I love that the donor movement is a straight replacement. Now the old movement is the next donor. I enjoy watching you work. I have an old clock that keeps stopping and I’m sucking up as much information as I can 🤠
What I would give to spend a day learning from you. I’ve been enjoying your videos a lot lately and I just want to say thank you for showing how to do things that other people don’t consider leaving in their videos.
James, I love your videos. Thank you for sharing your knowledge. What is stamped on the back door is "Gongkontrolle Hettich." This is the case manufacturer from The Black Forest of Germany. I am currently working on 3 similar Junghans clocks at the same time. It's good to be able to compare them as I work on them. This video helped me a lot. My best to you.
Very, very nice work on that dial face! I was kind of surprised that the numbers and markings didn't sand off, but I guess those are stamped in and below the surface where the sand paper contacted.
I have two Junghans clocks. One identical to one you previously showed. One very similar to this one. Only mine has a more rounded top. It works and chimes beautifully … and loudly! I love my Junghans clocks! 🕰❤️🕰 Beautiful work, Mr. Martin! 👍👍👍
I agree, they are a quality movement. I have noticed many variations of the cases and dials out there as well. Not much documentation on these variations to be found. Omuseum, its an impressive building as were their movements.
Wow...seeing that resilvered dial compared to what it was was pretty special. And of course all the work to get it to that point. Thank you again and I do appreciate your videos....these are probably some of the most comprehensive clock and watch videos and your experience and knowledge shines. :)
@@jamesmartin5370 I'm sure she is. It does seem very strange to me that someone would go to the trouble of removing the hammers when they could have just moved the dial to "silent" if they didn't want to hear the chimes. I'm just starting my journey of appreciation and repair, but I love your videos. They are the best! I especially love the Junghans clocks. They seem to be very well made. What's your favorite?
@@murdoc4794 Yes they are well made. I like all of them, enjoy the variety of machine work and challenges in design innovation each individual piece brings to my benchtop.
I've only discovered your videos this week and I already love learning from them! The family story behind this beautiful piece really touched my heart and the video description is the loveliest ever! May this clock still point out QUALITY time with dear people for generations to come!
Jim- what a wonderful restoration! You are so talented and the care you have taken with our clock means more than you can know. Mom and I just finished watching the video and we got such a laugh when you showed the cut off sewing pins in the back door. Mom’s Dad ( who removed the chimes) and her Grandfather were tinkerers and either could have added the cardboard to the back. Perhaps Mr McKee knew that parts of the clock had been cobbled back together- that may be why he gifted it to my Mother in the first place. We will never know, but when Mom heard it chime on the video for the first time since she was a child I could see the delight and wonder on her face! Thank you so much!
Thank you for another informative and educational video. I just began working on clocks a few months ago and have taken all the John Tope online class work but I have already learned and used a number of your methods. I feel secure "in your classroom" that I am learning from a true master. Thank you for putting out these videos. They are a treasure for learning for all of us far-less-experienced out here.
Boy oh boy what an interesting video and James you have done such a beautiful restoration on both the movement and face, bezel and case, how fortunate you were to have an exact spare movement to replace the original one that the inexperienced butcher ruined in the first place, I hope Martha appreciates all the craftsmanship you have put into this clock to bring it back to what it once was in Germany, once again James thanks so much for sharing this fantastic video, I loved it. JIM FROM AUSTRALIA.
Thanks James, The clock spent many years sitting silent after the parts were removed, the family will now be able to enjoy it ticking away for a long time.
today I went back to my antique dealer and found a clock with the same movement in perfect shape the gold is spotless this thing cost me a fortune but it's so cool.
@@jamesmartin5370 anything with made in Germany stamped on it meets my approval I went back one last time and bought a movement with a junghans modle B-03 movement inside its wonderful but the advancing lever is not working right it just re plays that same hour which is a problem because the chimes are 2 hours behind
youtube suggested this video to me this morning, which is very timely. I just bought a little Junghans mantle clock that's in really good physical condition, but might have a corroded mainspring. It winds roughly and ticks weakly for about 12 hours, but otherwise it chimes and keeps time properly for as long as it's running. I'm going to have to look inside the mainspring barrel. I'm also uncertain if I have the original pendulum.
Hi Jim, just stumbled onto this video as I just aquired a similar Junghans clock. At 08:15 you mentioned cleaning the works "by hand". What did you mean, can you explain? I have cleaned works, with let down springs with Dawn, warm water and a toothbrush, stiff artists brush, followed by a rinsing, then another soap bath, then rinsing, then low-pressure air drying, then a warmup in a low-temp oven for 5 min. Is that what you do?? Thanks, Bob
Yes, Dawn works great, I am sure there are many other similar degreasers out there, Mineral Sprits come in handy as well, always followed with air dry and heat.
Thank you for your video Mr. Martin. I am an amateur lover of clocks, but by trade I'm an orthopedic surgeon. I think you have restored two Junghans on your program; both are similar to but neither is identical with the one I'm finding very problematic. The number on the back of mine is B11 (second half of 1911 I suppose), and I ordered it on eBay, and had it sent to my house in Florida rather than New Hampshire where the clock shop is. I had a couple of definite problems with the releases of the two striking trains. They both release, but in no way appropriately. Although I have repaired several others, I fear that if I keep bending parts of the release mechanism beyond my ability to repair them here without my lathe, parts, tools etc. I also have another problem. I have a pre-World War II German clock which strikes ships bells. I have repaired it a couple of times successfully. I tried to clean it here in Florida, but when I clean the platform whatever was in the solution I chose loosened one of the fork Jules in the platform. May I send these two items to you for repair? If so sir, would you be kind enough to send me your shipping address? My name is James Dickson MD, and you can call me at two numbers 603-253-2566, or my cell phone which is 914-275-8275. It would be with an enormous appreciation if you accept this work for me.
Another very educational repair video. First time I've seen the silvering done. Thank you. Were the last 14 minutes the top secret repair processes? LOL!
I forgot to include, if you do any silvering, it needs some type of protective film on it to keep it from tarnishing, I used a thin coat of lacquer. In the older days they were using wax along with bees wax, lacquer holds up much longer.
Hope you are able to get working one day. Vintage clocks are mechanical machines, they need cleaning and fresh oil from time to time. If the past owners had it cleaned and oiled regularly, it should be in great shape and all it may need is a good cleaning and lube.
If you don’t mind me asking, what would you recommend doing to clean these plates by hand. I am working on an A13 box regulator and the finish on the plates is perfect, just dirty.
You might need to test some cleaning solvents in small areas. Brass plates on these were final buffed to a polished finish then coated either with gold gilt, shellac, varnish or a shellac/varnish finish to prevent them from tarnishing. Without a protective finish, brass will oxidize to a dull unsightly finish in a couple of weeks. Some of the older A-13 time period movements were gold gilt. Check yours to determine what finish is on it. If its gold gilt, I have seen ultrasonic cleaners damage the thin gold gilt until that there are brass areas showing. Gold gilt, you could clean with most any solvent, just be cautious of ultrasonics. If the plates have a shellac or lacquer on them. You can use mineral spirits or turpentine on any finish with little to no risk of damage to the finish. Shellac and Lacquer will get damaged in an ultrasound. Shellac and Lacquer are alcohol based so don't use denatured alcohol unless you want to strip them off and refinish. Shellac in denatured alcohol will dissolve immediately, Lacquer in denatured alcohol will dissolve but very slowly.
Use a soft cloth while doing hand cleaning, a rough one will leave scratches. If the finish is stained, keep in mind, no amount of cleaning will remove a stain that is completely through the finish. It will either need to be left alone or stripped and refinished.
I really enjoy your videos and feel I get something out of them. I especially like the way you handle tools - you have a nice touch with tweezers. This one was especially interesting because of the dial resilvering and touching up the numbers. Does this Junghans movement have a chime correction mechanism similar to the Seth Thomas 124 for when the chime side gets out of sync with the hands? Was there anything tricky or difficult about reassembly?
Not sure of exact length. Clock has been shipped back to owner and I don't have any of those pendulums around to measure. I do have the old A 13 movement here. The pendulum is slightly shorter on the A 13 movement as compared to the one I shipped out.
@@craigcoen187 The one I have here is as follows. Pendulum rod is 3-1/4" long, pendulum bob weight is 4.6 ounces. Suspension spring and rod from top mounting pin to bottom pin where pendulum mounts, measures 5-1/8" long. Verge assembly, from top pivot pin to bottom where suspension spring runs through it, measures 3-1/4" long Back of movement reads A 13, on lower right back plate reads 160. These movements were sold with different escape wheels mounted in the same movements. To start with, mount a pendulum rod that is within about 1/4"of the bottom of the case, use a pendulum with weight within an ounce or two of 4 ounces. This should give you enough adjustment for it to keep time. The weight of the pendulum is not as critical in the time keeping, the arc of the swing has a larger factor on its time keeping ability.
@@craigcoen187 The same movements were slightly modified for different length cases. They changed the number of teeth on a couple of gears, including on escape wheel. This enabled them to use same movement with different pendulum lengths. I think the 3 digit number on lower right bottom of back case may or may not indicate suspension rod length, this is just a guess.
They are usually sent via USPS or UPS. Sometimes only the movement can be sent to reduce risk of damage to the case. You can contact me at jamesmart55@hotmail.com or phone at 509-868-2499 .
For me, if you replace the movement of a clock (or watch) then it's not your clock anymore. I know everyone is different but this wouldn't sit well with me if it were my clock.
I love that the donor movement is a straight replacement.
Now the old movement is the next donor.
I enjoy watching you work. I have an old clock that keeps stopping and I’m sucking up as much information as I can 🤠
Thanks, hope you are able to move forward and get it to operate soon..
I’m an old Fitter ant Turner and have never seen a watch makers late in action before.
Great to see! Now I want one, and the skills to use it 🤠
Thanks Davo..
Amazing finding a donor in better shape than the original.
Yes, original one had seen some rough treatment in its days.
What I would give to spend a day learning from you. I’ve been enjoying your videos a lot lately and I just want to say thank you for showing how to do things that other people don’t consider leaving in their videos.
Not a problem,
I would show more but video length gets to be an issue.
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And your video is very educational, you're a gifted teacher
Wow 🥰 great work 🥰👍👏💪
James, I love your videos. Thank you for sharing your knowledge.
What is stamped on the back door is "Gongkontrolle Hettich." This is the case manufacturer from The Black Forest of Germany.
I am currently working on 3 similar Junghans clocks at the same time. It's good to be able to compare them as I work on them.
This video helped me a lot. My best to you.
Thank You
Excellent, meticulous work. It's a pleasure to watch such a master at work.
Thank you.
That is a brilliant job well done looks very nice .
Thank You,
The family who owns this clock was happy to get it in working order again.
Very, very nice work on that dial face! I was kind of surprised that the numbers and markings didn't sand off, but I guess those are stamped in and below the surface where the sand paper contacted.
Thanks..
I have two Junghans clocks. One identical to one you previously showed. One very similar to this one. Only mine has a more rounded top. It works and chimes beautifully … and loudly! I love my Junghans clocks! 🕰❤️🕰
Beautiful work, Mr. Martin! 👍👍👍
I agree, they are a quality movement.
I have noticed many variations of the cases and dials out there as well.
Not much documentation on these variations to be found.
Omuseum, its an impressive building as were their movements.
Astounding work as always. Beautiful result.
Thanks Russ
Wow...seeing that resilvered dial compared to what it was was pretty special. And of course all the work to get it to that point. Thank you again and I do appreciate your videos....these are probably some of the most comprehensive clock and watch videos and your experience and knowledge shines. :)
Thanks
amazing work.. wonderful..I am (clock smith)...
James, another GREAT Job . Love your videos. Can't wait for the next one! I always learn so much.
Another amazing restoration! You sir have the steady hands of a brain surgeon!
Thanks George,
The owner, "Martha" is extremely excited to get this home to hear it chime again.
@@jamesmartin5370 I'm sure she is. It does seem very strange to me that someone would go to the trouble of removing the hammers when they could have just moved the dial to "silent" if they didn't want to hear the chimes. I'm just starting my journey of appreciation and repair, but I love your videos. They are the best! I especially love the Junghans clocks. They seem to be very well made. What's your favorite?
@@murdoc4794 Yes they are well made.
I like all of them, enjoy the variety of machine work and challenges in design innovation each individual piece brings to my benchtop.
I've only discovered your videos this week and I already love learning from them! The family story behind this beautiful piece really touched my heart and the video description is the loveliest ever! May this clock still point out QUALITY time with dear people for generations to come!
Thanks, I also enjoyed their family story..
Excellent restoration tutorial....a master.
Many thanks
Great job
It ended up a little longer than I usually like to have them but it shows the basics that was done.
Jim- what a wonderful restoration! You are so talented and the care you have taken with our clock means more than you can know. Mom and I just finished watching the video and we got such a laugh when you showed the cut off sewing pins in the back door. Mom’s Dad ( who removed the chimes) and her Grandfather were tinkerers and either could have added the cardboard to the back. Perhaps Mr McKee knew that parts of the clock had been cobbled back together- that may be why he gifted it to my Mother in the first place. We will never know, but when Mom heard it chime on the video for the first time since she was a child I could see the delight and wonder on her face! Thank you so much!
@@cmitchell5707 Good to hear she liked it.
These antique clocks the iPad of the time!
Very much the same, for many they were the center of the home, only way to be connected with the time schedule of the rest of the community.
Thank you for another informative and educational video. I just began working on clocks a few months ago and have
taken all the John Tope online class work but I have already learned and used a number of your methods. I feel secure
"in your classroom" that I am learning from a true master. Thank you for putting out these videos. They are a treasure
for learning for all of us far-less-experienced out here.
Thanks Randy
Boy oh boy what an interesting video and James you have done such a beautiful restoration on both the movement and face, bezel and case, how fortunate you were to have an exact spare movement to replace the original one that the inexperienced butcher ruined in the first place, I hope Martha appreciates all the craftsmanship you have put into this clock to bring it back to what it once was in Germany, once again James thanks so much for sharing this fantastic video, I loved it. JIM FROM AUSTRALIA.
Thanks James,
The clock spent many years sitting silent after the parts were removed, the family will now be able to enjoy it ticking away for a long time.
Thank You Mr Martin
No problem, hope you can use some of it.
That is wonderful! Great video and the clock looks and sounds amazing!
Thanks Bill
Great job!
today I went back to my antique dealer and found a clock with the same movement in perfect shape the gold is spotless this thing cost me a fortune but it's so cool.
These are dependable movements
@@jamesmartin5370 anything with made in Germany stamped on it meets my approval I went back one last time and bought a movement with a junghans modle B-03 movement inside its wonderful but the advancing lever is not working right it just re plays that same hour which is a problem because the chimes are 2 hours behind
youtube suggested this video to me this morning, which is very timely. I just bought a little Junghans mantle clock that's in really good physical condition, but might have a corroded mainspring. It winds roughly and ticks weakly for about 12 hours, but otherwise it chimes and keeps time properly for as long as it's running. I'm going to have to look inside the mainspring barrel. I'm also uncertain if I have the original pendulum.
Hope it all turns out for you.
The dials looks way better after in the sanding, then with the silver painting. Creates that contrast to match the case
I believe your marking on the door is Gordian Hettich & Sohn
Thank You.
I will pass the information on to the owners.
WOW!
Beautiful job. Why did you not refinish the hands? The hour hand has a scratch.
I always work to the direction of the owners.
Hi Jim, just stumbled onto this video as I just aquired a similar Junghans clock. At 08:15 you mentioned cleaning the works "by hand". What did you mean, can you explain? I have cleaned works, with let down springs with Dawn, warm water and a toothbrush, stiff artists brush, followed by a rinsing, then another soap bath, then rinsing, then low-pressure air drying, then a warmup in a low-temp oven for 5 min. Is that what you do?? Thanks, Bob
Yes,
Dawn works great, I am sure there are many other similar degreasers out there, Mineral Sprits come in handy as well, always followed with air dry and heat.
@@jamesmartin5370 Thanks for the confirmation Jim!
Wow……..
Thanks,
The history on this one was something special, glad I was able to get a running clock for her to hear again.
Thank you for your video Mr. Martin. I am an amateur lover of clocks, but by trade I'm an orthopedic surgeon. I think you have restored two Junghans on your program; both are similar to but neither is identical with the one I'm finding very problematic. The number on the back of mine is B11 (second half of 1911 I suppose), and I ordered it on eBay, and had it sent to my house in Florida rather than New Hampshire where the clock shop is. I had a couple of definite problems with the releases of the two striking trains. They both release, but in no way appropriately. Although I have repaired several others, I fear that if I keep bending parts of the release mechanism beyond my ability to repair them here without my lathe, parts, tools etc. I also have another problem. I have a pre-World War II German clock which strikes ships bells. I have repaired it a couple of times successfully. I tried to clean it here in Florida, but when I clean the platform whatever was in the solution I chose loosened one of the fork Jules in the platform. May I send these two items to you for repair? If so sir, would you be kind enough to send me your shipping address? My name is James Dickson MD, and you can call me at two numbers 603-253-2566, or my cell phone which is 914-275-8275. It would be with an enormous appreciation if you accept this work for me.
My email is: jamesmart55@hotmail.com
Another very educational repair video. First time I've seen the silvering done. Thank you.
Were the last 14 minutes the top secret repair processes? LOL!
Those 14 minutes got past me some how, I will look into it and see what can be done to clean it up.
I forgot to include, if you do any silvering, it needs some type of protective film on it to keep it from tarnishing, I used a thin coat of lacquer.
In the older days they were using wax along with bees wax, lacquer holds up much longer.
That makes sense about tarnishing. Lacquer would probably be easier. I was wondering about shellac also. Again, probably not as durable.
We have this exact model! Unfortunately it doesn't function.
Hope you are able to get working one day.
Vintage clocks are mechanical machines, they need cleaning and fresh oil from time to time.
If the past owners had it cleaned and oiled regularly, it should be in great shape and all it may need is a good cleaning and lube.
If you don’t mind me asking, what would you recommend doing to clean these plates by hand. I am working on an A13 box regulator and the finish on the plates is perfect, just dirty.
You might need to test some cleaning solvents in small areas.
Brass plates on these were final buffed to a polished finish then coated either with gold gilt, shellac, varnish or a shellac/varnish finish to prevent them from tarnishing.
Without a protective finish, brass will oxidize to a dull unsightly finish in a couple of weeks.
Some of the older A-13 time period movements were gold gilt.
Check yours to determine what finish is on it.
If its gold gilt, I have seen ultrasonic cleaners damage the thin gold gilt until that there are brass areas showing.
Gold gilt, you could clean with most any solvent, just be cautious of ultrasonics.
If the plates have a shellac or lacquer on them.
You can use mineral spirits or turpentine on any finish with little to no risk of damage to the finish.
Shellac and Lacquer will get damaged in an ultrasound.
Shellac and Lacquer are alcohol based so don't use denatured alcohol unless you want to strip them off and refinish.
Shellac in denatured alcohol will dissolve immediately, Lacquer in denatured alcohol will dissolve but very slowly.
Use a soft cloth while doing hand cleaning, a rough one will leave scratches.
If the finish is stained, keep in mind, no amount of cleaning will remove a stain that is completely through the finish.
It will either need to be left alone or stripped and refinished.
Okay thank you so much!
I really enjoy your videos and feel I get something out of them. I especially like the way you handle tools - you have a nice touch with tweezers. This one was especially interesting because of the dial resilvering and touching up the numbers. Does this Junghans movement have a chime correction mechanism similar to the Seth Thomas 124 for when the chime side gets out of sync with the hands? Was there anything tricky or difficult about reassembly?
Thanks Paul,
Yes it has a chime correction mechanism.
Reassembly went normal, in these always a lot of pivots to navigate around.
How do I send you a movement for repair?
Send me an email at: jamesmart55@hotmail.com and we can move forward from there.
I am working on the same movement. Someone has rigged the wrong pendulum spring onto it. Do you know what the correct length would be?
Not sure of exact length.
Clock has been shipped back to owner and I don't have any of those pendulums around to measure.
I do have the old A 13 movement here.
The pendulum is slightly shorter on the A 13 movement as compared to the one I shipped out.
Thank you sir. Mine is actually the A42, but it seemed similar enough to get an idea.
@@craigcoen187 The one I have here is as follows.
Pendulum rod is 3-1/4" long, pendulum bob weight is 4.6 ounces.
Suspension spring and rod from top mounting pin to bottom pin where pendulum mounts, measures 5-1/8" long.
Verge assembly, from top pivot pin to bottom where suspension spring runs through it, measures 3-1/4" long
Back of movement reads A 13, on lower right back plate reads 160.
These movements were sold with different escape wheels mounted in the same movements.
To start with, mount a pendulum rod that is within about 1/4"of the bottom of the case, use a pendulum with weight within an ounce or two of 4 ounces.
This should give you enough adjustment for it to keep time.
The weight of the pendulum is not as critical in the time keeping, the arc of the swing has a larger factor on its time keeping ability.
Thank you so much for looking into that for me! I really appreciate it. It’s hard to find info/specs on these old movements.
@@craigcoen187 The same movements were slightly modified for different length cases.
They changed the number of teeth on a couple of gears, including on escape wheel.
This enabled them to use same movement with different pendulum lengths.
I think the 3 digit number on lower right bottom of back case may or may not indicate suspension rod length, this is just a guess.
Just wondering how I would send you a clock that needs work?
They are usually sent via USPS or UPS.
Sometimes only the movement can be sent to reduce risk of damage to the case.
You can contact me at jamesmart55@hotmail.com or phone at 509-868-2499 .
Do this clockwork male 24 hours this gongs?
Yes it does.
For me, if you replace the movement of a clock (or watch) then it's not your clock anymore. I know everyone is different but this wouldn't sit well with me if it were my clock.
Understand your concern.
Unfortunately, responsible person that knew if this movement was original to the case is not around to ask.