I want to thank you for posting your instructional videos. You are a gifted and talented teacher. I am a hobbyist for 25 years. The NAWCC had field courses many years ago and I had learned a great deal of information but they have unfortunately been discontinued because of inability to get at least 8 people interested in a course locally. Again, thank you.
The good thing about being a watch/clock maker is that you can work as long as you feel like it and, after a point, do as much or as little as you like both to keep you busy and keep your wallet full.
I have always thought those clocks were such works of art and so beautiful. It is a shame that they are disappearing and you see them with the works removed and those electronic "upgrades" stuck in the hole! I love the sound of the Cathedral gongs! Keep up the great work!
What a lovely clock James and a beautiful restoration and yes I agree cleaning the movement by hand I think produces a better finish, once again many thanks. Jim from AUSTRALIA.
Great work! Gotta say, love the sound of that gong! As for oil, for any who don't understand, as I explained to someone on FB when talking about typewriter repair, a typewriter (or clock) ought to be able to basically run dry. The oil is not there to enable the operation. It is there to smooth out the operation and reduce wear. So if your clock is not able to run dry, right after reassembly, then, as I look at it, there is something else you need to fix.
That movement was so worn down that it either needed major repair or movement swap with another movement from same year! Im glad you repaired it completely like new!
14:15 Seems like a magic trick, how you got the mainspring retainers in place while the frame was assembled. 14:49 We see the removal at end of film. Amazing work. You have excellent hands!
Thank You, Yes, this is from editing of video. These are not intended as step by step instructional material. Only made as a general overview for the owner of each timepiece to see some bits and pieces of what was done. Thanks again, glad you enjoyed it.
I am hooked. I like the way your videos flow. Do the "G" and "B" indicate the good and bad sides of the worn bushing holes? The numbers indicate the hole size? Simple and very effective system. Just like your work bench. Organized and methodical. Speaks volumes of the quality of your work and the pride you take in the repairs. Thank you again.
That's a great connection to have. Thank you for preserving our past. I have been "collecting" clocks from that era and picking up tools as I come across them for about 15 years. I have several Gilberts, Sessions and a New Haven or two. Time to start restoring them.
Hello from Texas! I am learning so much from you by watching your videos. Please keep them coming! I have 4 or 5 of the old mantel clocks that I am hoping to restore myself since I am now retired! Tim
Amazing job on your videos. I’ve watched several now and subscribed. Love your attention to detail! I’d love to see more detail on some of the work - painting the case, repairing with epoxy, etc. You may have shown this in other videos, I’ve only see a handful so far, but I’m always interested in he details :). Thanks for doing these!
Nice job. Particularly impressive was fixing the missing chunk of wood on the case with epoxy. Do you make custom bushings because you don't want to maintain an inventory of stock bushings?
Old habits are tough to break. I have always made my own bushings and for some reason just keep at it. I think it also looks better to use as small of OD as possible for aesthetic looks when it comes to the originality of the movement. And yes it cuts down on inventory.
When pivot hole is elongated with an oil sink, the un-worn side of the hole is hand filed to get an even margin on the oil sink mark. If pivot hole is elongated with no oil sink hole, un-worn side of hole is hand filed until its round, judgment is used on worn pivot holes that don't have any oil sink hole to use as a guide. After filed true, they were reamed out with a reamer and new bushings made and pressed in. Some people have success drilling them out with a drill bit and then installing bushings.
Nice video as always. I see one of these or very similar on eBay fairly cheap. I was hoping to see how you repaired the case and replaced the glass. If you do one of these in future I’d love to see more detail. The one I have seen has the hour hand missing and the glass is also missing. Excellent job I assume the glass isn’t simply round and flat. How do you source a replacement.
I'm just getting into repair and have a gilbert mantel clock with worn out bushings. I may have found a source for bushings called timesavers. Would you know what the tolerances are for the pivot to bushing diameters? And how much press fit into the housing? Any resource on repair would be appreciated if you have the time to reply! Thank you. ~Steve F
In your opinion, have you found that the pivots wear quicker on spring powered clocks versus those that are weight powered or are they more or less equal?
No controlled study to determine an accurate answer, I believe it to be more associated with environmental conditions. Poor service intervals, lack of lubrication and dust contamination produce rapid wear on both types of movements.
These are not intended as how to do instructional videos, they are dependent on what the customer requests in them, customer only wanted a quick overview on this one.
Nice to see you restoring a museum piece there. That bushing "machine" is no longer for purchase! Such a shame! When they do come up for sale, they're expensive! What type (brand/model) of mainspring winder do you have?
There's some history to be learned here but in short, I am told Chauncey Jerome was the 1st person who came up with the idea to produce a brass movement that would replace the all wooden geared clock. Chauncey Jerome's idea panned out he started fabricating brass movements. One day Seth Thomas learned from Chauncey Jerome how to fabricate these movements and at one time Chauncey Jerome was working for Gilbert. I don't know, but might be why the two movements look similar.
Thank you for comment Tension springs are let down by using what is called a clock spring let down tool and releasing the ratchet Pawl or Click. This is not a step by step instructional video, it would need be several hours long to show all work, only about 30 minutes of process.
great video glad i watched im interested in knowing more about horology on wall and mantel clocks and grandfather clocks not so much on watches or jewelry . only as a hobbiy im not interested in working for anyone or going large just when i want to kinda but who knows . i try to buy from auctions or ebay old clocks that need repair or maybe design crazy or abstract clocks with good quarts movements so far i got a grandfather cleaned and running till working on cabenit glass. but i just recieved today a tabour style mantel clock of gilbert early 1900. had no name on front or on the back plate of the silver color movement, i think it was replaced already. it has a broken time spring.
At about the 15 minute mark you refer to the "chime" side. This is not a chiming clock, the side you refer to is the "strike" train. Just a slip of the tongue, I'm sure.
This is a worthless video because you don't show how to accomplish significant steps. Where did the bushings come from? Did you have to enlarge the holes in the plate to recceive the bushings? All these questions are left unaddressed.
Thank you for the comment, In this movement I fabricated custom bushings using a lathe. Holes in the plate were 1st enlarged by hand then reamed out using a reamer. Then custom made bushings were fabricated to fit the holes in the plate. Keep in mind, this is not an instructional video intended to instruct and show significant steps, only a short quick overview of some of the steps. thank you for your questions.
Thank you so much for what you are doing !. I'm watching all of your videos and learning from them. I'm so happy! .
Thank You, Glad to help where I can..
I want to thank you for posting your instructional videos. You are a gifted and talented teacher. I am a hobbyist for 25 years. The NAWCC had field courses many years ago and I had learned a great deal of information but they have unfortunately been discontinued because of inability to get at least 8 people interested in a course locally. Again, thank you.
Thanks Laurence,
These videos are too short to get it all in but I try to get a mix of the general process of what is becoming a lost art these days.
Indeed, these tutorials James are a gift to us hobbyists.
Appreciate a great deal...
@@davestelling Thanks a lot Dave.
I must say that the few seconds that the camera caught of you was very rewarding. You are a handsome son of a clock! 🙋♀️👏 Thanks Jim
Much obliged Leslie.
This ole clockmaker's past his prime but he's still ticking.
The good thing about being a watch/clock maker is that you can work as long as you feel like it and, after a point, do as much or as little as you like both to keep you busy and keep your wallet full.
Beautiful restoration
Thanks,
I tried to leave it as original as possible, they were real happy with it.
I have always thought those clocks were such works of art and so beautiful. It is a shame that they are disappearing and you see them with the works removed and those electronic "upgrades" stuck in the hole! I love the sound of the Cathedral gongs! Keep up the great work!
I agree, in the long run, its economics and reliability that's driving the electronic upgrades.
However it devalues the clock.
Damn fine work - wish there were more guys with your skill set.
I think this one got damaged from a fall, case was sure broke up but was able to repair without refinishing the whole case.
What a lovely clock James and a beautiful restoration and yes I agree cleaning the movement by hand I think produces a better finish, once again many thanks. Jim from AUSTRALIA.
Great work! Gotta say, love the sound of that gong!
As for oil, for any who don't understand, as I explained to someone on FB when talking about typewriter repair, a typewriter (or clock) ought to be able to basically run dry. The oil is not there to enable the operation. It is there to smooth out the operation and reduce wear. So if your clock is not able to run dry, right after reassembly, then, as I look at it, there is something else you need to fix.
Thanks for watching.
That movement was so worn down that it either needed major repair or movement swap with another movement from same year! Im glad you repaired it completely like new!
14:15 Seems like a magic trick, how you got the mainspring retainers in place while the frame was assembled. 14:49 We see the removal at end of film. Amazing work. You have excellent hands!
Thank You,
Yes, this is from editing of video.
These are not intended as step by step instructional material.
Only made as a general overview for the owner of each timepiece to see some bits and pieces of what was done.
Thanks again, glad you enjoyed it.
I am hooked. I like the way your videos flow. Do the "G" and "B" indicate the good and bad sides of the worn bushing holes? The numbers indicate the hole size? Simple and very effective system.
Just like your work bench. Organized and methodical. Speaks volumes of the quality of your work and the pride you take in the repairs. Thank you again.
The Historical Society I did this one for has been keeping me busy, nice people to help out.
That's a great connection to have. Thank you for preserving our past.
I have been "collecting" clocks from that era and picking up tools as I come across them for about 15 years. I have several Gilberts, Sessions and a New Haven or two. Time to start restoring them.
Hello from Texas! I am learning so much from you by watching your videos. Please keep them coming! I have 4 or 5 of the old mantel clocks that I am hoping to restore myself since I am now retired! Tim
I am sure you will do a great job!
Thanks
Amazing job on your videos. I’ve watched several now and subscribed. Love your attention to detail! I’d love to see more detail on some of the work - painting the case, repairing with epoxy, etc. You may have shown this in other videos, I’ve only see a handful so far, but I’m always interested in he details :). Thanks for doing these!
Thank You
Très belle restauration !... Very nice job!
Thank You, glad you enjoyed it
Thank you
Hope this helped
Nice job. Particularly impressive was fixing the missing chunk of wood on the case with epoxy. Do you make custom bushings because you don't want to maintain an inventory of stock bushings?
Old habits are tough to break.
I have always made my own bushings and for some reason just keep at it.
I think it also looks better to use as small of OD as possible for aesthetic looks when it comes to the originality of the movement.
And yes it cuts down on inventory.
I assume you had to drill out the old elongated pivots, how do you locate the true center before drilling? Thanks.
When pivot hole is elongated with an oil sink, the un-worn side of the hole is hand filed to get an even margin on the oil sink mark.
If pivot hole is elongated with no oil sink hole, un-worn side of hole is hand filed until its round, judgment is used on worn pivot holes that don't have any oil sink hole to use as a guide.
After filed true, they were reamed out with a reamer and new bushings made and pressed in.
Some people have success drilling them out with a drill bit and then installing bushings.
Nice video as always.
I see one of these or very similar on eBay fairly cheap.
I was hoping to see how you repaired the case and replaced the glass.
If you do one of these in future I’d love to see more detail.
The one I have seen has the hour hand missing and the glass is also missing.
Excellent job
I assume the glass isn’t simply round and flat. How do you source a replacement.
Resultado fantástico! um ótimo trabalho!
Obrigada
I'm just getting into repair and have a gilbert mantel clock with worn out bushings. I may have found a source for bushings called timesavers. Would you know what the tolerances are for the pivot to bushing diameters? And how much press fit into the housing? Any resource on repair would be appreciated if you have the time to reply! Thank you. ~Steve F
Steve,
We can discuss some resources and options.
Send me an email at: jamesmart55@hotmail.com
The dial looks very much like an E. Ingraham mantel without the adjustment slot. It must have been the style back in the day.
Lovely job!! To bad your on the other side of the pond I have an Ansonia 1881 that needs a good cleen.
That ok, I am over here in Washington State..
In your opinion, have you found that the pivots wear quicker on spring powered clocks versus those that are weight powered or are they more or less equal?
No controlled study to determine an accurate answer, I believe it to be more associated with environmental conditions.
Poor service intervals, lack of lubrication and dust contamination produce rapid wear on both types of movements.
You didn't show us any of the actual repairs cleaning, bushing selection of sizes and replace, ream and fit and glass replacement, reassembly etc.
These are not intended as how to do instructional videos, they are dependent on what the customer requests in them, customer only wanted a quick overview on this one.
Nice to see you restoring a museum piece there.
That bushing "machine" is no longer for purchase! Such a shame! When they do come up for sale, they're expensive!
What type (brand/model) of mainspring winder do you have?
Thanks for posting James. Interesting clocks. I have noticed the Seth Thomas and this brand look very much alike. Do they share suppliers?
There's some history to be learned here but in short, I am told Chauncey Jerome was the 1st person who came up with the idea to produce a brass movement that would replace the all wooden geared clock. Chauncey Jerome's idea panned out he started fabricating brass movements. One day Seth Thomas learned from Chauncey Jerome how to fabricate these movements and at one time Chauncey Jerome was working for Gilbert. I don't know, but might be why the two movements look similar.
If you don't have the spring locks, how does one release the tension on the springs?
Thank you for comment
Tension springs are let down by using what is called a clock spring let down tool and releasing the ratchet Pawl or Click.
This is not a step by step instructional video, it would need be several hours long to show all work, only about 30 minutes of process.
I’m surprised that they go without revision book
great video glad i watched im interested in knowing more about horology on wall and mantel clocks and grandfather clocks not so much on watches or jewelry . only as a hobbiy im not interested in working for anyone or going large just when i want to kinda but who knows . i try to buy from auctions or ebay old clocks that need repair or maybe design crazy or abstract clocks with good quarts movements so far i got a grandfather cleaned and running till working on cabenit glass. but i just recieved today a tabour style mantel clock of gilbert early 1900. had no name on front or on the back plate of the silver color movement, i think it was replaced already. it has a broken time spring.
I am sure you will have the Gilbert in good working order in due time.
It appears That museum is still in operation
Yes,
Good People running them.
They have a nice connected network of local Museums in the area that help each other out.
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Have a similar looking clock made by E Ingraham made in November 1906
That's great. They are a well made clock.
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At about the 15 minute mark you refer to the "chime" side. This is not a chiming clock, the side you refer to is the "strike" train. Just a slip of the tongue, I'm sure.
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These American clocks are tanks they run for so long covered in hardened gunk and worn pivots
Amazing,
They were built with loose tolerances compared to European movements and were able to tolerate a larger degree of wear and keep on ticking.
My Gilbert was made a year after
These are a well designed movement..
Lotta dirt.....so much for pre cleaning.
This is a worthless video because you don't show how to accomplish significant steps. Where did the bushings come from? Did you have to enlarge the holes in the plate to recceive the bushings? All these questions are left unaddressed.
Thank you for the comment,
In this movement I fabricated custom bushings using a lathe.
Holes in the plate were 1st enlarged by hand then reamed out using a reamer.
Then custom made bushings were fabricated to fit the holes in the plate.
Keep in mind, this is not an instructional video intended to instruct and show significant steps, only a short quick overview of some of the steps. thank you for your questions.