Modern Design for a Shower Pan
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- Опубліковано 4 жов 2024
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What pan was that? Does it still need cement under or will go on plywood?
@@djony10 you need a 1/4 x 1/4 notch trowel tinset layer underneath the foam pan
Wow, this video opened my eyes to a world of possibilities. After watching, I spent 45 minutes doodling different designs. Planning to DIY my shower, and figured I'd just wing it with an angle grinder, but I checked and you can cheaply rent a wet saw from Lowe's/Depot, and do something fancy. Thanks for the inspiration!
I’m an tile and I’ve learned from this guy . He is really good . Thank you Landberg
Answered every single question I had in one simple video. Thanks!
In NZ we have only ever laid large format tiles in shower floors, nice video but with the clips you don’t need to put them on the angle cuts because they are supposed to be on different planes and not flat
Thank you for your time and effort for this video. 🙏 I am literally just going to be doing my first WEDI pre sloped curbless shower pan and walls. I wasn't sure of how to figure out my tile pattern with the same large format tile you used. I've done plenty of tile just never this. You helped me out CONSIDERABLY in making this video. You have no idea the weight lifted off me because of it. The lord works in mysterious ways as I've been worrying about this. God bless you and a new subscriber now. I'm excited to see how many other of your videos are going to be beneficial and helpful. I am a sponge when it comes to knowledge. I've been in the trades for over 40 years and I'm still learning every day due to guys like you. Thank you brother 🙏
Thanks Jim for the kind comment!
Landberg, I don't understand why you spend so much time, effort and money to do these mockups, but I don't have to. All I can say is thank you and I had never seen this before and it is fantastic work. Keep it up my friend and I hope the subscribers follow your effort! You and Sal are the best tile guys on here, no doubt.
It's simply a fun hobby for me! I like the film/editing part of it all, plus I get to play with tools all day! Just a kid in a candy store. Thanks for the watch and kind comment 👊
I for one super appreciate the service! A lot of great info
@@LandbergTileTV And I can imagine its better to experiment doing this at waste-level outside.
I’ve been doing tile showers for about 8 years now. Here in rural Arkansas its all old school. 1’x1’ sheet’s sloped to the center of the shower to a round drain. Well I don’t want to bore you but just might land a bath where the homeowner wants big format tile in shower floor that’s why im here! The thing is we only dry pack our pan. How would you go about doing this in a dry pack pan???? I would think it would lead to hollow spots at the bottom or am i just naive? Help thanks!! New sub here!
Looks nice and sleek. I would not have expected this to work, because that inner circle of wedges I would think would be trying to keep all those tiles up and level instead of maintaining that slop down to the drain. Lately I've been using river rock shower pan floors which mold to the slope perfectly, and many people like the look, but they do have a lot of grout. I use a grout maximizer sealer to mix the grout instead of water, adds $20 tot he cost, but worth it.
That was demonstrated so excellently,and was so easy to do my shower floor following your 12 by 24 tile install thanks heaps,subscribed.
Watch this, and save yourself a ton of work. I wish I watched this before I started to make life difficult for myself. Much regret can be avoided by listening to this pro. I would not hesitate to subscribe.
Thank you sir!
I like the look of the LFT tile on the shower pan. And I like the way you did the layout to keep your slope consistent.
It's a great idea and not all that difficult to pull off! It definitely takes more time though..
If only we could walk around the shower pan at waist level on the site. Great demo, will add it to my "toolbag" along with the wealth of info you've already shared.
Right!? would save our knee's lol. Thanks for the watch and comment 👊
What a way to wake up and have a video from Landberg!!!! I work nights, do it's now 12:45p. Eastern and getting a bit of a late start, but man oh man a great way to start the day!!! Great video as always, the lines are stupid dope clean, and Dirty Jersey out!!!!
In Ireland we call this enveloping. Ive done loads of these this way without any issues. Mostly in disabled shower areas.
Yea it’s great to do it that way. We do it in restaurants. Because it’s a great way to so call bend tile..great video your the man🤛
thank you as always sir!
I new to this videos and they are addicted to me good job
it s the best demonstration and tutorial!!! However, I was a bit surprised seeing tile levelling system... I was sure, all the tile levelling clips and wedges kits are designed to maintain a flat tile surface only. It seems to me, these clips would tend to straighten tiles as much as they can, which is against of what we need. May be you can share your technique? Probably you were tightened them not too much, or, were using any special (slope designed) version of levelling kit? Also... The first (dry try) can`t be precisely correct, because you use wet cuts. The disk thickness is at least 5-6mm. So, in fact, you have all the pattern "shrinkage", or, you had to compensate this by grouts size. Is there any way to do split cuts by dry cutter to avoid such results, or, wet saw is the best solution? Thank you
Wow bro. You’re the nerdy guy that could be been an engineer or something stereotypically of a creative and intelligent individual. To see those characteristics put to use in a construction scenario is so cool. I’m sure it’s a very desired since it’s so unique. 🤘🏻👍🏻
Thanks Chris, appreciate the comment 👊
Using a pre-fabricated board with a linear drain (like for instance Wedi) would save so much time.
This is EXACTLY what I like & looks unique! Very cleanly done
What a nice tutorial! We have a bit different floor waste "Bermuda" It should be installed before tiling and tiles must be laid around it. Can you tell me, whether any gap must be maintained in between the square waste and tiles around it (like a grout), or no gap around the grate? Which level difference must be in between the grate edge and the adjacent tiles? 0.5, 1 or 2 mm? And the last- how to finish this gap around square waste- the same like grout (epoxy)mix, silicone or leave it as it is with some tile adhesive inside? Thank you.
Thanks for taking your time to detail this. We appreciate 🙏
Thanks for sharing great video concise and to the point I was always intimidated about installing large format tile in the shower pan thanks for the tips
Awesome video brother, I just learned a new trick! Awesome!
Great video sir. Will definitely be keeping this as an option on future jobs. Thanks for sharing
Thank you sir for the watch, view and kind comment ! 👊
I always enjoy watching your videos. Keep up the good work.
Thanks brother, will do!👊
Great demo. I'm pretty sure it will be a lot harder than how you make it look here. lol.
You can do it!
Outstanding work and ideas as usual! So exciting to see your videos pop up on my home screen when I relax from a hard day of setting tile! #tilelife
Thanks brother, so exciting to see nice comments like this when I relax from a hard day also! Thanks for the watch and comment 👊👊👊
Great videos always...are you sure this is not a video to show how to install a pre-fabricated, pre-sloped shower pan? 😂 cheers from Windsor Canada!
lol, you know how it is...have to be super clear or I'll trigger some folks! Thanks for the watch
How thick is the tile saw blade?
Great original video my friend, thank you. I would appreciate any of your inputs if you ever get the time to reply:
in a real life scenario, would you pre-cut all your tiles and fit them with spacers to fill the pan and then use a chalk line to pull your corners and then take the tiles out and recreate yourself the same pattern on a flat floor to mark them with a straight edge and sharpy ready to cut? Is there a chance the diagonal cuts will look thinner since you are somewhat raising the opposing sides of the tiles on one side or you alculate that and cut straight in the middle of the sharpy line? Would you recommend the same technique weather you are using a Schluter pan and Schluter drain vs dry packed pan and drain cap that can be adjusted with a little offset all around? Is this technique different whether the wall tiles go first or after? Some time the slope is bigger than ¼ per foot, is there anything I should watch for when that happens? A 16th difference on a grout line on a high end job sometime created problems for me if you can believe that and for some stupid reason that I can’t still understand I always get the jobs with the high contrast grout, never fails; and when there is so much contrast between the tiles and grout, all grout lines have to be bang-on. Should I just consider that I will need to shave the tiles in my price or this technique is pretty much idiot proof? Thanks.
A wee tip for your dewalt. Stick your pump in a bucket of clean water beside your saw & it will last years instead or circulating dirty water through it.
Awesome video. I am about to redo my bathroom with a schluter pan and am making it curbless. Would love to use this method. Can you give an honest assessment of the difficulty of this method for someone who’s never really done tile work before?
Thanks for your demostration. anywhere we can make donations help this channel out.
Can you do a video on when and why you use a manual and a wet saw? Seems like the wet saw is only needed miters almost.
Dude bad ass technic ,thanks that was super cool..
Can this be done in a dry pack pan? Im afraid there would be hollow spots . Do i need to do my dry pack with those lines from corner of shower to corner of drain??
Awesome demo! Have you tried this on offset drain? (like the Kerdi 38in. x 60in. offset shower pan) Would the concept be the same still (lines to all corners) since the drain is only 10 inches on center from the plumbing wall?
Yes, I did it here in this video: ua-cam.com/video/S7_-wA9sK1o/v-deo.html
@@LandbergTileTV Thanks man you're the best! Hope to see you do more with this concept of large tiles in the shower... the rest of the world this is big, love this style
Great idea! I am doing a large shower right now, and one problem is that there is a limited selection of mosaic for the shower pan, and most of it is $6 to $12 a foot. I am going to do it this way next time so I will have any tile to pick from instead the hassle of trying to match a mosaic to the wall tile.
Not to mention it looks fantastic! You are a farking genius!
Great video! As all are! I am going to try this on my next shower. Curious: why did you offset the tiles 50%?
I did s bathroom for an architect 19 years ago he asked if we could 12x24s in a shower pan and drew up a similar pattern it forced to buy a better tile saw so i could cut it
Nice job, I love the look of this. One question... does using LFT on the floor make the surface slippery?
Not if it's a matte finish
Your bad ass bro will be buying your shirts soon 👍🏼
Great idea but...Nice work but you missed one tile to cut . Should be the same pattern or not? Thanks.
Negative, this is a 50% offset layout. This is how it should look. You can always install a straight pattern if you like also.
This isn't a new idea. In 96 i learn tiler in Germany and we also put the tile in the shower on this way. You make a good job but not perfect. Your grout tile was not 100%. Sry
Nice countertop with a drain
A master at his game!
Excellent demonstration.
Great look! Can you use other types of tiles or just porcelain?
Yes you can, but porcelain is so durable compared to ceramic and stone. It will stay looking new much longer.
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Would that have to be slip resistant tile?
I wish Usg still offered this shower system
Thanks for the video! Curious why you laid it out with two rows in the center and half tiles on the sides? Wouldn't three full rows fit?
We typically install 12 X 24 tile at a 50% offset on the walls (brick pattern).
So, we follow that pattern on the floor...
@@LandbergTileTV That makes sense, but why the two rows (lengthwise) bordered by cuts, as opposed to three courses of full tiles? Just wondering if it was intentional?
How did you get it to slope? You add more mud to the exterior of the area vs the center?
Look great!! Is delwat saw is one of you favorite.?
Thanks! and yes, one of our favorite saws.
This Is a great video...one of the best ive seen...i do have a Quick question ...wouldn't the clips want to bring the tiles back to level when installed?
Thank you sir, I appreciate the kind words. With these types of cuts (corner of drain to corner of pan) allows the tiles to sit flat with proper pitch towards the drain.
Clip do not level tiles they only make them flush
Hi thanks I've been looking for this tutorial video. Btw great music choice 👍.
If the drain was offset say 10" towards one corner, would you still draw the lines from drain to corner and cut accordingly?
Yes, but you could adjust depending on whether or not you have small cuts.
@@LandbergTileTV thanks, and what grit diamond pad did you use to bevel the edges on those tiles?
@@moisty254 60 grit pads 👍
@@LandbergTileTV thanks dude I'm literally about to commence this cut style tomorrow 👍
You have great attention to detail 👌
thank you
Nice Work! greatings from Germany.
Thank you very much!
Nice work and nice tools,I think I have every tool that was shown.i never did large format on tile floor but wouldn't the layout look better if 4 full tiles went from center drain.then possibly the 50 percent offset on your rips.im just a big layout and center everything nazi
Thanks for posting this great video. Question: Would it be better by not using tile leveling wedges along the diagonal cuts from the corners? This is the transition line from one facet to the next and is not designed to be level across the transition line. By using leveling wedges, and forcing a level surface across the transition seems like it would interfere with drainage. Thanks again, I plan on using this format in my DIY.
This system should be called an anti lippage system, it does not level the tiles. We use clips and wedges with all of our large format shower pan tiles with success.
ty man
Did you use 1/4” trowel? Should it not be 1/2” for these large tiles? Great video though thanks for this!
I used whatever trowel I had laying around. Yes, you should use a 1/2 on all large format. 👊
Another great video 👌🏻💪🏻💪🏻
My drain is a 1/4” of f both directions. Do you think that would be ok for this application? The shower is roughly 39”x84”
Can you please give some demo on how to do this kind of cuts for off-center drain, when you convert tub into standing shower.
I wish I can upload a hand-drawn picture to show that. Do you have any video on that?
Here is one video for you: ua-cam.com/video/S7_-wA9sK1o/v-deo.html
@@LandbergTileTV Thanks
Muy interesante. Y muy professional.👍
SOLID DEMO BRADDAH🤙🏽🤙🏽🤙🏽
Simply awesome!
Would have been nice to see a close up of the level bubble
This was a demo, the table was not set up on level asphalt. I was showing the pitch..
@@LandbergTileTV Ok cool, I think in metric, thus the reason for comment. Thx for the video, greatly appreciated :)
My base is rectangular (on Slab) and I'm not sure how to do this with the old bathtub shape that I removed. It's a walk in shower from the far end of the drain. Any advice please... I've done the dry pack and membrane.
linear drain would work
If you have 3mm grout lines when you cut your tile do you have to cut 3mm out so it stays the same size so the lines still match?
If so is there a 3mm blade you use or do you do 2 cuts?
Awesome job
Can you or how do you compensate your dry fitting for the loss of material during cutting, especially if you want 1/8" grout line?
That looks amazing!
Why didnt u cut striaght through the two big tiles near the drian...around the drain and have 4 triangle instead of just two..design reason lol...
Lol cool
You're a pro man👌🏻
thank yo sir 👊 thanks for the watch and comment
You forgot to mention cost...the large tile are $3 a sf and mosaics are 8-15 a sf. But yeah, maintenance/cleaning is the main reason to go big.
Great point! You can save a little there. 👍
Bob doyle is that you😂😂😂😂😂
so i dont get it. you cut the tile to slope to the drain, those cuts arn't widened for grout. looks like you have about 5 clips across short-side. So the entire footprint expands 5/8th inch in the short dimension which is no longer the footprint of the shower pan (which it looks like you can actually see from the final result). This may not be a problem for curbless, but even curbless the wall-side edge would be pushed into the wall and some of those tiles wouldn't fit. The only way it would work without cutting extra for a grout line is if the wet saw is cutting 1/8th of an inch off the tile (or whatever your clip size is). I'm sure it's nto cutting 0, but I doubt it's cutting 1/8th of an inch. I'm trying to do the same thing, but I dont' see a way to avoid cutting extra for the grout lines
Very Goode job .
Now if my tile layers weren't so lazy to do this.
Not about lazy. About experience and knowledge to do this work. 75% of tile guys aren't master tilers, they do square and rectangle tile and mesh grid for slopes.
Lazy or you don’t want to pay what it cost to do the work 💀💀🤦🏻♂️😅
Very nice video! Thanks
When you snap the clips the lower part is still between the tiles, so when you grout them the grout is only going to go slightly over the top of remaining clip, surly this must compromise how waterproof the joint is by not achieving full depth of grout. Which will be OK in walkways but will be a problem in areas that are often flooded such as shower trays.
You MUST keep in mind. Grout and tile is NOT waterproof. The shower pan must be waterproofed prior to tile and grout.
@@LandbergTileTV how will the water escape if it enters through the grout as the top of outlet if flush with the top tile. With this in mind using a one piece grp shower tray can only be the fail safe way.
@@johnbonner258 You have no idea how shower waterproofing works lol.
@@darrenr1194 do tell then
Looks nice, but large tiles in the shower are slippery.
Safety first🤘
Yes, you must install a matte tile, or with some texture to it.
R12 rated tiles work a treat not sure how use rate tiles in USA for slippy news in Britain it's r rating
Great video, but I don't understand something. You cut tiles to get an angle between them and then use clips and wedges to level it. How did you manage to keep slope?
When you cut the four angles and install on the pre-sloped pan, the slope simply comes natural.
clips don't level the tiles they just bring the edges together. Tile leveling system is a misnomer. That is why Sal DiBlasi did a whole video on the importance of having the floor flat/level and not relying on the clips for that.
THNX
Can you guys do a review on the Kobalt 10” wet saw?
Interesting you ask, I have it ready to launch tomorrow morning!
Your channel has helped me so much during my apprenticeship tile setting can’t wait love you guys
@@LandbergTileTV sweet dude
What state do you offer your services?
What of the drain is a circle?
does that corner to corner cutting style work for 24x24 also?
yes!
Is this possible in any shower floor like 36 X 36? Thank you!
Yes it is!
Thanks for this video 👍
thanks for the watch 👊
Whats the purpose of cutting from the corner of the drain to the corner of the pan? Is it for aesthetical purposes?? Tyia
It is for proper slope and drainage for water.
@@LandbergTileTV thank you...
Ok that is great but you know that drain pipe is not always on that center do one off that center pls 😙😙😙😙😙
Nice one
when the drain is not centered you lay your cuts on the actual shower pan Then draw your cross lines to each corner. in my opinion
Great idea
Thank you! 😊
great video. I have watched tons of tile video. I don't know if there is another video like this on youtube.
I am doing a wedi single slope to slot drain at one end. The wall side is no problem but the other side meets the floor of the bathroom. It will go from 2 3/4 to nothing. Interestingly wedi sells a metal trim piece for this in europe but not in the states. I asked them why and they said everyone uses curbs in US. Not me.
Question is can a tile be cut on an angle to say 1/16th. It is porcelain tile and looks like the exact tile you have in your video. I can make a metal trim piece but want to keep my options open. Thanks for any help. Subscribed!
Yes, you can taper each tile to meet the pan tile flush. I hope this answered your question.
@@LandbergTileTV Great Thanks
I love this guy glad I got cross your channel subbed here
Thanks, appreciate that!
Great video and better idea! Off subject but do you know of any other brand of wedges that work with the level master clips?
don't know anything about level master clips...
John Rodriguez, I believe that Rigid has a different take on the wedges. They use a screw down system, with 1” plastic retaining screws. I saw a UA-cam video on it.
I have two review video's on Ridgid level max. Yes, they are a spindle system vs. a wedge system.
Can you still apply this technique to a shower with an offset drain or a shower with an odd shape
Yes you can, here is my video on that: ua-cam.com/video/S7_-wA9sK1o/v-deo.html
Looks so much better using a Rubi Score cutter and NO grout joint on pitch cuts,fyi.
you must have grout joints/cuts to obtain your pitch.
@@LandbergTileTV I think he means the rubi makes the relief cuts,and looks like no joint but allows for the pitch still. I've done this But definitely can't use clips and have to really have a perfect mud pitched pan or foam pan ...relief cuts eliminates the grout joint but allows the pitch. It's kinda sexy actually.
Hello. I’m looking to buy a tile saw and was wondering how you like that DEWALT or if you have any other saw you would recommend. I’m looking to stay under $1000. Thanks.
You can get the Dewalt for around $700 at contractors direct dot com. I would definitely recommend the Dewalt, best saw on the market for the money. 👊
With large format tile and the ramondi leveling system do you think a quarter inch square notch trowel is sufficient or do you prefer half inch?
I used 1/4 x 1/4 for this demo. It's also necessary to backbutter each tile. Half inch is too much mortar for sure...👊
@@LandbergTileTV thanks for the feedback. That probably why I had such a mess with mortar since I was using a 1/2" sq notch trowel.
So how would u do this using a kerdi pan w a linear drain postponed toward the showerhead wall??
I can't find anyone in this area who does any modern tile. Couldn't find anyone to install my custom shower spa with jets either...
Yes, single slope offset Schluter pan, linear drain and Matte finish large format tile is a good option. Sorry about your circumstance with finding installers...
@@LandbergTileTV Thank u Landberg for ur feedback, highly appreciated!
My crowded 1943 72"W x 81" L bathroom is getting gutted. Removing the small window adding 60" awning window in shower. The 4x9 white subway will completely cover left wall, window wall, & 30" showerhead (right) wall. Right side will have floating counter & wall mount toilet.
The floor will be 12x24 dark grey matte porcelain tile which. With that design getting the time spot on extremely important. I wanted to go larger tile but thought such small rm 6 tile across & 8 length b good.
When I'm done I'll shoot u some pictures so u can c if I was a good student ;}
Can you do that with circular drains as well?
Yes sir! but square looks better with this method
Sick video I'm going to start doing this