Great episode again. Still question how much the game would progress when there is even a touch of investment and care around players in the state system.
i think the current England team has a 55/45 private to state school player origin. so it is alot more even than it was before. I would love to see more State school players. working class heroes.
@@NSYresearchwon’t happen, it’s already controlled by private schools, it’s the same in Ireland and then when public school players are good they get scouted into pro teams and then can’t compete in school games. Happened to me in Dublin. Cause you can’t play cup games for Leinster then play for schools team which is a joke. (U20)
@@cabraonropes5622 OK.. kind of odd that we have a few lads who were at pro academies who played for school... a couple of them in this series . But I get your frustration.
Our grammar school played Millfield at U14 and drew, we beat Bryanston at U14 and U16. We couldn't touch either at U19. Bryanston did offer our scrumhalf a scholarship for the sixth form! Money talks, and wins.
I’m quite surprised they rescinded the red card. Would’ve been a good lesson to all the boys. Maybe it was a silly rule to have a red card carry through the rest of the competition. Now nothing has been achieved. Better to give him a one match ban, and then review the footage and give the tip-tackler a red as well. They’re school boys - they should learn the lesson that retaliation is not acceptable.
Even though I commented above about it being sour grapes that the card was reminded because it was Millfield. I agree the player should have had a ban, one match would be good. And knowing the lad involved he would have been very understanding of the punishment.
It wasn't rescinded until that night so could have missed the last game of the group stages. I suspect they also used the team footage we saw to show he didn't throw a punch, but rather lots of pushing following the tip tackle. If no punch is seen then the game ban was sufficient and the right call.
Yea, yawn. Rugby needs to use it's platforms to push awareness away from elitism.. Obviously a £10k a year school has a good sports program.. The state school that is over performing on the pitch would be a much better story..
@@Makethemostofit1I went to a state school and in youth and younger rugby we would compete with the private schools, and I remember once playing blackrock and they played their second XV to end up loosing like 20-0 half time and bringing first team players in to play the second 😂 of which they still lost like 32-10 and then after getting to older years the difference between public and private shows. In a public school we would train but not every-time would the full team show up plus we all played club rugby some even for Leinster so I got banned and a few others from playing in schools rugby which is a joke.
Mallard is dull af. One thing this team lacks is real characters that you would see in a state school, not many of this bunch stand out (aside from the dancer guy).
I don’t think you’ll gain an accurate perception of these boys characters from this documentary. The fact that they don’t go to a state school also doesn’t make them dull.
Very surprised Millfield took part in this, school comes across with a lack of humility and is tone deaf to it's privilege at a time when independent schools are under such scrutiny. Reinforces many negative stereotypes of rugby, independent schools and Millfield itself.
Seems like to me rugby is rich man’s sport in the uk and perhaps that’s why they will struggle to compete with South Africa and New Zealand ….where it’s played in pvt schools and government schools with the latter producing overwhelmingly in the country’s pool talent( in South Africa’s case ) It being confined to pvt schools you are ultimately not tapping a huge pool of players who predominantly in government schools….it makes no sense ….spread the game and you will produce abundantly
You can criticize the public school system but these are intelligent respectful boys and treated like young adults from the impressive teaching staff - Ive been on supply in many state schools and how many PE teachers would be able to compete at these levels, teachers who go home at 3 and deal with many shitty kids playing dodgeball and other stupid adaptive games and they think it is progressive. The kids are not taught any discipine or team work and dont have it anyway and have a mouthy footballers attitude but dont even play football games - The more you see this the more you realize there is a massive difference between state and private schools. I wish the state schools were run like private schools but many of the kids just wouldnt do it or buy into it - there isnt the culture
You know what I don’t understand is that you are essentially giving more and more attention to these high fees private schools who are already very well known instead of looking at maybe a public school which would be a better story
Yea agreed. Kind of in poor taste. Rugby needs to use it's platforms to build awareness away from elitism.. Obviously a £10k a year school has a good sports program..
Sounds like sour grapes... a good number of these lads are from backgrounds where parents make unbelievable sacrifices to give their kids a good education. True, state schools do need investment, this should come from the Rugby Unions of each country.
THIS IS A GREAT SERIES ALREADY
Great episode again. Still question how much the game would progress when there is even a touch of investment and care around players in the state system.
i think the current England team has a 55/45 private to state school player origin. so it is alot more even than it was before. I would love to see more State school players. working class heroes.
@@patrickthomas8101 Yes 55% from private schools. Do you know how many of the general population attend private schools? 7%
@@AdviceAcademy__ So campaign for more funds for state schools. Get the rugby unions to put more money into it cos I doubt the government will .
@@NSYresearchwon’t happen, it’s already controlled by private schools, it’s the same in Ireland and then when public school players are good they get scouted into pro teams and then can’t compete in school games. Happened to me in Dublin. Cause you can’t play cup games for Leinster then play for schools team which is a joke. (U20)
@@cabraonropes5622 OK.. kind of odd that we have a few lads who were at pro academies who played for school... a couple of them in this series . But I get your frustration.
Our grammar school played Millfield at U14 and drew, we beat Bryanston at U14 and U16. We couldn't touch either at U19. Bryanston did offer our scrumhalf a scholarship for the sixth form! Money talks, and wins.
Strongest rugby school, surely that is Oakham school, they are reigning Uk school U18 champions after beating Trinity at Twickernam
Brilliant mini-series this!
I’m quite surprised they rescinded the red card. Would’ve been a good lesson to all the boys. Maybe it was a silly rule to have a red card carry through the rest of the competition. Now nothing has been achieved. Better to give him a one match ban, and then review the footage and give the tip-tackler a red as well. They’re school boys - they should learn the lesson that retaliation is not acceptable.
Even though I commented above about it being sour grapes that the card was reminded because it was Millfield. I agree the player should have had a ban, one match would be good. And knowing the lad involved he would have been very understanding of the punishment.
It wasn't rescinded until that night so could have missed the last game of the group stages. I suspect they also used the team footage we saw to show he didn't throw a punch, but rather lots of pushing following the tip tackle. If no punch is seen then the game ban was sufficient and the right call.
great series on a great school
Enjoying every minute
Yea, yawn. Rugby needs to use it's platforms to push awareness away from elitism.. Obviously a £10k a year school has a good sports program.. The state school that is over performing on the pitch would be a much better story..
10k a term bro.
@@Makethemostofit1I went to a state school and in youth and younger rugby we would compete with the private schools, and I remember once playing blackrock and they played their second XV to end up loosing like 20-0 half time and bringing first team players in to play the second 😂 of which they still lost like 32-10 and then after getting to older years the difference between public and private shows. In a public school we would train but not every-time would the full team show up plus we all played club rugby some even for Leinster so I got banned and a few others from playing in schools rugby which is a joke.
Prep schools in the US are 60k a year!
How can a punch in the face be overturned? 😂😂 Joke
I know right, any other school and not a chance. Load of bollocks
has to be something dodgy going on behind the scenes 🤣
@@sami421 😂😂
Love the series
Bromsgrove school?
Mallard is dull af. One thing this team lacks is real characters that you would see in a state school, not many of this bunch stand out (aside from the dancer guy).
I don’t think you’ll gain an accurate perception of these boys characters from this documentary. The fact that they don’t go to a state school also doesn’t make them dull.
@@poop50k I only said Mallard is dull tbf. The rest lack a bit of "urban edge" imo.
@@jr1734 you seem to have a bit of a thing against Millfield... what's up.. did they beat your team?
@@jr1734 why does anyone need an ‘urban edge’ ?
@@thecuttingsark5094 Think of Genge and what he brings and then imagine a state school with several Genge's. Would be good value for a tv production.
Uk best school got demolished in the world schools competition 😂
Wish my secondary had rugby
If any other school appealed to that red card it just wouldn’t get over turned. Rigged. 😭
Sour grapes again... what makes you think Millfield have any more influence than say Sedburgh.... ?
Very surprised Millfield took part in this, school comes across with a lack of humility and is tone deaf to it's privilege at a time when independent schools are under such scrutiny. Reinforces many negative stereotypes of rugby, independent schools and Millfield itself.
THATS MY BOY GEORGEEEEE
Seems like to me rugby is rich man’s sport in the uk and perhaps that’s why they will struggle to compete with South Africa and New Zealand ….where it’s played in pvt schools and government schools with the latter producing overwhelmingly in the country’s pool talent( in South Africa’s case )
It being confined to pvt schools you are ultimately not tapping a huge pool of players who predominantly in government schools….it makes no sense ….spread the game and you will produce abundantly
You can criticize the public school system but these are intelligent respectful boys and treated like young adults from the impressive teaching staff - Ive been on supply in many state schools and how many PE teachers would be able to compete at these levels, teachers who go home at 3 and deal with many shitty kids playing dodgeball and other stupid adaptive games and they think it is progressive. The kids are not taught any discipine or team work and dont have it anyway and have a mouthy footballers attitude but dont even play football games - The more you see this the more you realize there is a massive difference between state and private schools. I wish the state schools were run like private schools but many of the kids just wouldnt do it or buy into it - there isnt the culture
You know what I don’t understand is that you are essentially giving more and more attention to these high fees private schools who are already very well known instead of looking at maybe a public school which would be a better story
100% red card, silly boys embarrassing for the school . The tackle was borderline…
more please and than k you
What cost of living crisis?
Yea agreed. Kind of in poor taste. Rugby needs to use it's platforms to build awareness away from elitism.. Obviously a £10k a year school has a good sports program..
@@oldershikari828 mines 13k a term so theres probably like 15k per term
Sounds like sour grapes... a good number of these lads are from backgrounds where parents make unbelievable sacrifices to give their kids a good education. True, state schools do need investment, this should come from the Rugby Unions of each country.
@@NSYresearch Behave. Wealth is a choice, as is having children..
first as usual