTHING. Can we tell you our stories or how we go on to reduce world suck and apply your knowledge. The class of 2024 is ready to graduate from Crash Course et el.
not saying you need to retire now. class of whenever we're done
The biggest thing about Tom Scott finishing is he told his audience a full year in advance. I hope it will be possible to do something similar for vlogbrothers.
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"Everything ends, and it's always sad. But everything begins again too, and that's... always happy. Be happy." ~ The Doctor ~
Yes!
doesnt the doctor just come back to life instead of dying
@@oedipamaas2067 Yes and No. The character "regenerates" while that means that they do continue living there is a change based on who they become. In real life another actor takes on the role.
I know it has to end at some point, but I hope it’s like far in the future.
We would be happy to let you retire when the time comes and I’ll be sad about it. but we must have a celebration beforehand!
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this is the correct, mature reaction
The return of Nerdcon...?
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Many of us have grown up with these two, went to college with these two, and had our lives enriched by these two. Thank you for all you have given and shared.
YOU GUYS HAVE GOTTA STOP WITH THESE TITLES
Seriously lol
You gotta start accepting the impermanence of the things you love
Agreed
For real. I had to stop everything I was doing
@@nickfcarter yeah lol I realize we’re completely ignoring the point they’re trying to make rn by freaking out about the idea of them leaving
Imo you two are what we dreamed the internet would be: a force for good, inclusive, striving to make things better and let the good snowball in to the future. Roll on snowball!
Anybody else notice this was the first exactly 4:00 video in a long while - nice way of reminiscing about 17 years of Vlogbrothers
I didn't notice that!! Awww that's sweet
17 years...fd5ddftdsgf
The fact that John liked your comment AND the fact that he purposely kept in the last couple seconds of him "turning off" the camera so as to reach that 4:00 mark makes me believe this was entirely intentional. Verrry nice touch, John.
That's actually really cool and sweet.😄
What about it?
Let’s keep in mind there are lots of ways to “retire” it does not have to be all at once or final, it can be a sabbatical, a break, a long vacation, finishing a project, goal or mission and moving onto something else, it can also be going part-time or doing things sporadically, as long as people are allowed options than only age/health/death can cause actual retirement. 💜
that's what jerma is doing right? he's just gonna drop the schedule altogether and stream sporadically whenever he wants to
John, Hank, I love you both, but STOP SCARING US!
Amen!
Mortality is a heck of a thing to contemplate.
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Yes!!!!
Exactly what I was gonna say!
We live in a world that has brought most of us up to believe that "The End" is a really bad and scary thing (we even fear change) when it would actually benefit it us in so many more ways to learn to appreciate and to even celebrate the end of something, and to look forward to the next up-and-coming thing. It's certainly okay to be sad when that event happens, but it shouldn't distract from a potentially new fun thing to focus on.
I never watched Scott's stuff, but I did see his final video, and gave a mental toast to his accomplishment. I wish him the best in whatever his next adventure might be.
With Tom Scott - there are two things that stood out for me
1) He had been preparing his audience for about a year. He know when it was time... and he let the audience in on the secret (and even some preparation on requesting certain things to look at)
2) That ending... Yes, maybe you can say it was a bit cheezy, but to go out while hanging off of an helicopter (after just saying that was one thing he hadn't done).
The montage: Every clip I saw, I remembered the video it was from. And that shows that his videos stuck in my brain: I actually learned something from watching them all.
I got the same sense as John did. He finished the project. Tom Scott has done a bunch of different internet projects. He was one of its founding creators. This 10-year UA-cam project was one of them, and it was a great one.
Tom was also entirely right when he said he’d skipped the cheesiness for a full decade, so he was more than justified in indulging just this once.
Additionally, he never said he was stopping videos all together, just stopping making weekly videos after 10 years. He’s taking a break and will return without a solid schedule
@@harrytodhunter5078 this too. He’ll still be around with smaller YT projects just like he was before Things You Might Not Know began. The 10-year upload schedule was one massive project, and it’s done. He’s on to other projects now.
The ending with the little montage really touched me, got me in the feels, and maybe perhaps even made me well up a lil.
I had to rewatch the last moments of this video because I heard "18th season" and momentarily blacked out. I really thought 2007 was, at max, 12 years ago. That being said, I'm grateful to have you both here and to get to experience the project while it's still being completed.
Don’t blink , it flies ❤
My brain just went "Ah yes, 2007, that was 7 years ago" guess i'm stuck in 2014
We all have a gap in our sense of time from the pandemic missing things up.
Time just stopped really passing once the pandemic started.
"Second string offensive linemen who are kind of personality hires" is such a good metaphor. Vlogbrothers has never been close to being the biggest star on UA-cam, but you are almost universally respected. Star quarterbacks get a lot of attention, but they also get a lot of haters, whereas almost nobody hates on offensive linemen. In my experience, they have some of the warmest personalities of any football players, and everyone cheers when they get to have their moment in the spotlight.
This. God knows for how long i have seen Hank and John around the internet. Heck i started the TFIOS fever in my school, making me a proper John Green fan for about 10years. When did i get to know that he and his brother who happens to be Hank Green have an youtube channel? A year ago. I do wonder how that happened. Why is this channel i itself not more popular?
I agree with this completely, save for one small detail. There was in fact a time where Vlogbrothers were firmly among the biggest stars on youtube. This was in the before-time though, before the content-economy had really developed. I started watching vlogbrothers when I was in grade 9, and now I'm approaching 30, and I'm so grateful to have been a member of what feels like an unambiguously good, interested, and empathic community. Here's to the game, and however long it takes.
Backup catchers might be better. John gives me Pat Borders vibes.
@@SylviusTheMad I love the Pat Borders comparison.
It's weird nobody hates offensive linemen, when they spend all their time being offensive.
Them be a lot of big sports ball words. 🏴☠️
I read TFiOS in 2013 after I lost my mother to cancer. Esther's fight reminded me of my mother's fight. So of course I loved the book. But it wasn't until 2015 after losing my father to cancer too that I started watching you both. At first not regularly as I wasn't so into youtube back then. But in 2016 I started watching every video and I've never stopped since. I love everything you do, I'm a big fan of the podcast and listened to every episode. I bought pizzamas & P4A merch. I read your other books. There is no other creators that I follow closely the way I follow you both. I know someday this will end, and I will miss you both so much, but I want you to know that you've made my life a thousand times better. Thank you thank you thank you.
I'm sorry for your losses.
Are yall okay? Been getting a lot of mid life crisis vibes from the channels recently
Oh, we are definitely having midlife crises! I just bought a football player in the January transfer window, and Hank is doing stand-up! Classic Midlife crises!!! -John
Reminds me of a recent DH&J.
John: Hank is having a midlife crisis.
Hank: WE HOPE!
John: See that's supposed to be the kind of dark joke I make
@@vlogbrothers John, it's not cool to buy people.
-Jon
@@vlogbrothers The Jurgen Klopp, and Ali Al-Hamadi news has probably added to the crises this week. I look forward to hearing how it is handled on the podcast 😀
being alive is a crisis, whether you're halfway done or just starting out
John, as someone who also has OCD and anxiety around death, this video is very surprisingly comforting
He's really good at comforting others through things he himself struggles with. I love that.
This made me emotional. Vlogbrothers has been my touchstone for 18 years. And yes, it must end at some point. John, when it tells you it's time I hope you can hear it. I'll be sad but I respect ya'll so much and am grateful for all you've done.
I totally missed out for the whole run until I discovered them last year, and I would still greatly miss them.
But would be so happy for them to be able to stop on their terms when the time is right.
This. We'll be sad but we'll respect it and just be happy for everything we got.
This is the comment I was looking for. Exactly.
Same, the ending made me tear up and I really hope this community will still be here and doing things for years to come
Really appreciate you speaking to us on this topic. We as audience can be scared of change, or losing connection to you the creator. But to hear your perspective gives new meaning to this whole journey we share.
Thank you for being so candid with us, as u always are ❤️
As someone who finished watching the West Wing yesterday, I would like to say (very persnickerly) that I *wish* it had 8 seasons. It has 7.
I was hoping to find someone who'd pointed this out so that I could rest easily knowing the truth had been shared but that I didn't have to be the pedant. You are a true public servant in the mold of McGarry
Thanks for mentioning this. The caffeine hasn’t quite hit my brain yet (and I’m *not* a morning person), so when my brain got stuck on the “8”, I thought it was just me being me.
Oh, for a Season Eight! (I’d settle for a new Aaron Sorkin tv series, but last I read he wasn’t up for doing another one. 😢 😞)
As someone who's watched the entirety of West Wing, probably about 9 times. I can back you up only 7 seasons. Maybe he is counting the HBO get out to vote reunion episode as the eighth season by itself?
Been relistening to the west wing weekly podcast along side rewatching the show. It’s a very good show of 7 seasons.
@@datbenji4684 “Andrew Jackson, in the main foyer of the White House, had a two-ton block of cheese…”
I've always seen Vlogbrothers as a series of projects undertaken by you, Hank, and/or Nerdfighteria at large. You and Hank completed that first year of videos. Hank created VidCon. You both wrote excellent books. Each year's Project for Awesome is a project. Each year's Pizzamas. Even the sillier, smaller ones, like when Nerdfighters submitted their own happy dances for one of Hank's videos 87 years ago. Etc.
Will the UA-cam videos end? Will you and Hank eventually retire? Yeah, for sure. But the silly and artistic and world-changing projects under the Vlogbrothers/Nerdfighteria umbrella have the potential to continue for a long, long time, because that is the kind of community you've cultivated, and I'm very happy for that.
Honestly, the day that vlogbrothers ceases to be a part of youtube, will be a very very sad day for me. I have gotten so much joy from all the things that you guys have done. I have read the books, listened to the podcasts, watched the movies, cheered with you guys, and cried with you guys. When it's all said and done, and it's not over yet, you guys will be able to look back and see all the good that you put out into the world. All the videos will be watched again to lead the viewers down the path of how Hank and John Green did so much and accomplished so much. It's been a journey and I am happy to be enjoying the midlife crisis era.
I can’t imagine a channel more core to how I feel about the platform.
I mean, that's kind of how I felt about Tom Scott, but it then on the day his channel ended, the main thing I felt was a kind of gentle hopefulness. It's not sad to remember a thing that went great, and to hope for more great things to come.
To be fair, them retiring won't mean they've ceased to be part of youtube. Their videos will still be here after they stop uploading and the things they've done that shaped the platform and the content creation landscape will last far longer than even the ability to access their videos.
It ends with your grand kids making a video saying Hey grandpa.
How many times will you guys give me a mini anxiety attack
for real.
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Everything should end, but dammit we need the West Wing back.
I started teaching Paper Towns to a group of 10th graders today. Talking to them about vlogbrothers was interesting, especially because it has been such a big part of my growing up!
That’s so exciting! I hope they enjoy it!
Nice warm feelings. When I have kids I hope youtube lets me queue up an endless scroll of scishow & vlog brothers videos chronologically.
Just now had the realization that this channel is as old if not older than my students. Wild.
You're def a Law & Order SVU type project. I love seeing these. It's taught me to be a better sister, and friend.
Honestly true. Hank and John handle things with a grace and good attitude I try to learn from.
John,some Nerdfighters are advanced in years;myself included. (57) We need to be eased into things mentally. That title has sent my blood pressure up and my heart racing!
please don't say advanced years is 57, i just turned 47 and i was having the same symptoms :P
every time the doctors look at my husband (same age as me but sadly in much worse health) and go "gosh you're young for heart and kidney problems" i cry a little inside...
my mother used to say "old age is not for sissies" but nowadays i'm not even sure where old age REALLY starts!
@@Beryllahawk I get the same comments from my doctors. My medical issues are different,but I get the,”You’re holding up well despite it all!” Okay…. I didn’t mind turning 50-I still felt young. But the thought of 60 approaching is a bit freaky! But it’s better than the alternative,as they say.
I’m so pleased/grateful that you don’t feel finished yet!
We love you and want the game to be serving you as well as the community
Reflecting on hanks video I picture that when you do finish up you might introduce us to other creators as another way of carrying the community forward
But I wanna watch old man green bros in 20 years
They're not even 50 yet, right? They won't be old in 20 years, they'll be in their 60s!
@@elainebelzDetroit 60s is definitely old
@@Pingviinimursu Only if you're under 30! LOL. I think of it in terms of how you think about someone dying at a given age. If someone dies in their 60s, it's not unheard-of, but we think they died "too young," at least. Full disclosure: I'm in my early 50s.
I believe that the future of UA-cam holds endless possibilities, especially with the advent of AI technology. Channels may never truly ‘end’ - instead, they might evolve. Imagine a scenario where UA-cam harnesses AI to automatically generate new content, drawing inspiration from a channel’s existing video archive. The more videos a creator has produced and archived, the richer and more diverse the AI-generated content could be. This could lead to some channels becoming perpetual, their legacy living on indefinitely through AI-crafted videos. Isn’t it fascinating to envision a platform where content creation is limitless and continually evolving?
We're here, because we're here, because we're here, because we're here. We're here, because we're here because we're here.
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I've just finished reading An Absolutely Remarkable Thing. I hope vlogbros doesn't end with...
*spolier*
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one of you trapped in a burning building!
Completing the project is tricky, because it’s a project for awesome, but also a project that IS awesome 😁
One of the biggest lessons I have come to understand about life in recent years is that it's completely fine to not know how things will turn out and to not attach my sense of fulfillment and worth to expected outcomes. What's important is to appreciate the present moment and the journey. All things change, things end, and new experiences arise always. I think there is beauty in that.
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Its silly to hope something you love wont end, but in a lot of ways, these videos have been the most constant thing in my life since 2010. Its hard to think about that going away, but at the same time i know those moments will still be there. When I had my first child 4 years ago i went back and watched so many of those early videos with Henry as a baby and I took so much encouragement from seeing John as a first time father. I know this will end as most things do, but for the now, i'm very grateful and hapy to have you both here.
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Beautifully put. Everything ends eventually, but what a ride it can be along the way.
I am covetous of that MF DOOM painting in the background. Give please? Tell me where to get it please?!
I'm so glad you don't feel finished, but whatever is best for y'all is what ultimately we want for you all. Thank you both for each year, we appreciate you!! Vlogbrothers is such a lovely weekly treat!!
I remember Dec 31, 2007. Watched every single Vlogbrothers 2.0 . Still watch yall. You guys were part of the inspiration for me to form Gone to the Snow Dogs, which just turned 14. And like you have said, everything come to an end. My channel has lost most of it's audience as they age out to something else, or my channel hasn't changed to the new Mr Beast style to draw in new viewers. In fact, if that was my only income, I would have been forced to quit 4 years ago, as the channel is just slowoly doing worse and worse. UA-cam would have me think it was my fault, but it's not. Like you said, everything has a lifespan, and that channel, is probably done, BUT I am not. I love what I do, I love how what I do educates people about dogs, and I love making the content. How will it end? Who knows, but as long as I still enjoy it, I will keep on creating! DFTBA.
I liked the idea on DH&J where you do your last year as BH2.0 style!
I think that schedule these days would definitely make them throw in the towel if they weren’t so sure before! 😅 I do greedily love the idea though!
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If UA-cam won't tell you I will. John, you're done..... with this video. I'll see ya in the next one
Love that John instinctively stresses “Tom Scott” like “TomSka”
I was also wondering why he pronounces “TomSka” like that :D especially, since this Tom finished doing vlogs on UA-cam this month.
I actually felt like John was pronouncing it like Tom Scott, when Hank kept pronouncing it like TomSka xD
"I'm not gonna always say good morning hank"....crying screaming throwing up
The archive comment really made me think. This whole channel could be a wealth of information for historians of the future! If that information lasts of course.
Recent years have shown me that nothing is quite as wrong as the saying "nothing ever gets deleted from the Internet". Things do. All the time.
We should really be thinking about making a reliable backup of this channel. Something that will last.
Hi! I agree! My roommate (he's a PhD student in Comp sci) told me that per all the current research, Magnetic Tape is the safest storage method with the most amount of storage space! And like, magnetic tape as in VCR or Cassette XD apparently it's a pretty slow retrieval method, so it's not great for speed, but if you want something to last a loooooong time and be protected from damage, transferring the Vlogbrothers catalog onto VCR is kinda the way to go oddly enough,
If I recall correctly, Brotherhood 2.0 DID get archived by some organization, but I think the rest of the channel still only lives on UA-cam (and John/Hank's hard drives if they've stored any).
@@grimmgoosegoose216 As someone who has worked in the media IT sector for 10 years and the media sector generally for 20, this is true… in a vacuum. The media itself is very shelf stable. However, you have to have: a machine that will read that media, into a system that can understand the data on it. No matter what storage medium you choose, there’s no guarantee that the other pieces needed to retrieve and interpret that data will continue to exist. Go Google the saga of McMoon’s for an object lesson in this principle, and that story only involves 50-ish years of time.
In other words: everything ends. 😅
@@grimmgoosegoose216 Funny how the oldest ones are the safest hahaha. Now just needa figure out how to get one and use it😅 Also what do you think would be the next best thing, iCloud?
It's likely backed up to some extent by Internet Archive, worth a check
I WILL be that person, The West Wing had 7 seasons :D
Which will end first, vlog brothers or tuberculosis?
This nearly gave me a heart attack. Like I went “SORRY AFTER SEEING THE STEPPING BACK OF MATPAT ARE WE GONNA SEE JOHN AND HANK GREEN RETIRE TOO?”
and like, everyone deserves rest, I don’t want to discourage that.
I don’t know, I’m not doing a great job at expressing it, but I feel you two are a very important part of UA-cam, and this platform would be fundamentally changed if you left.
Thanks for letting me be a part of the game all these years John 🧡
See you on Tuesday for as long as you want to stay here
(And see you next Thursday in Atlanta🧡)
Hey John happy Tuesday just wanted to say I’m going to The Mountain Goats concert tomorrow and it’ll be my first concert ever! Been a fan for like a decade ever since a vid of yours and I’m only 21 so that’s like a lot. Also hopefully your game lasts a while longer it’s all too much fun to end so soon. THEY CAN TRY TO STICK A FORK IN YOU BUT YOU AINT DONE YET AMEN!!!!
Heart attacks twice in a row, can't wait for the next video "We're done" and the next video "Goodbye forever" and they're just more philosophy of UA-cam
oh gad
Fr! Are hank and John trying to kill us with these titles‽
John, who lives in Indianapolis, mentioning a friend professional athlete who recently retired right after using a football analogy?? Andrew Luck???
I’m sure it’s been there forever but I just noticed the MF DOOM art in the background. Knowing that John listens to the mouse and the mask is incredible.
Came for this ❤
noticed it too i was looking for a comment on this
I don't even listen to MF DOOM and I was surprised by the art and was looking for this comment.
Incredible!
I guess you could say it's...SUPA.
**me seeing this video title** NO NO NO NO JOHN NO
I see you both wanted to make us panic this week 😆👌
Whoot! Not retiring!
Everything ends, but the fright you give me through these titles somehow feels perpetual...
Best out-of-context quote: “Everything should end.”
I generally like when stories end. Unless you’re the Simpsons, most stories become weak or weird after a while. Let things end when it makes sense.
I think the important part is that when something ends, another begins. Completing the project means another can begin. Whether that’s creatively or it’s living your life. Life can be a project and it’s ok to step back and focus on that. For however long we’re together and even after that, DFTBA
Guys, I only discovered you about six months ago. I saw you on 60 Minutes many many years ago. You can’t leave just yet although, I do have tons of your old videos to catch up on. I think it was George Harrison who said all good things must come to an end… But I could be wrong. 😢 please turn my teary-eyed emoji into…➡️ this… 😊
I will end with, I love you guys, I truly love you guys you bring joy to my heart and my head. You make me a more kinder person than I could ever be. Did I ever tell you… that I love you?
Sounds like when I retired my D&D character that made epic. I loved playing her, but it was very much a 'the game tells me' where I felt it on a personal level, not even the DM or anything about the campaign suggested it, but I felt in my heart her story was done being told. And it was a good story, and I was happy with it.
I somehow suspect that, "I was convinced by a UA-cam video", will be an unimpressive explanation to my bosses if I do end up quitting my job. Still, this was perfect for the journey that I am on right now and gave me a lot to think about.
I feel like endings can be nice? Especially ones that you expect are within your control. I say this as someone who looked very forward to undergraduate studies ending, unlike a lot of my peers who are nostalgic, and then also unlike my peers decided to go back to the same school for a graduate program. But also as someone who had been laid off, fired, and decided to quit a job because of my panic attacks after graduating, having the "your leaving means your time was a success" is therapeutic, like retraining my brain to rethink what's a success and what's failure.
However and whenever it ends, just know y'all have shared so much quality content and knowledge thoughout the years. Thank you for all you do.
You guys have been giving me heart palpitations with these titles recently. Nerdfighteria is getting older, don't cause a mass casualty event with titles like these 😂
John, you're so flippin' quick! Just one thing, I know you did it for comedic effect, but I hope you don't truly see yourself a second string player. The players in the field have the ability to change the game. Yes, Tom Brady has the ability to change the game the most, but as long as you're on the field you have a voice. You guys have a voice, and in my take, often the right one. As I'd say to Messi or D'Maria, enjoy your time on the field, it's been great to see you guys play! Thanks
My parasocial love for nerdfighteria will obviously live as long as I do no matter when the project ends. Maybe it will live even longer through stories I tell my children and the legacy of decreasing worldsuck. I'm just happy to be here while we're here, and to play my smol part in it. Cheers everyone ♡♡
UA-cam is changing everything has to. I want to watch people who love what they do and if they need to take a break or retire that’s fine. UA-cam is quickly approaching 20 years old and while it is amazing it has lasted this long people inevitably come and. UA-camrs I really enjoyed have gone Tom Scott Jenna Marbles. I’m hoping they develop their passion in different areas and happy they were able to make me laugh, and share a little part of themselves with me for a time. Here’s to the future, and the journey.
I just realized that I've started to watch your videos since 2011 and at that time my English wasn't so good. You guys have taught me a lot and you keep on doing so. I hope I can still get to learn from you in the next years❤
That’s awesome!
I appreciate what you both have done to create open educational resources, but I will respect when the day comes that you feel finished with UA-cam. A friend recently asked what I believe in (as I don't believe in a higher power in the conventional sense.) I said "I believe in Hank and John Green. I believe in making education accessible." It is now an inside joke that you two ARE my higher power. That being said, when it is your time to stop contributing in this way, I will still believe in what you did. You have my viewership and my faith.
John, I wanted to let you know how much the nerdfighteria community and the vlogbrothers channel have contributed to my growth as a person. I've been watching you since I was 15-ish, now I'm 22. You've been a greater source of knowledge, wisdom and morality on the issues in our world, than any book, personal advice or university course I've had.
For me, you're (the whole community) valuable because I think you're the best educators of how to be an informed, engaged and productive citizen of our world - as you once said (paraphrased a bit).
I know you probably don't like this sort of flattery but rest assured, I believe you and Hank have done an icnredible job in whatever this game is you're playing.
Vlogbrothers is not a show! You are not a competitor - neither of you has been as detached from your fans as shows and competitors are. As you've said many times, this is more than entertainment - this is a community. The question isn't how this show ends; it's how this **community** ends. I've always been a sucker for ride-or-die communities, so I personally think death is the only way to go.
Then again, above all, I and this community truly want ya'll to do what's best for your families. And if that's retiring, we'll support it. With how much ya'll have added to our lives, it's the very least we can do. But there's no way around the fact that it will be a loss. I don't think there's a pretty bow at the end of such a wonderful, powerful community. There's loss and, hopefully, gratitude for what was.
Thanks for the free cardio 😂
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That's a very optimistic take on heart palpitations 😆
+1 to you
I feel like often vlogbrothers videos seem to be "here's the big thing I was thinking about this week, so let me talk about that for a while," and I don't see John or Hank as the type to stop thinking about things, or to stop wanting to share those thoguhts with people. If anything I could see the editing and uploading becoming tedious, but vlogbrothers becoming a 1 minute vlog filmed and uploaded from an Iphone would retain 95% of the value for me. A "John/Hank reads his 8 tweets from this week, plus some rambling about what he was thinking," situation. Honestly, I dont see an excess of kind, thoughtful creators on the platform at the moment, so maybe the sign you are done is when everyone groans and goes "crap, anooothheerr thoughtful and well intentioned video with engaging social commentary."
We'll all respect the ending of the project, but you better believe we're all nerdfighters for life
... You're building up to it, aren't you?
It's coming.
Looming.
You don't want to rip off the band aid because you don't want to do that to us, so you're preparing us slowly.
The 2024 year end recap is going to look back at this month as the “Remember when all the UA-cam creators teased/threatened to retire and the masses were suddenly struck with the existential dread of not having their constant fix of reliable content?” period, and I just wanna say I called it.
We shall see. I wish I could do a remindme!
This is kind of a blindingly idiotic and clumsily shallow analysis of why youtubers are leaving youtube. I expected better from you, John. Guess those streamer bucks can make a youtube shill out of anyone these days.
I’m glad you still love the game, because I love watching you both play!!
Meu deus John, nem consigo acreditar que consegui achar o canal do autor do meu livro favorito, "Quem é você, Alasca ?" está sendo um livro muito importante pra mim. Um grande abraço do Brasil 🇧🇷✌️
Meanwhile Dan and Phil are back from a hiatus that we all thought was the end…
And Anthony came back to Smosh last year.
Life really is something
"I'm not retiring" rapidly outpacing "I'm retiring" as a genre on UA-cam
you guys will find a way to so beautifully walk this community through the process by the time the game is done we will thank you for the ending
You have another possible ending: your time in the project is over. Like the game, vlogbrothers may, perhaps, outlast your time with it. It may tell you that you are done playing, but go on being played. I do not mean to say it will be the same without you, or that you should start looking for another two people to hand vlogbrothers over to, or anything of the sort. But you might consider the possibility. I don't think that's how vlogbrothers will end, and I don't think I specifically want it to be, either, but I do think that there will always be a place for *a* vlogbrothers, even if you two aren't *the* vlogbrothers. I hope whatever answer you settle on you're happy with, because I trust that if you're satisfied with your answer, it's the right one. Don't decline to consider any possible answers, don't pick one after consideration you don't think is right. I agree, everything we make should end, and it should have the right ending. Endings are the most important start of the story, I think, right up there with the beginning. You've already had such a great journey, and when the time approaches I look forward to the inevitable end of your vlogbrothers, because, as long as you trust the ending, it will be among the best endings to nearly anything in life. Happy Tuesday.
Hey personally I'm proof the titles work. I love John and Hank and have been keeping up with their other content here and there. But this is the first UA-cam vid I've watched in a very long time lol.
Politics is something nobody wants to get into as it has a bad habit of torpedoing someone's career. Too many people, both sides of the political spectrum, subscribe to "cancel culture". That being "I don't like what you said this one time, so I will stop supporting you forever", but seeing how effective your opinion on tuberculosis was at changing a company's actions, makes me wonder how much of an effect you would have on our world if you stepped into politics. You and Hank are well known for being caring individuals and are both well spoken I would find it hard to deny any position you took regardless of which end of the spectrum you took. Hope you find this and hope you have some interesting thoughts to share on it.
first omg the video title is terrifying
Imagine if it did end in death, though. "I will NOT see you on Friday, because you're dead"
Or maybe a more touching "If there is another world for us when this one is spent, I'll see you there"
I see the existential crises have extended to the video titles, so now we can all share in them!
I hope, however this goes, that the exit of this project is of your choosing.
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To be honest, this ending in death would be incredibly on brand. Or with one of you on mars. Or playing for AFC Wimbledon.
I just got here! You can’t retire anytime soon. I just started this game.
You know know i was actually thinking about how for a lot of UA-camrs UA-cam is more like a "step into" something else. Which is fine, but UA-camrs like you guys do this cause well... You like doing it. And i think that is really cool and there should be people like that in the platform
I don’t want this, or many other games, to ever end but I know & accept that there will be a time when they do. All I can hope is that I’ll be ready for it as well.
The west wing was 7 seasons! It also remains my favorite show ever.
Whenever it is, you both know that we'll be sad to see it go.
listen if you need to stop that's ok, but please just rip off the bandaid/put our minds at ease by telling us at the TOP of the video whether or not you're quitting. terrifying us for 4 minutes 2 videos in a row just feels really shitty and like a cruel trick to get more views.