There was also a lot of reference to Plato and his Cave allegory where people trapped inside a cave don't know that the images they are seeing aren't reality but shadows of objects. This allegory also includes multiple layers of reality before you are able to escape the cave which reinforces the impression that the main character hasn't escaped the simulation at all.
My suspicion is that the whole show will be about trying to find the "Base" layer of reality...and if it even exists. Essentially trying to solve the simulation hypothesis that once a civilization reaches a certain technology level, they will create simulations to better understand the nature of reality, thus there will be more simulations than reality. Therefor you are more likely to be in a simulation.
Ty for this video. I got also a couple of wild takes: To the Eyk - Key debate: Notice that in the room with the many screens, where the protagonists are being watched at the screen of Eyk is in the middle, as in "its the most important screen to observe". To the Prometheus name. So as you said in Greek Prometheus gave fire to the humans, although the gods didn't like it. That is why they forced Prometheus to be bounded to a rock till eternity and they send a bird to feed on his liver (Because he's a god he cannot die but it still hurts). That may be a metaphor for the endless pain the passengers have to endure.
Thank you for pointing out the hand thing. I did not notice that. You missed the mural in the dining hall. It is indeed a compostitum of different statues and similar artwork. For example on the bottom left we see Hercules wrestling with Cerberus; this statue is located in Vienna. Top right is Prométhée enchaîné which is located in the Louvre in Paris. In the upper left we obviously have a depiction of Zeus but I still did not figure out from which art piece he was taken (maybe it's Jupiter or Tinia instead?). On the bottom right we see a female figure from the Pergamon altar that is often identified as the goddes Nyx, one of the muses, one of the moirai, or the goddess Persephone. The last one seems most interesting to me since this would tie all four images together in their relationship to one another and in their relation to the underworld. Meaning they represent Henry, his children Kiaran and Maura, and his adversary, Daniel. Speaking of relationships it should be noteworthy that the configuration of a maddening mother with three children, the love triangle, the betraying servant and others are iterated several times across the main characters.
The issue at hand is that the first season apparently discusses the question "What constitutes reality?". But that is not how Jantje described the show. The central question is "What does it mean to be human?". Which allows for several other observations and conclusions.
I find it extremely interesting that Maura’s brother calls her Henry She explains that her middle name is Henrietta therefore that’s the nickname that her brother affectionately calls her. However that’s also her father’s name which makes me wonder what this really means?? It’s probably not a coincidence so are she and her father one and the same person?
Lol ..please its not KEYERAN . maura's brother name is kerian you pronoune it wrong.its an Irish name. During the show her husband mentions maura is an Irish name but she's Scottish so perhaps there's an Irish meaning.
When's season 2. Nothing worse than a great ending then having to wait. It happened with my fav ever sci fi show Raised by wolves I was sick they cancelled that the fools
The end where everyone was connected up to this machine. Reminded me of something else with a very similar scene. I just don't know where I've seen it. Maybe in a game/movie/series. But im 100% sure I've seen it somewhere.
My initial reaction to both Dark and 1899 was the same: mannn, I'm not smart enough to follow this. 😂 And yet, you get drawn in and by mid-season you just follow whatever logic the writers have and enjoy the ride whilst your brain gets scrambled.
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There was also a lot of reference to Plato and his Cave allegory where people trapped inside a cave don't know that the images they are seeing aren't reality but shadows of objects. This allegory also includes multiple layers of reality before you are able to escape the cave which reinforces the impression that the main character hasn't escaped the simulation at all.
That is an awesome catch! This is gonna be one of those shows where people find new hidden details years from now!
My suspicion is that the whole show will be about trying to find the "Base" layer of reality...and if it even exists. Essentially trying to solve the simulation hypothesis that once a civilization reaches a certain technology level, they will create simulations to better understand the nature of reality, thus there will be more simulations than reality. Therefor you are more likely to be in a simulation.
Agreed.
For Dark, it was Quantum Entanglement and Multiverse - this seems like an attempt to take on Nick Bostrom's Simulation Hypothesis.
Maybe we already are in a simulation, discussing a show about a simulation... 👀
Simulation bore
Ty for this video. I got also a couple of wild takes:
To the Eyk - Key debate: Notice that in the room with the many screens, where the protagonists are being watched at the screen of Eyk is in the middle, as in "its the most important screen to observe".
To the Prometheus name. So as you said in Greek Prometheus gave fire to the humans, although the gods didn't like it. That is why they forced Prometheus to be bounded to a rock till eternity and they send a bird to feed on his liver (Because he's a god he cannot die but it still hurts). That may be a metaphor for the endless pain the passengers have to endure.
Thank you for pointing out the hand thing. I did not notice that.
You missed the mural in the dining hall. It is indeed a compostitum of different statues and similar artwork. For example on the bottom left we see Hercules wrestling with Cerberus; this statue is located in Vienna.
Top right is Prométhée enchaîné which is located in the Louvre in Paris.
In the upper left we obviously have a depiction of Zeus but I still did not figure out from which art piece he was taken (maybe it's Jupiter or Tinia instead?).
On the bottom right we see a female figure from the Pergamon altar that is often identified as the goddes Nyx, one of the muses, one of the moirai, or the goddess Persephone.
The last one seems most interesting to me since this would tie all four images together in their relationship to one another and in their relation to the underworld.
Meaning they represent Henry, his children Kiaran and Maura, and his adversary, Daniel.
Speaking of relationships it should be noteworthy that the configuration of a maddening mother with three children, the love triangle, the betraying servant and others are iterated several times across the main characters.
The issue at hand is that the first season apparently discusses the question "What constitutes reality?". But that is not how Jantje described the show. The central question is "What does it mean to be human?". Which allows for several other observations and conclusions.
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I find it extremely interesting that Maura’s brother calls her Henry She explains that her middle name is Henrietta therefore that’s the nickname that her brother affectionately calls her. However that’s also her father’s name which makes me wonder what this really means?? It’s probably not a coincidence so are she and her father one and the same person?
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The brother's name is pronounced keyren.
I wish Netflix would commit to a few series.
Lol ..please its not KEYERAN . maura's brother name is kerian you pronoune it wrong.its an Irish name.
During the show her husband mentions maura is an Irish name but she's Scottish so perhaps there's an Irish meaning.
Our bad, we're just obsessed with KEYS and SECRETS we see them everywhere! 🔑
My bad! ❤
When's season 2. Nothing worse than a great ending then having to wait. It happened with my fav ever sci fi show Raised by wolves I was sick they cancelled that the fools
The end where everyone was connected up to this machine. Reminded me of something else with a very similar scene. I just don't know where I've seen it. Maybe in a game/movie/series. But im 100% sure I've seen it somewhere.
@@jennifer7953 No and I've seen it recently. But thanks overall.
@@ImmortaleVALO also raised by wolves.
Alice in borderland fake ending
It has this LOST vibe while you wach it.
I'm just gonna say "Not Penny's Boat" ✋🖊️
Ciaran is pronounced, Key-ran not ky-ran.
My initial reaction to both Dark and 1899 was the same: mannn, I'm not smart enough to follow this. 😂
And yet, you get drawn in and by mid-season you just follow whatever logic the writers have and enjoy the ride whilst your brain gets scrambled.
I think many people avoided watching this series because it looked like a Titanic spin off.
Said no one ever
@@KIRA-h1w ???
I made it 10 minutes in before the wokery turned me off forever.
Small brain activities
what wokery didn't notice anything