10 CRAZY Things D&D Problem Players Do ft.

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  • @lootgoblinmarketplace
    @lootgoblinmarketplace Рік тому +38

    Thanks for having me, loved making these videos with you!

    • @twistedpinttavern
      @twistedpinttavern  Рік тому +6

      Likewise, had a blast!

    • @connor_draco_tempest2891
      @connor_draco_tempest2891 Рік тому +3

      hey Hope we get to see ya and Zyl more often and It's fun to see ya here

    • @apocalypso3427
      @apocalypso3427 Рік тому +1

      Next round is on me, Loot Goblin! Hope to see you filling a seat at the tavern more often. There's so many more stories to be told

  • @Queue3612
    @Queue3612 Рік тому +14

    "I need a DM that can handle me" is like planting a giant red flag and standing prowdly next to it.

  • @dragonxswords114
    @dragonxswords114 Рік тому +21

    I ran a super old wizard once, he basically spent his entire life cooped up in a grand library studing magical concepts, but has 0 practical skills.
    But that knowledge showed through because his subclass was the UA lore mastery. Which lets you change the damage types of your spells, and even the type of saving throw. You basically are making your own modified spells

    • @twistedpinttavern
      @twistedpinttavern  Рік тому +8

      I like the idea that he's got the knowledge, but still doesn't know how to apply it practically until he's learned more in the field

  • @bakariwolf3835
    @bakariwolf3835 Рік тому +22

    The troll one. A DM friend of mine had the perfect fix for this. We all at the table had played a good bit. We knew what a troll was either from hearing about them or being DM's, so when we saw a troll we instantly went for fire. But it had no effect what so ever. We were all confused and frantically rolling knowledges to find out what kind of mutation this was. Killed the thing 8 times before I finally cast detect magic, and located it's ring finger having an aura of magic. We looked for a ring. No ring. Felt around and it's ring finger had an odd lump.
    This troll had cut it's finger to bone, slipped the ring on, and let itself heal with the ring inside! The ring in question gave fire resist 30.

  • @TheMightyBattleSquid
    @TheMightyBattleSquid Рік тому +5

    3:20 LOL I love the delivery there.
    "Well... he wants to STAB you so...."
    Hahaha

  • @anotherloser2858
    @anotherloser2858 Рік тому +8

    When I say "I broke the DM" I mean "I made the DM laugh so hard they had to pause the game". Be wholesome

  • @auzrael
    @auzrael Рік тому +20

    If a player decides that their character would not get involved in the plot and thus play the game I am like "Sure, your character doesn't get involved. Now we are going to play this adventure, so why dont you play a backup character who has exactly the same stats and name, but actually wants to play the game?"

    • @twistedpinttavern
      @twistedpinttavern  Рік тому +7

      "Neat character build! Now make one that wants to play the damn game!"

  • @darkagate6895
    @darkagate6895 Рік тому +11

    Came from Loot Goblin.
    I can say the "going against the norm" section reminded me of an idea I had, specifically the mention of Wizard.
    I seen Wizards "played right" once or twice, and they can completely trivialize everyone elses involvement or even the plot itself. This has lead me to being hesitant on playing Wizard, because it feels like there is a high bar to clear, and an expectation I'm going to super-optimize it. I dont want to play "wizard *right*," but I certainly don't want to do it *wrong*, if that makes sense.
    I consider the first Wizard I ever wrote - never played - pretty much has *zero* damage spells... rather, violence for them is a last resort, not a main perogative.
    (Basic idea is a Chronorhurgy wizard focused heavily on buffs and crowd/area control, rather than throwing out Fireball every round. In hindsight felt like I was building a Bard more than a Wizard.)

    • @lootgoblinmarketplace
      @lootgoblinmarketplace Рік тому +5

      Glad you decided to check out the Twisted Pint Tavern. Zyl makes great stuff!

    • @twistedpinttavern
      @twistedpinttavern  Рік тому +5

      Thanks for swinging by! I think utility wizards are a ton of fun, there's so many unique wizard spells that you really can have a blast with it.

  • @JacobL228
    @JacobL228 Рік тому +3

    Yo, int fighter right here. Thanks for the shoutout. Being the battlefield commander-type is way more fun than just bonking stuff.

    • @twistedpinttavern
      @twistedpinttavern  Рік тому +1

      Every bonk team needs a noble leader, that's where the int fighter comes in lol

  • @theuncalledfor
    @theuncalledfor Рік тому +5

    I have a super powerful item in the backstory of one of my characters.
    It eventually runs out of energy and turns into a beat-up old sword. My character starts with that depowered sword.

    • @twistedpinttavern
      @twistedpinttavern  Рік тому

      See now that I'd be okay with

    • @JagmasterGeneral12374
      @JagmasterGeneral12374 2 місяці тому

      That's actually what I did in a campaign I'm starting tomorrow my character sold his soul to a devil pre campaign at level 5. So I do have the ability to make magic binding contracts but I can't be revived and am harmed by spells that target fiends. I also "started with a magic staff however it was destroyed by the bbeg it's the reason why my guy is tracking him down in the first place.

  • @averyroff-nichols4358
    @averyroff-nichols4358 Рік тому +5

    Another take on the "ancient" character, my warlock made a deal with an Archfey to remove a powerful curse that was corroding his soul, in the process he was reborn as an Eladrin and reset to level one

  • @tinycrimester
    @tinycrimester Рік тому +8

    i always ask for super op stuff but when dm invariably tells me no, i just smile. then the 1% of the time when he says yes, i get confused and don't know what to do! i didn't plan that far ahead!

    • @twistedpinttavern
      @twistedpinttavern  Рік тому +5

      That moment of "I don't know, I didn't think I'd get this far..." lol

  • @jthompson7175
    @jthompson7175 Рік тому +10

    I've played with/had people in my games who reverse-metagame (I guess you would call it). Like they'll fight a troll and say outloud "shit if I use fire, it's metagaming" and avoid using fire like the plague. It's always funny when it happens.

    • @twistedpinttavern
      @twistedpinttavern  Рік тому +2

      I love when I know someone has knowledge of something, so we share that look like "don't do it..." so they try to naturally come to the point where their character would learn about the resistances and such

  • @merilynnshark6144
    @merilynnshark6144 Рік тому +6

    I wanna get into DnD because I love roleplaying and I love story, but it's always been a tentative thing for me because I don't know who would do it in my area, and I don't know barely anything about the game and I'm afraid there'd be too much to learn.

    • @sentientcoffeebean
      @sentientcoffeebean Рік тому +3

      Honestly everytime i start talking about dnd theres always some random person i wouldnt expect who pops up like a meerkat to say "you play dnd too?" just try asking around and once you get like 3 more people who wanna play thats good enough. If youre really struggling sites like roll20 are great for finding people to play online. As for learning to play dnd, how to play and how to make a character are 2 separate things so try to find a premade character sheet and just focus on the rules of play for now. there are tons of online sites and youtube channels that'll teach you what you need if you dont have an experienced person in the group.

    • @twistedpinttavern
      @twistedpinttavern  Рік тому +4

      I agree with the reply before me, just ask around and talk about it at game stores and such and you'll hopefully find some people! Local game stores sometimes have Facebook "looking for group" pages that you can post in as well. There's also often looking for group channels in discord servers like mine and Loot Goblin's if you're interested in online games. Good luck and have fun!

    • @merilynnshark6144
      @merilynnshark6144 Рік тому +1

      @@sentientcoffeebean @twistedpinttavern Thank you guys! I'll try it out sometime!

  • @jewabeus
    @jewabeus Рік тому +3

    Just found you from Loot Goblin's side. Enjoyed the other video you two made & figured I'd check you out. Had to sub. Glad to know you're here. 😃

  • @Oznerock
    @Oznerock Рік тому +3

    My wizard helped a pit fiend get out of a magic circle as a kid (With it's instructions, broke into a dark wizard's hideout and luckily they were careless enough to not have it trapped, low wisdom wizards amirite)... It then went onto a rampage killed a ton of people and just spared her. Because it's a pit fiend and it doesn't give a shit it will fulfill it's promises but won't go out of it's way to help, and she was a dumb child she didn't even get much out of the deal. She settled for being promised a friend because she was lonely. So it just gave her an imp that turned into a familiar appropriate for the regular find familiar spell (Usually a raven she calls whisper). Because it's a pit fiend and it won't become her friend itself, but it will gladly sent a servant to humiliate itself like that.
    That's how I handled the big backstory thing. Something big, but that a commoner could have a done, and that doesn't give me a huge advantage ingame.

    • @twistedpinttavern
      @twistedpinttavern  Рік тому +1

      I think that's a good way to do it! Plus if you ever decide to dip into warlock levels, you've got a really easy way to explain that.

    • @Oznerock
      @Oznerock Рік тому

      @@twistedpinttavern Yeah lol... Though I'm going for the 3 level dip into rogue for arcane trickster angle low! The character itself took eldritch adept as a level 1 feat for mask of myriad faces.

  • @TheMemo659
    @TheMemo659 Рік тому +10

    It's uncanny how often I set up a session zero and have players STILL create a character who either has no reason to team up with the party, is vastly out of the scope of the campaign setting I described, or is both. 😜

    • @twistedpinttavern
      @twistedpinttavern  Рік тому +5

      Just because they hear rules doesn't mean they listen lol

    • @merilynnshark6144
      @merilynnshark6144 Рік тому +2

      Even just having them not interested in the first adventure and then deciding to stick around and making a bond with the other PCs sounds better than just not caring about anything at all.

  • @theshamtai
    @theshamtai Рік тому +3

    My current DM keeps laughing at me because I will be at the table bouncing because I know the monsters (ran a few games and helped with a lot more) and know what we should do but I also know my PC doesn't have the first clue.

    • @twistedpinttavern
      @twistedpinttavern  Рік тому +2

      That little mental war of "I know the monster has resistance to fire damage, but my CHARACTER doesn't...." is always fun to watch lol

  • @MeriadocMyr
    @MeriadocMyr Рік тому +1

    I player an ancient wizard once, that character started at level 10 and he was originally a 9th level warpriest that spend most of his time slowly changing into wizard

  • @Ash-Bun
    @Ash-Bun Рік тому +2

    I'm currently in a campaign where I'm playing a moon druid, but I literally use my wild shape as a last resort and my primary mode of dealing damage is elven accuracy and dual wielding scimitars because our DM uses flanking rules.
    Long story short, I'm playing a Eilistraeen Drow moon druid and I don't really have to worry about sunlight sensitivity because it's Curse of Straud, but I actively work with my DM to work out how to limit super strong spells, like summon woodland creatures we worked out that it maxes out as 1 pixie to prevent a full party of flying Tyrannosaurus. The whole party is having a lot of fun with role play because all of us have very different religious beliefs in game and it's probably my favorite d&d group.

  • @zanewilkins9548
    @zanewilkins9548 Рік тому +6

    With a 900 year old wizard, I would make the wizard have dementia, and make him a wild mage, but he knows how to control his magic, but his dementia keeps him from doing it

    • @twistedpinttavern
      @twistedpinttavern  Рік тому +1

      As long as he doesn't get a crazy advantage from his age, I think it could be fun to play!

    • @whome9842
      @whome9842 Рік тому +1

      There is an isekai where the protagonist don't get any super power and is a regular human in a fantasy world. He ended in a party who have a wizard way above everybody else level but his dementia means he forget his spells and stuff so the protagonist goes do minor stuff like lock picking, and repairs while in combat he helps the wizard remember his own spells.

  • @connor_draco_tempest2891
    @connor_draco_tempest2891 Рік тому +5

    Hmmmm so that's why there was a goblin behind the tavern eh I made sure to close off the back of the dragonhoard Magic Weapon and item shop

  • @CaseyWilkesmusic
    @CaseyWilkesmusic Рік тому +2

    “The DM failed to kill us again” is not necessarily a problem outlook. They should just change the word “DM” to “the bad guys”. My long-running group knows that I hardly pull punches so when they make it through a situation that was clearly intended to kill them they really feel they earned the win. They say “dang, you weren’t ready for this party DM!”

    • @twistedpinttavern
      @twistedpinttavern  Рік тому +1

      Yeah, it's all about perspective. The bad guys are definitely trying to kill you, so being happy with the fact that they didn't pull it off is fine, but specifically blaming the DM for everything is where problems come up.

  • @VestedUTuber
    @VestedUTuber Рік тому +3

    Ok, a DEX Paladin is fine, a Wizard who picks and chooses utility spells instead of just loading up on burst damage all the time is fine. An STR Rogue on the other hand... well, usually you do that if you intend on multiclassing into a strength-based martial class, if you're just going straight rogue with an STR build, well, I'm not saying you can't do that but you're actively gimping yourself since Sneak Attack requires finesse weapons. You'd really only go STR pure rogue for a fluffy character, not a crunchy one. As for non-EB warlock, Hexblades generally don't use EB and "Pokemon Trainer" Pact of the Chain Warlocks outright can't make use of it with their build. There's a bunch of other stuff you can do with a Warlock as well without going with a specific "archetype" build, it's just that non-EB spam "generic" Warlocks often get screwed over by DMs who are too generous with long rests. My AL character is a manipulation-focused Kobold Feylock.

    • @twistedpinttavern
      @twistedpinttavern  Рік тому

      I agree that the success of a unique character heavily depends on the DM

  • @nabra97
    @nabra97 Рік тому +2

    6:07 I mean, if you don't go with polearm build, I would argue that dex is better for the paladin) Like, yes, I could have 20 AC instead of 18, but an ability to sneak ahead is already better, and I don't even touch elven accuracy. I can understand somebody being upset with other player making a borderline unplayable character thought... I haven't faced it personally, but I see how it may take away some fun from both players and the DM.
    11:40 I remember one old article that accused everyone who would play a non-human character of being either pretentious or mentally ill, because apparently it's impossible to properly roleplay a non-human. Perhaps it's something along this line 🤔
    13:18 It reminds me of how we fought a hydra once. I would hit it with fire every single time (because my default attack delete fire damage), but it didn't stop it from regeneration. Initially, I didn't even know it was a hydra. Than I thought that it was a homebrew modification (perhaps it needs frost or thunder or so). Eventually it turned out that DM for some reason thought that the Green flame sword delt slashing damage; I agree that arguing on this topic is never OK, but perhaps just politely asking about it may be fine

    • @twistedpinttavern
      @twistedpinttavern  Рік тому +1

      On the hydra one, that's just an unfortunate scenario, and absolutely there's a difference between double checking on something a and being problematic about it!

  • @seaborgium919
    @seaborgium919 Рік тому

    4:02 I have had DMs change things against us when I've said something offhandedly. I no longer table talk, and absolutely will hide things from the DM.

  • @jodii.6
    @jodii.6 Рік тому +2

    I came from lootgoblin's video, you two should make more videos together!

    • @twistedpinttavern
      @twistedpinttavern  Рік тому +2

      Thanks for making the trip over! We had fun making these, I'd love to do more!

    • @jodii.6
      @jodii.6 Рік тому +1

      @@twistedpinttavern that's great to hear! Your narratives are awesome!

  • @justcallmeluke7254
    @justcallmeluke7254 Рік тому +3

    My family has just started putting together a D&D game.
    I am making a Draconblood dragonborn mage failed lich, So Draconblood dragonborn made of bones. I lost my ability to use dragon based attacks but I have the immunity to disease and poison.
    I am hoping this is balanced, but this is our first time. We are also starting in a village since we are following the D&D book of searching for a wish dragon I believe. But starting in a village is hard for a 7ft dragonborn skeleton, so ima hope a cloak will help me here lol.

    • @sentientcoffeebean
      @sentientcoffeebean Рік тому +2

      whenever i play a zombie/ undead character i usally just use the warforged stats and reflavor it to suit. alot of their racial abilities (dont need to breathe, or eat, +2 to con) make alot of sense for an undead character.

    • @twistedpinttavern
      @twistedpinttavern  Рік тому +2

      I like the custom race! Immunity to poison is really good in some scenarios and doesn't matter in others, just depends on who/what you're fighting. I think you'll have fun with it, make sure to come back and share some stories of your first game!

    • @twistedpinttavern
      @twistedpinttavern  Рік тому +1

      Honestly makes a lot of sense

  • @FaustoPego
    @FaustoPego Рік тому +3

    I have a rule DMing that the group can have only one badass.
    The thing about the guy looking at the phone, honestly, it's on D&D's combat. D&D combat is boring. It's not boring for the DM because he's playing all the time.

    • @twistedpinttavern
      @twistedpinttavern  Рік тому +3

      I don't mind it people are on their phone during combat as long as they still pay attention, but I do take it as a sign to try and spice things up

    • @FaustoPego
      @FaustoPego Рік тому

      @@twistedpinttavern it's not on you or them , though. I honestly think D&D needs a big combat revamp to make people more hyped for fighting

    • @Oznerock
      @Oznerock Рік тому

      @@FaustoPego Ehhhhh I personally love combat.

  • @ragerave7517
    @ragerave7517 Рік тому +1

    I always run a certain style of barbarian or fighter and that’s a unarmed combatant even if I do less damage I enjoy it.

  • @JagmasterGeneral12374
    @JagmasterGeneral12374 2 місяці тому

    I did have a character whos goal was to get the ring of winter however i didn't get it for almost three years of campaign at 14 levels however my dm was great and constantly tieing me chasing clues trying to find it

  • @momomomocensoredbyyoutube9085
    @momomomocensoredbyyoutube9085 10 місяців тому

    @The DM is the enemy. In my current saturday group our DM is literally our enemy. If we don't withhold our plans from our DM, he will use our plans against us, every single time. My DM is the kinda guy that if you ask if a certain kind of item is available to buy at a shop he'll say "oh that item? Sure it's common but not in my campaign. It'll probably be available on another continent but now I'll have to rethink that." Not every DM is your enemy but some are.

  • @AtelierGod
    @AtelierGod Рік тому +1

    I’ve tried coming up with cool builds in 5e, only for them to be overshadowed by a subclassless barbarian 2 levels lower than you who took the GWM feat. What’s the point after being told that?

    • @twistedpinttavern
      @twistedpinttavern  Рік тому +2

      If you're going for damage output, then yeah, optimized/minmaxed builds will always win out. But the point to me of cool builds is the ability to remain functional while having fun with a unique concept and RP. Even if you're not doing hardly anything in combat, as long as you're having fun, that's the part that matters

    • @AtelierGod
      @AtelierGod Рік тому

      @@twistedpinttavern hard to call it optimized or min maxed when they also could pick up PAM and a subclass to further raise the damage or survivability.

  • @paulmacdonald5135
    @paulmacdonald5135 Рік тому +2

    Bring on the unstable ones worse than me

    • @twistedpinttavern
      @twistedpinttavern  Рік тому +1

      As in more unstable than these ones?

    • @paulmacdonald5135
      @paulmacdonald5135 Рік тому +2

      @@twistedpinttavern I play by the seat of my pants and use strange ideas such as a Tabaxi that self medicated with catnip and a werewolf named Chihuahua that is a dwarf so a small werewolf

    • @twistedpinttavern
      @twistedpinttavern  Рік тому +1

      Ahh I see lol. The dwarf werewolf named chihuahua gets me every time lol

  • @AtelierGod
    @AtelierGod Рік тому +2

    A dex paladin is definitely possible but it further stretches out your ability scores so it might just be smarter to play the revised ranger as they’re pretty close to being a dex paladin or at least the dex counterpart to paladin.
    Str rogues are often not recommended due to the nature of sneak attack only working on finesse weapon which can use dex inherently or ranged weapon that only uses dex if MAD builds are considered bad then turning a SAD build into one intentionally would also be seen as bad.
    And wizards can take whatever spells they want, if I wanted some specific spells I would just play my own spell caster.

    • @twistedpinttavern
      @twistedpinttavern  Рік тому +2

      That's true, a good ranger can be considered a dex paladin. And strength rogues aren't optimized, sure, but can be fun for RP purposes!

    • @dirtywhitellama
      @dirtywhitellama Рік тому +1

      Sure, but reactions like this are part of the problem. A person doesn't have to play the most effective build, they can play whatever they want and just roll with it, even if it's not remotely optimized. And someone coming in and telling them to do it different is patronizing and disheartening.

  • @momomomocensoredbyyoutube9085
    @momomomocensoredbyyoutube9085 10 місяців тому

    You should never punish your players for being more diligent and learning the game on their own time. In fact that should be encouraged. Knowing monster stat blocks is a great way to figure out how to defeat them, the problem is metagaming. People need to learn how to separate themselves from their character.

  • @ChaosTicket
    @ChaosTicket Рік тому

    This video starts out hard into the "Story first, Danger second"
    *Sigh*, Okay to all GMs, why dont you actually reward players for Good actions and punish Bad actions? Every story about a GM sounds like a Bad Boss Story. "You expect to be paid?!" Things tend to reach a boiling point when something like an Old School Roleplayer gets upset and quits, or the GM gets angry that one or more Players arent liking their story so they quit. People are hurt, bridges are burned, etc.
    As a GM its your job to explain if youre not going to play in dungeons, be serious about combat, etc. TELL people youe focused on story or a long campaign instead of quick games with combat.
    The Themantic things is good for stories, but it actually brings down the party when say the Trapsmith is bad as finding and disarming traps.
    On the opposite side when you have soft- games using PCs with Plot Armor that will confuse people looking for dangerous situations like Lord of the Rings or Indiana Jones.
    So take this list and flip it around.
    #1 "We need to powerful equipment and allies to guarantee will kill these monsters and succeed at saving people/places/the world".
    While having a superpowerful "Punch of Kill Everything as level 1 is not really fair, finding things to succeed is one of the most basic motivations imaginable. Its like a GM saying "I ban shovels" to people about to start digging.
    #2 Pay your characters
    #3 The Dungeon Master is supposed to be Roleplaying the Bad Guys.
    #4 (Advantage is a 5e thing) Characters are motivated to achieve the best results so they can actually perform #1
    #5 Don't be dead weight on your team.
    #6 Yes Session 0 is important
    #7 This needs further context)
    #8 See #3. A good Dungeon Master has to know when to be the Bad Guy and when to be a Good Person outside of games.
    #9 (This needs further context)
    #10 Metagaming in stories should be kept to a minimum, but learning X monster has a weakness to something should be learned. No "I forgot to use Bludgeoning weapons against skeletons, *derp*". Don't look up stat blocks while fighting. I hate when a GM just gives enemies randomized abilities but no actual indications.
    I remember a story "Am I Smart Enough To Know What An Elf is?" also known as "Anon doesn't know what a goblin is" about Alien Covenant style Goblins that reproduced by spores and burst out of people. Its very memorable to me, but its also hard to find now. The GM in the story just keeps changing things to say the Player Characters are "Too Stupid" to know about the chestbursting, that no skill check will let you know this, that the Goblins are technically *not Goblins* so some like a Ranger's Favored Enemy class feature doesnt work, etc. Eventually one player then asks "Do I know what an Elf is?" and finally the GM says "yes, you know what an Elf is". Other players start joining in on the fun and asking annoying questions like "Do I know what a table is?"

  • @Soveit400
    @Soveit400 Рік тому +1

    First