Let's celebrate June with some silly juice and chat about queerness, content creation, joke writing, compassion, scrambled eggs, and accidental representation.
I know Quinn didn’t talk quite as much as Scott and Jesse, but as a gay man who’s also pretty subdued and “mild” compared to some of my other queer friends (literally all my pride shirts are black with rainbow letters on them), I appreciated him being there to represent the gays of few words 😊
THERE’S ONE THING A SAIYAN NEVER LOSES: *H I S P R I D E* EDIT: And now that I’ve tricked you all into liking this, can someone tell Scott, Quinn and Jesse to do more pride podcast/talks like these in the replies? In these times, for this month; we kinda need it..
@@BababooeyGooey yeah, turns out it's not the quality or truthiness of an idea that makes it desirable. Looking back on it it was kind of naive to assume allowing any anonymous tom, dick and harry to comment on everything would result in anything other than a shit show.
@@zenaku666 The intention being that nobody had the right to tell you, that you weren't allowed to have those ideas as long as they did not infringe on the rights of others not that all ideas were equal, only equitable. The promise of equity is a noble promise, one I can be behind. We also have to accept that with that promise, comes with the very real fact not every idea is a good idea. Better then the alternative, imo.
I'm sorry, _that's Nowacking?_ Man it's been YEARS, I still remember when that screen name was attached to a Vinyl Scratch voice. What a total transformation, live your best life dude, I'm so happy for you!
"f**goty andy and on the raggity anne" is one of my favorite Vegeta lines. Vegeta is evil, he says bad shit. him getting immediate punishment is just icing on the cake
As a an actual f**got, fuck you that line is HILARIOUS and Vegeta is an anti-hero.. NOT EVIL. He's a smug prick and gets his shit handed to him when he is overconfident.
I find it hilarious that one of Kaiser's ex's was an ex boyfriend who transitioned and became an ex girlfriend and is now named amethyst because that exact scenario happened to me lmfao
When I said that for some reason I immediately thought of Hellsing Abridged and just for some dumb reason imagined both his parents as Anderson, reading the note and just disowning him, not for being gay, but for making his problems known in a protestant way lmao.
@@brookejon3695I meant musically. Usually the stereotype is that gay people like sing songs and are good at it so the fun irony and subversion is there with Stephan singing it as a straight cis man with an impeccable singing voice
"Years later you'll learn their real name." I had been married to my wife for almost a decade before she learned how to actually pronounce my real name. She'd seen it written down, but we always (ALWAYS!) used nicknames or screen names for one another when we talked, whether in text or on the phone.
Yo, as a little gay kid finding out scott is gay ment the world to me. I didn't feel alone because I am one of the only out queer person in my family. I was like 10 when I started questioning, and I was scared out of my mind. But scott being himself helped me in more than even I thought. Thank you all for being yourselves and still helping me to this day, not feeling alone.
@@jakobrose8278 hey now This is good ole Prince '5 dicks' Vegeta If he hasn't had a couple of em used Gayway than he's wasting his potential. This joke partially brought to you by the Ye Olde Days of TFS gaming
Hey.....anyone else think scott looks wildly different without a hat? I mean he is handsome as FUCK either way its just an observation, like no hat is business Scott
@@brandoneridan2033 and ppl say the Clark Kent disguise would never work. But yeah, thing is we are so used to seeing hat Scott, he takes off the hat… and bam.
i don’t drink, and when i did i didn’t to mixed drinks often, but rum and root beer sounds damn delicious. rum and ginger ale is surprisingly good, too
A shot of 1/3 Amaretto and 2/3 Bacardi 151 ignited and dropped into six ounces of malt liquor. We called that a "Flaming Dr Pepper" when I was at JMU. That's what boys drink 🙃
I'm a cis white guy that was raised in a bigoted, racist home. Unfortunately, i held those beliefs until i was almost 20. Thankfully, I met people outside of my little bubble and learned that everyone is just a person trying to get by in life, like I am. My social circle was completely destroyed, but I wanted to surround myself with more open minded folks. And I'm so glad that I did. The friends I've made since have been absolutely the best people I've personally known, and I'm forever grateful to have them in my life. I'm living proof that people can change for the better. We can all be better. And if anyone reading this feels down, know that I'd give you a big ass hug if i could, and that you matter!
This was one of the most wholesome things I have ever seen from TFS and it means so much to hear other members of this community talk about their experiences for being LGBTQ just honestly thank you
lgbtq is a trend a group you decide to belong to, tehy do not exist, tehyr idears do not exist, theyr reasoning as far as i can see does fall flat, they are openly dillusional and no one should and will accept such a stupid group, i never accepted emo more then them being some idiots either.
Scott's comment of "it doesn't matter if I understand it because they're happy now." Exactly mimics my own experience. And I'll be honest I still don't fully understand. I don't even really "get" what gender even is. But it doesn't matter if I understand it or not, It makes them happy, and that's all I need to know to support it.
this is a great attitude to have, and i wish more people saw us this way! gender and sex stuff is complicated, and for people who spent their whole lives never thinking about it it can be hard to understand. and that's okay! what matters is treating others with respect, and i appreciate that you do so
I think part of the issue with "getting" it is that it's not something that most cis people ever really have to think about or deal with. It's hard to notice something if nothing's wrong. But yes, whether or not someone "gets" gender identity is infinitely less important than the tangible positive effects transitioning has on a trans person's life (and if the effect isn't positive, it's almost always because of the people around them being shitty).
This. I truly can't imagine seeing trans people being happy with themselves and their identity and thinking: *"that's not a good thing because I don't get it and it makes me uncomfortable"* People who think like this are absolutely miserable, it's awful to see this mindset spread so far. I think every cis person should just accept that they don't need to understand it to support it, because either way people are going to be better for it.
I'm a straight, white dude and I watched this whole thing for 2 reasons. #1- I'm a fan of you all. Thanks for plenty of entertainment over the years and I hope to see many more. #2- While I've never had any problem with any LGBTQIA+ people I only know a few gay people and no trans people personally so I was genuinely curious to hear your stories and learn more. I'm happy that you're happy. Happy Pride Month everybody.
As a straight guy myself, and without any LGBT people in my personal life, I know very little about this stuff and the only lens I can usually see it through is _online discussions,_ which tend to be... well, unhelpful at best, and belligerent in both directions at worst. It's so great to hear people talking openly and civilly about these subjects and just being people about it. This was both informative and refreshing to listen to. Keep on bein' awesome, TFS.
Respect man, same here. I don’t like certain gay people that make it their personality, but the ones I like are the ones who actually have something to say about their decisions 👍
@@brookejon3695 I mean... statistically it's not that odd. Maybe acquaintances since that is a larger pool, but LGBT is still cumulatively around 6-8%. There is only around a 60% chance that a group of 12-14 people have a single LGBT individual.
Hey, I just recently accepted that I'm trans and I'm struggling to come out to my family and start transitioning. A mostly positive honest talk about being queer and how things get better when you become yourself is just what I needed now. Really, thank you a lot for this.
Hope it goes well and that your transition is smooth. I recently went through the same thing and while it's definitely scary, making sure you love yourself and feel comfortable as who you really are should take top priority. Take care of yourself!
Coming out to family will always be a struggle. My parents are very accepting people and are very non judgmental but it took me a long time to tell them I’m pan. Take the time you need but live your life as your true self homie!
Mind if I ask you a question about your personal situation and how you came to your decision to transition? I've got nothing against it, I just don't understand and would like to try. Imo people should be free to do whatever they want to seek happiness, with the only limit on that freedom being whether or not excercising it limits the freedom of others to do the same. Just so you know where I'm coming from.
35:36 That's fucking impressive that you lost so much weight Kaiser. How the hell did you get from 340 down to what you are now? Was it push-ups, sit-ups and plenty of juice?
It’s always diet and exercise (2) The ‘ diet’ being a focus on actual NUTRITION. WHAT WE NEED/DON’T NEED. Avoiding garbage like added sugars, and filling yourself with protein, greens, grains. Etc. That’s the way.
@@ViltrumiteIsRite99it's much more difficult than just eating right there are many different factors a big issue here where I live is typically the food that's bad for you is more reasonably priced than the healthier alternatives
@@CalKirst-zz4wv Sure, it’s only part of the equation when we’re talking about lifestyle, but it’s still the bottom line. Those microwaveables might be affordable here and there, but they’ll be the same reason you’re inflamed and bloated there and here.
40:25 as a very tall (and apparently somewhat intimidating?!?) Trans woman, I correct like, 60 people a day, with just a simple “hey I’m not a sir” or “Can you please not call me a male” in a calm tone, even when someone looks up my dead name to dead name me, I still just say “ Please don’t do that”, We aren’t animals, we’re people, please treat us as such
From what I heard, his husband didn't know at first. He found out the day Kaiser proposed. It lead to a huge fight and they almost broke up, but the day before the wedding, they made up and now Kaiser's husband supports him for who he is. Considering they dated for 10 years before marrying, I'm glad they had a happy ending. Buy hey, I just heard this from the grapevine. Don't quote me on this.
Conversation, I'm not normally a person who cares about typos but I think we should keep the word conversion as far away from pride month as possible 😭
i once read a story about a gay kid in the mid 1900s who would call gay bars from across the country just to listen to other gays being social because his home life was so rough. Now, my situation isnt nearly as bad, but as a trans bisexual in a long distance relationship, you guys became my gay bar for the last hour. It's making me nearly cry how special it's been to just finally hear people close to my age talk in a way i understand for once
Not related to the topic at hand but on the side topic of the influence you have as public figures, Scott you helped me really get healthy over all. It was a random conversation you had with Ben in one of the No More Heroes videos but you talking about your journey to improve yourself both physically and mentally, about how you can't just ignore your short comings on the grounds of well everyone should like you for who you are that for some reason struck a cord with me. It spurred me to drop about 80lbs over the course of about 2 years and it drastically improved my health and gave me more confidence in my ability to accomplish things. Thank you!
As someone who figured out they were a transgender woman, Jesse was/is a great inspiration and I've appreciated his presence on the team and how you've interacted with him.
I just found out a friend of mine is gay (not like they came out, but like I just legitimately did not know) and he was in shocked and told our other co-workers that I didn't know. I told him they come in all colors and sizes so I just genuinely don't care just so long as you're happy. He was surprised but at the same time not that surprised, so I summed it up to a classic joke: Me: Anybody could be gay nowadays. That police officer, some of your friends, the cashier, that guy sucking your dick. Person: But he said No Homo... Me: He lied And we both had a good laugh
I'm here I'm Queer and I... Would actually just like to take an honest second and say that all the "poor taste" jokes made by TFS over the years have not only helped me come to terms with who i am, but have also just always been funny to me. I have never once NOT laughed at Freaky Alien Genotype, and other queers at my high school actually adopted that phrase as a codeword. TFS really has helped me in my journey to trans my gender. I appreciate you guys. It has been an AMAZING 15 years and i look forward to even more.
I have been going through my own stuff and it feels like the first pride month where I have been openly pan to myself and most people in my life. So this video came out at the right time for me. Thank you TFS for being a great source of entertainment and helping me deal with life. God bless you all.
I had no idea this Jesse was actually Nowacking. I stopped watching him a long time ago because I lost interest in the community I knew him from, and that was just about when he first came out to his audience. He really has come a long way since I last watched his content, and I can’t help but feel kinda proud for him… which, considering what month we’re in, that’s very appropriate.
And yes, I am referring to his time as the definitive voice of Vinyl Scratch, to the point that the character couldn’t even have a voice in the show itself because his voice as her was too iconic.
That line went hard 😂 and needs to be on shirts and bumper stickers. I'm gonna remember that one for later because, unfortunately, there will be a "later"
As a trans person, I find the transmission joke extremely funny. But lowkey I appreciate that Kaiser is the sort of person who regrets it and wants to make it better.
I'm in the same boat with you, I thought it was funny, definitely pushing the envelope. It's one of those jokes where is a queer person find it funny and appreciates it in a different way than probably a cis-het person would. It falls into the same category of humor as the first use of freaky alien genotype, in my opinion. You can make it homophobic if you're a bad person, but really it's just wordplay.
Honestly I can't stand it. Kaiser is perpetuating a culture of posturing and self hatred that's not helping the left's cause as much as they think. The "grown up empath," is a cult of narcissism poisoning the world with their false enlightenment. Man the fuck up Kaiser. You did nothing wrong.
This video was amazing. As a fan of TeamFourStar and the content that you all have put out over the years, this was just fantastic. I'm glad that I was able to learn more about you all and have a better understanding of who you all are as individuals.
The heterosexual delegation acknowledges your request, but must insist you take your lemon bar supplication to the Alliance of Aces, as they control the citrus dividends.
@@Wolfbane192as a representative of the pan delegation, i regret to inform you that the shortage of lemon bars is absolutely on us because keeping up with the snack requests from so many other delegations has left the kitchen completely swamped. we will get them out to you as soon as we can
Honestly this was so lovely to watch...my most favorite part about the abridged commentary is honestly you guys reflecting on some of your older jokes and how you could have phrased it better to not punch down anyone My second most favorite thing is every time I hear Scott talk about his husband...it's just so darn cute ❤
Hearing Scott talk about him learning about trans people made me happy. I recently accepted myself as trans/enby, and I found that thinking of it like that helped me when I started to really explore it. Being referred to in a feminine way makes me really fucking happy. I still like my male attributes, but leaning more into the fem puts a big fucking smile on my face. I hope that by this time next year I'm exploring it in physical space as well, not just through Vtubing.
Happy Pride, everyone. I'm not really supposed to talk about details but... Thank you for giving visibility to trans men. ETA: Remember that time when the shirt came off and kaiser was uwu
TFS, kicking trans women off the team because the sign says "no girls allowed". :P j/k, love y'all and you guys rock. -signed, a longtime fan who just recently realized she's a trans gal
I'm glad I decided to watch this video. I'm one of those people who said a lot of bigoted things as a teenager to get a rise out of people, as much as I hate to admit it. Seeing acceptance and understanding relating to growing out of that phase like I've tried to makes me feel a lot better as strange as that may sound, and it makes me feel more welcome as an ally.
As someone who is trans, I know that feel. I grew up in dirt-ass West Texas where slurs were considered peak comedy. I said some truly stupid shit from the ages of 16-23, and I die a little more inside every time I remember.
May I ask why you said stuff like that to get a rise out of people? And not as a confrontational question, I'm genuinely curious about the psychology behind it when you were a teen.
prideflag is bullsht. talking about gay is bullsht. that every gay person is born gay is bullshit. those are facts most are mentally depraced and deeply hurt souls nothing else but these things make us up and you just have to deal with it and be you. having this gendertalk however, a prideflag, a pridemonth, stuff that are gay stuff that are straight evereything is absolute bullsht. you eitehr are or are not, do you know why you often cnat tell if someone is legitimate gay? because no one talks about being straight either thats your private if it becomes a topic you can just tell how it is. its allways all done the wrong way around always ppl shortcircuiting and being absolute morons about everything. if someoene has a phobia against a certain kidn of people theyr idiots. if someone is pridful of existing they are idiots. theyr all equally IDIOTS i dont care just shut the fk up its not even worth being a topic just get teh guys who do crime of low motifs behind bars, if tehy hurt someoen hurt them double nothing complicated about it just all shut the hell up and be fking normal for once.
Theres been some scary regression in how society feels about these topics in the last few years, so I appreciate you posting this even if I'm cis and straight.
I definitely agree with Kaiser and the comments here. It doesn't matter whether or not I understand any of it. If it makes them happy, that's all I need to know to support them. Love you guys!
Vegeta: What is this? I was told this was about pride. Why are there rainbows. There's nothing Saiyan about a rainbow. Unless... Yes, I see it now. I shall achieve Super Saiyan Rainbow.
@@D_C763 I'm a cis guy who's into women only, but I just like hearing these guys talk, especially about this. After seeing people in the LGBT community be toxic on Twitter lately, this is a good reminder that NOT EVERYONE in the LGBT Community wants to argue, just to argue.
As someone who grew up thinking edgy = funny, and not really understanding a lot about the jokes I was making/laughing at, I take so much pride now in being a part of a friend group (in my early 20s) that has people in my age range and a bit younger(16-20) that I can properly discuss and inform them on topics of this matter. I feel as though discussing things like this and telling them of the experiences of people who feel differently to what they understand helps them mature and be so much kinder and I think videos like this do such good work at helping people who may be confused on things like this to understand and be more considerate. Tl;dr I love this video and videos of this format/topic discussion. Hatred is usually a result of ignorance. Happy Pride Month everyone :)
Jesse saying he attempted 2 times before transition hit me hard. I had attempted a few times as well before transitioning and all i knew about trans stuff is what conservatives were screaming about. I'm so glad i looked into it on my own and even though i deal with a lot more harassment online now than i did before I'm happier than i have ever been.
To expand a little bit on what Scott said about it being okay to detransition, it's also totally fine to come out as trans, but at a later date explore your gender even more. It's not always just full binary transition or detransition, there's people who find their gender identities somewhere outside of the the binary after coming out as trans. Tldr: it's okay to explore your identity more than once, and you don't have to stick to either being cis or trans
i have come out as trans but also still consider myself genderfluid, it's just that i'd like to transition to the other side of the scale of that fluidity since that side is more prevalent and presenting femme while the base is male is harder than presenting masc while the base is female, since even when i want to present masc it's still near a sort of femboy way anyway. So yeah, totally valid to continue gender exploration even after coming out as trans and transitioning
As someone who's never been around very many folks who were gay, trans, etc, I feel like you 3 are the most genuine folks I've gotten to know of. As always, hope you're all doing well and know that I appreciate all you've done throughout the years 💖💖💖
13:45 I vibe with "Training Wheels Trans". I'm not gay or trans, so I cannot directly relate to either experiences. However, I am both Asexual and Autistic. And there are a lot of questions and assumptions that come with both. Being an Asexual male with a lot of sexual guy friends, I often have to be the teacher that explains the whole Aro-Ace space for them.
I'm genderfluid and I very much appreciate you guys and your dedication to being cool as fuck about LGBTQ issues. It's so incredibly hard being queer right now, and as someone who still hasn't been able to come out to a majority of people it's nice to see people be so open and comfortable about being who they are. Love you guys (no homo).
Also gonna use this as a platform to say can we please get the pride shirts with more flags? Idk the logistics of making that work but I'd def buy a genderfluid one (or even a NB one because genderfluid kinda falls under that)
🤝🤝!!! i'm genderfluid too actually!!!!!! so cool to see someone else like me here lol- and YEAH i was thinking the same thing about pride shirts, i'd buy a genderfluid or intersexual pride print SO quick lmao
@@callie-flower3177 It always makes me so happy meeting other genderfluid people! I feel like I'm a single person floating in a big ocean sometimes but seeing other people be open about it helps me bring myself back to reality.
Yay genderfluid gang :D i have the luck to live in a very progressive country, but yeah it hurts to see how some other parts of the world are doing at the moment, all the best to you in your journey coming out and hope you will find the support you need :D
I know this has probably been said several times in these comments already, but I don't think it can be said enough. Thank you so much for doing this. It's always great to see support for the community especially from people who have had as large an impact on internet culture as TFS. I would love to see more stuff like this during future pride months/special occasions.
I came out as Bi 8 years ago and honestly never felt welcome in the community, I despite my sexuality still have very traditional values and never felt the need to change how I acted how I talked or how I presented myself. I am still being told "Your not Bi", "You don't get a say in this community." or "You don't act queer enough to be LGBTQ+." and honestly it hurts when I see my boyfriend enjoying pride with all his friends but when it he is not in the room I get the dirtiest looks they can give me and I can't say a thing because I know it would ruin his relationship with his friends if I did, I have resigned myself to dealing just doing nothing about it I value his happiness because his happiness brings me more joy then his friends can bring me pain
Kay but it kinda sounds like he has toxic friends. It can't be good for him, being unaware of their hidden prejudices. And yeah, maybe knowing the truth would affect his relationship with them, but maybe it should.
@@GreaterSeraphI’m sorry that you’ve dealt with such bs and accusations that you’re a phony. It’s ridiculous that others rely on stereotypes to “read” if someone is queer or not (I’m pan myself and people have always assumed I’m weird anyway and I’ve found practically a lot of people of any gender interested and even attractive since I was young. Being brought up in a sheltered yet traumatic life, I was always under the assumption that gay was weird and abnormal and just something to laugh at and not take seriously. But the more I learned and how uncomfortable I’ve gotten when anyone I dont know gets too close and I dont know how to respond besides just run or shut down and the more hurt I see when those of the queer community are being attacked just by existing, i felt like shit. When I got to college I just stuck with theatre because it was the closest thing I felt to genuine happiness and wanted to try any role I can get my hands on. More people tried to get too close and even pushed my buttons to get a rise out of me. I reacted badly and wanted to run or go with the flow. The results were hit and miss. It wasn’t till I was more comfortable with trying new things and finding the beauty in a lot of what I originally thought was absurd, the more I comfortable I was being in just being genuinely happy and seeing a lot of the humor in how stupid the ignorance is. Jesse coming out as trans was one of the inspiring points in my life (as well as when I dated a couple of non-binary folks that I had feelings for and enjoyed being with) that I started out as uncomfortably straight to comfortably straight and now to pansexual. Anyone that can’t deal with that are free to leave me alone. As for your partner, you’re so awesome for putting their feelings and happiness first but they want to make sure you’re happy too. Their friends have no right to judge you or accuse you of not being bi simply because you don’t fit their mold. If they disrespect you, it’s also disrespecting your partner who they claim to be their friend. Your feelings matter too and always will.
Literally stopped and reread the name "nowacking" 10 times. Genuinely thought I was mixing people up. I haven't seen that name since mid MLP era and wow. I'm so happy for you and glad to see things are going great.
I'm always thrilled to see anybody find a way to stop *enduring* and start LIVING! It doesn't even matter whether you "understand" somebody's identity or not, you just have to treat them as a fellow human being.
I was going to write this when you got to the Broly movie commentary, but this seems like a better video to write it under. Team Four Star helped give me the courage to come out to my friends. So back in 2012/13 I watched one of your videos (I can't remember specifics, it was a while ago) where Scott mentioned he was gay, and it wasn't just the fact that Scott was and is openly gay, it's that you felt comfortable with that aspect of yourself in front of your friends, and that for everyone else it was a complete non-issue. And that basically cemented for me that if my friends are good friends and good people thay're going to be supportive of me. So thank you
Personally loved Jesse before, and continue to love after. He is just the kind of chaotic energy we all suppress inside and are often too scared to let show.
I love the teams work and a few of you have even inspired me to try and better myself.... I have a long way to go because 25+ years of dysphoria, clinical depression, adhd, bad habits from neglectful and narcissistic parents and etc does not good social skills or hygiene make. However, as of last year, I came out as trans to online friends and have been working on improving said issues. I have a basic hygiene routine going on with some really nice soaps, I have clothing I feel happy in when I wear them around my place (though I'm not comfy going out in public) I've been seeking the care I need to reverse some of the "damage" from said bad habits, I got into content creation and have my own little social circle full of good beans that do their best to support me. It's been a rough journey and I have a long way to go, especially due to a lack of local support, but seeing you three openly talk about Pride, being trans, etc just reminds me of how far I've come and, how much happier I am when I can be myself.
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I can't believe you guys focused on the "scrambled eggs" part of the Fraser theme when "tossed salad" is mentioned immediately before it.
First you toss the salad, then you scramble the eggs. 😉
They seem a bit confused, well maybe, but they get pegged...
This is my favorite
@@totz_the_plaid9625 fantastic
@@totz_the_plaid9625 but I don’t know what to do with those tossed salads and scrambled eggs
The internet has completely rotted my brain I was staring at the pride tfs shirt wondering why they have a tier list branded t shirt
lol
OMG I WASNT THE ONLY ONE!
MY MAN!
society + inetrenet = every mentally depravity and illness known to man
I know Quinn didn’t talk quite as much as Scott and Jesse, but as a gay man who’s also pretty subdued and “mild” compared to some of my other queer friends (literally all my pride shirts are black with rainbow letters on them), I appreciated him being there to represent the gays of few words 😊
Not all gay men are peacocks. Some are sloths just chillin in the corner, not movin, not talkin. Just hanging out and vibing :p
THERE’S ONE THING A SAIYAN NEVER LOSES:
*H I S P R I D E*
EDIT: And now that I’ve tricked you all into liking this, can someone tell Scott, Quinn and Jesse to do more pride podcast/talks like these in the replies?
In these times, for this month; we kinda need it..
FAAAAACCCCTTTTSSSS
Super Saiyan Rainbow
A famous quote from Blowjob Princess
Pay attention to "His pride" part
"More like Saiyan Pride Parade, amirite?"
"I tried to engage in earnest debate at first" ah, classic rookie mistake
The Free Marketplace of Ideas, almost as big of a scam as the regular Free Market.
@@BababooeyGooey yeah, turns out it's not the quality or truthiness of an idea that makes it desirable. Looking back on it it was kind of naive to assume allowing any anonymous tom, dick and harry to comment on everything would result in anything other than a shit show.
@@zenaku666
The intention being that nobody had the right to tell you, that you weren't allowed to have those ideas as long as they did not infringe on the rights of others not that all ideas were equal, only equitable.
The promise of equity is a noble promise, one I can be behind. We also have to accept that with that promise, comes with the very real fact not every idea is a good idea. Better then the alternative, imo.
I'm sorry, _that's Nowacking?_
Man it's been YEARS, I still remember when that screen name was attached to a Vinyl Scratch voice. What a total transformation, live your best life dude, I'm so happy for you!
"f**goty andy and on the raggity anne" is one of my favorite Vegeta lines. Vegeta is evil, he says bad shit. him getting immediate punishment is just icing on the cake
As an LGBTQ person I always thought that line was fucking hilarious
It’s a great line and totally one he would say wishing DBZA
As a an actual f**got, fuck you that line is HILARIOUS and Vegeta is an anti-hero.. NOT EVIL. He's a smug prick and gets his shit handed to him when he is overconfident.
Yeah It’s funny if it weren’t so pathetic. But of course he’s funny AND pathetic, so it works out.
What does it mean exactly? I remember the line from the show but are Anne and Andy a reference to something? And what does on the raggity mean?
WHERE'S YOUR PRIDE KAKAROT?
That should be put on a shirt
I find it hilarious that one of Kaiser's ex's was an ex boyfriend who transitioned and became an ex girlfriend and is now named amethyst because that exact scenario happened to me lmfao
maybe you two are eskimo brothers
So, did they date again after the transition? Or did the title change from ex-boyfriend to ex-girlfriend?
@@sandshark2517 in how Scott was referring to it, I believe just a title change.
most of teh storys is absolute degeneracy and mentally fucked up nothing strange.
@@sandshark2517if he knew he was gay when he was a kid like the vid says pretty sure ex girlfriend is the correct term nowadays.
"Eggs are gay now"
And that's why they're the first food i could ever make
You can make eggs? Are you some kind of Lizzardman? or Slugman? or some kind of Bird?
@@muffinn1337 What about a platypus
@@muffinn1337 shit I've been found out abort abort
That "the protestant way" joke was severely underappreciated. Scott is the Martin Luther of being gay
Instead of nailing things up, he just gets nailed by his husband!
@@kuramaconlike the 95 theses
@@kuramacon We don't even have those.
Man I waited for it to come up in the video and was not disappointed it was worth the spoiler here for it
When I said that for some reason I immediately thought of Hellsing Abridged and just for some dumb reason imagined both his parents as Anderson, reading the note and just disowning him, not for being gay, but for making his problems known in a protestant way lmao.
I love how the straight guy in the room did the pitch perfect rendition of the Fraiser opening. Fuck stereotypes and Stephan has a beautiful voice!
I'm sorry, is there a straighter thing than enjoying Fraser?
It's so straight I can't even spell it lmao. And I just noticed neither can you 😂
@@brookejon3695I meant musically. Usually the stereotype is that gay people like sing songs and are good at it so the fun irony and subversion is there with Stephan singing it as a straight cis man with an impeccable singing voice
@@mathew_monkbot1018
Got kind of a lounge undertone to his voice, it was fantastic.
@@brookejon3695 I mean kissing your homies good night is pretty straight ngl
"Years later you'll learn their real name."
I had been married to my wife for almost a decade before she learned how to actually pronounce my real name. She'd seen it written down, but we always (ALWAYS!) used nicknames or screen names for one another when we talked, whether in text or on the phone.
probably means you didnt acre much about your own name either i would assume
@@SlaughtingIdiots Not inaccurate xD
Best part is, my wife's name is literally my name backwards, and my husband's name is my pre-adoption birth name
There’s one thing a Saiyan always keeps! His priiiiiiide!
Vegeta, an ally since the Buu Saga.
Yo, as a little gay kid finding out scott is gay ment the world to me. I didn't feel alone because I am one of the only out queer person in my family. I was like 10 when I started questioning, and I was scared out of my mind. But scott being himself helped me in more than even I thought. Thank you all for being yourselves and still helping me to this day, not feeling alone.
There's one thing a saiyan always keeps, HIS PRIDE!!
@@Ki_Adi_Mundi Don't be that guy, especially not over a joke jesus christ
That was awful!
Boo!!... Boooooooo!!!
@ Finn
Vegeta must love June.
An entire month dedicated to his center
@@jakobrose8278 hey now
This is good ole Prince '5 dicks' Vegeta
If he hasn't had a couple of em used Gayway than he's wasting his potential.
This joke partially brought to you by the Ye Olde Days of TFS gaming
For Vegeta, every month is pride month
The line about Allies using they/them as a spare tire pronoun is hilarious 🔥🔥
"I'm reading your Twitter bio right now, what are your pronouns, bitch?"
i came here for dbza, I stayed for the entertainment
Stayed for the amazing people and entertainment, you mean.
Hey.....anyone else think scott looks wildly different without a hat? I mean he is handsome as FUCK either way its just an observation, like no hat is business Scott
He literally looks like a different person
@@brandoneridan2033 and ppl say the Clark Kent disguise would never work. But yeah, thing is we are so used to seeing hat Scott, he takes off the hat… and bam.
It’s amazing.
Half the time, especially if he doesn't have a TFS logo in his vicinity, I don't recognize him without a hat.
He really captures the business Trunks vibe, further reiterating he was the perfect pick for the role. ❤
As a trans person I can not express how much I want a shirt saying "I was forcibly transed by Team Four Star"
@@Zeroasshats my god could you be more annoying ?
As a cis person, I'd wear that shirt just to confuse the bigots around me
@@Zeroasshats Wow, didn't realize I was still baby sized. Here I thought I'd gotten a lot bigger since I was borhn.
@@Zeroasshats Guess my puberty didn’t do shit
So you could say they caused an... instant tansition! :D
I'll show myself out.
Bro really out here drinking fireball and dr.pepper like a proper texan window licker. Happy pride
As a Texan Window Licker, mine is Pibb and tequila.
The flavors compliment each other, dammit!
“The A in LGBTQIA stands for arms” joke is hilarious and as an asexual/aromantic person I give full permission to change it to that
Can we reclaim the “T” slur, for the sole purpose of making scott not feel bad about the car joke.
This is what I call a good father's day video, an extra long video with Daddy Neko.
I'm gonna need a coffee to be as cozy as I can when watching this.
“fireball and dr pepper cuz i - like a baby” i “invented” that drink when i was 18
Fireball and Dr Pepper is great. But have any of y’all tried Rum and Root Beer? Thank me later.
i don’t drink, and when i did i didn’t to mixed drinks often, but rum and root beer sounds damn delicious.
rum and ginger ale is surprisingly good, too
A shot of 1/3 Amaretto and 2/3 Bacardi 151 ignited and dropped into six ounces of malt liquor. We called that a "Flaming Dr Pepper" when I was at JMU. That's what boys drink 🙃
@@andrewlevin7586 You beautiful son of a bitch you just opened my eyes to a magic I thought impossible
@@Willowposting You’re welcome.
I'm a cis white guy that was raised in a bigoted, racist home. Unfortunately, i held those beliefs until i was almost 20. Thankfully, I met people outside of my little bubble and learned that everyone is just a person trying to get by in life, like I am. My social circle was completely destroyed, but I wanted to surround myself with more open minded folks. And I'm so glad that I did. The friends I've made since have been absolutely the best people I've personally known, and I'm forever grateful to have them in my life.
I'm living proof that people can change for the better. We can all be better.
And if anyone reading this feels down, know that I'd give you a big ass hug if i could, and that you matter!
Also, as a dad, if your own father has rejected you for whatever reason, you've got a supportive dad right here.
Love
@@zlink88 You're a bloody great person. Not just for changing your vies, but for also being supportive of people dealing with crappy parents.
@@sir_fuckwit thanks, I appreciate that :)
@@zlink88 You're welcome, and I just realized that I have a typo.
I can't believe you're forcing this down my throat with this video I read the title of and willingly clicked on
If supporting human rights is "shoving politics down people's throats," then imma choke a bitch.
This was one of the most wholesome things I have ever seen from TFS and it means so much to hear other members of this community talk about their experiences for being LGBTQ just honestly thank you
lgbtq is a trend a group you decide to belong to, tehy do not exist, tehyr idears do not exist, theyr reasoning as far as i can see does fall flat, they are openly dillusional and no one should and will accept such a stupid group, i never accepted emo more then them being some idiots either.
Scott's comment of "it doesn't matter if I understand it because they're happy now." Exactly mimics my own experience. And I'll be honest I still don't fully understand. I don't even really "get" what gender even is. But it doesn't matter if I understand it or not, It makes them happy, and that's all I need to know to support it.
um i just wanted to say thank you so much for being you.
this is a great attitude to have, and i wish more people saw us this way! gender and sex stuff is complicated, and for people who spent their whole lives never thinking about it it can be hard to understand. and that's okay! what matters is treating others with respect, and i appreciate that you do so
Gender is just a constructed illusion.
I think part of the issue with "getting" it is that it's not something that most cis people ever really have to think about or deal with. It's hard to notice something if nothing's wrong. But yes, whether or not someone "gets" gender identity is infinitely less important than the tangible positive effects transitioning has on a trans person's life (and if the effect isn't positive, it's almost always because of the people around them being shitty).
This.
I truly can't imagine seeing trans people being happy with themselves and their identity and thinking: *"that's not a good thing because I don't get it and it makes me uncomfortable"*
People who think like this are absolutely miserable, it's awful to see this mindset spread so far.
I think every cis person should just accept that they don't need to understand it to support it, because either way people are going to be better for it.
Jesse's confidence and carefree nature is what I aspire to be
I'm a straight, white dude and I watched this whole thing for 2 reasons. #1- I'm a fan of you all. Thanks for plenty of entertainment over the years and I hope to see many more. #2- While I've never had any problem with any LGBTQIA+ people I only know a few gay people and no trans people personally so I was genuinely curious to hear your stories and learn more. I'm happy that you're happy. Happy Pride Month everybody.
I’m in the exact same boat. That’s why I’m glad vids like this are being made.
Same here. Good watch.
Agreed. Straight white dudes get a bad rap since the bad ones are the most vocal. The silent majority are actually pretty chill.
Thx for being cool
You're awesome! Thank you for being open to learning.
As a straight guy myself, and without any LGBT people in my personal life, I know very little about this stuff and the only lens I can usually see it through is _online discussions,_ which tend to be... well, unhelpful at best, and belligerent in both directions at worst. It's so great to hear people talking openly and civilly about these subjects and just being people about it. This was both informative and refreshing to listen to.
Keep on bein' awesome, TFS.
Friend, I'd be willing to bet you do have LGBT people in your life and they either don't know or haven't told anyone/you yet.
@@brookejon3695 Yeah, that could very well be. I guess I should say none that I'm aware of or have spoken about it.
Respect man, same here. I don’t like certain gay people that make it their personality, but the ones I like are the ones who actually have something to say about their decisions 👍
@@brookejon3695 I mean... statistically it's not that odd. Maybe acquaintances since that is a larger pool, but LGBT is still cumulatively around 6-8%. There is only around a 60% chance that a group of 12-14 people have a single LGBT individual.
@@D_C763 this was not an excuse to make your homophobia known
Hey, I just recently accepted that I'm trans and I'm struggling to come out to my family and start transitioning. A mostly positive honest talk about being queer and how things get better when you become yourself is just what I needed now.
Really, thank you a lot for this.
Hope it goes well and that your transition is smooth. I recently went through the same thing and while it's definitely scary, making sure you love yourself and feel comfortable as who you really are should take top priority. Take care of yourself!
good luck dude
you're gonna do great!
Coming out to family will always be a struggle. My parents are very accepting people and are very non judgmental but it took me a long time to tell them I’m pan. Take the time you need but live your life as your true self homie!
Mind if I ask you a question about your personal situation and how you came to your decision to transition?
I've got nothing against it, I just don't understand and would like to try.
Imo people should be free to do whatever they want to seek happiness, with the only limit on that freedom being whether or not excercising it limits the freedom of others to do the same. Just so you know where I'm coming from.
35:36 That's fucking impressive that you lost so much weight Kaiser. How the hell did you get from 340 down to what you are now? Was it push-ups, sit-ups and plenty of juice?
It's always diet and exercise
It’s always diet and exercise (2)
The ‘ diet’ being a focus on actual NUTRITION. WHAT WE NEED/DON’T NEED. Avoiding garbage like added sugars, and filling yourself with protein, greens, grains. Etc.
That’s the way.
Took out the muffin button 😅
@@ViltrumiteIsRite99it's much more difficult than just eating right there are many different factors a big issue here where I live is typically the food that's bad for you is more reasonably priced than the healthier alternatives
@@CalKirst-zz4wv Sure, it’s only part of the equation when we’re talking about lifestyle, but it’s still the bottom line.
Those microwaveables might be affordable here and there, but they’ll be the same reason you’re inflamed and bloated there and here.
40:25 as a very tall (and apparently somewhat intimidating?!?) Trans woman, I correct like, 60 people a day, with just a simple “hey I’m not a sir” or “Can you please not call me a male” in a calm tone, even when someone looks up my dead name to dead name me, I still just say “ Please don’t do that”, We aren’t animals, we’re people, please treat us as such
Wait a second...SCOTT'S GAY?! Does his husband know?
This is a joke for those that can't read sarcasm
@@sofianesk3050 bro what 💀
@@Wizofmincraft I think it’s called sarcasm
I hope his husband knows and supports him
From what I heard, his husband didn't know at first. He found out the day Kaiser proposed. It lead to a huge fight and they almost broke up, but the day before the wedding, they made up and now Kaiser's husband supports him for who he is. Considering they dated for 10 years before marrying, I'm glad they had a happy ending. Buy hey, I just heard this from the grapevine. Don't quote me on this.
Yea I think Lani knows
Actually the most wholesome conversion I've seen on this channel, no cap. Love you all, happy pride month.
Hey now, Cap is very wholesome. The most wholesome Avenger imo
Conversation, I'm not normally a person who cares about typos but I think we should keep the word conversion as far away from pride month as possible 😭
i once read a story about a gay kid in the mid 1900s who would call gay bars from across the country just to listen to other gays being social because his home life was so rough. Now, my situation isnt nearly as bad, but as a trans bisexual in a long distance relationship, you guys became my gay bar for the last hour. It's making me nearly cry how special it's been to just finally hear people close to my age talk in a way i understand for once
Not related to the topic at hand but on the side topic of the influence you have as public figures, Scott you helped me really get healthy over all. It was a random conversation you had with Ben in one of the No More Heroes videos but you talking about your journey to improve yourself both physically and mentally, about how you can't just ignore your short comings on the grounds of well everyone should like you for who you are that for some reason struck a cord with me. It spurred me to drop about 80lbs over the course of about 2 years and it drastically improved my health and gave me more confidence in my ability to accomplish things. Thank you!
grats on being healthy!
As someone who figured out they were a transgender woman, Jesse was/is a great inspiration and I've appreciated his presence on the team and how you've interacted with him.
I just found out a friend of mine is gay (not like they came out, but like I just legitimately did not know) and he was in shocked and told our other co-workers that I didn't know.
I told him they come in all colors and sizes so I just genuinely don't care just so long as you're happy.
He was surprised but at the same time not that surprised, so I summed it up to a classic joke:
Me: Anybody could be gay nowadays.
That police officer, some of your friends, the cashier, that guy sucking your dick.
Person: But he said No Homo...
Me: He lied
And we both had a good laugh
That is just an amazing joke😂
if you do not know someone is gay, then he is actually just born gay and lives with it completely respectable.
lgbtq is dirt however.
What a wonderful video, as much as I love the comedy of TFS it's always wonderful to see and hear something genuine. Happy Pride everyone.
I'm here I'm Queer and I... Would actually just like to take an honest second and say that all the "poor taste" jokes made by TFS over the years have not only helped me come to terms with who i am, but have also just always been funny to me. I have never once NOT laughed at Freaky Alien Genotype, and other queers at my high school actually adopted that phrase as a codeword.
TFS really has helped me in my journey to trans my gender. I appreciate you guys. It has been an AMAZING 15 years and i look forward to even more.
then let me ask you, who are you? you are talking about it i would like to know i cannot udnerstand this topic without asking.
I have been going through my own stuff and it feels like the first pride month where I have been openly pan to myself and most people in my life. So this video came out at the right time for me. Thank you TFS for being a great source of entertainment and helping me deal with life. God bless you all.
I had no idea this Jesse was actually Nowacking. I stopped watching him a long time ago because I lost interest in the community I knew him from, and that was just about when he first came out to his audience. He really has come a long way since I last watched his content, and I can’t help but feel kinda proud for him… which, considering what month we’re in, that’s very appropriate.
And yes, I am referring to his time as the definitive voice of Vinyl Scratch, to the point that the character couldn’t even have a voice in the show itself because his voice as her was too iconic.
Love you guys, thanks for creating a safe space, we need more people like you in the world.
“Respect my trans friends or I will identify as a fucking problem.” That needs a shirt.
Imagine this in Lani's vioce, I would fucking love it.
Sounds authoritarian
@@jackhamilton9604no u
@@elizabethmcwhorter3445 nah be liking "like trans people or else!" is an authoritatian thing
I'm so proud to both be part and supportive of this cause becasue wonderful people like you are here.
"Respect my Trans homies, or I will identify as a F@#$ING PROBLEM!"
I love that quote, and I shall now proceed to use that every chance I get.
That line went hard 😂 and needs to be on shirts and bumper stickers. I'm gonna remember that one for later because, unfortunately, there will be a "later"
Sounds authoritarian
@@jackhamilton9604That's neat
As a trans person, I find the transmission joke extremely funny. But lowkey I appreciate that Kaiser is the sort of person who regrets it and wants to make it better.
I'm in the same boat with you, I thought it was funny, definitely pushing the envelope. It's one of those jokes where is a queer person find it funny and appreciates it in a different way than probably a cis-het person would.
It falls into the same category of humor as the first use of freaky alien genotype, in my opinion. You can make it homophobic if you're a bad person, but really it's just wordplay.
Honestly I can't stand it. Kaiser is perpetuating a culture of posturing and self hatred that's not helping the left's cause as much as they think. The "grown up empath," is a cult of narcissism poisoning the world with their false enlightenment.
Man the fuck up Kaiser. You did nothing wrong.
It helps that nobody in the scene was disrespectful. 18 wasn't even talking about Trans People, she was just abbreviating transmission!
The transmission joke is fucking hilarious
Same
I love this. Great pod guys! Keep being yourselves and keep the content flowing!! Your fans love and appreciate you for who you are.
Thank you for doing this talk, it means alot to me to hear all of you discuss this and hear such care and positivity.
"idk whoever's cute" 😂
You guys fucking rule ❤️🏳️⚧️🏳️🌈
I love you all! Keep kicking ass and being an amazing team and fantastic people!!
Just finished and my goodness please do more videos like this. Just sitting down and shooting the shit is amazing and i love this video so much.
This video was amazing. As a fan of TeamFourStar and the content that you all have put out over the years, this was just fantastic. I'm glad that I was able to learn more about you all and have a better understanding of who you all are as individuals.
Didn't expect this. But I love it. Happy Pride Y'all
Honestly, I just wanted to watch more DBZA commentary, but I'm glad I watched this. It helps to know you're not alone
I watched this hour long video so I could try to gain more perspective on my friends lives and I think your stories helped so thank you.
Thank you for putting this talk up. Dont have a huge friend group and love getting the perspective.
No matter your preferences can we all just be happy to see Quinn on camera
As a lesbian i can confirm i am happy to see Quinn on camera
I and the heterosexual delegation concur with the delegate from the proud lesbian coalition
The bisexual delegation also concurs, we also humbly request more lemon bars.
The heterosexual delegation acknowledges your request, but must insist you take your lemon bar supplication to the Alliance of Aces, as they control the citrus dividends.
@@Wolfbane192as a representative of the pan delegation, i regret to inform you that the shortage of lemon bars is absolutely on us because keeping up with the snack requests from so many other delegations has left the kitchen completely swamped. we will get them out to you as soon as we can
I love pride,
Pat
Robertson
Is
Dead
Everybody
(EDIT) Also happy pride to all my gay brothers and sisters and siblings of a nonbinary gender identity.
Pat Robertson dying is the closest thing America will get to feeling the sheer joy of Margaret Thatcher dying for people in the UK.
McConnell should be following soon, we got a few bets still coming in on the race.
@@GreaterSeraph Not true- Reagan's dead, and someday soon Kissinger will be too (we hope- that old bastard seems terrifyingly long lived)
Honestly this was so lovely to watch...my most favorite part about the abridged commentary is honestly you guys reflecting on some of your older jokes and how you could have phrased it better to not punch down anyone
My second most favorite thing is every time I hear Scott talk about his husband...it's just so darn cute ❤
I throughly enjoyed this thanks for uploading this chat, I appreciate y’all so much keep being awesome
Much love and happy pride month ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
In a 10 day period...
Kaiser: *makes hour long video celebrating pride*
Lani: *makes 9 minute video eating hot sauce*
I love this channel!
Its like a gacha game, who knows whats gonna happen once you press play!
Hearing Scott talk about him learning about trans people made me happy. I recently accepted myself as trans/enby, and I found that thinking of it like that helped me when I started to really explore it.
Being referred to in a feminine way makes me really fucking happy. I still like my male attributes, but leaning more into the fem puts a big fucking smile on my face.
I hope that by this time next year I'm exploring it in physical space as well, not just through Vtubing.
Happy Pride, everyone. I'm not really supposed to talk about details but... Thank you for giving visibility to trans men.
ETA: Remember that time when the shirt came off and kaiser was uwu
TFS, kicking trans women off the team because the sign says "no girls allowed". :P
j/k, love y'all and you guys rock.
-signed, a longtime fan who just recently realized she's a trans gal
I'm glad I decided to watch this video. I'm one of those people who said a lot of bigoted things as a teenager to get a rise out of people, as much as I hate to admit it. Seeing acceptance and understanding relating to growing out of that phase like I've tried to makes me feel a lot better as strange as that may sound, and it makes me feel more welcome as an ally.
As someone who is trans, I know that feel.
I grew up in dirt-ass West Texas where slurs were considered peak comedy. I said some truly stupid shit from the ages of 16-23, and I die a little more inside every time I remember.
May I ask why you said stuff like that to get a rise out of people? And not as a confrontational question, I'm genuinely curious about the psychology behind it when you were a teen.
prideflag is bullsht.
talking about gay is bullsht.
that every gay person is born gay is bullshit.
those are facts most are mentally depraced and deeply hurt souls nothing else but these things make us up and you just have to deal with it and be you.
having this gendertalk however, a prideflag, a pridemonth, stuff that are gay stuff that are straight evereything is absolute bullsht.
you eitehr are or are not, do you know why you often cnat tell if someone is legitimate gay? because no one talks about being straight either thats your private if it becomes a topic you can just tell how it is.
its allways all done the wrong way around always ppl shortcircuiting and being absolute morons about everything.
if someoene has a phobia against a certain kidn of people theyr idiots.
if someone is pridful of existing they are idiots.
theyr all equally IDIOTS i dont care just shut the fk up its not even worth being a topic just get teh guys who do crime of low motifs behind bars, if tehy hurt someoen hurt them double nothing complicated about it just all shut the hell up and be fking normal for once.
Theres been some scary regression in how society feels about these topics in the last few years, so I appreciate you posting this even if I'm cis and straight.
I definitely agree with Kaiser and the comments here. It doesn't matter whether or not I understand any of it. If it makes them happy, that's all I need to know to support them.
Love you guys!
Vegeta: What is this? I was told this was about pride. Why are there rainbows. There's nothing Saiyan about a rainbow. Unless... Yes, I see it now. I shall achieve Super Saiyan Rainbow.
Quinn through this is a total mood. I am glad they were there.
I’m straight but I’m here for the conversation 👍
Ditto.
@@tencents6 ?
@@D_C763 I'm a cis guy who's into women only, but I just like hearing these guys talk, especially about this. After seeing people in the LGBT community be toxic on Twitter lately, this is a good reminder that NOT EVERYONE in the LGBT Community wants to argue, just to argue.
@@tencents6 👍
this is why I love you guys so much. You are some of the few content creators that still work from the bases of common sense
this was really unexpected but a really nice surprise :) thanks for sharing your experiences
This was enjoyable and enlightening, thanks for doing this!
This hour-long video felt like it was over in no time at all! Magical editing process must be the cause. Happy Pride, friends.
As someone who grew up thinking edgy = funny, and not really understanding a lot about the jokes I was making/laughing at, I take so much pride now in being a part of a friend group (in my early 20s) that has people in my age range and a bit younger(16-20) that I can properly discuss and inform them on topics of this matter. I feel as though discussing things like this and telling them of the experiences of people who feel differently to what they understand helps them mature and be so much kinder and I think videos like this do such good work at helping people who may be confused on things like this to understand and be more considerate.
Tl;dr I love this video and videos of this format/topic discussion. Hatred is usually a result of ignorance. Happy Pride Month everyone :)
Only 24 minutes in but I appreciate you guys and what you have done and continue to do. : 3
Jesse saying he attempted 2 times before transition hit me hard. I had attempted a few times as well before transitioning and all i knew about trans stuff is what conservatives were screaming about. I'm so glad i looked into it on my own and even though i deal with a lot more harassment online now than i did before I'm happier than i have ever been.
To expand a little bit on what Scott said about it being okay to detransition, it's also totally fine to come out as trans, but at a later date explore your gender even more. It's not always just full binary transition or detransition, there's people who find their gender identities somewhere outside of the the binary after coming out as trans.
Tldr: it's okay to explore your identity more than once, and you don't have to stick to either being cis or trans
i have come out as trans but also still consider myself genderfluid, it's just that i'd like to transition to the other side of the scale of that fluidity since that side is more prevalent and presenting femme while the base is male is harder than presenting masc while the base is female, since even when i want to present masc it's still near a sort of femboy way anyway. So yeah, totally valid to continue gender exploration even after coming out as trans and transitioning
As someone who's never been around very many folks who were gay, trans, etc, I feel like you 3 are the most genuine folks I've gotten to know of. As always, hope you're all doing well and know that I appreciate all you've done throughout the years 💖💖💖
Great video! Happy pride month. I love these discussions on the channel!
13:45 I vibe with "Training Wheels Trans". I'm not gay or trans, so I cannot directly relate to either experiences.
However, I am both Asexual and Autistic. And there are a lot of questions and assumptions that come with both.
Being an Asexual male with a lot of sexual guy friends, I often have to be the teacher that explains the whole Aro-Ace space for them.
I'm genderfluid and I very much appreciate you guys and your dedication to being cool as fuck about LGBTQ issues.
It's so incredibly hard being queer right now, and as someone who still hasn't been able to come out to a majority of people it's nice to see people be so open and comfortable about being who they are.
Love you guys (no homo).
Also gonna use this as a platform to say can we please get the pride shirts with more flags? Idk the logistics of making that work but I'd def buy a genderfluid one (or even a NB one because genderfluid kinda falls under that)
🤝🤝!!! i'm genderfluid too actually!!!!!! so cool to see someone else like me here lol- and YEAH i was thinking the same thing about pride shirts, i'd buy a genderfluid or intersexual pride print SO quick lmao
@@callie-flower3177 It always makes me so happy meeting other genderfluid people! I feel like I'm a single person floating in a big ocean sometimes but seeing other people be open about it helps me bring myself back to reality.
Yay genderfluid gang :D i have the luck to live in a very progressive country, but yeah it hurts to see how some other parts of the world are doing at the moment, all the best to you in your journey coming out and hope you will find the support you need :D
I know this has probably been said several times in these comments already, but I don't think it can be said enough. Thank you so much for doing this. It's always great to see support for the community especially from people who have had as large an impact on internet culture as TFS. I would love to see more stuff like this during future pride months/special occasions.
Great video I lvoe seeing you guys even just talk. I love all your content.
I came out as Bi 8 years ago and honestly never felt welcome in the community, I despite my sexuality still have very traditional values and never felt the need to change how I acted how I talked or how I presented myself. I am still being told "Your not Bi", "You don't get a say in this community." or "You don't act queer enough to be LGBTQ+." and honestly it hurts when I see my boyfriend enjoying pride with all his friends but when it he is not in the room I get the dirtiest looks they can give me and I can't say a thing because I know it would ruin his relationship with his friends if I did, I have resigned myself to dealing just doing nothing about it I value his happiness because his happiness brings me more joy then his friends can bring me pain
Biphobia fucking sucks. Stay strong. ❤️
all of the hugs
Kay but it kinda sounds like he has toxic friends. It can't be good for him, being unaware of their hidden prejudices. And yeah, maybe knowing the truth would affect his relationship with them, but maybe it should.
@@GreaterSeraphI’m sorry that you’ve dealt with such bs and accusations that you’re a phony. It’s ridiculous that others rely on stereotypes to “read” if someone is queer or not (I’m pan myself and people have always assumed I’m weird anyway and I’ve found practically a lot of people of any gender interested and even attractive since I was young. Being brought up in a sheltered yet traumatic life, I was always under the assumption that gay was weird and abnormal and just something to laugh at and not take seriously. But the more I learned and how uncomfortable I’ve gotten when anyone I dont know gets too close and I dont know how to respond besides just run or shut down and the more hurt I see when those of the queer community are being attacked just by existing, i felt like shit. When I got to college I just stuck with theatre because it was the closest thing I felt to genuine happiness and wanted to try any role I can get my hands on. More people tried to get too close and even pushed my buttons to get a rise out of me. I reacted badly and wanted to run or go with the flow. The results were hit and miss. It wasn’t till I was more comfortable with trying new things and finding the beauty in a lot of what I originally thought was absurd, the more I comfortable I was being in just being genuinely happy and seeing a lot of the humor in how stupid the ignorance is.
Jesse coming out as trans was one of the inspiring points in my life (as well as when I dated a couple of non-binary folks that I had feelings for and enjoyed being with) that I started out as uncomfortably straight to comfortably straight and now to pansexual. Anyone that can’t deal with that are free to leave me alone.
As for your partner, you’re so awesome for putting their feelings and happiness first but they want to make sure you’re happy too. Their friends have no right to judge you or accuse you of not being bi simply because you don’t fit their mold.
If they disrespect you, it’s also disrespecting your partner who they claim to be their friend. Your feelings matter too and always will.
Love seeing an honest chat about being queer and supporting pride. From a long-time fan, I've always supported the team and their identities. 🏳🌈
Literally stopped and reread the name "nowacking" 10 times. Genuinely thought I was mixing people up. I haven't seen that name since mid MLP era and wow. I'm so happy for you and glad to see things are going great.
I love the chemistry everyone has at TFS n such
This was a wonderful conversation that made me smile an- Wait... Do I own the TFS PRIDE shirt?.... I DON'T!!
Welp, gotta fix that!
I'm always thrilled to see anybody find a way to stop *enduring* and start LIVING!
It doesn't even matter whether you "understand" somebody's identity or not, you just have to treat them as a fellow human being.
I was going to write this when you got to the Broly movie commentary, but this seems like a better video to write it under. Team Four Star helped give me the courage to come out to my friends. So back in 2012/13 I watched one of your videos (I can't remember specifics, it was a while ago) where Scott mentioned he was gay, and it wasn't just the fact that Scott was and is openly gay, it's that you felt comfortable with that aspect of yourself in front of your friends, and that for everyone else it was a complete non-issue. And that basically cemented for me that if my friends are good friends and good people thay're going to be supportive of me. So thank you
I gotta say, I absolutely love their energy together.
I'm just starting this and Jesse's "trans women are real women wHICH IS WHY" I'M LEGIT WHEEZING
Personally loved Jesse before, and continue to love after. He is just the kind of chaotic energy we all suppress inside and are often too scared to let show.
this video gave me a lot of joy. happy pride month!
I love the teams work and a few of you have even inspired me to try and better myself.... I have a long way to go because 25+ years of dysphoria, clinical depression, adhd, bad habits from neglectful and narcissistic parents and etc does not good social skills or hygiene make.
However, as of last year, I came out as trans to online friends and have been working on improving said issues. I have a basic hygiene routine going on with some really nice soaps, I have clothing I feel happy in when I wear them around my place (though I'm not comfy going out in public) I've been seeking the care I need to reverse some of the "damage" from said bad habits, I got into content creation and have my own little social circle full of good beans that do their best to support me.
It's been a rough journey and I have a long way to go, especially due to a lack of local support, but seeing you three openly talk about Pride, being trans, etc just reminds me of how far I've come and, how much happier I am when I can be myself.