It’s piston cup regulatory is that you get what you work with so that means no upgrading in participating piston cup races in any modifications off-season, such as when lightning race, the world, Grand Prix and the off-road set up he did with radiator Spring 500 1/2 are reverted back to piston, cup regulatory race car
@@andreizadasilvapereira5312 while Lightning reaches 208 mph in his best years, Storm reaches 214 mph which makes him the 2nd fastest Cars character after Francesco.
they didnt upgrade him because he is a NASCAR car, everything he has in him has alot of power, if they were to remove something to try to make him faster, they are basically down grading him. They didnt want to end up messing something up inside the car to where they cant fix it back.
Aaand this is all overriden with Planes 1 and 2. Dusty gets upgraded to go faster. I understand the engine is basically the guts and brain of the car but thats also altered with Dusty’s upgrades. In short, Cars 3 has a bad plot.
Nope there are many cars which are faster than nascars in the real world. They didnt upgrade him because changing performance is not possible in the cars univers otherwise the wealthy lemon cars in Cars 2 could have just upgraded themselves.
Mcqueen in cars 2 could beat storm as he beat a F1 car in a straight race which franseccio can go 220mph and McQueen won. And a young McQueen can go around 225mph as mcqueen was 40 years old in cars 3 rather then 20 in cars 1
I am an automotive technician and I have my own theory of why….when vehicles get older and older or when anything gets older and older they get slower…..So there’s 2 theories for me: they either didn’t have his parts anymore but had every other part of his build and axel rods. Because as technology gets older…certain parts become unavailable. However….we also have to think about the fact that sometimes….if we don’t want to replace the item completely but we don’t have the parts….we can use new parts….not all the time but sometimes we can. So that being said….Lighting’s top speed in Cars 1 was 212 miles per hour if Doc was cheering him on to go faster….his actual top speed if he didn’t want to wreck and was being safe….was 206 miles per hour. As I said before technology is always changing which is why top speed in 3 was 198…..we can notice Lighting after his upgrade because when he and Cruz become friends and are playing around Doc’s track….now Lightning can keep up with Cruz on pavement and be ahead of Cruz when off road….because he got new parts….. So he would have been able to beat Jackson Storm but he didn’t because he let Cruz race the second half to be nice. Not because he couldn’t. That’s my theory. I’m skipping the part about cars being human….because Cars isn’t real but it kind of is because sometimes we can’t get certain parts…..in time or can’t get them at all because they don’t make those parts anymore. But that does make sense for the movie because they have teeth, a tongue, Lightning gets the hiccup…..the only things they can do with themselves is use their horn, stop, go, use their tail hook, raise their ladder, and use their lights…..so when they break down….we might only be able to fix their car body….so that goes with the part that says: sometimes certain parts can’t be made anymore.
I’m certain The Piston Cup has “NASCAR-like” rules to prevent certain upgrades such as 3-wheel brakes, so perhaps you’re right. He’s probably not allowed to use certain types of aftermarket parts (the equivalent of using steroids in sports to “cheat” to win) but I find it difficult to believe they stopped making parts for him. He’s basically a popular, “celebrity” racer in the cars universe so there’s probably a huge market for whatever types of parts his model is, even if his model is older.
@@hobomike6935 your probably right as well! He’s a famous race car so they would have to have his parts but also think of this way….these cars are sort of human…I mean all of the vehicles have doors but they never open, everyone has teeth and a tongue, of course they can talk…including Red because we see Red talking to a reporter, crying and laughing in the first movie. He’s also very alert as well for someone who doesn’t talk much. Lightning gets the hiccups and Mater knows what ice-cream is and what pistachios taste like…so they couldn’t upgrade them because inside is not only parts but also human organs and parts….however they do break down which normally cars and trucks and buses don’t break down that easily….but we have seen McQueen and Doc crash and we have heard that Sally was broken down and Doc fixed her and we have seen Otis break down before…but they got fixed. Only thing is though is that like you said: they probably have to follow certain rules. Especially the racers and Miss Fritter and Mater….and Red for that matter. Go too fast and now that’s cheating…ish. Go too fast and you could crash or do your job wrong or cause a serious accident.
Theory 4: NASCAR is stock car racing, to my knowledge, and upgrading would be against the whole point and end up getting him disqualified. You'd no longer be a stock car and you'd have a mechanical advantage over the other stock cars. Jackson is also a stock car, but with newer technologies and better aerodynamics, making him as fast as he is while still staying stock.
but if you didn't make a direct engine swap, but only optimized minor things so that it was still an exciting race, he wouldn't have an “advantage” over the others, because it could still be that lightning is a little further back due to a mistake, but there is a fairer chance for him to win a race.
I hate that fucking series. Like they kinda fucked up the perfect way to give justice to Doc's career by having McQueen win instead of replacing him with Cruz (I don't give a shit about her gender, that would've sucked either way), but we still have a good ending for McQueen's character arc and aswell as Cruz's arc. BUT THEN CARS ON THE ROAD JUST TAKES IT AND TAKES A MASSIVE FUCKING TURD ON THOSE CHARACTER ARCS, EVEN MATER'S CHARACTER ARC IN CARS 2!
Simple answer: The plot. Jackson Storm's speed is 214mph Lightning's speed was 212mph in Cars (2006) Only 2 miles behind Jackson, and if you pay attention Jackson only runs at 207mph each race, as you can see when Cruz is calling out his speed in the final race. Which means Lightning could pass him and beat him in a race easily, but Disney had to screw that up. Lightning's speed is 198mph in Cars 3 (Apparently because he's old) Which doesn't make much sense because Doc Hudson can still race the same way he did in Thomasville. So Lightning's age doesn't matter, especially since his parts were repaired. Lightning would've cooked Storm in Florida. But blame Disney.
Lighting may not have gotten an upgrade because he was getting older, it could be that the new model that storm was had it’s own separate upgrades and engine and there were no upgrades for a old model car like McQueen. Also lighting was getting old in total, he would be in his early - mid 40’s during the movie and that’s when most professional athletes do start slowing down and retiring except for a few that continue playing. Besides storm basically had the exact same mindset and personality as McQueen did during the first movie.
Here's my favorite theory, In real NASCAR cars you can't upgrade the car to make it faster, that's one of the main rules of NASCAR. So basically he is stuck like this.
Jackson is built with Lightweight Materials and has an Electric Motor to boost performance so even if Lightning could without replacing his entire body with a new one, the modifications would be limited.
I think many are missing the point as to what kind of car McQueen is. He’s a stock car from 06 and if I’m not mistaken stock cars are not allowed to be taken to the track with modifications or anything of that matter. He by the book had to race as is. And he, much like real cars, is only as good as the technology was back when he was first manufactured
something i noticed, was that in one part of the los angeles 500 race, mcqueen was going just as fast as storm so he probably went at least faster than 200mph. also im talking about the part after storm said enjoy your retirement
Lack of good plot. Would’ve been empowering if Lightning retired in his own terms and retired after winning. They didn’t give Justice to Doc’s career. McQueen should’ve prove them that what they did to Doc was wrong. Like Doc Hudson, they didn’t even give McQueen full chance to show that he still got more gas left in the tank.
I think getting an upgrade would make things too easy. Also, if Lightning got a ton of upgrades, that would drastically change the driving dynamic of him. Although it could be possible that they could get away with removing the restrictor plate on the engine which already makes 750hp which is 200 more than what today’s NASCARs make on superspeedways. But upgrading would probably be a rule violation. The thing about that is Lightning McQueen is a previous generation racer going against the latest gen, but in this case it’s more like a comparison between gen 4 NASCARs and today’s NASCARs with the lighter centerlock wheels, 6 speed sequential trans, etc. In a nutshell, an upgrade would be too easy, probably isn’t plausible, and would probably be a rule violation.
Okay i have a major argument. Dusty in Planes upgraded himself 2 times in first movie (once on the beginning, second one After almost drowning) and we know it’s the same universe. So why McQueen couldn’t do that ? That just ducking up with fans right now, or making another character a main one couse everyone now thinks that men are weak or something. Like I get it we are equal as humans but that’s not an argument to ruin a whole movie just because we can. PS: even if Cruz was a guy I would still hate this concept, I’m not sexist and I don’t want to offend anyone. Hope you understand. Lot’s of love ladies and gentleman
Dusty and McQueen are different vehicles in different races. Planes can upgrade as much as they want. Cars can do so too but in McQueen's case, he's literally built like a NASCAR car. Further upgrades will downgrade him pretty much, lol.
"or making another character a main one couse everyone now thinks that men are weak or something. Like I get it we are equal as humans but that’s not an argument to ruin a whole movie just because we can." Jesus you were going fine until you decided to take the most incel route possible.
1:40 This is not true. Hugo was pretending to need towing. Mater even realizes this when he says "That Lemon is being towed but he looks perfectly fine." Also, in the casino we see that he then drives perfectly fine showing that it was just to not appear suspicious in public/
It’s wasn’t even a trilogy for Lightning, it was just a duology which is Cars 1 and Cars 3 as Cars 2 serves more as a spinoff and as someone else in the comments said, Dusty from Planes got two upgrades which is the same world canonically. Cruz got a upgrade as well towards the end of the movie as her rear looked a lot more like the other gen cars. There was no excuse for Lighting to not have gotten an upgrade. This was mainly due to poor writing. It feels like they still owe us another movie as it only felt like a duology and not a trilogy and the whole retirement thing is bs as Lightning never learns and still continues to race at the end of the movie. The new hypercars should have had a different race instead of competing in the same race as the NASCARs like lightning.
Imagine if there was a cars 4 which releases In the future of the cars which cars can get upgraded, lightning mqueen can upgrade into a corvette stingray 2023
The Theory 2 couldn't be true, you can upgrade a car since one of the racers in cars 2 was a working class car and upgraded until he made himself into the grand prix
Theory 2/3 is dumb, but theory is a theory. Theory 1 is true. As google says, “the actual reason is, because there wouldn't be a ton of plot if that was the solution the creators went for. It also wouldn't create the plot they were going for, which was Lightning trying to keep up with The Youth, realizing and accepting he couldn't, and passing the baton to the next generation.” That means, he could beat everyone of them, but because of the creator, wanted a better plot, and not McL just beating everyone, they thought giving the race number up, to the new racer, gives a better plot. So I think McL could definitely defeat them all, he just needed, better creators story writing. watch "Cars 3 Deleted Scene - "The Storm Is Over"" McL, actually wins against storm, so basically, it proves, lighting could beat them all in the end.
His body is too old to go faster than he was in his prime, its like the organs theory, when cars get older they cannot go as fast as they was in their earlier years, and that now Mcqueen is an adult car.
Humans dont upgrade their body they get old. Same theory for cars here they dont want to upgrade the cars to keep it simple for the kids that lightning doc got older the The King crashed into his last race while retirement that means he also got older same with lightning he got older in cars 3. Also when cars 1 came in there was rookie lightning for the king and in cars3 there was a attitude rookie for lightning which was storm
lets just say that the Cars in this universe drop in performance really fast. So if McQueen wanted to get faster/go as fast as his young days, he would need to have basically his entire body replaced (A full body transplant for a human). Maybe not just his engine was subpar, his axle, fluid chambers, pumps, radiators, heck maybe even his chassis is too outdated to handle faster speeds, so he would lose traction and control if he tried to go faster. We can also put in metal fatigue on vital structural parts, so if he wanted to get faster? He doesn't need a few upgrades, he needs to get a total overhaul. Basically in the racing world, his current body is as good as a totaled car and trying to fix it would be basically giving birth to a new Car.
I think about it like this: If you have a fully functional heart, but there's a donor with an even healthier heart, you wouldn't get the organ transplant It's like that, Lightning is fine how he is, he's not in need of an upgrade Edit: Nvm, if the rich one didn't upgrade, then it's not possible lol
XR is correct, They *can* open their doors. they're revealed to have interiors, as seen in Cars 2 when one of the cars has their eyes on the headlights rather than the windshields and you can see inside the car. also, when various cars are damaged throughout the trilogy, their doors can be seen partially ajar from being bent/broken off.
An idea i came up with is that yes McQueen could get a small upgrade as he is at a major disadvantage on the field at the end. However im thinking because his body, like his organs and stuff is not strong enough to handle going close to 220 like in cars 2. So i think mechanically he could but at the risk of harming him otherwise
It could be because his body probably wouldn’t be made to handle the engine. But that could be debunked because of Cruz. So my only theory is that it would be illegal to upgrade yourself and your engine.
Just saying in cars 2 when the one agent is being interrogated and he says "i can change an engine block" which should mean that he can replace the whole engine because to replace an engine block means removing the whole engine and if you can replace that important of a piece you should be able to put a better engine in also storms style or type car would be in a different class of racing
Upgrade is possible from his engine not whole body ) for example you know that in cars 2 some bad cars blast other cars engine if car engine are blast then it's just a crush so the upgration was possible
He didn't get and upgrade because the difference between piston cup race and the world grand prix is that Nascar cannot get and upgrade it's part of the Nascar rule and the world grand prix your allowed to upgrade just for better grip and handline through tough terrains on the road
I think he couldn't get an upgrade because either that technology didnt exist or the technology needed to make whole new bodies for cars is extremely rare
If McQueen got the upgrade from Cars 2 we would had a chance to beat Storm because in Cars 2 McQueen beat Franchesco because McQueens Maximum speed is about 249MPH but when they went home he went back back from this old stock style...if McQueen kept thr style it would be a different story in Cars 3
I think its simple. Just like real life, you can only upgrade a car so much. Its exactly why in GT racing, teams will upgrade to a completely new model every so many years. Eventually new parts just arent compatible with older designs. I use GT as my example since McQueen is based off a corvette. A C6 is awesome buy even in its best state, it cant compete against the newer C8s.
I know this is video is 1 year ago but watching Planes really gives you hope Cars 3 would go down that storyline but sadly it didn't. Before watching it I told myself I hope this doesn't go the teacher student route but it did
198 isn't faster enough neither McQueen and doc are modified for major enhancements to get a complete revamp McQueen can't be fast as storm but smarter than him regarding Cruz to defeat storm
I wonder if Jackson Storm will get a redemption arc, .. hopefully Cars 4 is about Ramirez and Storm, 2 sides of the coin aiming for the win. One who is Righteous, the other looking for Redemption
If McQueen is slow because he is old. then in cars1, doc hudson shouldn't have been able to 'practice' in the radiator springs dirt loop because he's going to 'die of old age' in a few years before cars2. Look at dinoco's King, he retired in a better way than McQueen with his midlife crisis. Also, Jackson storm and the "new gens" should've raced against lewis hamilton and jeff gorvette in GT racing rather than McQueen with those specs
But in cars movie franchise said us that if car goes old then his speed was automatically redused it's some happens with lightning McQueen but in cars 3 lightning McQueen break his limit 2 times 1st when McQueen was crush before he was Cruse he break his limit that's why his tire was blast and 2nd time he break his limit when race with cruse he beat him 1 time but only for some secs
Because the difference of Cars 3 and 2 is the racing category. The world grand prix didn't have rules that stop cars from upgrading. Cars 3 goes back to the Piston Cup which is the equivalent of Nascar. In Nascar it's illegal to upgrade. It's stock car racing.
To be honest, I don’t even think they can upgrade because the type of engine because McQueen might have a old engine and storm might have a new engine so how are they gonna upgrade because I can’t switch engines because their engine is pretty much them
Bru he could have gotten a upgrade remember in cars 2 with mater with the rocket boosters at the end it make him go faster so am sure McQueen could have got a upgrade
how are rocket boosters not cheating in a piston cup race? the cars 2 race I get, because that was a world-class race (any type of vehicle, any type of propulsion, any type of equipment to win it) but I would think there would be rules against that in piston cups
I have one argument in Tokyo mater they did get upgraded so why can’t McQueen because it could help with airflow,aerodynamics,downforce and boost from cars1 from the tuners he had nos and snot rod had a clear customised supercharger.We humans can’t input ai technology inside us to make us better so why would cars be able to and in cars 1 didn’t doc preform surgery or smth on the police man sorry I forgot his name so if the cars have organs why can’t he just get surgery?
It should be completely safe to get an upgrade if they manufacture each other in factories my evidence is in cars two where they sit or manufacturer shop making us
The fact that McQueen didn't upgrade for plot reasons makes Cars 3 the worst animated sequel of all time. I have fond childhood memories loving Secret of NIMH 2 Timmy to the rescue, An American Tail Mystery of the night monster, Cars 2, Shrek the third, Charlottes web 2, Fox and the hound 2 and a few hated Land Before time sequels, but Ford Cars 3.
Young mcqueen beats storm he beat fransisco who had a 220 miles per hour speed and storm with 214 miles per hour so that makes young mcqueen faster than storm
@@SyedAli-gl7jq fr jackson is just in his prime while mcqueen prime has ended thats why they get Cruz to change him cause shes also in her prime idk if her name was Cruz the yellow car
Jackson isn’t just an “upgraded” vehicle, he’s a completely new type of vehicle altogether that just outperforms the older types; in body shape, engine/drivetrain design, efficiency, acceleration factor, friction, everything. Part of me feels bad for McQueen, but remember, _this is how the King felt_ when Lightning was brand new and racing against him. He was an older Plymouth model, and was simply not able to keep up with the spiffy, streamlined new lightning McQueen Racecar.
Any Other Theories?
It’s piston cup regulatory is that you get what you work with so that means no upgrading in participating piston cup races in any modifications off-season, such as when lightning race, the world, Grand Prix and the off-road set up he did with radiator Spring 500 1/2 are reverted back to piston, cup regulatory race car
McQueen can't just grade it has to be in the fia regulations and he knows that's why or he can't afford a new engine
McQueen IS faster than Storm, Storm just demotivated McQueen and forced him to retire, Jackson Storm even released some oil to force him crash.
@@andreizadasilvapereira5312 while Lightning reaches 208 mph in his best years, Storm reaches 214 mph which makes him the 2nd fastest Cars character after Francesco.
@@andreizadasilvapereira5312 when did Storm release an Oil slick?
I thought McQueen just pushed too hard and lost steering control.
i like how all the main cars can gain speed whenever they need it but all the side characters are stuck at the same speed
It’s like they just “run” faster😂
@@L-VA21 fr 💀
cars 3 is a damn joke
As if it weren't like that in real life, right, idiot?
they didnt upgrade him because he is a NASCAR car, everything he has in him has alot of power, if they were to remove something to try to make him faster, they are basically down grading him. They didnt want to end up messing something up inside the car to where they cant fix it back.
That's an interesting theory,I hope Pixar puts it as cannon
Makes no sense
Aaand this is all overriden with Planes 1 and 2. Dusty gets upgraded to go faster. I understand the engine is basically the guts and brain of the car but thats also altered with Dusty’s upgrades. In short, Cars 3 has a bad plot.
@@SpinosaurusStudios_ yep we need a cars 4 to fix the damge cars 2 & 3 did
Nope there are many cars which are faster than nascars in the real world. They didnt upgrade him because changing performance is not possible in the cars univers otherwise the wealthy lemon cars in Cars 2 could have just upgraded themselves.
Mcqueen in cars 2 could beat storm as he beat a F1 car in a straight race which franseccio can go 220mph and McQueen won. And a young McQueen can go around 225mph as mcqueen was 40 years old in cars 3 rather then 20 in cars 1
But his voice
That’s what i said he just got old and storm is a young fast rookie with new tech
tbh storm and all the next gens shouldnt even be in the same division, their all hypercars racing against a solo nascar
Agreed, Stranger on the internet
and mcqueen was still in the top 5@@Kamfys
McQueen canonically beat Frencescio who has a top speed of 220
in car 2 his top speed is 245mph
They REALLY want to pretend that movie never existed
Storm’s is 245
@@noviranger88its actually 214 as the movie mentioned his top speed was 214 mph
@aureliamastergoomba1278 And AureliaShipping is 10x as good as Storm is fast. ASH DOES SO MUCH FOR LILLIE!
Tbh if this was real Nascar, then Jackson would have been kicked out mid-season, along with a rule change saying that Jackson's type can't race.
Yess! Finally! Then those next gens should of gotten scrapped!
The NBA, Boxing, and many other professional sports organizations would like to have a word with you in denying certain "types" from competing
@@batmon696 Women with unusually high testosterone have been disqualified and robbed from their rightful place. And no I'm not talking transwomen.
Gasp caracist
@@batmon696bro the Olympics (summer) wpuld be so boring if Jamaica and the many countries of Africa couldn't race anymore.
lets be honest lighting mcqueen from car 2 would beat jackson storm they just made him slower to end the movies
Cause he old, thats a whole plot
@@Jake-kb2leHe was older not old.
1:58 Jackson Storm was hired by Miles Axelrod aka Lemon Kingpin
1:59 but Lightning's hood can be opened because the engine is there, it was evident during Time Travel Mater.
I am an automotive technician and I have my own theory of why….when vehicles get older and older or when anything gets older and older they get slower…..So there’s 2 theories for me: they either didn’t have his parts anymore but had every other part of his build and axel rods. Because as technology gets older…certain parts become unavailable. However….we also have to think about the fact that sometimes….if we don’t want to replace the item completely but we don’t have the parts….we can use new parts….not all the time but sometimes we can. So that being said….Lighting’s top speed in Cars 1 was 212 miles per hour if Doc was cheering him on to go faster….his actual top speed if he didn’t want to wreck and was being safe….was 206 miles per hour. As I said before technology is always changing which is why top speed in 3 was 198…..we can notice Lighting after his upgrade because when he and Cruz become friends and are playing around Doc’s track….now Lightning can keep up with Cruz on pavement and be ahead of Cruz when off road….because he got new parts…..
So he would have been able to beat Jackson Storm but he didn’t because he let Cruz race the second half to be nice. Not because he couldn’t. That’s my theory.
I’m skipping the part about cars being human….because Cars isn’t real but it kind of is because sometimes we can’t get certain parts…..in time or can’t get them at all because they don’t make those parts anymore. But that does make sense for the movie because they have teeth, a tongue, Lightning gets the hiccup…..the only things they can do with themselves is use their horn, stop, go, use their tail hook, raise their ladder, and use their lights…..so when they break down….we might only be able to fix their car body….so that goes with the part that says: sometimes certain parts can’t be made anymore.
I’m certain The Piston Cup has “NASCAR-like” rules to prevent certain upgrades such as 3-wheel brakes, so perhaps you’re right.
He’s probably not allowed to use certain types of aftermarket parts (the equivalent of using steroids in sports to “cheat” to win) but I find it difficult to believe they stopped making parts for him. He’s basically a popular, “celebrity” racer in the cars universe so there’s probably a huge market for whatever types of parts his model is, even if his model is older.
@@hobomike6935 your probably right as well! He’s a famous race car so they would have to have his parts but also think of this way….these cars are sort of human…I mean all of the vehicles have doors but they never open, everyone has teeth and a tongue, of course they can talk…including Red because we see Red talking to a reporter, crying and laughing in the first movie. He’s also very alert as well for someone who doesn’t talk much. Lightning gets the hiccups and Mater knows what ice-cream is and what pistachios taste like…so they couldn’t upgrade them because inside is not only parts but also human organs and parts….however they do break down which normally cars and trucks and buses don’t break down that easily….but we have seen McQueen and Doc crash and we have heard that Sally was broken down and Doc fixed her and we have seen Otis break down before…but they got fixed. Only thing is though is that like you said: they probably have to follow certain rules. Especially the racers and Miss Fritter and Mater….and Red for that matter. Go too fast and now that’s cheating…ish. Go too fast and you could crash or do your job wrong or cause a serious accident.
Hey hey hey 😊 why don't just change his engine and bodykit like every car does?
One theory: Mcqueen reached the limit of how fast he can be or being faster will cause hes engine to explode or something
Is true it's all the blow up engine lighting had a crash in Los Angeles.
Point he did I was being Francesca which is 225 mph so he could 100% go faster
lightnings engine didn't blow up at the los Angelos international speedway cars 3..@@6Atryda
His body is just too old to handle his top speed nowadays.
@@arthurmercado946440 years old isn't old.
impressed by your clarity and depth, every video is a hit!
Theory 4: NASCAR is stock car racing, to my knowledge, and upgrading would be against the whole point and end up getting him disqualified. You'd no longer be a stock car and you'd have a mechanical advantage over the other stock cars.
Jackson is also a stock car, but with newer technologies and better aerodynamics, making him as fast as he is while still staying stock.
but if you didn't make a direct engine swap, but only optimized minor things so that it was still an exciting race, he wouldn't have an “advantage” over the others, because it could still be that lightning is a little further back due to a mistake, but there is a fairer chance for him to win a race.
Cars on the road came back with mater opening his door💀
I hate that fucking series. Like they kinda fucked up the perfect way to give justice to Doc's career by having McQueen win instead of replacing him with Cruz (I don't give a shit about her gender, that would've sucked either way), but we still have a good ending for McQueen's character arc and aswell as Cruz's arc.
BUT THEN CARS ON THE ROAD JUST TAKES IT AND TAKES A MASSIVE FUCKING TURD ON THOSE CHARACTER ARCS, EVEN MATER'S CHARACTER ARC IN CARS 2!
@@vito6197 except McQueen STILL WON at the end of the Cars 3. since he carried the number to the track.
@@vito6197Cry about it
Simple answer: The plot.
Jackson Storm's speed is 214mph
Lightning's speed was 212mph in Cars (2006)
Only 2 miles behind Jackson, and if you pay attention Jackson only runs at 207mph each race, as you can see when Cruz is calling out his speed in the final race. Which means Lightning could pass him and beat him in a race easily, but Disney had to screw that up. Lightning's speed is 198mph in Cars 3 (Apparently because he's old) Which doesn't make much sense because Doc Hudson can still race the same way he did in Thomasville. So Lightning's age doesn't matter, especially since his parts were repaired. Lightning would've cooked Storm in Florida. But blame Disney.
I’d fight Jackson Storm
@@otb.devonte4276r u joking or r u joking
Storm’s is 245
Lighting may not have gotten an upgrade because he was getting older, it could be that the new model that storm was had it’s own separate upgrades and engine and there were no upgrades for a old model car like McQueen. Also lighting was getting old in total, he would be in his early - mid 40’s during the movie and that’s when most professional athletes do start slowing down and retiring except for a few that continue playing. Besides storm basically had the exact same mindset and personality as McQueen did during the first movie.
Lightning McQueen did get a upgrade at the end of the movie
Fr
Another car took his place.
@@RSTVNSSS but the new movie is coming,
@@turbsyy what new movie?
@@RSTVNSSS cars: on the road
The trailer came out.. u didn't see?
Here's my favorite theory, In real NASCAR cars you can't upgrade the car to make it faster, that's one of the main rules of NASCAR. So basically he is stuck like this.
Jackson is built with Lightweight Materials and has an Electric Motor to boost performance so even if Lightning could without replacing his entire body with a new one, the modifications would be limited.
I think many are missing the point as to what kind of car McQueen is. He’s a stock car from 06 and if I’m not mistaken stock cars are not allowed to be taken to the track with modifications or anything of that matter. He by the book had to race as is. And he, much like real cars, is only as good as the technology was back when he was first manufactured
something i noticed, was that in one part of the los angeles 500 race, mcqueen was going just as fast as storm so he probably went at least faster than 200mph. also im talking about the part after storm said enjoy your retirement
Lack of good plot. Would’ve been empowering if Lightning retired in his own terms and retired after winning.
They didn’t give Justice to Doc’s career. McQueen should’ve prove them that what they did to Doc was wrong.
Like Doc Hudson, they didn’t even give McQueen full chance to show that he still got more gas left in the tank.
It’s called stock car racing, they can’t do specific tweaks, they only can use their stock spec
Plot twist lighting mc queen gets a new pack a ultra plot armor which gives him ultra speed
"I am speed"
"I am plot armor"
I think getting an upgrade would make things too easy. Also, if Lightning got a ton of upgrades, that would drastically change the driving dynamic of him. Although it could be possible that they could get away with removing the restrictor plate on the engine which already makes 750hp which is 200 more than what today’s NASCARs make on superspeedways. But upgrading would probably be a rule violation. The thing about that is Lightning McQueen is a previous generation racer going against the latest gen, but in this case it’s more like a comparison between gen 4 NASCARs and today’s NASCARs with the lighter centerlock wheels, 6 speed sequential trans, etc.
In a nutshell, an upgrade would be too easy, probably isn’t plausible, and would probably be a rule violation.
Okay i have a major argument. Dusty in Planes upgraded himself 2 times in first movie (once on the beginning, second one After almost drowning) and we know it’s the same universe. So why McQueen couldn’t do that ? That just ducking up with fans right now, or making another character a main one couse everyone now thinks that men are weak or something. Like I get it we are equal as humans but that’s not an argument to ruin a whole movie just because we can.
PS: even if Cruz was a guy I would still hate this concept, I’m not sexist and I don’t want to offend anyone. Hope you understand.
Lot’s of love ladies and gentleman
Dusty and McQueen are different vehicles in different races. Planes can upgrade as much as they want. Cars can do so too but in McQueen's case, he's literally built like a NASCAR car. Further upgrades will downgrade him pretty much, lol.
"or making another character a main one couse everyone now thinks that men are weak or something. Like I get it we are equal as humans but that’s not an argument to ruin a whole movie just because we can."
Jesus you were going fine until you decided to take the most incel route possible.
Why are we discussing feminism in a movie about talking cars
Yup classic woke disney every movie has femnisim lgbt shit
@@nuraby_9228 its not incelish to notice a trend
1:40 This is not true. Hugo was pretending to need towing. Mater even realizes this when he says "That Lemon is being towed but he looks perfectly fine." Also, in the casino we see that he then drives perfectly fine showing that it was just to not appear suspicious in public/
All the veteran racers should have upgraded as next generation.
Or maybe he wanted to prove that he doesn't need to be upgraded
It's more realistic to ask why didn't he get a replacement motor that runs the same specs
It’s wasn’t even a trilogy for Lightning, it was just a duology which is Cars 1 and Cars 3 as Cars 2 serves more as a spinoff and as someone else in the comments said, Dusty from Planes got two upgrades which is the same world canonically. Cruz got a upgrade as well towards the end of the movie as her rear looked a lot more like the other gen cars. There was no excuse for Lighting to not have gotten an upgrade. This was mainly due to poor writing. It feels like they still owe us another movie as it only felt like a duology and not a trilogy and the whole retirement thing is bs as Lightning never learns and still continues to race at the end of the movie. The new hypercars should have had a different race instead of competing in the same race as the NASCARs like lightning.
I'd also like to say how in cars 2 he got some upgrades for the world cup but then got put back to stock in cars 3
Imagine if there was a cars 4 which releases In the future of the cars which cars can get upgraded, lightning mqueen can upgrade into a corvette stingray 2023
He’ll probably have the engine like a Scatpack or Trackhawk
@@otb.devonte4276 and new cars franchise happemimg in PIXAR !!
It like asking why MJ didn’t replace his old bones to play against Bron
mcqueen races on a stock car circuit, meaning you can’t do any upgrades. plus it would go against the movie’s message
The Theory 2 couldn't be true, you can upgrade a car since one of the racers in cars 2 was a working class car and upgraded until he made himself into the grand prix
Theory 2/3 is dumb, but theory is a theory. Theory 1 is true. As google says, “the actual reason is, because there wouldn't be a ton of plot if that was the solution the creators went for. It also wouldn't create the plot they were going for, which was Lightning trying to keep up with The Youth, realizing and accepting he couldn't, and passing the baton to the next generation.” That means, he could beat everyone of them, but because of the creator, wanted a better plot, and not McL just beating everyone, they thought giving the race number up, to the new racer, gives a better plot. So I think McL could definitely defeat them all, he just needed, better creators story writing.
watch "Cars 3 Deleted Scene - "The Storm Is Over"" McL, actually wins against storm, so basically, it proves, lighting could beat them all in the end.
All these crazy theories. The reason behind it is just that they needed a reason for him to retire, what is a good way to end the movies
McQueen vs Storm was like putting an 2006 modded Red 350z vs a stock 2018 corvette
he's old thats why, you can only upgrade a car to a limit, I think jackson storm is a PHEV explaining his rapid acceleration .
His body is too old to go faster than he was in his prime, its like the organs theory, when cars get older they cannot go as fast as they was in their earlier years, and that now Mcqueen is an adult car.
McQueen in world grand prix 💀
Tbh it's kinda unrealistic to have a Hypercar in a Nascar race because Nascar is a Stock racing series not a electric hyper racing series
Another theory is that it could be considered cheating. Maybe he isn’t allowed to?
Humans dont upgrade their body they get old. Same theory for cars here they dont want to upgrade the cars to keep it simple for the kids that lightning doc got older the The King crashed into his last race while retirement that means he also got older same with lightning he got older in cars 3.
Also when cars 1 came in there was rookie lightning for the king and in cars3 there was a attitude rookie for lightning which was storm
What it isnt excusable is that he wasnt able to compite with lower tier cars....
Lightning can defeat Storm without an issue. He defeated Francesco who is a F1 car.
Old mqueen can't but it's very possible
I was thinking the same thing after Cruze was upgraded
lets just say that the Cars in this universe drop in performance really fast. So if McQueen wanted to get faster/go as fast as his young days, he would need to have basically his entire body replaced (A full body transplant for a human). Maybe not just his engine was subpar, his axle, fluid chambers, pumps, radiators, heck maybe even his chassis is too outdated to handle faster speeds, so he would lose traction and control if he tried to go faster. We can also put in metal fatigue on vital structural parts, so if he wanted to get faster? He doesn't need a few upgrades, he needs to get a total overhaul. Basically in the racing world, his current body is as good as a totaled car and trying to fix it would be basically giving birth to a new Car.
That's exactly what I was thinking
They could of changed his spoiler & put a rear wing on
I think about it like this:
If you have a fully functional heart, but there's a donor with an even healthier heart, you wouldn't get the organ transplant
It's like that, Lightning is fine how he is, he's not in need of an upgrade
Edit: Nvm, if the rich one didn't upgrade, then it's not possible lol
Short answer: The soul is attached to the engine.
If these cars cant open the door
Then why they can open they machine kap
they have interiors
XR is correct, They *can* open their doors.
they're revealed to have interiors, as seen in Cars 2 when one of the cars has their eyes on the headlights rather than the windshields and you can see inside the car.
also, when various cars are damaged throughout the trilogy, their doors can be seen partially ajar from being bent/broken off.
dusty got upgrades after his crash
It would’ve only been right if McQueen finished that race I wanted him to do that wall trick on storm
the answer is quite simple: getting an upgrade is just like doping in Cars universe
My dumbass read jackson storm to "michael jackson" i miss him😭
An idea i came up with is that yes McQueen could get a small upgrade as he is at a major disadvantage on the field at the end.
However im thinking because his body, like his organs and stuff is not strong enough to handle going close to 220 like in cars 2.
So i think mechanically he could but at the risk of harming him otherwise
"I really doubt that is the case"
No that is exactly the case lmao
But McQueen didn’t even retire, he said he’s gonna keep racing
It could be because his body probably wouldn’t be made to handle the engine. But that could be debunked because of Cruz. So my only theory is that it would be illegal to upgrade yourself and your engine.
This is simple. Its compatibility. Mcqueen just wasnt compatible with the new tech.
Just saying in cars 2 when the one agent is being interrogated and he says "i can change an engine block" which should mean that he can replace the whole engine because to replace an engine block means removing the whole engine and if you can replace that important of a piece you should be able to put a better engine in also storms style or type car would be in a different class of racing
because nascar is stock racing car, I remember the rule upgrade is only on spoiler, not the engine.
Getting an upgrade is like getting a plastic surgery in cars.
fun fact: Mcqueen still races as a backup driver for Cruz
Source: idk some wiki
We don't want to see Lightning McQueen start his own dynasty! We want to see Cruz Ramirez shine! That's all!
Upgrade is possible from his engine not whole body ) for example you know that in cars 2 some bad cars blast other cars engine if car engine are blast then it's just a crush so the upgration was possible
He didn't get and upgrade because the difference between piston cup race and the world grand prix is that Nascar cannot get and upgrade it's part of the Nascar rule and the world grand prix your allowed to upgrade just for better grip and handline through tough terrains on the road
Shorter alternate answer: Race regulations.
In Cars On The Road Episode 3 Salt Fever, Mater's dors are open
I think he couldn't get an upgrade because either that technology didnt exist or the technology needed to make whole new bodies for cars is extremely rare
McQueen gets an upgrade hybrid and comes back cars 4 and becomes champion again
I think from movie pov cars are like humans.. same as we cant upgrade human... I mean the 3rd theory
If McQueen got the upgrade from Cars 2 we would had a chance to beat Storm because in Cars 2 McQueen beat Franchesco because McQueens Maximum speed is about 249MPH but when they went home he went back back from this old stock style...if McQueen kept thr style it would be a different story in Cars 3
What is prime mcqueens top speed, according to pixar?
220 mph
@@Dilshan____________________ over that
I think its simple. Just like real life, you can only upgrade a car so much. Its exactly why in GT racing, teams will upgrade to a completely new model every so many years. Eventually new parts just arent compatible with older designs.
I use GT as my example since McQueen is based off a corvette. A C6 is awesome buy even in its best state, it cant compete against the newer C8s.
Uh, he hasn't just a new engine. In the movie is explained he is trained differently
We all know lightning McQueen faster than Jackson strom when is prime time 250 mph
I know this is video is 1 year ago but watching Planes really gives you hope Cars 3 would go down that storyline but sadly it didn't. Before watching it I told myself I hope this doesn't go the teacher student route but it did
Either way im just salty that they didnt show any racing at the height of his career
Bro he doesn’t now anything about lightning
198 isn't faster enough neither McQueen and doc are modified for major enhancements to get a complete revamp McQueen can't be fast as storm but smarter than him regarding Cruz to defeat storm
I wonder if Jackson Storm will get a redemption arc, .. hopefully Cars 4 is about Ramirez and Storm, 2 sides of the coin aiming for the win.
One who is Righteous, the other looking for Redemption
McQueens engine is N/A so he could get a supercharger or a turbocharger to become faster than storm 😏
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That's not just it, Jackson has a extremely aerodynamic design including pronounced tear drop shape and made from materials including Carbon Fiber
if he get upgrate it would become sterotype of plot like any other sports movie plot so production wanted to be different
If McQueen is slow because he is old. then in cars1, doc hudson shouldn't have been able to 'practice' in the radiator springs dirt loop because he's going to 'die of old age' in a few years before cars2. Look at dinoco's King, he retired in a better way than McQueen with his midlife crisis. Also, Jackson storm and the "new gens" should've raced against lewis hamilton and jeff gorvette in GT racing rather than McQueen with those specs
Lightning McQueen didn’t need a new body style to go faster then storm he went faster then him it was just when he was younger
But in cars movie franchise said us that if car goes old then his speed was automatically redused it's some happens with lightning McQueen but in cars 3 lightning McQueen break his limit 2 times 1st when McQueen was crush before he was Cruse he break his limit that's why his tire was blast and 2nd time he break his limit when race with cruse he beat him 1 time but only for some secs
Why didn't he just change into his Piston Cup upgrade in Cars 2
Because the difference of Cars 3 and 2 is the racing category. The world grand prix didn't have rules that stop cars from upgrading. Cars 3 goes back to the Piston Cup which is the equivalent of Nascar. In Nascar it's illegal to upgrade. It's stock car racing.
@gabrielnedu6367 Thanks for the explanation I appreciate it buddy
To be honest, I don’t even think they can upgrade because the type of engine because McQueen might have a old engine and storm might have a new engine so how are they gonna upgrade because I can’t switch engines because their engine is pretty much them
Does Lightning Mcqueen Have a Speedometer With that he can track his own speed without the Simulator
Bru he could have gotten a upgrade remember in cars 2 with mater with the rocket boosters at the end it make him go faster so am sure McQueen could have got a upgrade
how are rocket boosters not cheating in a piston cup race?
the cars 2 race I get, because that was a world-class race (any type of vehicle, any type of propulsion, any type of equipment to win it) but I would think there would be rules against that in piston cups
I have one argument in Tokyo mater they did get upgraded so why can’t McQueen because it could help with airflow,aerodynamics,downforce and boost from cars1 from the tuners he had nos and snot rod had a clear customised supercharger.We humans can’t input ai technology inside us to make us better so why would cars be able to and in cars 1 didn’t doc preform surgery or smth on the police man sorry I forgot his name so if the cars have organs why can’t he just get surgery?
It should be completely safe to get an upgrade if they manufacture each other in factories my evidence is in cars two where they sit or manufacturer shop making us
The fact that McQueen didn't upgrade for plot reasons makes Cars 3 the worst animated sequel of all time. I have fond childhood memories loving Secret of NIMH 2 Timmy to the rescue, An American Tail Mystery of the night monster, Cars 2, Shrek the third, Charlottes web 2, Fox and the hound 2 and a few hated Land Before time sequels, but Ford Cars 3.
Obvoiusly jackson storm is just upgraded thats why he won
Young mcqueen beats storm he beat fransisco who had a 220 miles per hour speed and storm with 214 miles per hour so that makes young mcqueen faster than storm
@@SyedAli-gl7jq fr jackson is just in his prime while mcqueen prime has ended thats why they get Cruz to change him cause shes also in her prime idk if her name was Cruz the yellow car
Jackson isn’t just an “upgraded” vehicle, he’s a completely new type of vehicle altogether that just outperforms the older types; in body shape, engine/drivetrain design, efficiency, acceleration factor, friction, everything.
Part of me feels bad for McQueen, but remember, _this is how the King felt_ when Lightning was brand new and racing against him. He was an older Plymouth model, and was simply not able to keep up with the spiffy, streamlined new lightning McQueen Racecar.
He's a Hybrid and always has been, he's even made from materials like Carbon Fiber.
What about the tuner cars they have upgrades?
prime mcqueen > prime storm