Hollow Knight's Dream Warrior Lore Explained

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  • Опубліковано 30 чер 2024
  • Today we are going to take a deep dive into the Dream Warriors found scattered throughout Hallownest. They might not make a big impact on the overall lore of Hollow Knight, but there are still a few trinkets of lore and game development insight we can gleam from these spooky specters.
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    Video Chapters:
    0:00 Spoiler Warning
    0:10 Introduction
    1:53 Xero
    3:05 Elder Hu
    5:07 Galien
    6:21 Marmu
    8:07 Markoth
    10:15 Gorb
    13:12 No Eyes
    17:07 Outro and Discord Plug
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  • @mossbag69
    @mossbag69  2 роки тому +969

    Hello everyone! The original backer who created No Eyes recently made a Reddit post explaining her original backstory. It's a little different from what was shown here, so check out the link if you're interested! www.reddit.com/r/HollowKnight/comments/pawsyv/no_eyess_original_story/?context=3

    • @SeventhSolar
      @SeventhSolar 2 роки тому +18

      Wow, after UA-cam pestered me to watch this video for 3 months, I click just in time to see this.

    • @ma1exu965
      @ma1exu965 2 роки тому +3

      ok

    • @theskymann6172
      @theskymann6172 2 роки тому +14

      I appreciate you for updating the video after a year

    • @marekjakoubek8972
      @marekjakoubek8972 Рік тому +8

      Wanted to add that the "They are coming what's inside of you, strip it out" might be referencing the dreams coming and she wanting to become hollow as the Vessels were. Strip out what's inside of you... Eyes could possibly be a way of doing so, because without eyes, you achieve ultimate black.

    • @ryanwright4930
      @ryanwright4930 Рік тому +1

      The song sounds like silent knight holy knight

  • @delsinconklin2324
    @delsinconklin2324 3 роки тому +6142

    "the white lady wouldnt know anything about flying, shes a rooted plant"
    meanwhile, Mr mushroom just rockets away like its natural

    • @lindylou538
      @lindylou538 3 роки тому +290

      Its
      HSP
      hollow space programme

    • @marcoasturias8520
      @marcoasturias8520 3 роки тому +170

      He is a mushroom, not a plant

    • @rintan5231
      @rintan5231 3 роки тому +46

      @@marcoasturias8520 we know man

    • @DronesOverTheMoon
      @DronesOverTheMoon 3 роки тому +163

      The law of physics dont medle with mr musrhoom

    • @papervis
      @papervis 3 роки тому +162

      Mr mushroom is another form of higher being, he is a high being, he most likely hung out with Gorb, who was too high.

  • @archdruidbookwalter951
    @archdruidbookwalter951 3 роки тому +5171

    Marmu lore: "The Queen is gonna teach me to fly, yaaaay!!"
    No Eyes lore: *"My own children ripped my eyes out, so I ripped out theirs!"*

  • @wu3544
    @wu3544 3 роки тому +3841

    “The main character of hollow knight is really good at killing things”
    Not when I’m playing 😔

    • @ionicman2908
      @ionicman2908 3 роки тому +119

      1. Downstrike(jump and strike downwards on enemies.)
      2. Spells(dont be a pussy, use that soul to good use.)
      3. dodge with dash

    • @ongabobonga6543
      @ongabobonga6543 3 роки тому +93

      @@ionicman2908 dude now im a GOD thx

    • @ionicman2908
      @ionicman2908 3 роки тому +11

      @@ongabobonga6543 happy to help:)

    • @ionicman2908
      @ionicman2908 3 роки тому +27

      @@ongabobonga6543 also if you want to hop from enemies to enemies by downstriking like a friggin badass(or just want to speedrun), use the dash after downstriking an enemy. also downstriking a downstrikable object recharges your double jump( sorry for spoiling in case you didnt have it), so it can allow you to be an absolute madlad.

    • @iamacatperson7226
      @iamacatperson7226 3 роки тому +26

      @@ionicman2908 4: Get defeated by NKG
      5: Cry after attempting buzz saw hell

  • @9a_23_tyrantqiu7
    @9a_23_tyrantqiu7 3 роки тому +862

    No eyes : comes back to her children
    Her children : so i started eating

    • @Karin17S
      @Karin17S 3 роки тому +75

      Quarantine hit the kids hard after mom left for milk
      I mean you can’t blame them

    • @emppudud5692
      @emppudud5692 3 роки тому +7

      @@Karin17S LMAO

    • @lord_vats
      @lord_vats Місяць тому

      I don't know why he changed the story. You can read the original post yourself. No Eyes gouged her eyes out herself because she couldn't see her precious children attack her and she sang them a lullaby while they killed her. In the original boss fight, the lullaby is supposed to warn the player of the direction the children will be coming from, which mossbag got right.

  • @TheCeekon
    @TheCeekon 3 роки тому +4399

    "There really isn't anything special about Gorb"
    Bold words to say for somebody in Gorbing distance.

  • @plxlnnt
    @plxlnnt 3 роки тому +2910

    original gorb: hee hoo slug sword
    original no eyes: literally a creepypasta

    • @fidget0227
      @fidget0227 3 роки тому +367

      Original Markoth: Just kinda a dick.

    • @Cosmic_Cretin
      @Cosmic_Cretin 3 роки тому +315

      @@fidget0227 Final Markoth: still a dick.

    • @pamplemoo
      @pamplemoo 3 роки тому +162

      Marmu: I believe I can fly

    • @leggomyeggo5773
      @leggomyeggo5773 3 роки тому +139

      xero: this is your target 47, the pale king.

    • @mommymustmurder2056
      @mommymustmurder2056 3 роки тому +80

      Galien: I have a single cell dinging around in my noggin!

  • @cherkv
    @cherkv 3 роки тому +851

    I created galien, a few things, i was the only backer to specify my character used a weapon, all the others chose magic. Though they Changed the weapon style from a big cracked nail, to a scythe. I kinda dig it tbh. Another was i created a rather detailed background that was too long and ended being cut down. Originally his concept was basically in short, he went to slay all those affected by the curse and ended up overexerting and damaging his own body leading to his death. I gave them the go ahead to change the background to whatever they needed to fit better for thier game and lore. I drew a basic design and they mostly kept it that way, it was a awesome experience that i never thought id do.

    • @mossbag69
      @mossbag69  3 роки тому +217

      That's really interesting! Thanks for sharing! Do you happen to have that original drawing? I'd love to see it. My DMs are open on Twitter.

    • @cherkv
      @cherkv 3 роки тому +122

      @@mossbag69 was quite a few years back, might still have something. Ill look around.

    • @mossbag69
      @mossbag69  3 роки тому +126

      @@cherkv Thanks for taking the time to check! I appreciate it

    • @mossbag69
      @mossbag69  Рік тому +138

      Sorry to bother you over a whole year later, but I was wondering if you were ever able to find that original drawing of Galien? Maybe in an old email somewhere? I know the HK community would get a kick out of seeing it.

    • @MrCarrot2000
      @MrCarrot2000 Рік тому +23

      @@mossbag69 that is a long time

  • @centurosproductions8827
    @centurosproductions8827 3 роки тому +614

    "Hu died in the fungal wastes..."
    "Boy, if mossbag doesn't know who, then I guess it's a secret to everyone."

  • @elrond2036
    @elrond2036 3 роки тому +5321

    "Silksong is releasing in 2054."
    Optimists, they're all the same.

  • @kaelmic7476
    @kaelmic7476 3 роки тому +3109

    "I am gorb" -gorb
    Ah, an ascended mind indeed.

  • @hippotripo6145
    @hippotripo6145 3 роки тому +928

    Hollow Knight: Hallownest is haunted by light: No Eyes exists
    Hollow Knight Silksong: Pharloom is haunted by music: No Ears must therefore exist.
    I rest my case.

    • @An_Entire_Lime
      @An_Entire_Lime 3 роки тому +21

      but.. bugs dont have ears

    • @AshenDust_
      @AshenDust_ 3 роки тому +49

      @@An_Entire_Lime they have ear holes

    • @An_Entire_Lime
      @An_Entire_Lime 3 роки тому +14

      @@AshenDust_ yes but they have no ears, its different
      (also this just made me think about void and if IT has ears or any way of hearing its surroundings.. maybe ghost just doesnt hear anything wich while lore breaking, would be hillarious)

    • @AshenDust_
      @AshenDust_ 3 роки тому +61

      @@An_Entire_Lime when u can’t listen to the Hollow Knight ost :(

    • @An_Entire_Lime
      @An_Entire_Lime 3 роки тому +27

      @@AshenDust_ sad god and void moment

  • @Zagardal
    @Zagardal 3 роки тому +459

    "they're coming" - No Eyes says to her children, the infected are approaching and they'll rise as husks too if they don't gouge themselves.
    "what's inside you... strip it out" - Take out your eyes before it's too late, we'll die but at least we won't turn into light moth zombies.
    That's how I read that quote after the re-contextualization given by the original backer lore.

    • @pedroivog.s.6870
      @pedroivog.s.6870 2 роки тому +12

      Even more horrible thank the original :)

    • @atherisGAY
      @atherisGAY 2 роки тому +27

      Yeah, that's how I interpreted it too. Not being able to see the light mightve been a desperate attempt to not get infected.

    • @shadowstar8619
      @shadowstar8619 Рік тому

      @@atherisGAY After all, the Radiance wanted everyone possible to see her and know her and WORSHIP HER LIGHT and all that shit. No Eyes's last-ditch attempt to block her out made her basically leave them for dead because blind subjects would be useless to her.

  • @molamola9723
    @molamola9723 3 роки тому +9097

    The explanation for the ghosts in hollow knight is that they are what we will turn into as we wait for silksong

  • @mattunderwood9842
    @mattunderwood9842 3 роки тому +3391

    "I wonder how Gorb fought when he was alive"
    Gorb didn't need to fight. His enemies would witness the sheer power of his intelligence and die instantly.

  • @hitscandan9487
    @hitscandan9487 3 роки тому +145

    Moths are peacefull and don't use weapons.
    Markoth: Fights you with weapons.
    Thistlewind: Knows how to wield a weapon.
    Seer: Gives you a weapon.
    Radiance: Fights you with swords.

    • @coraliep-r4346
      @coraliep-r4346 10 місяців тому +12

      I would like to see one (1) moth with no relation to weapons

    • @1971taks
      @1971taks 9 місяців тому +6

      Unnamed moth is there

    • @Mikauo_Xblade
      @Mikauo_Xblade 8 місяців тому +19

      @@coraliep-r4346 well, it makes sense that the ones with weapons are those that remain. Being peaceful doesn't help a lot with surviving, especially in a world as dangerous as Hallownest.

    • @jstar3382
      @jstar3382 2 місяці тому

      Most moths. And the only living one is a pacifist outside of killing the Radiance

    • @andistansbury4366
      @andistansbury4366 Місяць тому

      ​@@Mikauo_XbladeBut Markoth and Thislewind are both dead?

  • @darkn04
    @darkn04 3 роки тому +154

    17:00 I always interpreted the “they” here as the dreams. In fact, in my mind I always thought No Eyes’ story was the easiest to decipher.
    Bugs that became infected have glowing orange eyes and had dreams of light. “They’re coming... What’s inside of you...” means that the dreams, or more accurately the Radiance, is beginning to glisten inside. So, “Strip it out!” would mean that fearing the infection, she tore out the eyes as she believed the glowing eyes had a connection to becoming infected. No Eyes tore out her and her children’s eyes because of fear of the infection, yet failed to protect them or herself.

  • @stormRed
    @stormRed 3 роки тому +2448

    "No Eyes' backstory was so dark we had to rewrite it!"
    *Proceeds to write something potentially way darker*

    • @Monsterconnoiseur
      @Monsterconnoiseur 3 роки тому +124

      Seriosly dont let a child see this video no eyes lore is horrifyng Jesus christ no eyes history is even more horrifyng than the vessel's history

    • @An_Entire_Lime
      @An_Entire_Lime 3 роки тому +280

      @@Monsterconnoiseur at least the King had the decency to yeet the children where no one else could see

    • @ledendron5590
      @ledendron5590 3 роки тому +63

      Darkest thing about her is still her arena

    • @WeaverOfStars
      @WeaverOfStars 3 роки тому +99

      You know I always wondered what No Eyes story was considering she is one of the most overtly creepy characters in the game.
      ....That backstory isn't quite what I expected but it certainly fits an ghost mother singing a really twisted sounding lullaby.

    • @pedroivog.s.6870
      @pedroivog.s.6870 2 роки тому +13

      Why does she has a sanctum in the first place?

  • @aerodynamic_girl
    @aerodynamic_girl 3 роки тому +1401

    always assumed the reason gorb was being gorb is linked to the howling cliffs, leaving hallownest. like he was this impossibly smart genius reduced to a hooting and hollering wretch once outside of the pale king's influence

    • @the24thcolossusjustchillin39
      @the24thcolossusjustchillin39 3 роки тому +231

      Asj that makes sense since he seems to be missing more than a few screws also the dialogue that refers to gorb as a mysterious life-form seems to imply that slugs rare and have special inborn abilities when you look at Unn.

    • @thatguyzorv6650
      @thatguyzorv6650 3 роки тому +67

      I thought he was just a dr. Weird slug. He dies from a coke overdose demonstrating his mountain of coke weapon 😔 rip

    • @msw8616
      @msw8616 3 роки тому +110

      “also ascend” can be refearing to the howling clifs because of the position in the map (sory for the english, is not my native lenguage)

    • @dandischinosvarietyhour1655
      @dandischinosvarietyhour1655 3 роки тому +20

      @@msw8616 Your English is great! Wonderful job :)

    • @msw8616
      @msw8616 3 роки тому +12

      Daniel Dischino thank you ^ - ^

  • @curseofbinding
    @curseofbinding 3 роки тому +232

    *Plot twist:* gorb is a godseeker and he calls Escaping the wrap things 'ascending' except he lost the godseeker mask and Found a new mask which drove him crazy

    • @NeonWasInUse
      @NeonWasInUse 3 роки тому +37

      I hate how that's almost plausible.

    • @alfalldoot6715
      @alfalldoot6715 3 роки тому +42

      Maybe Gorb somehow got disconnected from the hive mind and that is why he's a little weird

    • @leweegee-nious9541
      @leweegee-nious9541 3 роки тому +8

      How do you know The secrets of Gorb?

    • @neotheshadowwarrior4082
      @neotheshadowwarrior4082 3 роки тому +3

      That’s actually a good theory

    • @curseofbinding
      @curseofbinding 3 роки тому +5

      Oh, gorb, I didn't expect to see you here

  • @Crazyclayrw
    @Crazyclayrw 2 роки тому +81

    I think what happened with no eyes was that she returned to the sanctuary, to find her children all infected. In denial, she decided to get rid of the main symptoms; their glowing. orange. eyes.
    and they fought back.

  • @lordcactusguy9349
    @lordcactusguy9349 3 роки тому +1328

    My personal theory for No Eyes is that she somehow found out about the opposition between the void and the Radiance, and to try and make herself and her children immune to the infection, she ripped out their eyes and replaced them all with void. This theory is assisted by her sprite, which looks like void dripping from her eyes, and her line about a place where "light cannot haunt us" and "a place without dreams," since the Radiance is the exact opposite of that.

    • @bobthemouse6668
      @bobthemouse6668 3 роки тому +374

      And when you defeat her and she says "you were always protecting us" could potentially be her referring to the void present in the knight

    • @viriyo4958
      @viriyo4958 3 роки тому +216

      Yup, that's what I'm thinking too.
      You can't see Radiance's blinding light if you have no eyes.

    • @r3ll282
      @r3ll282 3 роки тому +45

      @CellarDoor when we hit enemies the so called blood that splatters out is white, that could be their soul or their blood

    • @harmanpatel8692
      @harmanpatel8692 3 роки тому +32

      @@viriyo4958 she probably had too much insight.

    • @ZenofireX
      @ZenofireX 3 роки тому +81

      @CellarDoor I dunno, whenever someone dies to the Void, their eyes bleed black like that

  • @Diddlyy
    @Diddlyy 3 роки тому +659

    It took me the intro to realise that gorb is literally shouting "GOOOOOOORRRRRBAH"
    how have i not realised this?? I have 112% and all achievements and i had no idea

  • @CntRational
    @CntRational 3 роки тому +95

    8:22 Actually, the Seer very obliquely talks about Xero if you talk to her after getting all Essence from the Whispering Root outside her room, but before fighting him.

  • @iAmDru12
    @iAmDru12 3 роки тому +164

    5:50 "Real life, actual ghost hunting"
    .... Riiiiiiight
    Real ghosts....

  • @mettatonneo1147
    @mettatonneo1147 3 роки тому +2368

    “Silksong is releasing in 2054”
    Don’t do that. Don’t give me hope.

    • @GygasDistruttore
      @GygasDistruttore 3 роки тому +141

      Beside, he is wrong.
      He had read the numbers in the opposite order: silksong is to be relased in the year 4502.

    • @sealessseadog2735
      @sealessseadog2735 3 роки тому +6

      Me Too, I Know It's Never Gonna Happen' :(

    • @vizthex
      @vizthex 3 роки тому +15

      ikr, it's gonna be in 2021. At worst, 2022.
      Edit: *oof.*

    • @jevilthedevil-clown7492
      @jevilthedevil-clown7492 3 роки тому +4

      @@vizthex I hope so

    • @eeelaina5588
      @eeelaina5588 3 роки тому +8

      @@vizthex don't lie its gonna be in the year 5402

  • @jvcmarc
    @jvcmarc 3 роки тому +1234

    "Gorb probably died from a coke overdose"
    that's perfect

    • @Golden12500
      @Golden12500 3 роки тому +54

      If Gorb was a substance the entire community would be on him 24/7

    • @jvcmarc
      @jvcmarc 3 роки тому +69

      @@Golden12500 I'm going to say "I'm high on gorb" whenever I'm playing HK

    • @nickspencerfishingrodd2383
      @nickspencerfishingrodd2383 2 роки тому +2

      @@jvcmarc lmao

    • @I_love_Twilight342
      @I_love_Twilight342 Рік тому

      Yep that sounds like gorb😂

  • @lucapinzon2769
    @lucapinzon2769 3 роки тому +74

    Straight up disrespect when you used vengeful spirit to kill nail smith at the beginning

  • @Baloo106
    @Baloo106 3 роки тому +79

    "They are coming, they are hungry" -No-Eyes talking about Timon & Pumbaa.

  • @brightlight5922
    @brightlight5922 3 роки тому +1191

    When the original Gorb drawing appeared on the screen it felt comically surreal

    • @overthinkit_
      @overthinkit_ 3 роки тому +26

      good comment 👍

    • @j-man3267
      @j-man3267 2 роки тому +23

      12:50

    • @Josuh
      @Josuh 7 місяців тому +10

      Biblically accurate Gorb changed my life

  • @spegee5332
    @spegee5332 3 роки тому +1427

    Not only is Elder Hu dead, he's dead wrong.

  • @bootlegpineapple6599
    @bootlegpineapple6599 2 роки тому +33

    I think Marmu could still become part of the moth tribe, as being a pile of sludge in a cocoon seems like a prime time for a ancient light god to contact you and give you a power point presentation on why you should serve her

  • @aalacer398
    @aalacer398 3 роки тому +56

    Well, I really think Gorb died when his head exploded due to his brain growing without a stop. I mean, just look at the monument, and think about the only normal thing he says; the pain.

  • @kittylotus
    @kittylotus 3 роки тому +951

    Video starts. mossbag: "Spoilers to *Star wars"*
    Me: yea, this will be a ride

    • @crumble2000
      @crumble2000 3 роки тому +12

      But is it for _Episode VII : the force awakens_ or _Episode VIII : the last jedi_ ?
      Edit: it's the latter

    • @BlazeTaleo
      @BlazeTaleo 3 роки тому +10

      Basile L'Eplattenier it’s for episode X: the last skywalker awakens

  • @statical9851
    @statical9851 3 роки тому +804

    I really like no eye's chamber. The architecture is all different from the rest of the game. Something I think is interesting about it is that it just doesn't have any lights. Even deepnest just has empty lights in it but in are there is just nothing.

    • @knightmere3365
      @knightmere3365 3 роки тому +5

      omg it is statical youre my hero im so proud of you and i respect you so much keep up the good work

    • @ilurv2eetpie
      @ilurv2eetpie 3 роки тому +86

      Don't need lights if you don't have eyes!

    • @grimmisascorchmain9486
      @grimmisascorchmain9486 3 роки тому +14

      Slightly off topic, but I was playing steel mode, and it turns out you don't have to defeat no eyes to get the mask shard

    • @vanjaarsic1616
      @vanjaarsic1616 3 роки тому +2

      I still don't understand what are her fountains doing in City of Tears.

    • @lorax1274
      @lorax1274 3 роки тому +13

      @@vanjaarsic1616 She was a famous night kinda... she protected the pilgrims or something

  • @nekopuppet
    @nekopuppet 3 роки тому +55

    marmu: child like noises
    no eyes: _demonic chanting_

  • @bradleywade4781
    @bradleywade4781 3 роки тому +420

    It hadn't crossed my mind until now but...
    The quote "Can't dream... if you're still breathing" from No Eyes actually makes sense when you think about how to fight the dream variants of bosses like the False Knight, Soul Master, ect.
    In order for those bosses to dream, you must first strike them down.

    • @ioanaalexandra6885
      @ioanaalexandra6885 3 роки тому +89

      It would make sense, yes, but then you have the Dung Defender who does have a dream variant despite not being dead. My theory is that it just refers to how every infected bug is basically a reanimated body, dead, but puppeteered around by the Radiance, who is, as we know, in the Dream World.

    • @bradleywade4781
      @bradleywade4781 3 роки тому +42

      @@ioanaalexandra6885 That would make a bit more sense. Although it's worth mentioning that the dream variants of bosses that are still alive (such as dung defender and NKG if that even counts) are all DLC. Not that it means anything though, just kinda interesting ya know?

    • @ioanaalexandra6885
      @ioanaalexandra6885 3 роки тому +12

      @@bradleywade4781 That's a really good observation, didn't even realize! I think you're right about it not being of much significance, but who knows :)

    • @crossyright9493
      @crossyright9493 3 роки тому +14

      I know im late but to add, maybe the line
      "What inside you?"
      "Strip it out"
      Refer to dream or mind, basically saying. The radiance coming, get rid of your mind/dream. Which is what the radiance needed to infect.

  • @maxeon0937
    @maxeon0937 3 роки тому +476

    Something about gorb:
    Maybe the beyond is just the surface.
    Hallownest seems to be completely underground, with no connection to the surface.
    Maybe, ascending with Gorb, is going to the place he came from, the surface.
    Edit: I made this comment yesterday and it has so many likes already! I guess my random thoughts are good sometimes...

    • @Dinoman972
      @Dinoman972 3 роки тому +104

      Very interesting theory. I imagine the surface would be an alien environment for most of the bugs in Hallownest, so it ties in with the use of the term "lifeform". It _might_ also tie in with the theory that Gorb is a Godseeker. The Godseekers come from the Land of Storms, where they worshipped the Gods of Thunder and Rain. This area seems to be above the surface since, well, there's no storms underground.

    • @SpitFyre37
      @SpitFyre37 3 роки тому +12

      Aren't the Howling Cliffs above ground? I like this theory, but if Gorb is found above ground anyways, where does he ascend to?

    • @maxeon0937
      @maxeon0937 3 роки тому +35

      @@SpitFyre37 i think howling cliffs is still in a cave

    • @J0hnB09
      @J0hnB09 3 роки тому +15

      Maxeon 09 in real life we made a building big enough to have it’s own weather, so the cave might be really, really big.

    • @Jadez1207
      @Jadez1207 3 роки тому +14

      @@J0hnB09 Might just be a regular cave but they're bugs so it seems huge

  • @markeye2043
    @markeye2043 2 роки тому +25

    8:45
    Theory: Markoth learned/suspected the truth about the Radience, how they turned their backs on her to serve the Pale King, and more than likely came to prove his suspicions by searching and finding the moulting shell of the Pale Wyrm.

  • @tanksear
    @tanksear 3 роки тому +14

    Marmu Lore: The queen is teaching me to fly!!!!!
    Xero Lore: I didn't like the king so I died
    Elder Hu Lore: The mantises didn't like me so I died
    Galien Lore: I came to this dangerous place to train. But they overwhelmed me and killed me.
    Markoth Lore: I'm a moth... but *violent*
    No Eyes Lore: *They tore out my eyes and now I will do the same to you*
    Gorb Lore: *A S C E N D*

  • @leggomyeggo5773
    @leggomyeggo5773 3 роки тому +317

    I swear mossbag is the only guy who can make gorb sound more interesting than he already is

  • @trashbomb
    @trashbomb 3 роки тому +405

    Smh we need to stop people from selling cookies. This is the third time this week some has died selling them.

    • @gabriel.424
      @gabriel.424 3 роки тому +41

      how many girl scouts will it take before the government starts taking cookie control seriously? 😔

    • @ofthecaribbean
      @ofthecaribbean 3 роки тому +10

      We need common sense cookie control laws. If it saves even one life...

    • @FlippinEgg
      @FlippinEgg 3 роки тому +7

      moment of silence for the brave troops who died selling cookies

  • @vertigofy6699
    @vertigofy6699 3 роки тому +27

    I definitely think Gorb being a godseeker has more credit than was stated
    "The Beyond" could very well be the "Land beyond Hallownest"
    the term lifeform could also be related to how godseekers are a hivemind, although i dont think that holds much weight (still probably more than aliens lmaooo)

  • @nicobychok1037
    @nicobychok1037 3 роки тому +14

    5:03 I knew it was a joke but it still freaked me out

  • @smartpuff7389
    @smartpuff7389 3 роки тому +285

    No Eyes is dark as hell, and I love it. I also found Marmu’s dialogue rather sad- she died protecting the garden of a hidden queen, waiting for her to teach her to fly.

    • @Anonymous-ks1pn
      @Anonymous-ks1pn 2 роки тому +36

      and the worse thing is he has a marked grave which means the white lady would have known

    • @MinnieRightHere
      @MinnieRightHere 10 місяців тому +1

      So am I the only one who compares Marmu to Spinel from Steven Universe or…

  • @akirbyobsessee7396
    @akirbyobsessee7396 3 роки тому +312

    No Eyes’ song IS probably the bugnish version of her original song. The “1, 2, They’re coming for you... 3, 4, better watch the floor..” still lines up with her song in game

    • @clownyhank4985
      @clownyhank4985 3 роки тому +14

      Creepypasta: im the scariest story ever!!
      no eyes: hold my kid.

    • @akirbyobsessee7396
      @akirbyobsessee7396 3 роки тому +2

      @ISABELLA ABALOS My favorite show! Lemniscate Locomotive!

    • @ericmendesspada8960
      @ericmendesspada8960 3 роки тому

      @ISABELLA ABALOS infinity train?

    • @BlueSkyBirdies
      @BlueSkyBirdies Рік тому

      "Bugnish"? That's a cute name for the game's little nonsense language, I like it 💙

  • @-matine-7412
    @-matine-7412 3 роки тому +21

    Fun fact: No Eyes contains No I’s

  • @Helixforce
    @Helixforce 3 роки тому +15

    I personally think the background info behind Marmu is really sweet! Here we have a mother supporting her son financially, and him putting a part of her into the game. While Marmu as a character does not tie too much into the game, I feel it could be the mother's favourite animal, and the carefree and happy character may reflect her. It's heartwarming to think of it this way, and I almost hope this theory is true.

  • @zememerr2329
    @zememerr2329 3 роки тому +249

    Samuel Dixon: Ok, so he will stay in the corners and shoot projectiles and his shield at you.
    Team Cherry: Yes… Say, do you mind if we took out the floor later down the line? And also create a boss who’s difficulty can rival the superboss of the game?

    • @angelthebagel7776
      @angelthebagel7776 3 роки тому +15

      Well the radiance version of him anyway.

    • @Shrek_es_mi_pastor
      @Shrek_es_mi_pastor 3 роки тому +2

      Eh he ain't that hard

    • @J.R.Unbound
      @J.R.Unbound 2 роки тому +7

      He's one of 2 bosses I've yet to Radiant. The other being AbsRad.
      Update: Beat him. Still hate him.

    • @pedroivog.s.6870
      @pedroivog.s.6870 2 роки тому +2

      He is the personification of bullet hell

    • @J.R.Unbound
      @J.R.Unbound 2 роки тому +5

      @@pedroivog.s.6870 He is the personification of hell.

  • @lazyb0nez_
    @lazyb0nez_ 3 роки тому +229

    He started talking about Gorb and decided to go full “Ancient Aliens” on us

    • @bowlwasprobablytaken7149
      @bowlwasprobablytaken7149 2 роки тому +8

      ancient aliens, its all true, im an expert just like you!

    • @TheDJBrojo
      @TheDJBrojo 2 роки тому +4

      @@bowlwasprobablytaken7149 And like you im a genius, before my time!

    • @bowlwasprobablytaken7149
      @bowlwasprobablytaken7149 2 роки тому +3

      @@TheDJBrojo disbelieving, thats the real crime!

  • @mcgoldenblade4765
    @mcgoldenblade4765 2 роки тому +15

    Destroying the infection inside a dream? I think Xero was onto something and we were none the wiser.

  • @TheEepyMagi
    @TheEepyMagi 2 роки тому +59

    I've always thought Gorb was a Godseeker that took off his mask and went insane because he tried to attune without it. Maybe it's how he lost connection to the godseeker's one mind as well.
    And technically, just because the Godseekers are wrapped up like mummies doesn't mean they aren't sluglike. In my opinion, the godseeker sitting by the lake appears sluglike. Considering we never see one walk around, it's impossible to conclude.
    Additionally, "mysterious life form" matches up with Godseekers as well. They aren't native to Hollownest, they came from somewhere else. If one showed up before the infection, describing it as a "mysterious life form" checks out.
    On top of all that, "dreamborn god of the beyond" fits in with the very *existence* of godhome. It exists in the dream realm, but beyond any normal dream, as only those attuning or being attuned to can access it

    • @Trankuiru
      @Trankuiru 7 місяців тому

      This comment is already so old but damnn I like this theory a lot

    • @magnateze
      @magnateze 5 місяців тому

      A bit late to comment on the theory, but I was thinking the godseekers might be slug like until I realised you can the the god seeker in the junk pit very clearly has limbs and isn't slug like

  • @tomstarbuck8162
    @tomstarbuck8162 3 роки тому +364

    So how long till the “hornet is void” discord bots are made

  • @iamgorb
    @iamgorb 3 роки тому +182

    Finally, a video with ME!

  • @mvsh
    @mvsh 3 роки тому +8

    0:14
    That's just savage. Stamping on man's dream the moment he dies. You don't have a heart

  • @cinder6775
    @cinder6775 3 роки тому +10

    Ah yes, delivering cookies is an incredibly dangerous profession

  • @Azzar19
    @Azzar19 3 роки тому +490

    "Moss bag is cringe" - CEO of grammar errors, 2020

    • @theoarguellopaz1454
      @theoarguellopaz1454 3 роки тому +9

      "Who is moosbag?"

    • @Ryan50Ryan
      @Ryan50Ryan 3 роки тому +5

      CEO of grammar errors AKA Mr. YEET

    • @ze_zamzam
      @ze_zamzam 3 роки тому +2

      You guys should really come and check out the discord because now you're laughing but those messages are true😂😂😂

    • @Benchuuu
      @Benchuuu 3 роки тому

      Smh

    • @ze_zamzam
      @ze_zamzam 3 роки тому

      @@Benchuuu oh hi bench

  • @benjaminfricke4791
    @benjaminfricke4791 3 роки тому +68

    “What happened to the other backers you ask? Well, that’s a good question.”
    -Mossbag

  • @garance6606
    @garance6606 3 роки тому +5

    The fact that you used THAT music from the movie "Annihilation" in the Gorb passage fills me with joy.
    (the fact that you criticize the only postlogy StarWars film that was actively trying to be actual cinema, less)
    But Annihilation is so gooood yes x)

  • @alexlehtinen7246
    @alexlehtinen7246 3 роки тому +9

    I think that Marmu getting taught how to fly from The White Lady means that: He would turn into a cocoon (since cocoons hang from trees) and he would come out as a moth. (which can fly) :)

  • @dapperpenguin6925
    @dapperpenguin6925 3 роки тому +128

    You forgot part of Markoth’s lore.
    He’s a PAIN in the ABDOMEN in the Pantheon of Hallownest.

  • @RavenBane
    @RavenBane 3 роки тому +127

    No eyes lore, ripped out her eyes to combat infection, got murdered by her children it's deep and stuff
    no one:
    Gorb: ASCEND WITH GORB ASCEND ASCEND GREAT MIND!

    • @nolife5268
      @nolife5268 3 роки тому +3

      @Pure_Steve _1153 Raven just got the gender wrong

    • @RavenBane
      @RavenBane 3 роки тому

      yea sorry steve :D

  • @parknplay8328
    @parknplay8328 3 роки тому +9

    3:14 I don't know, you're supposed to tell me.

  • @whatthewhatthe9117
    @whatthewhatthe9117 3 роки тому +14

    Headcannon:
    Mr. Mushroom and hunter did coke with Gorb given locations

  • @RED-jg6mt
    @RED-jg6mt 3 роки тому +79

    That Gorb origin story is so fitting, I honestly wouldn't want it any other way

  • @Changoos123
    @Changoos123 3 роки тому +253

    Imagine administrating that hellhole- wait...

    • @fedboy998
      @fedboy998 3 роки тому +1

      Old Fishlips yea nice try man lmao

    • @Changoos123
      @Changoos123 3 роки тому +1

      @Old Fishlips good i guess

  • @gameninjac6608
    @gameninjac6608 3 роки тому +1

    "Xero dreamt of cutting down the infection in his dreams."
    I too, dream while I am dreaming.

  • @dddeergirl
    @dddeergirl 3 роки тому +13

    16:59 it seems to me that the "they" is her children, that she is noticing they're infected, and how she wants to rid them of it

  • @srdjanbacic6654
    @srdjanbacic6654 3 роки тому +91

    I hope somone will see this,
    I alweys thought that Xeros line "Ah.. I can see now. Those who turn ageinst the King are doomed as soon as they raise their weapon" is interesting. It could mean that kinds knights are simply that compedent but.. i think there is something more, that Pale Kind could pretty much paralise of straight up kill his subjects wiht his will power. Its a bit of a streach but its based on the tablets on the end of Hollownest "Those foolish enough to traverse this void must pay the toll and relinquish the precious mind this kingdom grants". If its the Pale King who gives reason to the bugs, and without him they lose it, it is possible that he fills them wiht his light sorta like Radiance does, and that he can take it awey from his subjects. Its a bit of a streach but Xero line was too specific for me, i hope its worth consideration.

    • @tovi3280
      @tovi3280 3 роки тому +3

      streach

    • @ilovecheez7769
      @ilovecheez7769 3 роки тому +4

      You fool. The pale king is a mafioso.

    • @ConFlow247
      @ConFlow247 3 роки тому +4

      English

    • @pringlelingle6827
      @pringlelingle6827 2 роки тому +5

      Xero I always took in two ways he was a elite captain of the hallownest military fallen to the radiance.
      Or
      Xero was a elite captain who sought to overthrow the caste structure of hallownest society both the grub confirm this caste system and the prejudice of it, so Xero attempts rebellion and is subsequently crushed due to the pale king predictions alerting him to Xero's treachery.

  • @neojet280
    @neojet280 3 роки тому +308

    I think gorb's backstory is simple. He lied about being smart and Bs his way to getting a statue of him and then he died and was buried there and didn't accept his death because he isn't smart

    • @weebs4907
      @weebs4907 3 роки тому +15

      But.....but the fact that someone actually build a statue of him means he actually smart .

    • @neojet280
      @neojet280 3 роки тому +37

      @@weebs4907 The only thing he's smart at is lying about being smart

    • @ibraheemshuaib8954
      @ibraheemshuaib8954 3 роки тому +23

      A dude was smart enough to lie about selling the Eiffel Tower twice. Another dude was smart enough to lie about needing money to build an airport that isn't real. A puny statue is nothing.

    • @neojet280
      @neojet280 3 роки тому +8

      @@ibraheemshuaib8954 EXACTLY
      He could have had a temple built or something else that describe who the heck he was but *NO* he just wanted a stupid little statue

    • @Karin17S
      @Karin17S 3 роки тому +7

      So you have chosen
      Death

  • @binglemccringle705
    @binglemccringle705 2 роки тому +6

    4:48 looks like Hu came from silksongs area (cant think of the name big whoops)
    prayer beads, that tan monk-like outfit, even the wider, more stout kind of bodyshape all tie it in personally

    • @rahulverma8774
      @rahulverma8774 2 роки тому

      What if silksong is a prequel and most of the ghosts we saw in hollow knight will appear in silksong
      By making silksong prequel ,team cherry can keep all endings as canon

  • @punakahuna4803
    @punakahuna4803 3 роки тому

    You are among the few lore specialists I can watch. Thanks for getting right to the point, acknowledging multiple theories, and occasionally popping in funny jives(they get me laughing most of the time)!

  • @dominatornh981
    @dominatornh981 3 роки тому +332

    Just because I’m a mod doesn’t mean I have to leave a clever comment
    Instead I’ll compliment you on yet another clever, well made video

    • @hsifyarc2072
      @hsifyarc2072 3 роки тому +1

      Rolling Kirby Dominator is a mod on mossbags server

    • @elrond2036
      @elrond2036 3 роки тому +4

      ew, imagine that

    • @slazac7985
      @slazac7985 3 роки тому +1

      @@elrond2036 Couldn't be me

    • @rollingkirby
      @rollingkirby 3 роки тому

      Hsifyarc thanks

  • @Stizzl
    @Stizzl 3 роки тому +119

    8:50
    Seeing Ronald McDonald T-posing is somehow deeply unsettling

  • @compoflask6262
    @compoflask6262 3 роки тому +1

    your editing quality has notably step-upped its game, I’m proud to see it!

  • @yadawgcostals1591
    @yadawgcostals1591 2 роки тому +7

    How Xero fought while he is alive:
    He uses lance like nails and throws them like spear for long range, and uses their bladed edges for close range combat.
    How Markoth fought while he was alive:
    Uses his shield in one hand and his nail in the other, most likely very acrobatic.
    How Gorb fought while he was alive:
    His ultimate brain capacity allows him to pick up nails with his telekinesis and launch them toward his foes. Or perhaps he CREATES THE NAILS WITH HIS MIND!
    How Galien fought while he was alive: spin threw his scythe for a ranged attack and used its sharp edges for close ranged attacks
    How No Eyes fought when she was alive:
    Unknown, most likely used a nail like most of the bugs in Hallownest. Maybe she threw her weird ass children at her foes and tore their eyes out 👀
    How Elder Hu fought while he was alive:
    Most likely didn't do much, but his dream attacks suggest he might have used spells.
    How Marmu fought while she was alive:
    r o l l

  • @Kerosiin
    @Kerosiin 3 роки тому +295

    I feel like we can all relate to Marmu
    She died waiting for the queens return
    We will die waiting for silksong
    Btw I can’t be the only one who though marmuu had her mouth open and has black
    eyes?

    • @WinterMute_0
      @WinterMute_0 3 роки тому +17

      You are not alone

    • @FellowCreeper
      @FellowCreeper 3 роки тому +29

      I had to double check her design and oh my God, you're right-

    • @somerandomguyontheinternet6782
      @somerandomguyontheinternet6782 3 роки тому +26

      i can't see it as anything else please help i am so confu-

    • @emilypepper1277
      @emilypepper1277 3 роки тому +22

      some random guy on the internet I believe it’s supposed to be the little white “teeth” are her eyes, and the little baby “arms” are her mandibles.

    • @liamwaite8923
      @liamwaite8923 3 роки тому +8

      I can't see it as anything else. Please help

  • @aamoslansikunnas
    @aamoslansikunnas 3 роки тому +157

    Yes my life has a meaning for 18minutes again

    • @yoannschuler7224
      @yoannschuler7224 3 роки тому

      I feel this so hard

    • @np_animation6319
      @np_animation6319 3 роки тому +1

      Can I please summon you to help me with watcher knights ;c

    • @yoannschuler7224
      @yoannschuler7224 3 роки тому +2

      @@np_animation6319 The trick is, don't die
      Seriously though, try equipping some range charms and hit them only in between the sword slashes, try to recover hp whenever you kill one of them (when there's only one alive you can safely get one hp once you dodged its attack) and yeah that's all i can tell you
      It's a hard boss fight, you'll make it

    • @np_animation6319
      @np_animation6319 3 роки тому

      @@yoannschuler7224 Yes but what if I could summon solaire tho ;o

    • @yoannschuler7224
      @yoannschuler7224 3 роки тому +1

      @@np_animation6319 oh you know him that's awkward
      Well I guess you could try some sun dance judging by the name

  • @ninolloydbandiola5581
    @ninolloydbandiola5581 2 роки тому +4

    12:55 when I first encountered Gorb, I, *somehow*, miraculously dodged his attacks without knowing, and him seeming like a joke character, I thought he didn't even deal any damage
    until he started spitting 2 waves of.....whatever his projectiles are

  • @netbol-pv5xp
    @netbol-pv5xp 3 роки тому +11

    "Silksong is gonna be released in 2054."
    I guess Silksong is the Half Life 3 of the Hollow Knight fandom now.

  • @prototypeone7534
    @prototypeone7534 3 роки тому +12

    Nice use of the Annihilation music for Gorb, The Alien is an incredible piece of music

  • @otosuchomel5875
    @otosuchomel5875 3 роки тому +108

    So for Team Cherry, kids eating their parents is a no-no, but parents eating their kids is perfectly fine?

    • @hoshitime7785
      @hoshitime7785 3 роки тому +17

      What about
      Burn the father, feed the child
      A bbq

    • @Prince_-vu4wu
      @Prince_-vu4wu 3 роки тому +2

      @@hoshitime7785 bbq bacon cheeseburger now at Wendy's with a special grubby kick in your shit!

    • @lindylou538
      @lindylou538 3 роки тому +11

      @@hoshitime7785 yep the entire nightmare ritual is about a kid eating its dad

    • @tinvukovic9814
      @tinvukovic9814 3 роки тому +2

      @person good Isn't Grubfather going to be eaten by his children from the inside-out or something along those lines?
      I guess it's okay as long as it involves the parent's consent. Or vore.

    • @ibraheemshuaib8954
      @ibraheemshuaib8954 3 роки тому +1

      Fun Fact: You can hear the grubs inside the grub father which means that they are alive.

  • @hehehehe7881
    @hehehehe7881 2 роки тому +3

    i don't think all ghosts are inherently unaware of death, though some definitely are. cloth is aware she is dead after the traitor lord kills her and her ghost appears, saying she's going to nola or something like that, who I assume is probably also dead from her dream dialogue if you save her after defeating the traitor lord. the bugs' attitude towards evidence of their own death might (in some cases) just be like when something happens to you and time passes and it becomes nothing but just "something that happened", though it is hard to tell

  • @nataliehollow1619
    @nataliehollow1619 2 роки тому +16

    Galien: *claims to be the fiercest warrior in all of hallownest*
    Also Galien: *can be evaded and beaten just by moving from side to side*

  • @kristofkoncz8634
    @kristofkoncz8634 3 роки тому +84

    "All dream warrior bosses were designed by Kickstarter backers..."
    So what you're telling me, is that relatively speaking, you could track down the guy who though Markoth was a good idea make him regret thinking that.
    Oh boi, what a mistake to reveal his name.

    • @Natoursofcourse
      @Natoursofcourse 3 роки тому +7

      Dude, the tactic for markoth is patience. Run around the stage in a circle until he spins his shield and then charge slash him a few times.

    • @Spellweaver5
      @Spellweaver5 3 роки тому +18

      Except his idea for Markoth was different from the one implemented. And the names of those who changed it aren't really hidden.

    • @coomeskid4475
      @coomeskid4475 3 роки тому +9

      You have team cherry to blame for godhome's no floor fight. That was all them

  • @TemperanceL2
    @TemperanceL2 3 роки тому +15

    One thing about the ghost is that, even while being backers things, in game they really didn't feel out of place. It felt pretty natural to find some warrior of the pasts, with their own personnalities and such.

    • @JammyJam5588
      @JammyJam5588 3 роки тому +1

      Given that going by the interviews in this video, Team Cherry changed basically everything they wanted except base concepts about the backer bugs. It only makes sense they now fit so well.
      Going by Markuth, they didnt even tell the backers that they decided to make the dead warriors unaware that they died now.

  • @okarin106
    @okarin106 3 роки тому +2

    I have been just chilling in my bed
    this whole day, watching your videos. Yesterday one of your videos was recomended to me and i love em. Great content and super interesting for me being a Hollow Knight lore newbie 😅👍
    Great videos 🖐

  • @TheAdvertisement
    @TheAdvertisement 3 роки тому +7

    3:50 “For when your warrior greets the Hollow Knight.”
    Ah, so even Team Cherry was confused about our protagonist back then.

    • @milk_choc7889
      @milk_choc7889 3 роки тому +1

      Actually, in Kickstarter pages and dev notes, the player was called the Hollow Knight, as well as the Vessels. It likely changed during development, like Tiso.

  • @kyuura4324
    @kyuura4324 3 роки тому +44

    The hunter’s journal describes Gorb as Gorb
    Oh hey, my theory for no eyes was not that far off, if yours is correct

  • @siruv193
    @siruv193 3 роки тому +18

    Mossbag you goof
    The beyond most likely refers to the lands outside of hallownest; and of pale king's influence (he is situated at the howling cliffs after all).
    I think gorb was a bug who, amidst the mindless bugs of the "beyond", somehow got access to knowledge, and thus claimed himself as a great mind.

  • @lew.is.b
    @lew.is.b 3 роки тому +3

    gorb looks like a snail collided with a peacock and they somehow fused, his name being a description for the sound made by such a collision

  • @anemodude9544
    @anemodude9544 3 роки тому +3

    Right after you said markoth the first time an ad played that said blood gore and violence
    Makes sense

  • @minemahssolariseveryday5752
    @minemahssolariseveryday5752 3 роки тому +20

    17:44
    “Have you heard of a little hellhole called discord?”
    *MUSIC KICKS UP*
    *ad immediately interrupts*
    Beautiful

  • @RolandTheMighty
    @RolandTheMighty 3 роки тому +32

    Gorb in one word: ASCEND

    • @wertrasim4666
      @wertrasim4666 3 роки тому

      ASCEND ASCEND, ASCEND WITH GORB

    • @Monsterconnoiseur
      @Monsterconnoiseur 3 роки тому +1

      I just wanted that ascended Gorb be the hardest ascended it would be so cool

  • @joshwebster1802
    @joshwebster1802 3 роки тому +1

    Your analogy’s are truly incredible
    9:40

  • @abyssmal0
    @abyssmal0 3 роки тому +4

    The Grimmtroupe has arrived to spread its flames

  • @ShadowlessDeath47
    @ShadowlessDeath47 3 роки тому +98

    There's a chance that Thislewind isn't referring to Markoth. He is a ghost, and cannot move from his grave. Perhaps Markoth is a younger generation than Thislewind, and was trying to explore what happened to the bug Thislewind is mentioning. Maybe we'll see this mysterious bug in Silksong, still searching for whatever truth they were looking for.

    • @fungi265
      @fungi265 3 роки тому +24

      Thistlewind mentions that the bug was a moth and that they died in the kingdoms edge though so it's most likely there referring to Markoth.

    • @splinter360
      @splinter360 Рік тому +1

      It's definitely Markoth.

    • @evelynball231
      @evelynball231 Рік тому +2

      I reckon it is Markoth, and I think that links to the mystery of the Colosseum that was originally gonna be in the game if that makes sense?

  • @drakeconsumerofsoulsandche4303
    @drakeconsumerofsoulsandche4303 3 роки тому +19

    Nobody:
    The pale king making clones: *some of you may die, but that's a risk I'm willing to take*

  • @markeye2043
    @markeye2043 2 роки тому +4

    13:44
    I’m both disappointed and VERY relieved we didn’t get this in the main game.

  • @eyelessjack4213
    @eyelessjack4213 3 роки тому +4

    mossbag! I have a special request. I've been a huge Hollow Knight fan and I always loved watching your videos and I really want you to show me something.
    My request is can you make a video about literally every secret little thing in the game that doesn't give a "percentage". Like for example the dream nail-able moth world with backer quotes and the uhm grub virtue something.. and the secret zote boss in the Hall of Gods! I never seen ANY of these! I really want to just see and appreciate every little thing in the game before I once and for all finish it. (All bindings on Pantheon of Hallownest.. fuck its so hard)