Are mega churches biblical?
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- Опубліковано 17 кві 2018
- "Are mega churches biblical? Can a church ever be too big?"
Dr. Hershael York answers in Honest Answers | Episode 66
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I've participated in house-to-house before. The spirit of God was so strong!!! I've never felt anything like it.
Most mega churches aren't churches. Just businesses with the sole purpose of making money and living comfy.
Yup
I agree at a certain point.
I'd like to see your published research. That's a sweeping statement, and it means you KNOW ALL the intentions involved, have counted ALL those churches, have determined what exactly DEFINES a 'mega-church', and can show the correlation of responses from REAL PEOPLE running those churches with your definition of profit and comfort, and how THOSE 'purposes' as you call them, actually PRECLUDE any OTHER motivations, and have also CONFIRMED that with DIRECT questioning, and investigations to verify the truthfulness of those statements. Then, there is the question of time frame for your study. Were they ALWAYS so greedy and lustful, and are they still? Curious also to know of all your interviews with those congregations. You should DEFINITELY publish THOSE. SO. You must be in charge of a VERY WELL FINANCED operation, similar to a very successful author or attorney, or even an investigative reporting team or a law firm. Please show us your findings so we know what you say is not just wild superlative and generalization undergirded by ignorance and sour grapes. Could you please do that for us?
@@thegoldengamer9315 Yup Yup. Yup Yup Yup. Yup Yup Yup Yup Yup Yup Yup. Yup Yup. Yup. What an AMAZING contribution and display of intellect!! So COOL, too! You must have TREMENDOUS faith, fortitude, and moral uprightness.
It’s not the size of mega churches or even the money itself that’s bad, it’s rich pastors buying Gucci and million dollar private jets when they should be giving back to the community. That’s the whole point of churches not paying taxes, to use that money to help the poor needy etc.
No it's more than that they also excuse immoral ideology and behavior
you will know them by their fruits
When I hear “mega church” I don’t quite associate the term with the size so much as the nature of it. A Catholic church in a metroplex can have a large amount of people, but I don’t assign the term megachurch to it because most people associate the term with churches run by preachers of questionable faith and teachings who teach profit and prosperity over Jesus’ word and take the Lord’s name in vain and fooling people with false warnings of demons in places they’re not and performing false miracles. Wolves in sheeps’ clothing who host Starbucks in their premises and don’t “Give to God what belongs to God.”
Thank you for this biblical answer. Its upsetting when Christians look at a mega church and automatically think it’s of the devil because of money. If you read your Bible yourself then you can know if the “mega church” preacher is teaching you wrong according to the Bible. The Holy Spirit lives in you and He will give you that knowing when something’s wrong. If a church is broke and can’t even pay for themselves, how can they be expected to help others. It’s the “love” of money, not the money. Why is it ok for an CEO to make trillions and that’s excepted, but not God’s children. Read Proverbs 13:22..... some know how to call it in.
It's because as Christians we are betrothed to Jesus. U cannot love the things of the world and love Jesus as well. That's spiritual adultery....we are a peculiar people, a holy nation of priests...not just a few elite people who run the organisation. Read about the rich man who asked Jesus to be his disciple. Look at the example of the apostles who gave up everything to serve the kingdom of God. We are one people not 44000+ denominations and corporate branded entities. 2nd most of these mega church's use use brand names,,,,they are what they say they are...e.g destiny church is destiny church and not part of the Church even if most of the people who go there love Jesus. U cannot serve 2 masters.....3rd most people that attend these institutions have no idea about even basic Christian life, cannot prophecy or know how to work with the Holy Spirit, heal the sick or cast out demons etc
Yes--I agree. Those who reject God and his church, and despise his followers are often not very logical or factual. Easy to lay out blanket criticisms, which means they wind up being the very hypocrites they so despise. Jesus is the answer to ALL of that. Can you imagine saying you won't go to church until you find the perfect one? You'd never go! Perfection was never a requirement! Jesus accepts all sinners, and brings good out of all our sins.
I think that the modern concept of a mega-church is more like a business model rather than a church. As such, this makes it more prone to embrace false or diluted teachings. Not only that, but this model has an appeal to smaller churches that want to grow.
A lot of lost people get attracted to false gospel and human wisdom, if this so called mega churches start preaching the truth I don't think they will still be as mega as they are.
The real question is can mega churches function as a church? I would say no. Because there is much less if any accountability in a large congregation. In mega churches thousands of people just come and go and are not a part of the church. It's like a big Christian Entertainment Center. For the most part that's what they are. Church should be about meeting people's need. Entertainment is not a need. One of the greatest needs is relationships. Much easier in a smaller church.
I have been part of a large church that had to grow its facility. So seven million dollars were spent on enlarging the building. That seven million was borrowed, and thus it became a huge focus for the session to recover that money through growth. Thus, the sermons became more and more "seeker" oriented, and those of us desiring solid food were getting hungrier and hungrier. My family finally left and went to a small church where the teaching is rich and nourishing.
You make a good point. I had a similar experience, however, that 'preaching' only lasted a season, and then they returned their entire focus to the word of God. We got our expansion, but it was not without some pains and growth/insight.
Here are 2 areas Dr. Hershael York did not address : FIRST area >> 1 Corinthians 14:26 makes it clear every brother at a church meeting is to have an opportunity to contribute to the meeting -- this is not possible for a mega church. I'm not saying a mega church service is against the Scriptures. God has been and continues to be glorified in mega church services, but they don't allow for every brother to contribute -- so are mega churches effective in letting every brother contribute or not? SECOND area >> Matthew 18:15-20 makes it clear the third stage of the discipline process for a sinning unrepentant brother is to tell the entire church of the matter so the church can talk to the unrepentant brother (notice it does not fall only on church leaders -- the entire CHURCH is to be told of the matter and the entire CHURCH is to speak to the brother). Are there any mega churches that obey this command? Dr. Hershael York says what matters is obedience and effectiveness; and what we see are mega churches that are NOT EFFECTIVE in following 1 Corinthians 14 (notice verses 36-37 say what Paul is revealing about church meetings is the Lord's command) and THEY DON'T OBEY the entire teaching of Jesus about disciplining a sinning brother.
EyeToob you're right the flock is left out. People get so tired of a guy getting up in front and just giving his opinion or interpreting the Bible there is no real Fellowship. I've gone to Church's for a year and not go back and not one person calls or even knows that I'm really gone. There is no Intimacy in megachurches at all unless you're in The In Crowd. I think Christ talked about that putting the elite here you sit in this seat because you're special and tell the guy that's not special you go sit in the back you're not worth it. and I've given money and been involved with small groups volunteer so wasn't like I didn't try. And then also I've had pastors look at me when I'm volunteering and say you don't know what you're doing do you actually put me down because he's so much on his high horse that he thinks he can say and act whichever way he wants while he has his hand in my pocket I don't think it's supposed to be like that.
+EyeToob: The imperative (verbal command) in 1 Corinthians 14:26 is not "to have (something to contribute)" but, if someone has something to contribute, they are to always do so in a way that "builds up, or edifies, the assembly." Not everyone need contribute something.
Hopefully you've found a church with healthy fellowship and is open to letting the flock contribute to meetings. If you haven't, don't get discouraged. Keep seeking -- you will find a good church even if it requires moving to a new location. There is a movement of house churches that encourage New Testament meetings. You might want to look into it.
Thank you for your response. You are correct. Not everyone needs to contribute something in a church meeting.
I went to a mega church. It was very effective because it had a lot more resources and human power to meet not only the needs of the local body, but the community and globally as well. There were various places for people to get plugged in and serve. It even dealt with sinning unrepentant brother both before the whole body and in it's small group. Needs can be meet in a mega church depending on how the mega church is set up. I've also been in a small church. I think it is all about the individual's preference.
i love this please conyinue doing more and more videos about God, thank you very much!!!
All who become rich off of God are condemned unless they repent and give it all away!!! But even then God will judge their deeds and what’s in their heart which may not be worthy of forgiveness! This life is not our reward! This life is our test! A test of our worthiness for eternal life!
And the verdict for us is we are not worthy of our own,.. thus, needing Salvation from another,..
Great question.
I attend a mega church that is wildly popular. They have world class music ministry and top notch engaged pastors. Their approach is to encourage and foster 'small group' bible study approach.
Coming from a small church I struggle with the mega church and the lack of intimacy we enjoyed at the small church.
Graph Guy get out while you still can
Why did you leave the small church?
World class music?!?!??? Wildly popular?!?
Wow, how far you have fallen? Run for your life
Thumbs up for the teaching.
the way is NARROW and HARD and there are FEW that finds it, the sealed church is a spiritual church, called the church of PHILADELPHIA, and no the churches has kicked out the saviour and the gospels and are now preaching vain philosophies. or as we say, their own thing.
Love it! Great job!
I think there is a disconnect in the comments on how we define "mega churches". To me, it's just a church that has grown above a certain threshold, however that number of attendees is vague. Many here associate the term with televangelists like Olsteen. However, that packages more in the term than is warranted. This video is right on: obedience is the key factor, not size.
right. agree
It's much easier to be effective and obedient in a smaller congregation. Churches should grow like a tree Branching out and splitting out. That way every church can grow yet stay small and effective. Also mega churches tend to feed the ego and the salary of the pastor. Hey look at me. Just like we have the United States of America, in which the country as a whole is divided up into individual states. So as to be more effective and more accountable to the people. The founders were very wise to do this. Separate yet United.
1:14... I have never heard this before, and it doesn't make sense. Both the Jewish leadership and Romans were trying to squash Christianity from the get-go. When exactly was the early church at liberty to hold regular meetings in the temple to the point they overflowed it's capacity?
With regard to size versus effectivity, the problem is too many people say these are the same thing. How do you get more people in the doors? By telling them what they want to hear, not necessarily what is Biblical. The early churches went off on all kinds of tangents in their teaching. That's why we have half of the NT... Paul and others trying to keep everything on the straight and narrow. The problem is these days we don't have Paul running around. When the teachings go sideways there's either no one to put it in check, or no one wants to because the errant teaching is bringing in more people, which is incorrectly viewed as being "effective".
A question for the group. So, if a church starts out small (preaching the gospel) and it begins to grow, at what numerical point would you start locking the doors and not allowing anymore people in?
I’m not a pastor but I have the same question. I think you’d stop when you have truly unbiblical people start to come in
@@zoecoutu1741 I went to a church that was medium sized when I started going. When they started to grow more, they split off into a subgroup and planted a new church elsewhere with some of the old congregation that were cool with moving to the new location. That way, they could reach more people at the new location and still grow at the old location too without getting too big.
I think Jesus would be appauled by the ginormous buildings we call "megachurches" which sit idle during the week, while people go homeless and sleep in the street.
Takes nothing into account of the differences between the Jerusalem church and those among the diaspora. Were the 3000 of Pentecost residents of Jerusalem or visitors from all over? How long would they have remained in Jerusalem while on annual pilgrimage? In talking about Church organisation, no mention is made of the plurality of leadership in early church. How can the biblical model be superimposed on the current church without considering the differences.
Those are good questions, the answering of which may drastically impact the scope of this short video, don't you think? Your questions could be answered and expanded by some fun research and perhaps a video / book of your own. You have the mind for it. For some resources, consider Philip Schaff's work.
Heaven is one big mega church with singing and dancing. It's all worship to our Lord. 24/7 forever.
He is correct. But please remember that the invisible (i.e. true) church is a small subset of the visible church. It's likely in any church that a significant number of their members are not genuine believers. But God knows who are his and every believer should carefully evaluate their faith to see if it is genuine - the bible provides instruction on how to do this.
This is a shallow answer to a relevant question for modern, American evangelicals. Obedience and effectiveness? That's the Biblical standard? If so, how do we determine obedience and effectiveness? I would have thought checking in with Paul might be useful for his answer. Paul's view of the church raises serious challenges to the modern mega-church movement in the States. I would say that an ideal Pauline church cannot be a mega-church. I should add: "mega-church" is more than just an attendance figure. The word connotes a multi-faceted cultural phenomenon.
I think that's where the effectiveness comes in.
@@jedlaelmalapote6000 What IS effectiveness? Why would we use that word in a conversation about the church?
Size matters when it comes to church. Whenever a church is not able to accomodate the active participation and contribution of each member, it has gotten too big. Mega churches just have one part of the body speaking to the rest of spectators in the body. Thats not an effective dusciple making, ministry equipping church
We dont want our children to be in a classroom with more than 30 people because it would be ineffective, but a mega church with thousands is considered a success??
Spot on
Good
It's much harder to shepherd and to make disciples out of 5,000 than it is of 20. Get over 100 and fellowship is difficult and accountability is out the window.
I believe all preachers should live a minimalist life just as Jesus and the disciples did!
Paul commands that we should not muzzle the ox when he is threshing out the grain, and that elders who preach and teach well are deserving of a double honor. So your opinion is not upheld in scripture.
In the process of becoming ordained, what are some mistakes you've seen as people go through the process?
Large gatherings of Christians are great but no one involved with the mega church including the preacher should become rich! Making money using God is WRONG! AND it is most likely a sin!!!
Yes mega-churches are biblical. They are rebuked by the Lord in Revelations 3:1-6. The Lord’s warning is clear and dreadful: “I know thy works, that thou hast a name that thou livest, and art dead. Be watchful, and strengthen the things which remain, that are ready to die: for I have not found thy works perfect before God”.
I think you are mistaken in your use of the word 'church' because the 'church' in Jerusalem means all the Christians in Jerusalem. I think what's unbiblical is this idea that we have lots of different 'churches' in one city. There is only one church of Christ, that is the followers of Christ. I think Christians need to get away from this kind of tribal affiliation to certain buildings, denominations and preachers and start fellowshipping with each other.
You are sooo spot on brother. All this clever study leads nowhere because it is a house built on sand! And that is the misinterpretation of EKKLESSIA/QAHAL.
The biblical curch did not gather weekly to listen to someone deliver a monologue - that came later when the second sophistic infiltrated the church - any church that revolves around a professional "christian" delivering a speech is unbiblical.
Dr. York... Love the discussion, diving back into the scriptural prescriptions given to us, re organizing TheChurch and accomplishing its task. Question: Drilling into your comment re the (multiple) 'churches' (even using the term 'plants', I believe)... 1. Are you really saying those are 'churches'? Or really just parts of TheChurch at Jerusalem? (Think of our American 'small-groups' -- we don't generally call them 'churches' per se. Right?). 2. More to the point: Do you see scriptural evidence of those 'churches' containing requisite leadership organization? That is, each contain (dare I ask, autonomous) a plurality of Elders? Plurality of Deacons?
No your cemetery school is wrong, don't you realize it was during the Roman empire era? Furthermore Judaism was in full effect, Look at John 6 verses 61/62 and 66. Your right about size, the workers for Christ Jesus are few regardless of the size of the church and the believers are less.
Please talk me
Hallelujah amen
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I think his explanation of mega churches is wrong. The people that were gathered in Jerusalem were gathered there from many different parts of the world for the annual feast of Pentecost. It's like Muslims today gather in Meca for their annual pilgrimage. These people, when they were born again, hung around a little while to learn about this new faith before eventually having to return to their own cities and countries. They weren't Jerusalem dwellers. Good estimates of the entire population of Jerusalem put it at maybe 25,000 people. This was the headquarters of the Pharisees and the Jewish religion. As big as Pentecost was, everybody, didn't become a follower of Christ. We see that later, the Jewish leaders beat up Peter and John and told them not to preach Jesus (Acts 4-6). There's any indication that the Christians took over the temple or were allowed to use it to preach Christ. The facts he presents are not logical.
Good point about the dynamics of Pentecost. It doesn't seem that there is any indication of Christians taking over the temple per say, in what he was saying. The temple was HUGE. Multiple gates. Multiple very, very large area for meeting, inside and outside. There were many areas where preaching could and did take place on a large scale. Eyewitness gospel accounts tell of Jesus preaching in the temple daily. [As well as it "being His tradition to read at the synagogue (public gathering)" when He was there.] Peter and the others following the same example of preaching at the temple as well. They could not stop the preaching of the Gospel.
No ! Many of it like the Apostle Paul wrote are based on the customs and the traditions of men. The True Gospel of Jesus Christ is not based on the things which do appear ? Which mean's that it is not made with men's hands. It is Spiritual and not physical.
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A lot of 'i think' which is concerning... the multi site comment was just not accurate. Multi site today is one pastor governing many flocks of completely different geographical areas. the church there had more than one pastor / shepherd / leader going around breaking bread... You cannot create wiggle room then account for it. You have to see it in scripture then account for it.
Perhaps in your experience that is true but I can tell you that I am a proud member of what a lot of people call "ground zero" and we do have a senior pastor but every loaction has their own pastor, worship team, staff..etc...
What in the world are all these Catholic, Messianic Jew, Mormon, etc etc is the only way comments? If you have a proper understanding of who Jesus Christ is and believe it, you are saved! John speaks of this, Paul speaks of this, and Jesus Himself speaks of this. Do not let these tribalists fool you.
READ THE XXIX CATHOLIC CANON AND YOU WILL SEE WHY THE CHURCH TODAY KEEPS SUNDAY HOLY INSTEAD OF THE 7TH DAY SABBATH
I think the more pertinent question is:
Are small churches biblical??
@@malorie8557 I believe its more than that. My question was sarcastic.
If ekklessia means "call out ones" then it is not merely about discussing the matters of the Lord.... But rather it is a corporate gathering where disciples of Christ ascend to the seat of where we are seated with Christ and from that seat legislating what the Lord is doing here on the Earth.
Koinonitis lol. That’s was funny
Romans 14 issue
First of all "mega" is relative. That aside the "church" in Acts (especially on the day of Pentecost) needs to be viewed as universal and not local - especially as 'local" is seen today. It would be impossible to have what is seen today in a local "mega" church. They didn't have facilities until Constantine. They met in homes - that at most would hold 8-10 people. So the church at Corinth for example - may have had 200 people but they met in various homes. The only biblical model we have is the book of Acts. Here we clearly see that as a church grew they multiplied outward - not inward. In fact the modern (post-modern) "mega" church is a phenomena that is only about 60-70 years old - simply because banks didn't start giving loans to churches until the 50's. A local church to take out a loan is not only presumptuous but unbiblical. The huge amounts of money spent on facilities is mind blowing. Is that really what God wants me to give to? What of the huge salaries of the "CEO's" of these mega churches? It is all out of whack - and far from what the Holy Spirit gave us in the word reading a "local church".
What is the purpose and function of the local church? The professor mentions often here the Great Commission. Evangelism is the individual witnessing of Jesus Christ. The local church doesn't run around like a pack of dogs witnessing - it is individuals. The local church is the educational program of believers. As believers we are to grow. That growth comes from learning what God says in his word and doing it. We have trials and struggles and stress - and through obedience of the word we learn how to respond favorably to the issues of life.
The mega church (again relative) is man centered - and entertainment focused. Just look at the ministry of the word - is the pastor-teacher expositionally teaching the text? Do we even know what that is in our day?
You are right my brother. The Lord has been blessing many of us with understading regarding the true nature of His Ekklessia/Qahal and the false deity that is the "Church". The Church serves itself, on the back of God's peoples labour; its just like ancient Egypt!!
But its about time. Time to go out of her once again to where God leads us. I do not know yet how or when or where to but we have to be VERY vigilant from now on. Dont miss his call. God bless you
Anyone who is a "follower of the way of Yashua" is part of the assembly of God the Fathers church it doesn't matter where it's at a building is just a building or whether its one two or five thousand people it's about having fellowship for that time with other followers of the way or people of "Qodeshim" and the rest of your time should be out spreading the Gospel and being "Fishers of men" as instructed by our Lord Jesus Christ. Stop getting in to pointless debates with one another you're being distracted go out and Evangelize!! Help and save the lost people of the world from eternal hell and torment!!....God bless you all and peace be with you..
Most churchs are not equipped for damaged people. Ironically these mega churchs do well.
My last church had 2 fornicator woman working for Jezebel. One was a newly divorced older gal shacked up with a newly divorced man from the music praise group. The other was a divorced pretty mom with 3 kids Shacked up with divorced man. the older gal tried suicide and asked her boy freind to inject poison into her. She died of cancer.
The young mom quit church and kicked the guy out for a few more suckers to ruin them too. That church folded.
I knew both these gals personaly and was pursued aggressively by both. It was the devils best trick.
The pasture didn't have a clue and all he did was smile to get approval.
Ecclesia in Scripture translate to a group of people! The problem with any church is you're not being taught what you need to know and thus are being mislead! What was Yeshua and his disciples doing while on this planet? They were following the Appointed Times of Lev. 23, the Sabbatical & Jubilee years of Lev. 25 plus the other Commandments found in Exodus!
Joseph and Mary when she was really close to giving birth to the Messiah were up in Bethlehem why? They were getting ready to celebrate the fall Feasts which include, Atonement, Sukkot and the 8th day all found in Lev. 23.
They couldn't find any places to stay in Jerusalem and went to Bethlehem and had to stay in a barn (so to speak) because all of Israel had come to Jerusalem and the surrounding towns to celebrate the Feasts because they are Commanded for all generations and forever!
Ah, another Judaizer. That's convenient of you to cherry pick and twist it your way. You're in the New Testament too, but not in a flattering way. LoL
IF JESUS ROSE ON THE 3RD DAY THEN THE 3RD NIGHT WOULD HAVE ALREADY PASSED, THEREFORE MAKING A SUNDAY MORNING RESURRECTION IMPOSSIBLE
Good illustration. God added to the Church daily. He's the same yesterday today, and forever. Mega churches are no sinful in themselves. Moses had the first Mega church: the tribes of Israel. If a church stays small, then that church needs help because something is wrong their manna. They have not turned their water into wine through their obedience.
On the other hand you can have clusters of the same small Church in different areas. It's about how God wants to strategically placed them.
Nah I was all One Church even if they met in different places.
Narrow is the gate and few find it!!! Size of a man made church building makes no difference!!! JESUS DESTROYED THE MAN MADE CHURCH THAT WAS BUILT WITH HANDS!!!! tHE KINGDOM OF GOD IS WITHIN!! AND JESUS SAID FOLLOW ME....MY SHEEP KNOW MY VOICE,A STRANGER THEY WILL NOT FOLLOW!!! JESUS IS THE TEACHER!!! NOT SOME WORLDLY MAN!!
Jesus man... see what I did there yeah yeah see what was happening here 🙃🙃🙃🙃
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In these comments I see many smart people saying stupid things we can not forget that Christ is the antidote to the snake bite and those who accept it are the church mind you Ave to know that is kingdom is based on protection of the innocent selfe sacrifice to those who are less than us and total forgiveness if you are proud and sacrifice others for yourself and so on you are serving the other guy don't become like those people in the temple of stone blindid by there intellect
The vid is on point. Good job. As for those who doubts the church just because the pastor has a gucci, have you read your bible? Abraham, isaac, jacob, joseph the dreamer, job, david, solomon, etc. These are just examples of wealthy followers of God and people in their time envy them. You see, God promises his people to be prosperous and that includes our pastors and if they are "corrupt" as you put it then don't worry because they'll either answer for it here or in hell because God sees and knows what we are truly after. Simple as that.
You are mistaken. JESUS promised that in this life we would be persecuted and hated for his name and all his disciples at the time would be put to death. You are cherry picking OT biblical patriarchs who had a larger purpose than just you and me. Love not the things in the world. If any man love the world the love of the father is not in him. Do you love your Gucci purse?
MATTHEW 12:38-40
THE SIGN OF JONAS EXPOSES THE MARK OF THE BEAST
Many would come in the last day saying I am Christ so in that sense these ponies are biblical
No, when Jesus went to pray ihe went to the house of God.
When Peter and others saw Jesus with Moses and Abraham, no one ever made an Idol of Moses nor Abraham to be placed into the house of God and was never a practice. Nor Jesus instructed it to be done.
It was a religious prohibition from God.
Hence, Jesus said I did not come to abrogate the law (Commandments of God given to Moses). Nor the prophets.
Amen.
No they are not
Few of them are
It's going to be a mega church in heaven.... get used to it!
That's not the same at all... There won't be the need for the 'function' of the earthly church in heaven.
Jenny Herkommer bollocks
Is god fake
No. In so many ways, you could not even ask that if He did not exist.
Don't be so quick to bash all Mega Churches especially when Jesus fed thousands in one setting!
I think his explanation of mega churches is wrong. The people that were gathered in Jerusalem were gathered there from many different parts of the world for the annual feast of Pentecost. It's like Muslims today gather in Meca for their annual pilgrimage. These people, when they were born again, hung around a little while to learn about this new faith before eventually having to return to their own cities and countries. They weren't Jerusalem dwellers. Good estimates of the entire population of Jerusalem put it at maybe 25,000 people. This was the headquarters of the Pharisees and the Jewish religion. As big as Pentecost was, everybody, didn't become a follower of Christ. We see that later, the Jewish leaders beat up Peter and John and told them not to preach Jesus (Acts 4-6). There's any indication that the Christians took over the temple or were allowed to use it to preach Christ. The facts he presents are not logical.
enslavement does not have an appeal
The nation of Muhammad in the Bible
Genesis: 17v10: This is my covenant, which you (Abraham) will keep between me and you, and your posterity after you:
every male among you will be circumcised.
11 / You will circumcise yourself, and it will be a sign of an alliance between me and you.
Genesis 17v20: And to Ishmael I answered you, and I will bless him, and make him fruitful, and multiply him to
infinity.
Genesis 20v13 / I will make a nation of the son of your seventy, for he is your posterity.
Isaiah 29v12 / Or as a book (Quran) which is given to a man (Muhammad) who can not read, saying: Lis (first chapter
of the Quran) and who answers: I can not read.
Isaiah 42v11 / Let the desert and its cities (Mekka and Medina) raise their voices, and the villages occupied by
Kedar (second son of Ishmael) Let the inhabitants of the rock tremble with joy, let the crests of joy
shout forth from the top of the mountains!
12 "Let the glory be made known to the LORD, and let the islands show his praise!
Matthew 21:43 Therefore, I say to you, the kingdom of God will be taken from you, and it will be given to a nation
(the Arabs) that will bring forth its fruits.
John 4: 21 Woman, saith Jesus to him, believe me, the hour is coming, or it will be neither on this mountain nor in
Jerusalem, that you worship the father.
John 16: 7 / Nevertheless, I tell you the truth, it is expedient for you that I go away, for if I do not go away,
the comforter (Muhammad) will not come to you, but if I go away, I will I will send it.
Mohamed Sahloul That is blasphemy. The comforter Jesus speaks of is not Muhammad, it is the Holy Spirit! You are guilty of reading your own views into the text of Holy Scripture.
@@JasonStephens7 Blasphemy is to divine a creature of God such as the cow among Hindu statues among Buddhists, a man among Christians ... etc. For God is alone and does not have partners such as the son (man); Holy Spirit is only an angel, read the Quran, it will enlighten you, and you will die in misguidance.
@@JasonStephens7 Galatians 1v9 / We said it before, and I repeat it at this time if someone (Muhammad) announces another Injile (Quran) than the one you have received, let him be anathema.
Mohamed Sahloul The testimony of the Holy Scriptures is plain that Jesus is God in flesh (the Son) and the Holy Spirit is also God who speaks, guides, and dwells in believers.
Do you not claim that the Scriptures were once the Word of God that became corrupted by man? If the Bible was divine revelation from God but became corrupted as you believe, how can you say or believe the Quran could not also be corrupted? I believe God preserves His Word and that it is trustworthy and true. The testimony from the Scriptures about Jesus is truth.
@@JasonStephens7 Sir, it is true that God sent the Injile to Jesus who is Holy and Sacred among the Muslims But the Jews have falsified and rigged it like Paul who is the inventor of Christianity not Jesus. We believe in the holiness of Mary and that Jesus is a prophet and messenger and servant of God like Abraham, Moses and Mohamed.Jesus in the Bible never that he is God or his son.He said 83 times that he is the son of man.The Israelis called the good ones and the righteous men by sons of God.They called Isaiah, David, Jacob ... etc. of the sons of God.Jesus said that you know the good trees by their fruits.The Bible has many errors and contradictions; scholars have counted more than 5000.I will quote you some: The Bible says that the snake lives only from the earth.The rabbit is ruminant.The moon emits light.The earth is flat to supremes and put on columns.A verse, God created man before the animal and in another animal badly before the man.In one verse is sent to the Israelis.In another for all the nations.If Jesus is god, why he died for three days.Who ruled the world? ... I have a lot of falsehood; God is perfect, omniscient, omnipotent ... For Jesus does not know the day or the hour of the last day.He is beaten by Jacob, He is struck by the two criminals during cruci-fiction, bitten by flies; shouted: why did you leave me? .... If you find a small mistake or contradiction in the Quran, you will have 1000 dollars. May God guide us to the right path.
The cult belief in an Iron Age biblical text for the lightly educated
The church is one
The church is forever
The church is visible
The church is hierarchical
The church is the kingdom of God on earth
The church is Truth
The church is our teacher
The church is the bride of Christ
The church is the mystical body of Christ
The church is dynastic
The church is holy
The church is apostolic
The church is a mystery
The church is Catholic
The one True Church is
The Roman Catholic Church
All is fine till there is a roman paganism at the very bottom 😩
Dan Nunez Jesus said
“Go convert the world.”
So that’s what we do.
Yes even the pagans.
You’re welcome
@@PInk77W1 the Roman Catholicism is paganism, 7 works based sacraments that only guarantee you purgatory at best lol go worship Mary some more.
Kevin Stuart pagan means many Gods
Catholics believe in one GOD.
Jesus loves and honors Mary more than all Catholics combined.
Sacraments are the works of God
We participate in Gods work.