I've had one of these for 7 months now - and I'm still finding amazing new sounds. It's capable of producing very analogue type sounds such as Prophet 5 and Moog tones, and can also sound exactly like a PPG 2.3. You really need to get to know it before you realise just how flexible it's sound options are. I run mine through a Lexicon PCM91 reverb, a tape delay and a stereo analogue phaser. It's not the only great new synth out there, but it's definitely one of the most inspiring.
Really? You have it 7 month and you STILL find new sounds? Awsome! Normally after having a synth for 6 month i can't find new sounds anymore. Then i buy a new one. So cool. High five.
Doesn't have the grit and warmth of the real 2.3 but can do things the original couldn't. It is worthy ppg legacy instrument, some really nice demo sounds , maybe i'll add it to my PPg system.
@@cnfuzz I think that the difference in sound quality is mainly down to the original PPG's converters and output electronics. The 'M' is not identical in sound - but it's close enough for me!
@@cnfuzz Guys I think this is way more based on the Microwave than a PPG. Yes I am aware the PPG inspired the Microwave and there linked. But they were massively different. Comparing the latest Microwave to a PPG is no fair at all (It is called an M not a P)
This sounds great and you are running it dry. I can only imagine what a few judiciously applied effects would add to the sound… Cheers and love the channel.
I use an Eventide Micro Pitch pedal into a Strymon Nightsky. The dry sounds on the M are superhifi. I make fake supersaw with the micro pitch detuning.
Loved the PPG Wave. Nothing else sounded like it. If you could afford it. Gabriel and Fast loved it! Me too. Had a bunch of EII samples of it I used to play on an Oberhiem DPX-1 sample player. Awesome sounds! I know…. I’m old!
Not old....just awesome! Sadly I wasn't alive in the 80s. I'm a PPG owner myself (2.3) and have an EII and DPX-1. I got into modern wavetable synths with the Blofeld, M, and Groove Synthesis 3rd Wave. The M or 3rd wave will cover 95% of the PPG sounds with a bit of programming. Personally, I use them a lot more than the PPG simply because (few people realize this) the PPG is a bear to program. Sampling and FX also make up a lot of most recordings people remember. It is awesome to run these sounds into an EII or S900. Vladimir Salnikov's firmware update allows loading of transients like the Waveterm into the M...and allows access to the Waveterm library. In that regard it has a leg up on the 3rd wave....while it takes in samples and can turn them into wavetables, it doesn't support transients.
This synth blows my mind every time I turn it on. Can't say much more except I have no way of making my own wavetables. I would be willing to pay money to have a few custom 8bit wavetables made.
Thanks for the demo! The original set of sound demo's released for the M were really underwhelming even after considering the lack of FX's. I ended up with both an Ensoniq VFX and a Korg modwave and they have been a lot of fun together. Wavetable synths always feel so rewarding (even the Hydrasynth's wavescan oscillator mode is inspirational!). Now, I'm waiting for delivery of my Groove Synthesis 3rd Wave. If it proves to sound as good in my studio as it did at NAMM, there's a high chance it'll be replacing 3-4 of my other synths... And I'm gonna have a hard time giving up the modwave because it is SO flexible even when it's not acting as a pure wavetable synth. I do wish they'd get their known firmware bugs fixed... There are _so many_ wavetable synths both in hardware and software after you start looking around a bit. Access Virus, Blofeld, Microfreak, and Peak/Summit are all up there on a lot of lists. The "vintage" Ensoniq Transwaves synths you've already covered a fair amount are another breed. And on the software side Xfer's Serum and Ableton's Wavetable are both pretty damn powerful. All that said, seeing Waldorf re-approach their previous work like this is really nice and I'll be keeping my eyes open for one as the next wave of synth-sell-off's cycles through!
Waldorf M, though expensive, is under half the price of a 3rd Wave. It's a compact desktop unit, for my lack of space for another keyboard. Waldorf M is priced midway between 3rd Wave and Modwave. Waldorf NW-1 wavetable Euro Rack oscillator, having no Amp or Filter envelopes, just makes a continuous sound. Personally, the NW-1 sound is destroyed by a filter; loosing all high frequencies and aliasing. It's given me a taste of wavetable synthesis, making a Waldorf M a logical next step. Or alternatively get an iPad and Nave App, also from Waldorf. It's a shame not being able to try these synths out at home on sale-or-return. Hiring a demonstrator unit would help me decide.
The Waldorf M is indeed a very good synthesizer. Much better user interface than my original Microwave 1, and the same great sound. But, with all due respect, it is not the 3rd Wave. Waldorf M is $2500 for 8 voices. The 3rd Wave is $3800 for 24 voices with a full user interface + all of the other things the 3rd Wave will do.
@@MrCoov Thank you so much for joining these comments. I absolutely love your synth, the 3rd Wave, because it's a PPG, rather than a Microwave. I definitely prefer that PPG Wave sound and hope you will have a UK distributor. As you say, there's an awful lot of synth for the money: polyphony, controls, synthesis modes, user waves and touch screen. It will sound incredible in reality, as we know there are limitations in YT audio.
It’s very cool- not necessarily my cup of tea, but if I was after a modern version of their classic sound (at not an ridiculous price)- it would be a no brainer to get one. I agree with your view, analogue just produces musical sounds almost instantly , wavetable does seem to take a bit more work- but hopefully it will get more widespread usage now. FWIW, I’ve said this before ( I can’t remember what version of the company we are up to ☺️), but regardless, Waldorf is a great ,yet tiny synth company & punches waaayyyy above their weight. (...although IMHO their lack of support can also be pretty frustrating).
I still think the Virus TI2 still holds the crown for all in one synth that is 16 part multi-timbral, hundreds of voices, filters and effects galore and many synthesis types. Even Waldorf Quantum cannot do that. But I do love Waldorf sound so the M would be amazing for the analog filters missing on other Waldorf synths.
I have a Korg Wavestate, and this Waldorf sound almost exactly the same sonically . maybe that's a digital wavetable thing. I love the Wavestate. It never gets old, endless surprises.. I wish it had an analog filter though.
@InFamous Productions Korg are on a roll, offering value for money, useful features rather than novelty/gimicky sounds and incredible build quality - like their stage piano which I have/play.
Thanks for the great review. Thinking about getting this one but wondering how it compares to the Blofeld. Also thinking about the iridium core but it doesn’t have analog vca&vcf
I use a Blofeld very often, it’s my favorite synth I currently own. I am in the market for an M at the moment too. The Blofeld is really amazing for what it is but once you start digging into multi-mode and using lots of complex modulation the processor can have a hard time keeping up. I’d say the devices are kinda in different leagues outside of some of the wavetable stuff you can do on the Blofeld.
left out the pulse(+) - we used one heavily on our first record and back then it's also how we did our midi to cv. also had an orange microwave... it was okay. replaced it with NI plugs but still miss the pulse+
Sounds great, but the Groove Synthesis - 3rd Wave indeed reigns as the best modern homage to the PPG, IMO. I am using a preproduction model and it is simply superb.
Ah, I am so jealous! I really hope the final push towards shipping is going well for the team over at Groove Synthesis! I have to ask: How does the workflow compare to other synths you've used?
@@jameshagerman it's a blast! Easy, fast, intuitive. You are going to love it! I have over 100 synths. This thing is as good as it gets! And I'm not affiliated with Groove synthesis in any way, I just tried the 3rd wave at Namm and had to have one. I live nearby and they agreed to let me purchase a pre-production unit.
@@SacSynths_Jack_Z Woo! I should have spend more time demoing it at NAMM in hindsight... But I'm even more excited now! Thanks for sharing and for the reply!
Hate to say it, but I have to be honest, as an owner of the M, from what I've heard on the demos of the 3rd wave, the 3rd wave is where it's at if you're looking for that classic PPG 80's vibe. The M is a great synth, and while I got an unusually good deal on it, it could have been money torward the 3rd wave.
I really want to like Waldorf stuff but there's just something about the top end that grates on me. A lot better here with a better filter reigning it in a bit.
Yeah, its the waldorf sound. At least on blofeld, Q, iridium you you have this touch. The same with arturia. I think house sound because of house technic.
Thanks for the rich demo. Do you know if the panning is as flexible as the Blofeld? With panning, pan amount, and separate filter per right/left channel? Most of the presets land a little flat or lfo-y in terms of stereo field for me. Thx
I know you asked this a long time ago but I own both so I can answer. You can adjust the pan amount and you can set a modulation source for the panning as well. You can not have separate filters as you pretty much get the analog filter in MW1 mode or you get a digital filter into the analog filter in MW2 mode. The routing of the filters though as far as I can tell is always in series so this doesn't allow for anything like filter panning. This synth has an inherent lofi quality due to the fact that it's either 8bit in MW1 mode or 16bit in MW2 mode.
I think what's puts me off the Waldorf M, is that it can't do super smooth morphing through the wavetable, like say a cloud terrarium e352. I'd love something like a Hydrasynth, but with analogue filters. Maybe that's the Quantum, I'm not sure. Without that, it limits the synth to quite retro sounds. I feel they've underpowered this one, on the digital side. It's very lovely, but really quite limited, in the same way many vintage digital/analog hybrids are. And then, for the money, apart from newness / reliability, I'd almost prefer an AKAI SQ-80 AND a Hydrasynth Explorer together. To cover actual vintage + modern. Because there's not much very modern about this. Nice form factor though, but the screen looks pretty poor for 1.5k+ in 2022.
The M is a character piece definitely, but I wouldn’t say limited, at all…they’ve added in a Digital VCF in series with the analogue one, are about to add the XT Filter FM/Waveshaper/Downsampler digital filters, it plays back short 65K crunchy samples, and the looping envelopes go into audio rates. So it has humongous potential. Agree on the screen not looking amazing. I would also like an Ensoniq SQ80, but I’ll be satisfied by this and also a Korg DSS1 from 1986 as my main hybrids.
@@elmosexwhistle Yeah, character piece is a better description. It doesn't do everything, but what it does has a lot of personality. It's a good point about the digital filters. My XTK is one thing I do regret selling, as well as Waldorf Pulse. I didn't realise it had audio rate looping envelopes and could do sample playback. I guess it could be programmed to make a pretty gnarly percussion source too then, with the right wavetable that goes from sine, through inharmonic, to noise flavours. I think it's a great addition to a studio that has the usual other bases covered. I do wish they'd introduce silky smooth morphing through the wavetable, like the e352. That would be my ideal polysynth, 8-voice cloud terrarium. But, as for best modern hybrid ... if I had to choose just one, Novation Summit, over this, any day. It also sounds great, big, bold and warm, and is so much more versatile with great effects, 16-voices, bi-timbral and a good keyboard.
@@tdel1241 Thanks, good to know, that would bring me around to it, since I use like to use wavetables for slowly evolving sounds. I do really like how they made it four part multi-timbral, with extra audio outputs. It'd be great if they keep on improving this. Though, this would make me torn between Polybrute + Waldorf M or Groove Synthesis Third Wave. The dollar is so strong now though, and I think Third Wave prices will be raised.
Maybe a Blofeld instead? Currently prices are pretty attractive for used Blofelds (but check the encoders). It's not an inexpensive M but spending some time with it you may come close to some of those pretty sounds a Waldorf M offers. Additional note: When using the Softknobs editor you might surpass some of the "menu diving" when programming sounds for the Blofeld.
Wow it takes real skill to make the M sound bad. Impressive Best modern synth there is, limitless timbral exploration and gorgeous textures all over the place
Having 8 Dave Rossum filters and 4 part timbrality while a big plus for me does NOT justify yet another overpricing from Waldorf even if willing to buy from Thomann. I believe wave crossfading is still not possible with the current firmware?!? If you want a wavetable Korg offers a fully modern one for 1/3 the price. If you want the "best modern hybrid" then Summit is a MUCH better option IMHO; honestly not even close.
I agree, the Summit is an amazing instrument (btw ... the Access Virus too 😉). But I think to compare the Summit with the M might be difficult. The M would be nice but too expensive (so I´ll went for a Blofeld).
@@ingolf7411 for me Summit and M are actually somewhat close in voice architecture. Historically wavetable synths used large tables to "make up for" the lack of processing power needed for smooth interpolation. (The M can have that turned on or off for "vintage"/crappy IMHO flavor) Interpolation plus the 5 wave "slots" on Summit covers most of that sonic territory. It does not sound exactly like a microwave, but closer than many would guess. Given what a used one in good shape can be had for Blofeld is an amazing value. I do think Modwave has a much better interface, but if you want a keybed Blofeld is certainly nicer there than they toy keys on the Modwave.
@@klstay I guess the Modwave might sound very good. If there would have been a desktop version (and less plastic) then ... maybe ... a Korg would have been in my setup (I've started with a MS10 in 1978 😉). But I'm really happy with my Blofeld and, knock on wood, the encoders work fine and "sound design" is a pleasure and so relaxing.
The M is one of my favorite synths in my studio. The sound is really outstanding
I've had one of these for 7 months now - and I'm still finding amazing new sounds.
It's capable of producing very analogue type sounds such as Prophet 5 and Moog tones, and can also sound exactly like a PPG 2.3.
You really need to get to know it before you realise just how flexible it's sound options are.
I run mine through a Lexicon PCM91 reverb, a tape delay and a stereo analogue phaser.
It's not the only great new synth out there, but it's definitely one of the most inspiring.
Really? You have it 7 month and you STILL find new sounds?
Awsome!
Normally after having a synth for 6 month i can't find new sounds anymore.
Then i buy a new one.
So cool. High five.
@@markus6409 The "M" is a VERY deep synth - I'm getting into loading my own Wavetables!
Plus, Waldorf keep coming up with new software improvements.
Doesn't have the grit and warmth of the real 2.3 but can do things the original couldn't. It is worthy ppg legacy instrument, some really nice demo sounds , maybe i'll add it to my PPg system.
@@cnfuzz I think that the difference in sound quality is mainly down to the original PPG's converters and output electronics.
The 'M' is not identical in sound - but it's close enough for me!
@@cnfuzz Guys I think this is way more based on the Microwave than a PPG. Yes I am aware the PPG inspired the Microwave and there linked. But they were massively different. Comparing the latest Microwave to a PPG is no fair at all (It is called an M not a P)
This sounds great and you are running it dry. I can only imagine what a few judiciously applied effects would add to the sound… Cheers and love the channel.
I run mine through a Lexicon PCM 91 and an analogue stereo phase shifter - it sounds outrageous.
I use an Eventide Micro Pitch pedal into a Strymon Nightsky. The dry sounds on the M are superhifi. I make fake supersaw with the micro pitch detuning.
It looks so Waldorf! 😁
Loved the PPG Wave. Nothing else sounded like it. If you could afford it. Gabriel and Fast loved it! Me too. Had a bunch of EII samples of it I used to play on an Oberhiem DPX-1 sample player. Awesome sounds!
I know…. I’m old!
Not old....just awesome! Sadly I wasn't alive in the 80s. I'm a PPG owner myself (2.3) and have an EII and DPX-1. I got into modern wavetable synths with the Blofeld, M, and Groove Synthesis 3rd Wave. The M or 3rd wave will cover 95% of the PPG sounds with a bit of programming. Personally, I use them a lot more than the PPG simply because (few people realize this) the PPG is a bear to program. Sampling and FX also make up a lot of most recordings people remember. It is awesome to run these sounds into an EII or S900. Vladimir Salnikov's firmware update allows loading of transients like the Waveterm into the M...and allows access to the Waveterm library. In that regard it has a leg up on the 3rd wave....while it takes in samples and can turn them into wavetables, it doesn't support transients.
Hi Zach, many thanks for this great review!!! My Waldorf M gets its place next to the Iridium...Many greetings from Cologne...
This synth blows my mind every time I turn it on. Can't say much more except I have no way of making my own wavetables. I would be willing to pay money to have a few custom 8bit wavetables made.
Thanks for the demo! The original set of sound demo's released for the M were really underwhelming even after considering the lack of FX's. I ended up with both an Ensoniq VFX and a Korg modwave and they have been a lot of fun together. Wavetable synths always feel so rewarding (even the Hydrasynth's wavescan oscillator mode is inspirational!).
Now, I'm waiting for delivery of my Groove Synthesis 3rd Wave. If it proves to sound as good in my studio as it did at NAMM, there's a high chance it'll be replacing 3-4 of my other synths... And I'm gonna have a hard time giving up the modwave because it is SO flexible even when it's not acting as a pure wavetable synth. I do wish they'd get their known firmware bugs fixed...
There are _so many_ wavetable synths both in hardware and software after you start looking around a bit. Access Virus, Blofeld, Microfreak, and Peak/Summit are all up there on a lot of lists. The "vintage" Ensoniq Transwaves synths you've already covered a fair amount are another breed. And on the software side Xfer's Serum and Ableton's Wavetable are both pretty damn powerful.
All that said, seeing Waldorf re-approach their previous work like this is really nice and I'll be keeping my eyes open for one as the next wave of synth-sell-off's cycles through!
Waldorf M, though expensive, is under half the price of a 3rd Wave. It's a compact desktop unit, for my lack of space for another keyboard. Waldorf M is priced midway between 3rd Wave and Modwave. Waldorf NW-1 wavetable Euro Rack oscillator, having no Amp or Filter envelopes, just makes a continuous sound. Personally, the NW-1 sound is destroyed by a filter; loosing all high frequencies and aliasing. It's given me a taste of wavetable synthesis, making a Waldorf M a logical next step. Or alternatively get an iPad and Nave App, also from Waldorf. It's a shame not being able to try these synths out at home on sale-or-return. Hiring a demonstrator unit would help me decide.
The Waldorf M is indeed a very good synthesizer. Much better user interface than my original Microwave 1, and the same great sound. But, with all due respect, it is not the 3rd Wave. Waldorf M is $2500 for 8 voices. The 3rd Wave is $3800 for 24 voices with a full user interface + all of the other things the 3rd Wave will do.
@@MrCoov Thank you so much for joining these comments. I absolutely love your synth, the 3rd Wave, because it's a PPG, rather than a Microwave. I definitely prefer that PPG Wave sound and hope you will have a UK distributor. As you say, there's an awful lot of synth for the money: polyphony, controls, synthesis modes, user waves and touch screen. It will sound incredible in reality, as we know there are limitations in YT audio.
It’s very cool- not necessarily my cup of tea, but if I was after a modern version of their classic sound (at not an ridiculous price)- it would be a no brainer to get one. I agree with your view, analogue just produces musical sounds almost instantly , wavetable does seem to take a bit more work- but hopefully it will get more widespread usage now. FWIW, I’ve said this before ( I can’t remember what version of the company we are up to ☺️), but regardless, Waldorf is a great ,yet tiny synth company & punches waaayyyy above their weight. (...although IMHO their lack of support can also be pretty frustrating).
How do you like ther 3rd Wave from Groove Synthesis?
I still think the Virus TI2 still holds the crown for all in one synth that is 16 part multi-timbral, hundreds of voices, filters and effects galore and many synthesis types. Even Waldorf Quantum cannot do that. But I do love Waldorf sound so the M would be amazing for the analog filters missing on other Waldorf synths.
I have a Korg Wavestate, and this Waldorf sound almost exactly the same sonically . maybe that's a digital wavetable thing. I love the Wavestate. It never gets old, endless surprises.. I wish it had an analog filter though.
I tried a Waldorf Microwave XT in the 1990s at Turnkey, London. It was underwhelming. Would love to try a Korg Modwave for a few hours.
@@bilonggrisimmeri yes , me too. almost everything Korg makes is insane these days.
@InFamous Productions Korg are on a roll, offering value for money, useful features rather than novelty/gimicky sounds and incredible build quality - like their stage piano which I have/play.
No.
The wavestate isn't a wavetable synthesiser
Thanks for the great review. Thinking about getting this one but wondering how it compares to the Blofeld. Also thinking about the iridium core but it doesn’t have analog vca&vcf
I use a Blofeld very often, it’s my favorite synth I currently own. I am in the market for an M at the moment too. The Blofeld is really amazing for what it is but once you start digging into multi-mode and using lots of complex modulation the processor can have a hard time keeping up. I’d say the devices are kinda in different leagues outside of some of the wavetable stuff you can do on the Blofeld.
left out the pulse(+) - we used one heavily on our first record and back then it's also how we did our midi to cv. also had an orange microwave... it was okay. replaced it with NI plugs but still miss the pulse+
Sounds great, but the Groove Synthesis - 3rd Wave indeed reigns as the best modern homage to the PPG, IMO. I am using a preproduction model and it is simply superb.
Ah, I am so jealous! I really hope the final push towards shipping is going well for the team over at Groove Synthesis!
I have to ask: How does the workflow compare to other synths you've used?
@@jameshagerman it's a blast! Easy, fast, intuitive. You are going to love it! I have over 100 synths. This thing is as good as it gets! And I'm not affiliated with Groove synthesis in any way, I just tried the 3rd wave at Namm and had to have one. I live nearby and they agreed to let me purchase a pre-production unit.
@@SacSynths_Jack_Z Woo! I should have spend more time demoing it at NAMM in hindsight... But I'm even more excited now! Thanks for sharing and for the reply!
Hate to say it, but I have to be honest, as an owner of the M, from what I've heard on the demos of the 3rd wave, the 3rd wave is where it's at if you're looking for that classic PPG 80's vibe. The M is a great synth, and while I got an unusually good deal on it, it could have been money torward the 3rd wave.
I really want to like Waldorf stuff but there's just something about the top end that grates on me. A lot better here with a better filter reigning it in a bit.
Yeah, its the waldorf sound.
At least on blofeld, Q, iridium you you have this touch.
The same with arturia.
I think house sound because of house technic.
I love how the comments consist of people trying to justify their decision to buy/not buy this synth.
99% of the commentariat in all synth U-Toob channels. Fanboys and poo-pooers are gonna fanboy and poopoo.
Thanks for the rich demo. Do you know if the panning is as flexible as the Blofeld? With panning, pan amount, and separate filter per right/left channel? Most of the presets land a little flat or lfo-y in terms of stereo field for me. Thx
I know you asked this a long time ago but I own both so I can answer. You can adjust the pan amount and you can set a modulation source for the panning as well. You can not have separate filters as you pretty much get the analog filter in MW1 mode or you get a digital filter into the analog filter in MW2 mode. The routing of the filters though as far as I can tell is always in series so this doesn't allow for anything like filter panning. This synth has an inherent lofi quality due to the fact that it's either 8bit in MW1 mode or 16bit in MW2 mode.
@@dynasarkthanks! As a now expanded M owner, I can just run the same patch on two separate voices and pan things to death!
I think what's puts me off the Waldorf M, is that it can't do super smooth morphing through the wavetable, like say a cloud terrarium e352. I'd love something like a Hydrasynth, but with analogue filters. Maybe that's the Quantum, I'm not sure. Without that, it limits the synth to quite retro sounds. I feel they've underpowered this one, on the digital side. It's very lovely, but really quite limited, in the same way many vintage digital/analog hybrids are. And then, for the money, apart from newness / reliability, I'd almost prefer an AKAI SQ-80 AND a Hydrasynth Explorer together. To cover actual vintage + modern. Because there's not much very modern about this. Nice form factor though, but the screen looks pretty poor for 1.5k+ in 2022.
The M is a character piece definitely, but I wouldn’t say limited, at all…they’ve added in a Digital VCF in series with the analogue one, are about to add the XT Filter FM/Waveshaper/Downsampler digital filters, it plays back short 65K crunchy samples, and the looping envelopes go into audio rates. So it has humongous potential.
Agree on the screen not looking amazing. I would also like an Ensoniq SQ80, but I’ll be satisfied by this and also a Korg DSS1 from 1986 as my main hybrids.
@@elmosexwhistle Yeah, character piece is a better description. It doesn't do everything, but what it does has a lot of personality. It's a good point about the digital filters. My XTK is one thing I do regret selling, as well as Waldorf Pulse. I didn't realise it had audio rate looping envelopes and could do sample playback. I guess it could be programmed to make a pretty gnarly percussion source too then, with the right wavetable that goes from sine, through inharmonic, to noise flavours. I think it's a great addition to a studio that has the usual other bases covered. I do wish they'd introduce silky smooth morphing through the wavetable, like the e352. That would be my ideal polysynth, 8-voice cloud terrarium. But, as for best modern hybrid ... if I had to choose just one, Novation Summit, over this, any day. It also sounds great, big, bold and warm, and is so much more versatile with great effects, 16-voices, bi-timbral and a good keyboard.
Wavetable interpolation is being added in the next Firmware release, FYI.
@@tdel1241 Thanks, good to know, that would bring me around to it, since I use like to use wavetables for slowly evolving sounds. I do really like how they made it four part multi-timbral, with extra audio outputs. It'd be great if they keep on improving this. Though, this would make me torn between Polybrute + Waldorf M or Groove Synthesis Third Wave. The dollar is so strong now though, and I think Third Wave prices will be raised.
I echo your sentiments on this and maybe wavetable while sounding cool 😎 is not as popular in general
Are you the gate keeper
Isn’t that Vinz Clortho?
@@entropybentwhistle 🤣🤣🤣
Modwave sounds much more natural. This is more of an old school sound
Let’s talk about it.”Analog VCA” is redundant, and yes they had them in the 70s, and 60s.
Good synth, just too expensive for me.
Maybe a Blofeld instead? Currently prices are pretty attractive for used Blofelds (but check the encoders). It's not an inexpensive M but spending some time with it you may come close to some of those pretty sounds a Waldorf M offers. Additional note: When using the Softknobs editor you might surpass some of the "menu diving" when programming sounds for the Blofeld.
While cool and maybe it sounds good it simply doesn't have the physical presence that the XTk has.
Go to the groovesynthesis 3rd wave
Wow it takes real skill to make the M sound bad. Impressive
Best modern synth there is, limitless timbral exploration and gorgeous textures all over the place
Having 8 Dave Rossum filters and 4 part timbrality while a big plus for me does NOT justify yet another overpricing from Waldorf even if willing to buy from Thomann. I believe wave crossfading is still not possible with the current firmware?!? If you want a wavetable Korg offers a fully modern one for 1/3 the price. If you want the "best modern hybrid" then Summit is a MUCH better option IMHO; honestly not even close.
I agree, the Summit is an amazing instrument (btw ... the Access Virus too 😉). But I think to compare the Summit with the M might be difficult. The M would be nice but too expensive (so I´ll went for a Blofeld).
@@ingolf7411 for me Summit and M are actually somewhat close in voice architecture. Historically wavetable synths used large tables to "make up for" the lack of processing power needed for smooth interpolation. (The M can have that turned on or off for "vintage"/crappy IMHO flavor) Interpolation plus the 5 wave "slots" on Summit covers most of that sonic territory. It does not sound exactly like a microwave, but closer than many would guess. Given what a used one in good shape can be had for Blofeld is an amazing value. I do think Modwave has a much better interface, but if you want a keybed Blofeld is certainly nicer there than they toy keys on the Modwave.
@@klstay I guess the Modwave might sound very good. If there would have been a desktop version (and less plastic) then ... maybe ... a Korg would have been in my setup (I've started with a MS10 in 1978 😉). But I'm really happy with my Blofeld and, knock on wood, the encoders work fine and "sound design" is a pleasure and so relaxing.
Doesnt beat the original Waldorf Microwave 1 that has a huge sound
Wow, this sounds just awful!
Ok.
🙈🙉🙊
@@fortheloveofnoise Get off the internet moron.