(43) Salina, Utah. “In 1866 troubles with Indians forced us to retreat..” Tartaria Mudflood tour
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- In October 1863 Elder Orson Hyde of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints sent Peter Rasmussen, Niels C. Rasmussen, and Peter Sorenson south from the Manti area to find a location for settlement. They reported that they had found a broad valley with a creek and river and land fertile enough to sustain about thirty families on the Salt Lake meridian, some thirty miles south of Manti.
In early 1864 the scouts and some thirty families returned to the area and settled near what is now known as "South Bridge." Because of the abundant salt deposits nearby, they named the site "Salina," surveyed it into square blocks, each divided into four lots, and started to build shelters. Efforts to divert creek water to the north failed and forced them to put to the plow only land south of the creek; however, they did harvest a good crop from this. They started to build a fort and church and constructed a bridge across Salina creek.
In 1866 troubles with Indians (the Black Hawk War) forced the settlers to retreat to the Manti area. They returned in 1871, determined to stay, and organized a militia, completed the church and fort, started a school, and explored the canyon to the east, where they found anthracite coal in "almost inexhaustible quantities," various minerals, and more salt deposits.
The creek was their "stream of life"; its water was used for domestic purposes, to run sawmills, grist mills, and salt refineries, and produce some electricity as well as water farm crops. They dug ditches to permit periodic water diversion to the north of the settlement. The Sevier River was bridged in 1874 and, with three canals built between 1878 and 1908, land west of the river came under intense cultivation. During the 1870s a telegraph, regular postal service, a school, and a small library were operating. Many small mines produced coal for local use, but farming and livestock raising continued to constitute the basic economy.
The railroad reached Salina on 20 June 1891. The first train arrived six days later, bringing the mechanized age to the town of 300 people. That same year, Salina was incorporated as a town and, as the end of the rail line, soon became the shipping point between surrounding counties and points north. Small businesses and the population both mushroomed. A newspaper, the Central Utah Press, was started, and a city hall with library and an eight-room elementary schoolhouse were built. The many saloons, boarding houses, and dancehalls, however, gave the town a reputation as a "sinful place."
The first fifty years of the twentieth century saw considerable polishing of the "rough diamond." Electrical and telephone service were introduced, a bank was established, and a high school and municipal waterworks were built. In 1913 Salina was incorporated as a city and Josiah F. Martin, Jr., was elected its first mayor. During the 1920s, U.S. Highway 89 was paved through Salina, one block of Main Street was paved, and sidewalks and gutters were built on many streets shaded by trees. Streetlights were installed and a new high school was built. Salina elected the first female mayor in Utah, Miss Stena Scorup, who served from 1922 to 1924.
Population:
1880 438
1890 628
1900 847
1910 1,082
1920 1,451
1930 1,383
1940 1,616
1950 1,789
1960 1,618
1970 1,494
1980 1,992
1990 1,943
2000 2,393
2010 2,489
2019 2,612
I can’t thank you enough for this video. It answers so many questions
You are so welcome!🍻💪❤️
I have lots of family there. I have noticed everything you talk about here as well. Also, the redmond hills nearby are mysterious. Once while climbing one I found a very large brown crystal cylinder rock coming out of the dirt. I wish I knew more truth about this history. West of redmond nearby in the mountains were the japanese concentration camps during world war 2. Now most of the camps have been bulldozed.
Thanks for reaching out. I found a old film about Salina pre WW1 in 1939 of Salina I’m going to share. It sure looked lovely back then. I read about the internment camps. Interesting for sure. 🍻💪❤️
Love those wide streets. I hit paydirt with your channel.
Thanks!
Another awesome tour, bud! A lot of old stone buildings in this town. It's always so great when you can get inside the lower levels of these buildings. So cool! Thanks a lot.
Thanks brother! Been meaning to catch up on your vids btw
Great video. Thanks.
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29:52 I'm guessing the Beams were installed later to shore up the floor joist...and the bottom of the windows is now hidden behind them beams...BTW, thanx for adding another zero...LUV BEAGS 🐶
Haha 🍻 I thought I cut that out 🤣
@@streetsoftartaria 😂...LUV BEAGS 🐶
Our bro is back!
Thank you
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I live close to that area, would love to hear more about the history. Appreciate your perspective on your research.
thanks for sharing this. im from richfield and my whole family is from salina. i did not know about the history.. keep it up!!
Good news for - I’m dropping a video on Richfield soon. Pretty good stuff. Thanks for reaching out 🍻💪❤️
I love your channel...I live in SLC and started a instagram page called utahtartaria....If you ever need company while checking out a new town hit me up as Id love to come! My kid had a basketball game in Mount Pleasant....thats another town worth checking out
Hey Joel you comment didn’t show up in the regular app. It did in studio. I’ll check out your IG. Btw I did Mount Pleasant ua-cam.com/video/1r3MoE2s76g/v-deo.html 🍻💪❤️
Great find in that basement! It’s like it had been in touched since they dug the place up. 👍🏻👍🏻
The basement on that building sure does support the Mudflood theory. They decided to change the floor level and brought it down 2.5-3 feet and left the basement which originally would have been closer to 8 feet tall in order to make sense of the blocked in windows to have ever worked. 🍻💪❤️
back in 2020 when i was 13 i worked at moms cafe it was amazing the cool thing about living in salina is that you can find a job at a young age
That is nice. Loved that building really makes me wonder with all those low blocked in windows 🍻
Another cool old utah town. Best state in the USA.
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Been a while. Been waiting for new material lol
I’ve been working on a few things I’ll be uploading soon. 🍻💪❤️
@@streetsoftartaria can't wait! I went to NYC to visit home and let's just say it was a totally different experience for me. I found so much, I could have spend days looking.
@@grimakastatik I love NYC 😵😍😵💫
The 7 levels of brick is a facade, I was born in Salina- long I. The mud brick is adobe, it might help if you went across the street to the historic museum and learn about the town. The pioneers were industrialists, they would modernize the building to make them more up to date
Haha. You need to wake up. Stop believing words written in journals by liars over your own eyes in the real present world. They found YELLOW brick buildings and fixed them up PERIOD! 🤦♂️
beautiful bldgs!
I’m going to post a film about Salina shortly from 1839. The vid looks like a propaganda / instruction video to the children/grandchildren of the inheritors. Good stuff. Hope you’re well. 🍻💪❤️
@@streetsoftartaria yes sir, can't wait to see it!
23:35 Could you please explain to me how to find 33’s in names like Brigham young, herber c kimball, john Taylor, William Clayton etc
Ok so these are 3’s:
K (11th letter) KKK 11,11,11 =33
C(3)xK(11) =33 (Heber C. Kimball)
W or M is a 3 turned 90 degrees - it looks like a 3 - it symbolizes a 3.
W(3) William C(3) Clayton - 33
Alastair Crowley said “First Method. Let the Exempt Adept first train himself to think backwards by external means, as set forth here following.
(“a”) Let him learn to write backwards, with either hand.
(“b”) Let him learn to walk backwards.
(“c”) Let him constantly watch, if convenient, cinematograph films, and listen to phonograph records, reversed, and let him so accustom himself to these that they appear natural, and appreciable as a whole.
(“d”) Let him practice speaking backwards; thus for “I am He” let him say, “Eh ma I”.
(“e”) Let him learn to read backwards. In this it is difficult to avoid cheating one’s self, as an expert reader sees a sentence at a glance. Let his disciple read aloud to him backwards, slowly at first, then more quickly.
👉(“f”) Of his own ingenium, let him devise other methods.
WW (33) PHELPS
88 is the main number of the illuminati - I think it’s because cut the 8’s in half and you have a 3. It’s like “we are twice as powerful as the Freemasons”?
Brigham Young - all his brothers middle mane is Howe H (8) B (2) - 2 8’s 88? Just a thought.
Here is a freemasonry calculator - you type a name like Kennedy or Walmart or Costco and many others and it will spit out the number in 4 main cyphers. There’s a guy here on UA-cam if you type in “gematria” you will see that much of our news and sports are coded with this calculator. Cheers www.gematrinator.com/calculator/index.php
@@streetsoftartaria thanks for the info. I appreciate you taking the time to explain. These idiots who stole our collective history are so pathetic. Once we can see the spell these morons are trying to cast upon us then their voodoo is worthless. They are not of God so they can not create anything themselves, they can only invert God’s good works while trying to drag the us down to hell with them. Well I for one can see their evil magik tricks and it no longer works on me. It looks like it no longer works on you either. Keep up the good work exposing the usurpers. Love you videos.
@@kristenmore8007 thanks for your kind words! 🍻💪❤️
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When you purchase property it might be considered 'historic'. So, when you remodel you have to leave a portion of the property intact in order to maintain historic status. The laws pertaining to historic buildings may differ. That may be the reason you see parts of the building left untouched. Love your channel!
Good point 🍻💪❤️
Do we have any stories or family stories of the people who bricked in the windows above and/or below ground originally? I would love to hear about why the workers were told to do so or if they knew why even..
Thank you for your boots on the ground footage. I love it. Fascinating.
That would be a great question to ask every old person we know haha 🍻💪❤️
@@SherieAnnPeterson Hey Sherie, Check this quote out. It took place 5 years after the Mormons entered the salt lake valley in 1852!
Here’s the quote a friend found in the Journal of Discourses.
A Discourse by President Heber C. Kimball, Delivered in the Tabernacle, Great Salt Lake City, October 7th, 1852, at the General Conference.
Reported by G. D. Watt.
jod.mrm.org/1/294 (jod.mrm.org/1/294)
“In the city of Manti, half of the houses are vacant; there are houses enough empty there to accommodate fifty or a hundred families. In Iron County also there are similar advantages.
We will fill up these mountains, take up the land, and, as they used to say in the States, “become squatters,” and we will become thicker on the mountains than the crickets ever were.”
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@@streetsoftartaria Interesting. I sent an email to the City of Manti and asked who built the homes. I’m not LDS but my maternal line (great grandparents and great-2 grandparents) extends back to Joseph Smith and Brigham Young, with home they were good friends. And many of the church members kept journals or wrote memoirs. The church split after the death of Joseph Smith, with Joseph Smith’s son and mother in one and Brigham Young leading another. The family of my great-grandfather, Hyrum Murphy, was among the original settlers in the Salt Lake area. A number of years later, my great-grandfather-2, Frands Peterson and his mother, arrived and were among the Danish settlers in Manti. By the time they arrived, there wasn’t enough housing and they moved into a dugout until Frands built a log home. Hyrum and Frands were among the initial settlers in Salina. Frands built a log cabin with mud to fill in the cracks. My grandmother’s older brother, Ernest Murphy, wasn’t born until 1876, but he built many of the brick buildings/ homes in Salina. I think that most of the Utah libraries would have a copy of a book on their local history. Even the tiny town of Koosharem has a history book. In about 1940, my grandparents purchased their home from the lady who fixed grandma’s hair (in those days, the beauty operators worked in their homes). It had been built in about 1906. Some of the basement homes were built after the war and the families lived in the basement until they could build the rest of the home. I couldn’t find it on the internet when Salina got electricity. It wasn’t a Carnegie library. The Carnegie libraries in Utah are listed in Wikipedia. I enjoyed your video. Thank you for posting it.
Just consider that a “dugout” is a founded mudflooded home that needed to be “dug out”. You have to understand that every male in the early days was initiated into freemasonry or they were not welcome which is why every single town has a Masonic lodge in the middle of town. Great information. I also had ancestors who made the trek but I have to consider that they took the Masonic oath which puts the order above their wife and kids. All they had to do was keep the secret and they were rewarded with properties. 🍻
@@streetsoftartaria Interesting. My Danish great-2 called it a dugout because it was dug out of the hill/ mountain, but Manti was already established when they arrived and they didn’t have to do any digging :). I can’t think of any reason why a formal relationship between the LDS and Masons would be advantageous to the LDS church. They both do good, but the LDS church has it’s own system and there was hard, bitter feelings by the time the LDS relocated to Utah. When I was growing up, men in Salina joined the Lyons Club. According to the online site, there still isn’t a lodge in Sevier County.
GOOD
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Whatever caused this can be found in almost every small town in America. So that proves something happened that they would rather we did not know about.
I agree 100%
My guess is that those were built by Spanish/Mexican explorers and settlers. The architecture strongly suggests 1500s Mexican settlers. Should be recorded somewhere in the documentation of Mexican expansion from the 1500 to1800 time frame. The church suggests the Catholic Friars. I'll bet you'll find the original story of Salina there.
Mexicans arent spanish.
@@scienceownsimposters2142 Um... The slash mark means 'and, or'. And the ancestors of the Mexicans include the Spanish Invaders.
@@anthroariel Well said, by the way the Spaniards wrote down everything. Their archive's mention people of all colors were found in the so called New World.
I would bet there is nothing in the history of this town that would say anything about a building or ruin having been there. Cheers y’all
Your theory on Joseph smith getting murked by his boys just blew my mind. 🤯 I never considered that before! I did hear that he had ties to free mason ry and copied (or integrated) some of their symbolism into the LDS temple rituals.
If you are really interested in exploring this further please go to Amazon.com and buy the kindle version of ‘The exoneration of Emma, Joseph and Hyrum” 🤯🤯🤯. Also watch the documentary on UA-cam of “who killed Joseph smith” and you’ll be convinced. Who had the most to gain from the murder of Joseph Smith was likely the person who gained the most from his death - just logical thinking but tbh it’s not my theory. 🍻💪❤️. The book above also proves that the nauvoo temple was not a Mormon temple but was absolutely a Freemason temple. Joseph was never in to any covenant but baptism and was against secret societies
@@streetsoftartaria Awesome insight thanks so much for sharing! Will def look into those. My siblings and I left the church after being raised in it. It’s fascinating learning the history from the “outside” and not the sugar coated version the church tells.
So I’m descendant of Native Tlingit Alaskan, I don’t know much about the tribe however I do know that during the world fairs, four people were selected to attend and assist with a Native American style display. I do believe this was the Chicago world fair and possibly others. The kicker is that the native Tlingit supposedly don’t know their origins, the story as it goes is that “strange people” came from boats over the west oceans, among them were two sisters. One married and started the Haida nation, the other sister married and became the Tlingit nation. Now I don’t know if this because they genuinely don’t know who they were, or if they don’t want to tell the actual story. My great grandmother was a tribe member but I was only a child when she passed so unfortunately I’ve never been able to ask or contact anyone who even wants to talk from the Tlingit tribe. Stories are passed for hundreds and thousands of years accurately with tribes from the old world, it’s odd to me that they “dont know” these strange people.
That’s super interesting! Thanks for sharing that! Interesting that the concept of tracking your genealogy through your mother is very unique to the Israelites! You may enjoy these 5 vids which may be related to your people? 🍻💪❤️
1 ua-cam.com/video/PWjrKisTlZ4/v-deo.html
2 ua-cam.com/video/i7ANzFZoVqQ/v-deo.html
3 ua-cam.com/video/Nil_XNX8Uos/v-deo.html
4 ua-cam.com/video/9VS2xXoQDoE/v-deo.html
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@@streetsoftartaria thanks for the information as well, I'll definitely be watching those.
There is a book about the settlement of Salina. The outside stairs into the basement make it easy to store produce versus trapping through the home. The building at 12:06 was the bank when Charles Larsen was bank president. The extra stairs and doors make sense. Sometimes people like to step outside from another room, or in some of the older buildings, built before Utah became a state, it could have been for a polygamous family. I’m not LDS, but some of the information about Joseph Smith, Brigham Young, the church, and history is incorrect. There are plenty of original documents, diaries, memoirs, to know exactly what happened. The windows, although high, let light into the basement. The home at 35:45 was my grandparents’ home. It was built just after the turn of the century, pretty much the same as it is now. The basement held storage, bottle goods, and about half had the coal and heater. You’re correct. 38:15 was an LDS church. If I remember correctly, it wasn’t one of the original buildings. It’d be pretty easy to find out when it was built. It was not a Carnegie library en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Carnegie_libraries_in_Utah . I enjoyed the video. Thank you for posting it.
Here’s a quote a friend found in the Journal of Discourses:
The Mormons were Squatters. In 1852, Manti and Iron County [Cedar City area] each already had 100 ABANDONED homes only 5 YEARS after the first wave of Mormons entered the Salt Lake valley!!
Going South-Building the Temple-Murmurers
A Discourse by President Heber C. Kimball, Delivered in the Tabernacle, Great Salt Lake City, October 7th, 1852, at the General Conference.
Reported by G. D. Watt.
jod.mrm.org/1/294 (jod.mrm.org/1/294)
“In the city of Manti, half of the houses are vacant; there are houses enough empty there to accommodate fifty or a hundred families. In Iron County also there are similar advantages.
We will fill up these mountains, take up the land, and, as they used to say in the States, “become squatters,” and we will become thicker on the mountains than the crickets ever were.”
Sherie, I can see that you are older but all this took place a century before you were an adult. Consider the possibility (as I have with my own ancestors) that they were all members of freemasonry and swore an oath to never reveal that the cities were already here and in return for their obedience they would received treasures in the form of properties.
If you actually believe there were an extra hundred homes built in Cedar city and Manti while they were passing through the following year then you’ll believe anything. 🍻💪❤️
@@streetsoftartaria I don’t know the history of those cities. Although my family arrived with the initial group in Mill Creek and Provo, I haven’t researched those cities. And, Manti was already established when my family arrived. But, I know Salina and Koosharem somewhat. Many of the brick homes / buildings were built by my Grandma’s brother, Ernest Murphy. If they had found buildings, they would have thought it was a gift from God and a sign - not something to hide. If they faced the adversity of another group, it’d be in the memoirs and journals, just like with the Native Americans, again not something to hide. We have abandoned ghost towns in California so I don’t know why Utah would be any different - but then again - I know nothing about Manti and Cedar City’s initial settlement..
We only know what we would do. We do not truly know what our ancestors would have done and the true pressures they were under. We can say what they would have done, what they would speak freely of and what they would hide but it’s only theory because we don’t know them. I can tell you this - if you and I found a city in the middle of nowhere on a farmers land with beautiful buildings sticking out of the ground we would keep it a secret and try to buy the land from the farmer and then we would figure out a way to fix it up and rent them out. We would possibly say we built it “to look old”. If we were found out - the government would seize it all from us and say it was a ruin
I am thinking the fact that they used to paint signage onto the beautiful brick buildings makes me think they definitely did not put in all the tedious hard work of laying all those bricks... They treated these buildings more like they just found them and didn't care much about them. They just used them and threw some signs on them, not caring that they are defacing them....
Good insight for sure. “Easy come, easy go..” 🍻💪❤️
The annals of the ancients tell of the return of the Annunaki in the year 2022.
Any information/links on that?
@@streetsoftartaria My link is not showing up.
If that doesn’t work email me at StreetsOfTartaria@ProtonMail.Com 🍻
Type in 2022 the return of the annunaki Robert Smith.Even tho apparently the correct form is anunnaki.
Earth centered creation
cant blame the indians for being mad, they were living in these buildings and probly built them
But you dont know who the real Indians are.
More likely a group of Spanish settlers were there in the 1500s. Old maps show Mexico including Utah and several other western states. The paint (terracotta on the bottom and yellow/tan above) and architecture with arched windows and big, framed doors all, IMHO, point to an early Mexican settlement. Should be easy-ish to research from the expeditions sent out from Mexico.
Yeah but you’d have to believe that narrative. I’m not sold on the narrative at all. 🍻💪❤️
Mormon pioneers built most of the buildings in our valley, lots of historical events happened here such as the Blackhawk war and the pow camp massacre.
It's basically mud down here 😂...truth upon truth
"follow the yellow brick road" ? are they telling us something.
Yep I think there is something to that
6:00 I guess it is a positive they didn't bulldoze those buildings but geez, they made a flippin' mess of them.
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I’m one of 11, too😉
Haha crazy. 🍻💪❤️
I’m in Ut as well- It might be fun to have a meet up to discuss the mudflood theory. I have a couple of people who would probably like to join in as well. I’m brand new to this whole idea, probably just a couple of months in, and my mind is totally blown over it.
I’d love to do a meet up to discuss
it is called SA LINA
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18:40 Bloody vandals. Seriously, I expect it was a spectacular building now turned into vomit. Fair dinkum!!
I saw a photo of it when it was a high school and the ornate stuff was intact. Looked nice. No idea why they ripped it all off other than to hide some symbols possibly 🍻💪❤️
You seem to be freaked out that buildings have basements.
Why is it such a big deal?
Surely you have access to local libraries that have historical documentation, photos or even drawings of these buildings in their original form?
A quick visit to those libraries or local authorities should put your very disturbed mind at rest.😀
But the position of the basement windows are incorrect for a basement.
why does a basement even need windows, ever?
@@ozbeast6072 Er...now let me think....Hmm...this is a tricky one. Tough question. Bear with me. Ah! Here we go...for light...for ventilation. Strewth, OzBeast , what planet are you on? (Whatever it is, I bet it's a flat one...(sigh!).
@@umskiddy5234 ur taking the time to watch and comment on this video so surely u wish to understand right? because u seem to not really get it..
so go back and think a little harder k and dont skip over the implications.
if u think thats a satisfactory and realistic reason for why the builder supposedly decided to put windows underground, .. then just .. wow
@@umskiddy5234 For light?
But the windows cannot let any light in, as the internal floor is at street level.
Guess again.