Largest Shootout EVER! 2022 450 Motocross Shootout with 12 bikes! - Dirt Bike Magazine
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- Опубліковано 17 кві 2022
- #dirtbike #motocross #offroad #motorcycle
There’s never been a time like this. In the past, the choice for a premium motocross bike was limited to four brands. Now, with so many Special Editions in the mix, the decision is overwhelming. KTM, Husqvarna and GasGas have standard models as well as factory replicas. Kawasaki has the original KX450 along with the KX450SR. Honda actually has three different 450 motocross bikes in the line; the original CRF450R is offered alongside the high-end CRF450RWE and the more affordable CRF450RS. Altogether, we have 12 bikes gathered at once. There are even more out there. We couldn’t obtain a TM MX450Fi or a standard GasGas MC450F because of availability issues. Normally, a 12- bike comparison is impossible. Gathering them is hard enough; testing them with any degree of accuracy is worse. But this year we had a one-year head start. The standard editions of 2022 are predominantly unchanged, so we’re already familiar with their strengths and weaknesses. That leaves us to determine where the Special Editions fit in. We expect them to be better and, for the most part, they are. But are they improved enough to displace the bikes we choose as the top 450s of 2021? In the end, we can’t rank every single bike in a fabricated countdown. For the conclusion, we have selected the podium finishers. The rest can be sorted using our ratings in seven different metrics:
Peak power
Power Delivery
Cornering
Stability
Suspension
Comfort
Value
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That's the best shoot out I've ever seen. The narrator was brilliant . All the stuff we want to know and nice and easy to digest. Great sound and cinematography
1:45 1985 CR hanging up on the wall is still the best of the bunch absolute work of art
Totally unbiased testing, it's just a coincidence that the test riders perfectly match their favorite bike.... Its just another coincidence nobody wore yellow that day.
I did notice that the guys riding the kawis and yamahas literally have the brands on their jerseys,
The RMZ450 is still a good bike. Try riding one you may be quite impressed.
I want a '22 Kawasaki KX250 or KTM 250SXF. Now onto my local dealers! -Ohio
@@Davido50 I couldn't tell you the difference between last place of last yr compared to the winner of this yr. I don't buy new bikes, I usually wait atleast 3yrs. I have no doubt the Suzuki would blow my mind.
@@Davido50 DUDE! Im in Ohio and I’m trying to find a 2020 kx250. It’s been tuff.
YZ ALL DAY! I;ve had my 2019 YZ450FX supermoto since 2018 and have yet to even check the valves and it rides better than it did new.
Hard to beat Yamaha try a new one even better!!
Yamaha's are known for superior reliability . I had a YZ80 and raced it for four years , never needed any maintenance at all . ZIP , ZERO it was OUTSTANDING.
Great shootout & comprehensive breakdown! *Watched this 2×.. i enjoyed the great comparison so much* . #KTM #Kawasaki
As a street rider only, it seems to me that any 450 is more than the majority of riders need. Those of you that can actually get the max out of these things are incredible riders. Much respect.
Facts. I love the 250s but I constantly feel like I am straining the Motor. The 450 has all the power I’ll ever need and dose really great at almost everything I do
That's because you ride street only... talentless 🤣 many peoples can get full potential out of a 450 on a MX track where it is supposed to be.
@@rapscallion3421 I disagree. Even the pros say the 450s have too much power... Martin, Sexton, and Tomac say it all the time. to use nearly 70 hp on a track is impossible. It's all about maintaining power. I ride a 2022 FC450 because it's nice to have the power but there is no way anyone is ringing out a 450 like they are a 250 searching for more.
@@bryceketzel619 it's a lot of bike for sure but it is 💯 used to the fullest during the nationals 70 hp in a arena is not great but those guys still need more than a 250 even for the arena
@@rapscallion3421 bro the 250 class had faster lap times on several occasions this outdoor season. look it up
Finally the RMZ wins the shootout.
This is the best shootout ever. Whole explanation corresponding to the reality. Even though I'm keen to the Honda bikes, you pointed the right arguments as power, torque, standard lacks and bla bla, so once more, great job guys.
Great review. Thanks again. I love all of them.
Suzuki got the carb jetting dialed on the 22 so it’s gotta be in the top 3
Bottom 3**
@@ParkerK127 obviously your not very good with humour
@@ParkerK127 that went 3 miles over your head, hey buddd?
Well produced. I think people just want an 00's bike that's been slimmed down with a button. Air forks, reverse cylinders and Honda's constant design confusion (ever since 2009) just leaves the door wide open for the green workhorse.
I'm a KTM fanboy, but if I were to pick a Japanese bike it would be the Kawi. Especially the SR
@@MXJEFF94 I have both KTM and KX, the KX is older, totally different rides, but I have to admit if I had to choose one it would be the KX
Yamaha has been absolutely dominating though. Most of the complaints are really silly with Yamaha cause they know the power and suspension is unmatched
The rmz 450 is that ginger step brother from a council estate, but when you get to know him, he's actually alright and you wish you wasn't such a snob I the first place...🤣🤣🤣 can we all really get every single bit out of these bikes....90% of us no we can't
ive always been a little bias to Suzuki's because that was my first clutch bike as a kid
Yup that's true it's not about being able to get every single bit out of those bikes.. it's about which bike gets you over the finish line fastest.
@@MxRider721 Not for all of Mx riders, most weekend warriors a suzuki would be more than enough, hell I’ve seen a kid on a RMZ shred everyone at the open pro class at a local race at the end of the day if you can ride well you’ll do good on anything
@@pietrodelia2318 yeah thats because the rider has more skill not because the bike is better. Racing is about being first to the finish line and which bike gets you there first is the best bike and suzuki is way behind the curve. Kid would be faster on a different bike
Suzuki #1
Would love to see a dyno comparison between the CRF450R-S and RWE.
Let’s go Kawi!!! 🤘🤘
I love this new format. I love the star ranking, weight, and price. Excellent!
LOVE the last minute - with sounds of each.
I have the 2021 yz450f and being 6’4” I’ve come to love the wider front end. Gives me plenty of “leg room”
This is a great shootout! Really glad to see the special editions included here!
Nice selection! But where's the Beta and Sherco bikes?
dont care what anybody says my bike is the best ,my ol man bought a brand new 1982 PE400 Suzuki and it got handed down to me and its never ever let me down ,i occasionaly commute to work on it and ride it off road on weekends ,people laugh at me when i take it on the trails but it goes everywhere the new flash ones go ,one day ill upgrade but ill never get rid of my PE
That's a sweet bike, I wouldn't be laughing at you. Got a 1974 Suzuki ts185 enduro ...its lots of fun to ride. The new 450s are insane fast, and no doubt very fun to ride. But too much $$ and all the un-needed tech BS traction control and launch control. Give me a man's bike!
@@mydogsnameistablecloth1736 hey thanks mate thjats nice to say.we both have a couple of ol classic Suzukis ,take care
Hell yeah. I want a PE175 some day
As an ex pro rider from 45 years ago, I'd say you guy's are damn lucky! Spoiled brats! Lol. Would like to here "the man's" take on his 70's works bike to today's current crop. 😀
Come on, you know better. "The Man", greatly helped develop today's bikes and has done so, I think since he was born, or even conceived. :)
That Man, (and Grant Langston IMO, with enough middle finger to the EPA), should be running the MX division of the AMA with 100% authority.
"The Man" is getting old, but everything he touched, has turned to gold. There will never be another Man, like Roger DeCoster in this sport. He was ending his racing just as I was introduced to the sport by Hannah. We are alike you and I. We know greatness when we see it. I bet you don't see a lot left either.
At least we experienced the best era of the sport, before the 1986 production rule. The muscle car era was the same, affordable, fun, interesting opportunity that grew like a weed,---------before the EPA.
Also, back in the 70's and 80's, the Magazines would do a shoot out, (MXA was always best for MX racers), and if you read them, you knew what you were buying pretty well. I bought a slightly used 2019 YZ250 2-stroke thinking it would be a lot better than my last bike, (97 KX250), because of the magazine praise. It turned out to be the worst bike set up stock that I ever bought. I can make it my best though, (and am doing so), which is another advantage we have over the bike mag testers of today.
I did not watch this test. I already know which way to spin the clickers. :)
@@EarthSurferUSA still have the first motocross action mag! Got the 125 Elsinore around that time. Was a step up to the 125 husky. Those were great day's for sure, everything seemed possible.
yeah bring back 2 strokes let's see these guys ride 500cc 2 stokes thay,d shit there pants
@@EarthSurferUSA I had the privilege at the age of 16 to attend a one day motocross school by Roger and Gerrit up here in Canada! I don't think I learned much that day because I was in the presence of "god" in a sense.
With Gerrit riding and Roger explaining it was surreal.
It was the day after the Canadian gp. What dreams are made of. You had to have lived those time's to understand the magnitude of it. Also that it was the pinnacle of motocross at any point ever.
Was also lucky enough the next year to race in the first ever supercross race in 1977 at the Olympic stadium in Montreal Canada. To walk out in front of 30,000+ fans was mind blowing to this kid! Didn't make the final, fell well running 4th in qualifier. Jim Ellis won on a Can am! Still get goosebumps!
Suzuki changed the clicker settings on the forks. Straight to the top of the leader board after those mods!
so sad no shootout has a TM, they are great bikes and deserve more air time. I want to see one compete with other brands
They asked to not be in
@@DirtBikeMagazine any idea why?
@@DirtBikeMagazine where are Betas and Shercos? I am sure they have 450 mx models 👍
This is a great shootout got all the bikes different editions I hope things stay just like this😀
Talks of Triumph comin to the party next year.
I wonder if they will be gas or electric?
It’s a good question, but I’ll be pretty upset if there electric.
Suzuki any day
Hopefully I’m not dating myself but there was nothing I looked forward to more than getting the weekly edition of cycle news in full print .
11 Great bikes, all vs the 1 best. The YZ. No duplicate brands. Just pure bike.
Yamaha has always been the most bulletproof and most reliable brand .
This narrator again! This guy makes me happy.
Yamaha for the win 🦾
my son rides only KX450 since 2009. has suspension work done, a fancy exhaust.
Fans and every kids favourite… always remains THE YZ
That was awesome!
Another great shoot out…..like most other power sports machines…..the best bet could come down to the best dealer to support the machine as well as the rider
Nice shootout. It would be even better if you make a MX1 and a MX2 shootout. MX1 including 450s, 350s and 250s 2 strokes and MX2 including 250 and 125 or 150 2 strokes. Please make it happen, it would be the ultimate motocross shootout!
Great test guy's.
theres beta rieju derbi ,sherco, aprilia also swm and ajp but trail bikes, spanish portguese
Awesome content 👍
15 years ago KTM was hardly even considered for a 450 shootout. Now they have five "different" bikes in a 450 shootout... sweet mercy.
and they are all still overpriced junk. the pros can't even ride them.
Take the green one!
Can you tell me how all this bikes are upgrades from previous models, specialy the Austrian bikes when they are all heavier than the 2017-18 models (weight at 220 pounds then) when all racing teams spend lots of money on Titanium parts to make stock bikes lighter, power almost the same if not less as everyone can see in every years dynocharts and suspension that doesn't matter cause almost every rider nowadays send the suspension for revalving and personal settings????
I think I'll stick to my 2017 fc 450
There all good just pick what you like and ride in to the Sun set....
Kawi owners gotta feel so tuff rn lol. I’m just glad Yamaha got podium even though i knew it would
how come the pros in MC and SC don't ride stock bikes like the field fillers buy and race ?? that way it would prove which bike you buy is the best
wild how things change, back in the day the fastest bike nearly always won, i quess they figured out what diminishing returns with horsepower numbers does to lap times.
love KX450
Yz gang 🔵
👇🏾
TEAM GREEN'S 450SR for the WIN! and just the best looking i think
Team green baby!!
I heard every ktm comes with a complimentary dildo seat...
No thanks. I think i'll stick with suzuki
Imagine hating on the bikes that every good and pro rider rides, just to say the underpowered, ugly suzuki is better, bro you sad
@@__mayo1802 imagine shitting on suzuki because you think its "ugly" and "underpowered" and being a fanboy of ktm because "all pro riders" ride em.. LOL
@@xtiddie how tf am i a fanboy? i like all bikes, and if amazing riders ride em so much, its saying something, doesn't it? and why you get all mad that i talk shit bout suzuki? they literally make the worst mx bikes compared to the rest, but you dont say nothing bout the guy shitting on ktm, yall sad bro
@@__mayo1802 you act like it would matter which one you were to ride, I would bet my left nut you don't have a quarter of the potential needed to ride one of these around your backyard. The Suzuki would toss you like the salad you are.
Where to buy this seat asking for friend
Great review as always
Kawi are once again the winner, so that makes it 4 years in a row I think, they best not change it for 23 at this rate, and I’m so happy to own one, it will go down as one of the best models ever made!
TEAM GREEN!
I have seen two kx450's with broken frames
@@derekdreke4990 Where and what year
@@derekdreke4990 They have won every ones shoot outs! was it the Sub frame?
Nope
I'm a Yamahah brand for life nomatter the product they make it's always top notch quality. if I didnt choose yamaha MadKaw would be my next choice
espetáculo show topppppp
Is there anyway that I could see what the riders think of the KX450SR?
So many years you complained honda was low on power now they said f u and gave you 60 and you guys cry its too much. Whimps
They feel like they have to cry about something
For reaI, Honda is the most powerfuI yet most underated brand ever, they have top tier horsepower wether its motocross, motogp or formuIa 1.
Yamaha monster energy edition?
What about the Monster Energy Edition YZ 450F ?
Son una verdadera chula quien nodeciaria andar una chula de esas
TM ?!
Definitely could've done without all that background music. Rather have just heard the bikes. But good info
No
I love the two stroke looking pipes.
Yamahas 👑
Where's the 2 strokes??
Honda & Yamaha smokes them all! NO BULL!
How to buy.. Even an.old dirt bike sir
The Suzuki is still the best looking.
It's funny how things have changed over the last 10 years it used to be kawi was the engine king and honda was the handling king along with Suzuki with the other bikes being somewhere in the middle of that now it's flipped honda has a mean motor and kawi is all about handling and now the Austrian bikes with used to be 20lbs lighter have only gotten heavier in the last 10 yrs
In today's world where every one wants it now props to Dirt Bike for waiting for all the bikes! Guys calling bias are just upset their particular color didn't win. Lol
All the bikes these days are good ,most mere mortals can’t use these bikes to their true potential ,pick your favourite colour we are living good times till electric takes over.
don't usually also have yo include 350's in a 450 Class shoot out?
Monster energy missi'n
Could have also added a Yamaha Yz450FX😂
Im surprised how the husky or KTM didn't win
As good as they all are,for me,it would boil down to whos the closest dealor,honestly
Im 6 foot, 170lbs. What kind of bike should I get for my first one?
A 250
Yz 125 learn to ride it fast and you will fly on anything you ride.
Any 125
If you've never ridden a dirtbike before, get a 250 trail bike. Better to learn on a shit bike and upgrade than to kill yourself on a fast bike
fantic, chrisitini usa, atk usa used to make, bimota redbadeg kawi
So many say kx. i keep saying not sure what to get for in 23 - I sold
My yzf 450 21 model felt to cramped I’m 6,1 245. It was going to be kx or ktm gurus say ktm - I’m not a racer just like free riding hitting jumps on and off track and bush But allot saying the kx!!
I have both - the KTM is a little taller, but I prefer the KX ride...you cant lose with any of them
@@inspectorluv would love to have both haha how tall are you and what’s your weight
@@adamrochester1 - 6ft, 180-ish ... KX is older. The KTM is great too, but I just prefer the KX a little bit more, both are good.
Cramped? I’m 6’4” and I prefer the wider front end of the bike it suits my long legs
@@i8_ash_quack769 on what bike bro
maybe needed bigger bars and taller seat
Good luck finding one, if u do expect to pay top dollar for it
I only want a 450 so I can go to the moon
Will take the Suzuki all day.
cheap also :)
2-stroke?
2 stroke MX bikes are dead, they can't compete. They rock in the woods and trails though
God, I wish the didn't ignore sport quads. we are in the second dark ages of atvs.
Yeah and sadly this time I fear that they're gone for good.
nt really egl ,drr apex, adly aeon make them
thanks guys
I just don't understand Suzuki I don't understand why they can't put an electric start in their darn bikes. I would for sure buy a Suzuki if they had an electric start, a lot of my buddies that I talked to say the same thing, us older guys absolutely enjoy the electric start. All the other bikes have it but not Zuzuki man are they stubborn. I guarantee they would sell a ton of bikes if they would just add the electric start they would make more money and aren't they in the business to make money?
KX just needs to look better!!! It’s a selling point! Almost no one uses the full potential of these bikes. So… looks matter!!!
I fell away from moto for yrs and have only been back around for about a yr now. Sucks seeing Suzuki piddle out bikes and have almost no representation, I always felt super comfortable and fast in their bikes
How were you able to fit in a Suzuki dirt bike? Must of been a tight fit once you were in there
I'll take the worst one off your hands, i dont even care what color it is lmao
Watching SX noticed KAWASAKI has overheating problems when raced hard by a PRO !
what a stupid comment
Kawi bought a lot of ad space this year huh? Biased as hell 😂
So that's where all the stock went.
So yeah your going to pick the bike with all the aftermarket shit on it and say it's the best. And then put the slow bike second I don't get it🤦
Put all that shit on the Yamaha and see who wins😂
Cool, any of them would destroy . If they were on a mission
Eli tomac could win a championship on any one of them. Not the bike, it’s the rider
RMZ is best
It really is
Best if you like to come in last place.
tm sherco.. reiju ajp swm make enduros not mx sx also chiniese ones
Akrapovic is pronounced 'ah-crop-uh-vich.' It's Slovenian
na none of them are any good because there not big bore 2 strokes . bring back 2 stokes thay are real the motocross bikes.
I rode a newer kx 450,back to back,both stock,against my 450 sx ktm.hands down the ktm smoked it.speedwise
Great to see all the b.s isn't in the video.
Suzuki are pulling out of MotoGP, seems they don't care about road or MX bikes anymore. Shame really.
Do you really need 12" of suspension travel today when there are no bumps on the tracks? The bikes are a bit tall, don't ya think?
If you are under 5'11" tall, (like over half the population), the next great set up is lower suspension that works well on the smooth tracks, and can land from the jumps that everybody is good at. Now let us see all that vid of you guys getting on those bikes! Notice we don't see that often folks? :)
I say a good suspension tuner has some real opportunity here, (dropping up to 1.5 inches from the suspension), because corner speed will improve, when the tracks are baby smooth. :)
And you would stop dropping your bikes at a dead stop. Your not showing that film either. :)
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