I Bought an $8000 RYOBI 80v Z54Li Electric Riding Mower - Better Than my $3800 Gas Cub Cadet?
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- Опубліковано 24 сер 2023
- So today I buy a super expensive RYOBI Z54Li electric riding mower and put it up against my Cub Cadet ZT1 toi see which is better! Electric vs gas!
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Good luck buying new battery's :P you gonna need them.
Batteries have a 5 year warranty.
@@AutoAuctionRebuilds when u stop mowing make sure they are at at least 80% if your not gonna use it for a while.
Why? These are lithium-ion not lead-acid.
@@ronnyspanneveld8110only need that for YEARS of storage. Yes there are tricks to extend life but not near as necessary.
@@AutoAuctionRebuilds In general, Lithium ion batteries (Li-ion) should not be stored for longer periods of time, either uncharged or fully charged. The best storage method, as determined by extensive experimentation, is to store them at a low temperature, not below 0°C, at 40% to 50% capacity. Storage at 5°C to 15°C is optimal. Since lithium batteries self-discharge, it is recommended that they must be recharged every 12 months.
We can further divide it into short-term storage and long-term storage.
Prices have dropped tremendously on these. This mower is now $4999, the 42" is $3999. Much more competitive now, especially with the gas and maintenance savings factored in.
Wow, that’s awesome!
Randy: I don’t have enough money, I can’t afford to keep all of these vehicles.
Also Randy: I paid $8,000 for an electric lawnmower
😂😅
I’ll be damned if I’d pay full cost for something supposedly “brand new”. If they couldn’t offer a substantial discount on one in that condition, then I’d ask them to order in a “new” one in factory fresh condition! Might be an idea to contact Ryobi direct and complain.
And while he's at it, maybe complain to Home Depot for the abismal service, mind you, by the sounds of it he would probably get a F U from them.
This is a great time for all those 80’s video gamers to get in the lawn care business I’m sure they would have some great skills on this mower lol
Randy - take the mulching plate off the cub cadet and try cutting grass without it. It’s my opinion that your grass was so high when you went to cut it with the mulching kit on that the
Mower had no place to discharge the grass clippings too (mulching kit prevents grass from being discharged through mower discharge chute) thus leaving large clumps of grass on your yard.
Worth noting!😊
Probably not an actual mulch kit. Just a mulch plate.
I'm watching now, and interested in your full review.
I have to get a new mower, and while shopping, I noticed lots of electric now, and I was all wth?
I'm not a huge fan of the mulching mower, just doesn't seem to look as nice as a discharge mower? Might be just me however and I do understand the function of a mulch mower. Guess everything has it use and purpose.
@@goleafsgo8496 doesn’t work well on high thick or wet grass. Leaves clumps of grass behind on cut lawn.
I went all electric on my lawn equipment six years ago and it was the best decision ever. No more gas runs, jerking your arm out of socket pull starting, spending hours and money to winterize in the off season only to dragging equipment to repair shop for hundreds of dollars in repair costs just to get it to start. Now all I do is drop in the battery and push a button. Only maintenance is keep it clean and in off season keep battery from freezing weather.
Great decision Randy!
Lol. 17 years ago I spent $550 on a Honda self propelled mower. In the last 17 years, I've changed the oil and plug every other year, and winterizing it takes literally 90 seconds. Use ethanol free fuel, to winterize, turn off the fuel shut off between the tank and carb, give it the one pull it takes to start, wait about 80 seconds until the fuel bowl of the carb runs out. It uses maybe 8 to 10 gallons of fuel a year for my half acre.
At today's prices, I've spent approximately $170 on fuel, about $40 on oil, maybe $30 on spark plugs, and maybe 3 hours of my life performing maintenance. I learned a long time ago to buy the right equipment from the start and it'll take care of you for a long, long time.
I spent $180 on a Kobalt 210 electric mower 10+years ago and the only maintenance has been sharpening the blade and wiping down the deck.
At today's prices, I have a couple dollars of electricity and 0 hours winterizing it.
I would have asked for some sort of discount on that mower. Ridiculous they let those sit outside like that.
They all do it as they only have so much square footage for sales.
@@thomasgodfrey758 . Customer always gets screwed. Would be nice if they had an awning. Mine even sat outside at the Cub Cadet dealer.
i would have demanded a discount
I would honestly take it back and swap it
I have the electric zero turn Cub Cadet. Got it around 3 years ago no maintenance needed and its been a great mower. What you say is true if i let the lawn go it does take more battery to mow it. Don't know if the Ryobi is the same or not but the blades mine came with bent easily and the vibration is probably that. The electric mowers typically have a lighter blade to increase range. After they bent I put on a mulching kit with different blades the new blades did effect the range. So if you end up changing your blades with a different set it might effect the range just as an fyi.
Randy randy. If I bought a new mower online and I arrived to pick it up, then see it dirty, scratched plus no charge, I would have went in the store and said I bought a NEW mower, not this one outside. I already paid for it, so order me a new one. You're too nice a guy, but then I'm old and look at things different. Great video!
When I bought my mower from Home Depot, I told them I didn’t want one of the ones outside, so they ordered me a new one inside a pallet wrapped in thick plastic that I had to put together myself. It was delivered to my house in a huge transfer truck bolted to a pallet and unassembled .
That was how I got my 46" ($1098) MTD rider in 2005 from HD, had to pay $40 delivery charge. It was a BLACK beauty (MINT) untouched by humans! Just like I wanted it, a VIRGIN!
Just bought two of these to main both of our properties at 5 acres each. They are awesome.
8600 for a mower is insane lol. And If so I never would have to delivery of that one thats sat out in the weather for God knows how long.
Yeah really... that'd be a hard pass from me!
Me too.@@cigarsgunsandgasoline8032
I could not see paying that kind of money for any Ryobi product. For that price he could have bought a commercial grade gas mower that would last for several thousand hours.
I use a 1989 Kubota G6200 that has a 3-cylinder Diesel engine to do all of my grass cutting. Sometimes the back pasture gets about 6ft tall and I just mow it down no problem.
When loading on a trailer, you're supposed to back it on because it gets squirrelly going forward ... this is stated in the owners manual.
Bought a 42" two weeks ago for $3999. So many similar experiencess as you. The mower was left outside and was filthy, marked up by the security cable, and the stickers were peeling off. Home Depot staff didnt know how to drive it and banged it up a little loading on the trailer. It supposed to come with 3 keys but I only got one, they couldnt find them. Choked it all up to "ots hard to find good empolyees these days" and moved passed it since I m capable of cleaning it myself. Cleaned it up and removed the scuffs with some automotive rubbing compound. Peeled off the stickers and cleaned up the glue residue. Charged it up and got to mowing. The yard look great, very happy with the cut. The joy stick requires a soft touch and takes some getting used to... not sure if I like it or not, but I think I will adjuest to it. Its supposed to cover 3 acres with one charge, but realisticlally it cuts 2 acres (RYOBI needs to be up front about this). My yard is slightly less than 2 acres and it cut it all with one charge in low drive speed and low blade speed so its not really an issue for me. I have one area with a sharp incline and the mower slid down it rather than rolling down it and I lost steering control since it was sliding... the manaul warns about this, will have to mow this area with a push mower instead. With all this said the mower is a keeper for me. It was very comfortable, much quieter, and ought to last me. Don't expect to go back to a gas mower again.
Used$8,600 lawn mower made to look like brand-new first-come-first-serve buy one today🎉🎉😂😂😂😂
I have a ZT II 54" cub rider that is the next step up from yours. It has heavy duty trans and wider tires and high lift 54" deck. I installed a mulching kit for it and it works great. I have 70 hours on it and no problems to date. The transmissions on these mowers seldom need work done on them and are easy to fix if something goes wrong. When I was in my early 20s, I was a automation designer for Sundstrand, they were the manufacture and designer for the hydo transmissions that went into the first mowers. The first ones were indestructible. We actually tested our transmissions in full size John Deere tractors. The Ryobi mower you have tested will have diminished battery power storage by next season. Those batteries will cost more the the gas you saved. Don't sell your gas mowers you will need them soon. Your lawn does look great and the mower seems to be doing OK this season.
Ray
It has a 5 year warranty so no worries on the batteries.
That is great. That would make a big difference in buying preference. @@AutoAuctionRebuilds
Plus, you can store the batteries somewhere that doesn’t get crazy cold over the winter and make sure they stay between about 30% to 50% charge. They’ll work as well as they did before your stored them.
Been waiting on this one.
I bit the bullet almost 10 years ago and bought a Honda Commercial HRC-216 and I’ll get another 10 years out of this. If want the best push mower spend the extra and get a commercial Honda
I did the same, buy once cry once. Can't imagine this electric chinesium will be running in 5 years let alone 20. On the bigger side Kubota are top notch.
@@IrelandBurning Facts. That’s how I saw the purchase. It cuts 4 foot high grass that’s wet without any issues. And my neighbors constantly say my lawn looks like a golf course. And I didn’t skimp on the Stihl BR600 blower and my FS250 trimmer.
I have a 42"Cub Cadet lawn tractor with the extreme blades and mulching plate. Rarely leaves any clumps or clips that you can notice.
I got my RYOBI Zero turn for $4,000 and it is insanely good. Much better than my gas powered and the maintenance on it is literally like zero. Crazy good purchase for me!
No matter how bad I wanted that mower I would have walked away after seeing the condition of it
Exactly what I have just said, at least now I don't feel like I over reacted. If that had been where I live in Germany, or England, it would have been heavilly reduced in price.
I bought the greenworks pro zero turn, it's $3999 at Tractor Supply. 42" cut, but that's good for getting between my shrubs. I have about 2/3 acre to mow and it does that on 25-30% of the battery. Just like you, I got tired of the upkeep on the gas mower. And yes, it cuts far better than my old Simplicity tractor
Lol. The upkeep on a gas mower is an annual oil change that costs $15 and takes 15 minutes. Then you just clean the air filter every couple months. I’d much rather do that than pay EIGHT THOUSAND DOLLARS for a crappy Ryobi! Lol.
This Ryobi big boy EV mower if basically a first generation large zero turn. It’s not commercial grade, but a residential grade quality level. It’s quite expensive at this point and it will probably evolve over the next couple of years as battery tech changes and Ryobi and other vendors sort out what works and doesn’t dork on these out in the field.
I myself would have a cow dropping $8,000 for one of these mowers.
But I do Ryobi 21 inch 40v push mower that I am overall quite happy with. Had that one for 2 1/2 years now. The only thing I have done to it is change the blade.
You can buy a whole lot of gas and oil, along with other stuff with all that money...😳
I agree. Got to break down cost to justify the initial out of pocket expense.
Also, we don’t know anything about the reliability of the battery operated mowers as well as their long term maintenance costs.
I”ll stick to gas mowers much cheaper to own and operate. 😊
It would be understandable if the buyer had no experience with mechanics, but Randy does it for a living, I think this decision is just plain confusing.
@@glennfrancisheald4008 I agree!
It's not just the cost of those things, it's the maintenance. Gotta change your oil, change/clean filters, belts wear and snap a lot, carbs get gummed up, starter battery can die, have to winterize it etc.. On top of that you have to you go to the gas station and fill your gas cans up. Way more wear and maintenance parts on a gas mower, Emower, you just plug it in and done. . On top of that it's much louder. Also now, the 42" is $3999 and this mower is $4999.
Believe it or not I actually enjoyed the voice over, there are certain times when it works and this was one of them. So thank you for the electrical issues with the sound much appreciated.
Home Depot should be knocking the price down for how bad they leave product out like that.
Good job Randy, nice machine you got there, loving it.......
I'll bet some manager took it home and mowed his yard with it!
Yeah he should really return it and get a fresh one
@@dextermorgan4337Yea he should order the mower from royobi dealer on their website and not get it from home depot
Remove those guards from the deck on the cub cadet and keep them off. It makes cleaning the deck alot easier and won't trap grass and debris around the belts and pulleys. I remove those guards on all my mowers and IMO its better in the long run to just leave them off. Its not a golf cours 2 inches is way too low to be mowing your grass. 3 inches is about as low as you want to cut it. It will not only look better but its alot better for the grass.
Looking forward to see how it works out been thinking about getting one
Nice job on getting a new mower. Sweet.
Call them if you ever have any issues. They send a technician out. I just bought a 30" mower for $800. It was missing some parts and they have someone coming out 3 days after I bought it. They had the 54" for somewhere around $1,000 with all the batteries and charger, but someone got there before me and cleaned them out. Close out sale to get stock out of stores and moving to online only to these. You can see why they have sat outside to rot.
I hope you have solar, or a generator if the grid goes down Randy! Love the videos be blessed brother!
As of March 2024, they've gone down $1000. Word of advice to anyone ordering these online - call in your order from the number on their website and request they ship it directly from Ryobi, otherwise you may end up with one delivered from your local HD that's been sitting outside 24/7 for weeks/months, dirty and scuffed up from all the customers sitting in it...as well as some accessories missing.
And thank you for not blowing the clippings into the street🏍🏍
It's against the law (in most states) to blow clippings into the street!!
The Ryobi might be nice, but you forgot to mention it’s 900 a battery to replace all six batteries I think I’ll take the gas one 😂
I just bought mine for $4999 and it came with a free wagon. I got it on their website so it came to me fresh in the box.
Could've bought a lot of gas and paid someone else to do maintenance for $8500
Exactly! Then you could sit back with a tall cool one while the "boys" take care of things!!
Are you selling the Forte?
Iv had my dad's old Honda Commercial mower for 23 years now. I just clean the carb and Change the oil and blade on it.
I have had my 46" MTD "600" mower for 21yrs. It cost me $1098 +tx at HD in 2005. Never needed any engine or work (except belts occasionally). I even STILL have the original spark plugs. It starts INSTANTLY, hot or cold! I DO keep it garaged and maintain it RELIGIOUSLY!
Good comparison 😀
C,Mon I can't believe you accepted the mower in that condition seriously I would take it back home Depot got to do especially with rust on it already, for that type of money it should be perfect
A goat would starve to death in that back lawn (and mine). I could never be more pleased with mine.
Take the mulch kit off get high lift blades for the cubby you won't have that issue anymore take the belt guards off and blow off deck after every mow I have a 42" cub it cuts like a dream
What the Bluetooth do on the lawnmower
Brother has 5 acres and last year bought one of those electrics to replace his aged, inoperable
zero turn ice mower. Spent 7k on it a couple of years ago. This year he rebuilt his ice mower because the electric just can't keep up with Texas heat and budding mesquite trees.
Does that mower have a stereo? I noticed a Bluetooth push to pair button and I cant think of any other reason for Bluetooth on a mower.
As a former Home Depot garden associate, I'm appalled at the condition they let that mower out the door. We not only would have the mower and its accessories ready for you to load up, it was cleaned up and we would go through the mower's operation with you. The way Home Depot stores are designed, there is no storage on the floor, especially for riders so they do have to sit out. My management would have had a fit if I let a mower go out the door looking like that.
Interesting video sorry Randy i fell asleep but i keep watching 😅
How long does it take to fully charge the battery and how long do it stay charged before you need to charge it again
I have an electric push mower since my yard is really small. I like not having to buy gas/change oil or spark plugs, but the battery runs out of charge if the grass is too tall or wet. It sounds like a good deal if you buy spare batteries and keeping primary battery charged at all times so you don't have to wait when you're ready to use. Suggest storing batteries in conditioned (AC/Heat) space to extend their useful life, they can be expensive to replace. My battery takes about 6 hours to charge at 70-75 degrees F in a conditioned space. For reference, I bought a Kobalt brand 20" 40 volt electric push mower at Lowes 4 years ago.
How good does it stripe?
Good video
Charlie the 6.75 Briggs is a great engine give it a tune up and it'll last another 4 to 6 years I worked for Briggs and I can tell you that old 6.75 engine is damn near bullet proof most of the time for an engine that Briggs only rates to last 2 to 3 years
The key word is "old". The new "Breaks & Scrapum" use plastic cam gears and are becoming disposable engines!
Great to see you got your wife a electric Charlie-2, now they have cub cadet model exactly in 56v or 60v battery 😮. Thanks for this video 👍
The Chinese have a 120V ROBOTIC mower available for $3000. I have seen it advertised. Problem is...............DOESN'T come with batteries AND NO information about where to buy them!! I mean WTF!!
That's cool Randy 🎬👍. I might check one these out. Let us know how the battery's hold up. Salute Randy 😎✌️
Good thing you got the warranty, u gonna need it😮
I hate to say it Randy but customer service is dying if not dead 😑
I've driven alot of movers and the one thing i wish i had back them was my 3M Peltor WS Alerts, love them
When I got my 5 acre property, it was nearly fall and there were no zero turns around except for a Cub Cadet ZT-2 60.
It's been a great mower but I'd be lying if I claimed I didn't want something a little better. They're running a sale where the Ryobi electric mowers are 30% off. I think I'm going to wait a couple years for the refinements.
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Nice video
Raise your deck on your cub cadet to about 2.75-3 inches and the clumps will go away. Only reason I know this is because I have the same mower.
Randy perhaps you can minimise the clumping of the Cub Cadet by replacing the blades with the Oregon G5's an efficient mulching blade.
I remember cutting grass, and the company used Toro products. We had to grease the barrings, change blades, and change belts. Oh, and tires too. The reason of greasing barrings is because of the the certain silt sand we have down here in new Orleans, that can really wear your barrings down.
Buy a shit ton of batteries and make sure you have quick chargers. You’re going to need them.
Randy,Your fence needs painting already!
I would rather have two of the Cub Cadet's and ten gas cans, best of luck.
Battery powered devices NEED to go "mainstream" (in this Country), before they are ready for "prime time". That includes VEHICLES!!
So bought a mower that's been sitting out in the weather and your wondering why it's weathered? Have you checked to see if there is anyone in your area that is or will work on these mowers?
Did the 8.000 lawn mower come with a remote control and GPS?
Good tool Randy
I hope you asked for a hefty discount due to the condition of this thing? If not, try filing warranty claims with the manufacturer right away on all of those problems.
The only shortcomings I can think of is battery availability and cost! I'm sure they're manufacturer specific. I gotta admit,Randy you do step to the plate when it comes to cutting edge tech!
Man I’m seriously considering buying electric mowers
You have those beautiful Engwe bikes. I'm droolin' I have a Pro 2. Great bikes! Oh, nice mower. Mower electricity is delivered by lawn nomes at night for free.
The very few times I have gone to Home Depot, Ur experience does not surprise me. They always seem to think I have to do business with them, ha
There is no freeking way that this is the right channel, I would NEVER have EVER expected the Randy that I have been watching from the get go, would get so SCREWED OVER buying a mower that cost over $8,000. The thing is supposed to be NEW, not SECOND HAND, it's got scraped paintwork, rust, a charger that looks like it was left outside with the mower, the stickers peeling off, covered in dirt, all the batteries were discharged, the service was CRAP, having to wait until somebody found the keys, even though you called to say you were comming, and you still paid for it, MAN, if that had been a car at Copart, you would have walked away. I think that you should be impressed as to how the mower performs, it cost more than some of the luxury cars that you buy, but the fact that you didn't kick up a stink and demand a reduction in price, THAT is dissappointing.
You should do an update video. I'm curious to see how it's holding up for you. I just ordered a 42".
i’d like to try one of those electric mowers out!
maybe get some mulching blades for it. they seem to help with the clumps
them 18s on that white ram looks hella fresh!
I completely agree with you about the condition you got this in. Unacceptable and shame on Home Depot. Especially for what you pay.
Every mower place I've been to leaves the mowers outside. The plastic on mine was faded when I got it.
Your getting clumps on the Cub Cadet probably because you still have the factory 3-in-1 blades. Get a mulch kit which includes a mulch plug and dedicated mulching blades and gauranteed it will leave less clippings behind.
I’ve had a gas mower and made repairs,it seems better than a battery operated,I do mow that much or more,so yeah,those weedeaters will not trim both lawns and you’d have to charge the lawn mower also,so good luck buying more batteries
Same as buying batteries for cordless drills. Half the cost of a new drill including batteries!!
I'd keep both mowers and use one set at the Byars location and the other at home. It would reduce your transport requirement for the lawn equipment, plus you'd have an 'emergency backup plan' if one of the mowers were to fail.
Smart
Take the mulching kite off the Cub Cadet, it will cut better. The Ryobi is way too expensive for a normal home owner. I drove one last year at the big Equip Expo in Louisville KY last year. There is a learning curve on any zero turn. I mow about 10 yards each week. Batteries are way too expensive. Thanks for buying and trying them out for us. I use an Areins Icon X 42 inch. it does a great job and it gets in tighter places.
I was looking at these and also at the ZT1. My experience was a lot like yours, my local HD store had these things sitting outside and they looked like crap. The paint was faded, the bolts on the control panel were rusty, and the bin doors were discolored from sun. It's bad enough leaving any $8000 equipment sitting outside, but I'd be especially worried about the electronics sitting outside, since it's not even supposed to be hosed down for cleaning. I do have an electric walk behind mower, made by Greenworks, and it's been fabulous.
Dude your crazy for accepting this from Home Depot. For 8600$ we deserve better. I’d return this and purchase it at a store that cares about their customers.
From what I have seen, the 5 year warranty does not cover maintenance parts which includes the battery.
That's what I was thinking. And lithium-ion batteries have no lifespan.
I would be surprised as well, typically warranties do not cover "consumable items" like batteries. Also typically a battery is heavily influenced by the manner in which you treat them so again extended warranties on these types of items are rare. But at 8500 bucks maybe Ryobi is thinking they need to cover them in order to sell the damn things? Randy is not normally a dummy so if he believes they are covered he probably is correct?
The batteries specifically are warrantied for 5 years IF you register them within 90 days of purchase. If not, they knock it down to 3yrs or less, which seems like a rip off, is what it is.
Idk if it's just me, but this looks like a buy and return. Someone probably bought it, got frustrated with it trying to learn it, and returned it after owning it a couple months.
Don't kid yourself when you say you don't have to maintain a battery anything as there is maintenance there too. You may not have gas and oil but you still have lubrication. Batteries, especially anything Lithium can be in some ways more hazardous than gasoline. Look up Teslas on fire and you will see that some fire departments aren't equipped to handle these things and the larger the battery, the potiential of turning your house into ash is more likely, especially if you store it in your attached garage. You have to keep these machines clean and unlike gas, electric machines really can't be washed with water. There are vents all over these machines and you have to keep them clear as well as checking on the cooling fans of the machines to be sure that they are in tact and working correctly. Also, Lithium based batteries have a deterioration factor that's worse than say an internal combustion engine that can last forever if maintained correctly. Speaking of which, your lawn boy Charlie probably needs some adjustment on the valves, the top removed over the fan shroud and wash it with water. Also, as much as that engine says that you don't need to change the oil, I would recommend that you do that as well. It's really not that difficult as you can measure the appropriate amount of oil and fill the sump. The valve clearance isn't a problem either if you have a set of feeler gauges and you watch videos from other youtubers like Donyboy73, Taryl Fixes All, James Condon, Chickanic, Home Garage and Inside House Garage.
No thanks. I'm still happy with my new electric mower a year later. 5 year warranty and still NO maintenance.
Can you buff it
If you get 3 push lawn mowers you can do that whole backyard. You need to mow when it is cool.😊👍
This top model Ryobi is getting good reviews and is now "only" $5000 at Home Depot. I will probably get one when my Gas Zero turn bites the dust which is likely one more season.
You should of tried the Cub cadet electric ZT1 42E
Ultima Series™ ZT. Enjoyed the video
Should have bought the ryobi push mower, weed eater, blower, etc and use the 40 volt batteries that come with the ryobi mower. Same mower now is $4999
If you ask to speak to a manager and politely talk to them about your disappointment they often will knock a percentage off the price. They also leave BBQ's out in the weather. I've had to pick through all of them to find one that didn't have rust.
Definitely, "customer service" SUX the big one these days!
Those clumps are fertilizer for the grass to grow.👍