@@eunyju7284Do you mean “who among us is not a serial child rapist?” Sounds different when you say exactly what it is, doesn’t it. God can forgive any repentant sinner. Doesn’t mean they should be leading a church. Is this hard for you to understand?
@@digitalwasabi2 he didn't rape her. He has resigned and not leading a church. I'm not supporting what he did but let us be careful to throw the 'first' stone.
Socialism abolishes religion & undermines all rule of law Do not be deceived by false teachers who are in our church only to be wolves & destroy the shepherds & flock Revelation is the revealing who Christ is He alone forgives man’s sins ! Man cannot do enough works or deeds for salvation Faith Triumphs Cxl the apostates - reclaim the religion of our founders- The Faith ✝️🕊
@@paulgunter3475It was serial child rape. He should have been in prison. Is that too “judgmental” for you? Do you believe it in unbiblical to expose evil acts committed by church leaders and to remove them from the ministry? If so I refer you to the Apostle Paul and his letters to the churches. You will be enlightened.
People keep in mind not every Pastor does this. There are good pastors that are godly pastors! Not every bad apple is in the cart! Just like anywhere else there’s always someone that’s not good not just in churches! Not making excuses for this Pastor, but we need to be praying for him and his family for God to set him free. He is still God child but he is bound up and he needs to be free for his freedom. Pray for the people at Gateway pray for the victims.😮❤
@@lorenzoquintero5195 Judgement from God is different than grace from God through his son Jesus. Both co exist. 🙏🏼✝️ prayers and support for each and every victim 🩷🙏🏼
@@lorenzoquintero5195 Yes, Lorenzo, He does indeed forgive -- but only as a result of genuine repentence and grief over one's sins. That means Robert Morris would have to not only repent and pay justly for what he did to that girl, he would have to genuinly and publicly repent for the false gospel and the heresies he's been preaching and teachiung for decades. I truly pray that he would, but I won't hold my breath waiting for that to happen.
Yes God forgives please don't think you can just do what ever you want in the body of crist, Can you see what happens when you make A calling a career, and so shall God expose all , God is a God of justice
@@loriwilson-n9tOne is either a sinner or a new creation, according to scripture. Humans still struggle with the sin that so easily besets them, repenting when they "miss the mark". True repentance yields Godly sorrow and a turning away from. Hebrews 10:26-27, "For if we sin willfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remains no more sacrifice for sin, But a certain fearful looking for judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries." Keep reading. This is sin and also a crime, punishment is deserved. Read and study the New Testament/Covenant, you've missed a lot, the whole counsel of God is needed.
@JewandGreek The protesting referred to in the 3 minute, 16 second video on which I commented. Did you watch the video? There you will see why people are protesting outside of the church.
@@jahnjohn8849🤷♀️ 🤷♀️ 🤷♀️ 🤷♀️ 🤷♀️ What difference does that make? I'd rather stand against it than do nothing! Maybe you see nothing wrong with Robert Morris's behavior. That's your issue.
Abusers/assaulters do not operate in a vacuum. Let's face it millionaire Robert Morris has the resources to avoid any problems retiring in comfort. Once this bad PR dies down will there be any actual meaningful systemic changes?
@@loriwilson-n9tthis isn't about forgiveness at this point, it is about justice for a CRIME. Forgiveness comes from true repentance, Godly sorrow. For actions that break laws there are consequences for ALL.
😢the congregation is being thought to forgive but that doesn’t mean accepting this abuse! ❤” how the mighty are falling “ and their will be more bc God is tiered of all this mess of pastors being immoral 😢
If you find this amusing you may be indoctrinated & live by sight & not by Faith For sin always hurts innocent people, outside of God’s circle of grace Christ is our strong defense ☎️ The harvest is great but the workers are few 🆕🏃🏿🏃🏿🏃🏿🏃🏿 Put on the new man Fight the good fight of Faith with no regrets 🙌🕊 He relies on the few faithful Socialists work case by case! They keep list of clergy professionals business owners & educators & more who they keep statistics Yet if we are wise we learn God forbids idle talk & idle thinking & schemes of any kind! Our victory is His victory We see the plight of the masses, it’s heart wrenching. Suppressing the truth claims about God & His Son only produces more bond people. Discover the Book of Life 📕🗝🚪 Proverbs 11.30, Psalm 51, Hebrews 12.2, Acts 1.8 🆕salvation will bring happiness & turn them around. Satan is not your master! He is only a tempter! A liar! Seeking whom he may devour & it’s all through deceit 🗑lies Pick up your own cross Scripture says the enemy is the one who calls God a liar Stealth advocacy & targeting opposition is Alinsky’s rules for radicals to silence you & render you the tail God made us the head *Do nothing to offend the church God wants to do something new Proverbs 1.7 & 23
1:06 If Morris was an 'evangelist on the road with his wife' when he molested Cindy in her home, where was the wife when it happened? In bed alone, not knowing where her husband was? Was she a quasi-enabler? Please don't tell me Cindy's parents 'looked the other way' for 5 years, which is a long time to not figure this out. Is this another Jeffrey Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell case? No sooner is one case finally out of the news, here comes another one. I suspect there's a lot more to this story than anyone has heard so far.
What needs to happen is a change in the law. If US legal system wasn’t so messed up he would be at least arrested and investigated by now. The elders of the church should have taken action instead of allowing Morris to resign, this is what happens when an individual sets up a church and there is no system of polity within that fellowship. It is one of the patterns we see in these so called mega churches, the leaders have no proper systems in place they are subject to. I pray for this woman she has been speaking out for over 40 years about this, may God bring healing, strength and restoration. I also pray for Morris that he will repent before it is too late, he seems to still be trying to minimise and cover his back. Lord have mercy on us
I was married to an extremely abusive pastor 30 years and no ond held him accountable fir raping me with a battery charger. I was told to be more submitful He had affairs and manipulated women for money He left me penniless for a wealthy woman to advance his ministry then played the victim role I was labeled unredeemable because I would not lie when the school sent someone about the abuse to our home It has taken years to work through the trauma I lived daily. He is seen as a perfect pastor because of the miracles that happen on mission trips.... Abused sexually emotionally physically so bad i couldn't walk for days mentally and spirituality the A/G church organization did nothing to correct him or confront him
This elder is Tra Wilbanks, CEO of Anchor Investments, a reported family-owned and operated investment firm with a focus in the manufacturing, distribution, and services market. Website says, "Helping owners unlock their equity, we work with companies predominantly located in the south with revenue levels of at least $5 million." Funny how big money always seems to be around the church leadership.
Remember when ravi board did an independent investigation on him once he passed the truth came out and this independent investigation will do the same for that pastor
Laws need to change! The statute of limitations in Texas changed but is not retroactive. Some states have amended this and Cindy's lawyer is trying to have this done across the board. Petition your legislators!
The last days are here . Zero morals. Hidden secrets are now coming out. What was done in secret will be shouted from roof tops. May God heal the victim. We pray for Robert to repent but retribution is what can heal him. He should have time to reflect and do the needful.
Why is she all of sudden saying this now?? After how many years?? Why didn't the parents do something about it back then?? Seems to me there is alot more to this story than what's being said..
Obviously you've never been there. Victims especially children are traumatized.... blamed and shamed..... exactly what you're continuing with here. 🤦. Took her to age 35 to even ,"process" what happened to her!!!!!!
I'm not a money hungry person...me and my family share what we've got... often... whether we've got a little or a lot..... But admit, first thing I thought when this story broke was..... I would want my money back!!! Funny, preachers can screech and scream about how all the parishioners are sinners (for lack of tithing or whatever).... when they're the biggest sinners of all!! Sort of like when his really good friend/pastor was sternly warning about adulterers going to hell (why yes, it's true...the Bible does say this!!). but while he was busy screeching and fist pounding..."he" was in his own affair. 😵💫 I wonder if certain evil spirits, especially of the lust kind, fell upon this country during 1980s on.... (end days).....or was it always like this? 💁
Good morning again, wow pathetic speech because the elders were aware of the situation because the plaintiff made them aware during the incident! Wow, hypocrisy!!
If you elders place his son James Morris as pastor, we know you arent sincere. And that goes for the son Josh too. And his daughter Elaine and husband.
How did he think he cpuld continue on with yhos lie how could he preach thd gospel knowing he had this hsnging over his head his wife and kids he should be ashamed of himself
Anyone who fell into the obsolete teaching that tithes are still in effect never studied their bible correctly, and fell into tithing into this church its on you. Keeping a record of everyone that tithed and didnt which is what this church did goes against what Jesus taught dont let your left hand know what your right hand is doing. This is a classic example of a non Jew gentile leader teaching the tithe, an old testament Jewish tradition but canceling the other Jewish traditions like the sabbath and so on. Tithing was canceled when the schoolmaster of the law was nailed to the cross.
Well said, thank you for proclaiming the truth of Romans 10:4. This is just one of many false doctrines that Morris and other teachers put forth for their own personal gain. They “sell” the Gospel of Jesus for personal gain and power.
Just curious...how does your church pay for all the building expenses? How much does your church give to other churches? Where does that money come from?
@@paulgunter3475 offerings are still made but the temple tax is over. Jesus was the full and final tithe sacrifice. We trust and believe the Lord to handle our needs by declaring His word. " Owe no man any thing, but to love one another: for he that loveth another hath FULFILLED THE LAW.- Paul." Rom 13.8.
Friend, 2 Corinthians 9 lays out the New Covenant method of giving. (Pray) and decide what you are going to give, not under compulsion, not duty, but freely and joyfully. The church I attend doesn’t have an issue with giving, because all we have is God’s. Not 10%, not 90%, but all is His. How much do we trust Him to meet our needs and the needs of the Body of Christ is the underlying question. Trusting God to give us eternal life is paramount, why would we not trust Him with our finances. He promises to take care of our physical needs. Giving 10% is fine if that is what you have decided to do. God places no % on giving, just that we are to be a giving people based on what He has given for our redemption. Nothing I could ever give will come close to what He has already given. All to Him I owe….. 2 Cor. 9: 7 Each of you should give what you have decided in your heart to give, not reluctantly or under compulsion, for God loves a cheerful giver. 8 And God is able to bless you abundantly, so that in all things at all times, having all that you need, you will abound in every good work. 9 As it is written: “They have freely scattered their gifts to the poor; their righteousness endures forever.”[a] 10 Now he who supplies seed to the sower and bread for food will also supply and increase your store of seed and will enlarge the harvest of your righteousness. 11 You will be enriched in every way so that you can be generous on every occasion, and through us your generosity will result in thanksgiving to God.
What if that woman is lying? Her story hard for me to believe. Could have took what he publicly admitted too and added a lie. 40 years later? Parents never spoke? I call BS
I was wondering will Cindy come out if Pastor Morris is nobody? Church has been offering her something but obviously not enough. Judgement is in God’s hand, let’s pray for both souls rest in peace. Amen🙏
You should be ashamed of yourself. You think the 12 year old got molested and serially raped for four years so she could cash in? She asked for money to compensate for counseling and emotional trauma. But to you she’s an extortionist. Shame on you.
It does matter... The church did NOTHING when they knew from the beginning this man was not fit for leadership. If he was a nobody what does it matter? This guy has been making millions off Christians for yrs.
Her parents knew. He came forward to her dad. It was handled back then. She wants $$$$ people are fooled into th king he got rich off tithes that’s a lie. He’s a number one author and has sold millions of books. He’s also donated 100% of the profits of some books. Preachers also pay taxes but the ignorant people commenting above are clueless. Jealousy of people having wealth is all those comments are about.
Is everyone in this chat Christian? If so, why are y’all judging pastor Morris? If there is one amongst you that have not sin let that one throw the first stone.
We are to judge with righteous judgement (John 7:24) Paul teaches about judgment inside the church: “What business is it of mine to judge those outside the church? Are you not to judge those inside? God will judge those outside. “Expel the wicked person from among you.” 1 Corinthians 5:12-13 Not to forget Paul’s teaching concerning pastors that they need to be above reproach (1 Timothy 3:2). I am afraid that a lot of Christians have lack of knowledge of God’s word.
Historical society is no match for His Story One Gospel Saved by Grace through Faith in Christ Do nothing to offend the church How long before we learn the power of forgiveness The real challenge is the State v Church But we already know render verses so do not neglect the simple act of obedience God Bless America There is no condemnation In Christ Romans 8.1, 5.12-21 Yield 🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🕊
Robert”Rkelly”Morris gave a sermon about how he prayed on girls several years ago and yet this guy acts like he just now found out about it? Dry tears and all?! And You people still sitting in that church???😮 I’m done.
I would not protest what is there too protest if your going to protest blame her father for letting him stay with them blame her father for giving him ok to go back into ministry .. I don't hear her saying anything negative against her own father. There more than she not saying herself in think relationship even tho 12 to 17 didn't go how she wanted it to go n held resentment against him . He has helped millions world wide she has Probably help no one by the the way she is acting she did not say anything till he left her that weird
Sue The Church and then sue the old people that supposedly covered the sexual assault up because most likely there were more victims in the ensuing years between now and then. They are benefiting from the ridiculous tax situation where they can take a bunch of money from their congregation and they don't have to pay any taxes. So they've got a bunch of money that should be stripped in a lawsuit and their Church should be shut down and the building auctioned off
@@thecoops04 people can only read about pedophile super rich pastors for so many decades year after year until they just get sour on the entire premise. One good way to have the general public decide to take away the tax exemption for religious political institutions like this church is to reinforce the idea that a lot of these pastors and priests are pedophiles. Great job!
To refer to some dude as an elder is the dumbest thing. So stupid. But hopefully that dude carries that burden with him for the rest of his life. And hopefully he cries every night about it. He knew about 90% of what that Creep did to that kid. And he knew that it was a young woman. Only he thought that she was older than some arbitrary age. So he thought it was okay that his buddy victimized a young woman and he never inquired about her age. And then when the public found out that the young woman was actually a girl that was only 12 years old, now this guy's crying and now he has regret. He knew all about it. Is victimizing a young person of any age acceptable? Because they seem to be saying that when they thought that he victimized a young woman that was over the age of whatever, they were perfectly fine with working with the guy and allowing a guy around children. Complicit
@@thecoops04 No the guy just resigned. And I've seen video of him telling his congregation recently about taking advantage of a young woman. And he exploits that incident To add flavor to his sermon or something. So this older, not elder, was working right alongside him and listening to this sermon, then he was well aware of the guy's exploitation of a young woman. And it never occurred to him to ask how young this woman was because he was okay with her being exploited as long as she was of some arbitrary age. And that's all admitted on the record. They all openly admit they were well aware that this guy talked about this incident in his church speeches. He just substituted a Euphemism of young lady in place of the truth which was that she was only 12 years old.
What a mess! I can’t keep up with all the “pastors” being exposed! Keep your eyes on Jesus. Only Jesus!!
yes
@@lorenzoquintero5195 who doesn't sin? We are what we are by the grace of God.
@@eunyju7284Do you mean “who among us is not a serial child rapist?” Sounds different when you say exactly what it is, doesn’t it. God can forgive any repentant sinner. Doesn’t mean they should be leading a church. Is this hard for you to understand?
@@digitalwasabi2 he didn't rape her. He has resigned and not leading a church. I'm not supporting what he did but let us be careful to throw the 'first' stone.
Socialism abolishes religion & undermines all rule of law
Do not be deceived by false teachers who are in our church only to be wolves & destroy the shepherds & flock
Revelation is the revealing who Christ is
He alone forgives man’s sins !
Man cannot do enough works or deeds for salvation
Faith Triumphs
Cxl the apostates - reclaim the religion of our founders- The Faith ✝️🕊
The church was full is the most amazing occurrence in all of this. People need to wake up.
What sins have you committed that only the death of Jesus could cover? Or by chance you are without sin?
@@paulgunter3475It was serial child rape. He should have been in prison. Is that too “judgmental” for you? Do you believe it in unbiblical to expose evil acts committed by church leaders and to remove them from the ministry? If so I refer you to the Apostle Paul and his letters to the churches. You will be enlightened.
Some came to hear what the church had to say about this and won’t be attending any more. A few even joined the protest outside the church
People keep in mind not every Pastor does this. There are good pastors that are godly pastors! Not every bad apple is in the cart! Just like anywhere else there’s always someone that’s not good not just in churches! Not making excuses for this Pastor, but we need to be praying for him and his family for God to set him free. He is still God child but he is bound up and he needs to be free for his freedom. Pray for the people at Gateway pray for the victims.😮❤
Vengeance is the LORDS! And He will repay!
But he also forgives
@@lorenzoquintero5195 Judgement from God is different than grace from God through his son Jesus. Both co exist. 🙏🏼✝️ prayers and support for each and every victim 🩷🙏🏼
@@lorenzoquintero5195 Yes, Lorenzo, He does indeed forgive -- but only as a result of genuine repentence and grief over one's sins. That means Robert Morris would have to not only repent and pay justly for what he did to that girl, he would have to genuinly and publicly repent for the false gospel and the heresies he's been preaching and teachiung for decades. I truly pray that he would, but I won't hold my breath waiting for that to happen.
Totally agree
Morris will live out his life in the lap of luxury with the hundreds of millions his devoted sheep gave him
Prayers are with Cindy
Jesus came to forgive and through him he will still forgive
Yes God forgives please don't think you can just do what ever you want in the body of crist, Can you see what happens when you make A calling a career, and so shall God expose all , God is a God of justice
You don't have kids, obviously
@@carmenvljn you are also a sinner. Don’t forget that. Sin is sin.
@@loriwilson-n9tOne is either a sinner or a new creation, according to scripture. Humans still struggle with the sin that so easily besets them, repenting when they "miss the mark". True repentance yields Godly sorrow and a turning away from.
Hebrews 10:26-27, "For if we sin willfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remains no more sacrifice for sin,
But a certain fearful looking for judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries." Keep reading.
This is sin and also a crime, punishment is deserved. Read and study the New Testament/Covenant, you've missed a lot, the whole counsel of God is needed.
That is un forbidden
Ask Olen Griffing if he knew the age.
If I lived nearby, I would be protesting also!
Protesting what?
@JewandGreek The protesting referred to in the 3 minute, 16 second video on which I commented. Did you watch the video? There you will see why people are protesting outside of the church.
You would have been the 7 person protesting lol
@@jahnjohn8849🤷♀️ 🤷♀️ 🤷♀️ 🤷♀️ 🤷♀️ What difference does that make? I'd rather stand against it than do nothing! Maybe you see nothing wrong with Robert Morris's behavior. That's your issue.
@@Trish-es9qz I watched the video, and I don't know why anybody is protesting. It happened over 35 years ago. Robert Morris resigned.
Good morning "Protest and don't let it Rest" amen!
Church should close. Too many knew
Notice the letter didn't mention the victim - first.
They all knew and tried to sweep it underneath the rug.
Why hasn't he been arrested and charged ?
Statute of limitations, unless another comes forward.
Lie probably
Abusers/assaulters do not operate in a vacuum. Let's face it millionaire Robert Morris has the resources to avoid any problems retiring in comfort. Once this bad PR dies down will there be any actual meaningful systemic changes?
Hell won't have that kind of comfort.
@@VMR8648 just remember that for yourself sinner. You will receive the same forgiveness you gave. Scripture.
@@loriwilson-n9tthis isn't about forgiveness at this point, it is about justice for a CRIME. Forgiveness comes from true repentance, Godly sorrow. For actions that break laws there are consequences for ALL.
I’m out of Gateway after 15 years .I don’t trust them.
😢the congregation is being thought to forgive but that doesn’t mean accepting this abuse! ❤” how the mighty are falling “ and their will be more bc God is tiered of all this mess of pastors being immoral 😢
This whole thing smelled when it broke on the news. I’m seeing why now…
If you find this amusing you may be indoctrinated & live by sight & not by Faith
For sin always hurts innocent people, outside of God’s circle of grace
Christ is our strong defense ☎️
The harvest is great but the workers are few
🆕🏃🏿🏃🏿🏃🏿🏃🏿
Put on the new man
Fight the good fight of Faith with no regrets 🙌🕊
He relies on the few faithful
Socialists work case by case!
They keep list of clergy professionals business owners & educators & more who they keep statistics
Yet if we are wise we learn God forbids idle talk & idle thinking & schemes of any kind!
Our victory is His victory
We see the plight of the masses, it’s heart wrenching. Suppressing the truth claims about God & His Son only produces more bond people.
Discover the Book of Life 📕🗝🚪
Proverbs 11.30, Psalm 51, Hebrews 12.2, Acts 1.8
🆕salvation will bring happiness & turn them around. Satan is not your master! He is only a tempter! A liar! Seeking whom he may devour & it’s all through deceit 🗑lies
Pick up your own cross
Scripture says the enemy is the one who calls God a liar
Stealth advocacy & targeting opposition is Alinsky’s rules for radicals to silence you & render you the tail
God made us the head
*Do nothing to offend the church
God wants to do something new
Proverbs 1.7 & 23
The invite 📭 you got mail
Preach the Good News
"The most challenging week?"
What about the real challenges Cindy faced?
Yeah, challenging to try to save their face and reputation. 🙄
God will do right! 🙏
God knew this was going on and did nothing
@@markb3786 God's timing is not our timing.
@@markb3786 and here we have a God blamer 😂 point made.
These pastor Morris should have known better 😢
Hummm🤨 and an Obama $ ad right before this program. The demons are having a field day with this.
You mean the most financial challenging time in their history.
The challenge came when you buried the truth, this is easy- just damage control
Luke 8:17
Mt 10:26
Ez 28:3
Heb 4:13
Nothing hidden that will not
be revealed
This guy's fake crying is BS.
Robert is still getting paid and living in a million dollar home.
He won’t be winning an Academy Award for that fake performance.
try multi million and they brag about it. Not in my Bible!!!
fake crying is right. He should have left as soon as possible!!!!!!!!! god's judgement is swift and sure!!!
More than a million, it's a new build mansion in best area of Southlake
He has a net worth of $117 million I don't get it.
1:06 If Morris was an 'evangelist on the road with his wife' when he molested Cindy in her home, where was the wife when it happened? In bed alone, not knowing where her husband was? Was she a quasi-enabler? Please don't tell me Cindy's parents 'looked the other way' for 5 years, which is a long time to not figure this out. Is this another Jeffrey Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell case? No sooner is one case finally out of the news, here comes another one. I suspect there's a lot more to this story than anyone has heard so far.
The Dad said he's lucky he didn't k*ll him. Read the story.
Lies.
I suspect Cindy is after Morris' millions.
Morris needs to be in jail and sued by the woman and
Morris can spare a million dollars to the victim. He has multiple residences and it's said he's worth $117 million .
@@tamimoncrief2264 he needs to pay up big time and be sued to get a LOT of his money
The church needs to be sued as well for covering up for him.
What needs to happen is a change in the law. If US legal system wasn’t so messed up he would be at least arrested and investigated by now. The elders of the church should have taken action instead of allowing Morris to resign, this is what happens when an individual sets up a church and there is no system of polity within that fellowship. It is one of the patterns we see in these so called mega churches, the leaders have no proper systems in place they are subject to. I pray for this woman she has been speaking out for over 40 years about this, may God bring healing, strength and restoration. I also pray for Morris that he will repent before it is too late, he seems to still be trying to minimise and cover his back. Lord have mercy on us
What if she lied? Which I think it is a lie. Twisting the truth is a lie. I think she’s a lyer.
It's ok folks, Morris gone! But the great news is that HIS SON is taking over! (how gullible do you have to be to be an evangelical? answer: VERY!)
Dudes fake crying is clear he’s in trouble 😂
I was married to an extremely abusive pastor 30 years and no ond held him accountable fir raping me with a battery charger. I was told to be more submitful
He had affairs and manipulated women for money
He left me penniless for a wealthy woman to advance his ministry then played the victim role I was labeled unredeemable because I would not lie when the school sent someone about the abuse to our home
It has taken years to work through the trauma I lived daily. He is seen as a perfect pastor because of the miracles that happen on mission trips....
Abused sexually emotionally physically so bad i couldn't walk for days mentally and spirituality the A/G church
organization did nothing to correct him or confront him
Abuse is coming from anyone
This elder is Tra Wilbanks, CEO of Anchor Investments, a reported family-owned and operated investment firm with a focus in the manufacturing, distribution, and services market. Website says, "Helping owners unlock their equity, we work with companies predominantly located in the south with revenue levels of at least $5 million." Funny how big money always seems to be around the church leadership.
Audience instead of congregants. Welcome to new thought.
You all knew, and hyperventilating will not help.
Remember when ravi board did an independent investigation on him once he passed the truth came out and this independent investigation will do the same for that pastor
Laws need to change! The statute of limitations in Texas changed but is not retroactive. Some states have amended this and Cindy's lawyer is trying to have this done across the board. Petition your legislators!
The last days are here . Zero morals. Hidden secrets are now coming out. What was done in secret will be shouted from roof tops. May God heal the victim. We pray for Robert to repent but retribution is what can heal him. He should have time to reflect and do the needful.
"Most challenging "? Ya think,lol?😅😅😅
Why is she all of sudden saying this now?? After how many years?? Why didn't the parents do something about it back then?? Seems to me there is alot more to this story than what's being said..
That’s what I think too. I think she lying
Obviously you've never been there. Victims especially children are traumatized.... blamed and shamed..... exactly what you're continuing with here. 🤦. Took her to age 35 to even ,"process" what happened to her!!!!!!
Am I supposed to feel bad for people who make their money off of donations from regular people who they have fooled for decades?
Your comment shows you know nothing.
@@thecoops04 I know a lot more than you think.
The government needs to change laws and not be tax exempt & put a cap on how much these greedy Pastors can earn.
@@user-rv9qx9sp1y Totally agree
I'm not a money hungry person...me and my family share what we've got... often... whether we've got a little or a lot.....
But admit, first thing I thought when this story broke was..... I would want my money back!!!
Funny, preachers can screech and scream about how all the parishioners are sinners (for lack of tithing or whatever).... when they're the biggest sinners of all!!
Sort of like when his really good friend/pastor was sternly warning about adulterers going to hell (why yes, it's true...the Bible does say this!!). but while he was busy screeching and fist pounding..."he" was in his own affair. 😵💫
I wonder if certain evil spirits, especially of the lust kind, fell upon this country during 1980s on.... (end days).....or was it always like this? 💁
Fake outrage from the elders. Shocking.
Theatrics Isn't going to Cut it .
Close the doors!!!
Morris needs to be in PRISON. along with his wife. She was complicit!
What about her past, & where were her parents at the time this supposedly was going on?
Rumors have it that the pastor is in Greece 🌏
No extradition?
Won't be able to run on God's Judgement Day! 😂
Oh please!! Does the 'victim' need money after 35 years??!! 😮
She sent a email wanting 50,000. Before she came out. I think she lying
Good morning again, wow pathetic speech because the elders were aware of the situation because the plaintiff made them aware during the incident! Wow, hypocrisy!!
In 2005.
If you elders place his son James Morris as pastor, we know you arent sincere. And that goes for the son Josh too. And his daughter Elaine and husband.
Get real
Exactly this
How did he think he cpuld continue on with yhos lie how could he preach thd gospel knowing he had this hsnging over his head his wife and kids he should be ashamed of himself
Anyone who fell into the obsolete teaching that tithes are still in effect never studied their bible correctly, and fell into tithing into this church its on you. Keeping a record of everyone that tithed and didnt which is what this church did goes against what Jesus taught dont let your left hand know what your right hand is doing.
This is a classic example of a non Jew gentile leader teaching the tithe, an old testament Jewish tradition but canceling the other Jewish traditions like the sabbath and so on. Tithing was canceled when the schoolmaster of the law was nailed to the cross.
Well said, thank you for proclaiming the truth of Romans 10:4. This is just one of many false doctrines that Morris and other teachers put forth for their own personal gain. They “sell” the Gospel of Jesus for personal gain and power.
About 90% of pastors manipulate the word of God for selfish reasons. For control,power and money.
Just curious...how does your church pay for all the building expenses? How much does your church give to other churches? Where does that money come from?
@@paulgunter3475 offerings are still made but the temple tax is over. Jesus was the full and final tithe sacrifice. We trust and believe the Lord to handle our needs by declaring His word.
" Owe no man any thing, but to love one another: for he that loveth another hath FULFILLED THE LAW.- Paul." Rom 13.8.
Friend, 2 Corinthians 9 lays out the New Covenant method of giving. (Pray) and decide what you are going to give, not under compulsion, not duty, but freely and joyfully. The church I attend doesn’t have an issue with giving, because all we have is God’s. Not 10%, not 90%, but all is His. How much do we trust Him to meet our needs and the needs of the Body of Christ is the underlying question. Trusting God to give us eternal life is paramount, why would we not trust Him with our finances. He promises to take care of our physical needs.
Giving 10% is fine if that is what you have decided to do. God places no % on giving, just that we are to be a giving people based on what He has given for our redemption. Nothing I could ever give will come close to what He has already given. All to Him I owe…..
2 Cor. 9: 7 Each of you should give what you have decided in your heart to give, not reluctantly or under compulsion, for God loves a cheerful giver. 8 And God is able to bless you abundantly, so that in all things at all times, having all that you need, you will abound in every good work. 9 As it is written:
“They have freely scattered their gifts to the poor;
their righteousness endures forever.”[a]
10 Now he who supplies seed to the sower and bread for food will also supply and increase your store of seed and will enlarge the harvest of your righteousness. 11 You will be enriched in every way so that you can be generous on every occasion, and through us your generosity will result in thanksgiving to God.
Easy to know this is going on. Challenging to be caught.
I highly emotional speech about how abuse can't be tolerated? Aren't all of their sermons highly emotional? 🤔
I think the elders left him way behind...
Now get back in that church and don't forget to bring your wallets!
I 😅....but sadly this is way too true
Where were the parents????
This is tragic
To Pastor Morris' credit, he has just created thousands of new Atheists! 'Keep up the good work' 😃
I'm sure those protesters have never done anything wrong. God have mercy on us all.
Just out of curiosity, I see you’ll forgive pedophilia, what’s the greatest sin you wouldn’t forgive in your pastor, being gay?
Dear Lord forgive these preachers all they are it for is their own personal gaiin
Guilty until proven innocent? I think the woman twisting his truth to a lie.
Would never mention this if it was ISLAM.....😅😅😅😅😅
Not better things to protest'? look at the fruit of his ministry for the last 35 eyars
Nothing better to protest than the abuse of a child while hiding behind "Christianity" and making millions.
What's your point? God spoke through Balaam's donkey. Does that mean the donkey was great.
Standing ovation for a phony crying act? They should have hired a "crisis" actor, as they would have done a better acting job.
This one got me lol
What if that woman is lying? Her story hard for me to believe. Could have took what he publicly admitted too and added a lie. 40 years later? Parents never spoke? I call BS
I was wondering will Cindy come out if Pastor Morris is nobody? Church has been offering her something but obviously not enough. Judgement is in God’s hand, let’s pray for both souls rest in peace. Amen🙏
You should be ashamed of yourself. You think the 12 year old got molested and serially raped for four years so she could cash in? She asked for money to compensate for counseling and emotional trauma. But to you she’s an extortionist. Shame on you.
So in your mind the 12 year old child rape victim is the bad person in this. Got it.
It does matter... The church did NOTHING when they knew from the beginning this man was not fit for leadership. If he was a nobody what does it matter? This guy has been making millions off Christians for yrs.
Get all the information, you appear a fool.
Be sure and know your sin will find out
Numbers 34:23
This is what happens when you worship the pastor
But why she didn't shout, scream and told her parents? Why now? Was she enjoying it?
Her parents knew. He came forward to her dad. It was handled back then. She wants $$$$ people are fooled into th king he got rich off tithes that’s a lie. He’s a number one author and has sold millions of books. He’s also donated 100% of the profits of some books. Preachers also pay taxes but the ignorant people commenting above are clueless. Jealousy of people having wealth is all those comments are about.
@@thecoops04 ummmm....wow!!
I was r*ped and blamed myself because I didn't scream. Women freeze up. They also trauma bond. Please do your research before making hurtful comments.
Exactly!
Is everyone in this chat Christian? If so, why are y’all judging pastor Morris? If there is one amongst you that have not sin let that one throw the first stone.
We are to judge with righteous judgement (John 7:24)
Paul teaches about judgment inside the church: “What business is it of mine to judge those outside the church? Are you not to judge those inside? God will judge those outside. “Expel the wicked person from among you.”
1 Corinthians 5:12-13
Not to forget Paul’s teaching concerning pastors that they need to be above reproach (1 Timothy 3:2).
I am afraid that a lot of Christians have lack of knowledge of God’s word.
Amen
Exactly!
How exaggerated was the elder ! It’s not the end of the world !
Judge not lest ye be judged
Read it through verse 5
@@WISHBONEL7 reading through is what the elders did and the father.
@@thecoops04 What is your point ?.
I think you need to read the rest of the Bible.
Historical society is no match for His Story
One Gospel
Saved by Grace through Faith in Christ
Do nothing to offend the church
How long before we learn the power of forgiveness
The real challenge is the State v Church
But we already know render verses so do not neglect the simple act of obedience
God Bless America
There is no condemnation In Christ
Romans 8.1, 5.12-21
Yield 🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🕊
ah, yes, a 'challenging week', indeed. Tell it like it is. Call a spade a spade.
"shocked, devesrated, and greaving." What!?!? Bro did he touch you too?
Organized religion.
= organized crime
Gateway to Hell Church failed . Should have done better job at hiding the iniquities.
Robert”Rkelly”Morris gave a sermon about how he prayed on girls several years ago and yet this guy acts like he just now found out about it? Dry tears and all?! And You people still sitting in that church???😮
I’m done.
Robert”RKelly”Morris
My question to christians is, if she got pregnant, would they still firce her to have the child?
There was no sex
I would not protest what is there too protest if your going to protest blame her father for letting him stay with them blame her father for giving him ok to go back into ministry .. I don't hear her saying anything negative against her own father. There more than she not saying herself in think relationship even tho 12 to 17 didn't go how she wanted it to go n held resentment against him . He has helped millions world wide she has
Probably help no one by the the way she is acting she did not say anything till he left her that weird
Yea her emails sound more blackmailing than traumatizing. She wants $$$$
Might have thought he'd leave his wife for her???
Sue The Church and then sue the old people that supposedly covered the sexual assault up because most likely there were more victims in the ensuing years between now and then. They are benefiting from the ridiculous tax situation where they can take a bunch of money from their congregation and they don't have to pay any taxes. So they've got a bunch of money that should be stripped in a lawsuit and their Church should be shut down and the building auctioned off
Ignorance 😂
@@thecoops04 people can only read about pedophile super rich pastors for so many decades year after year until they just get sour on the entire premise. One good way to have the general public decide to take away the tax exemption for religious political institutions like this church is to reinforce the idea that a lot of these pastors and priests are pedophiles. Great job!
To refer to some dude as an elder is the dumbest thing. So stupid. But hopefully that dude carries that burden with him for the rest of his life. And hopefully he cries every night about it. He knew about 90% of what that Creep did to that kid. And he knew that it was a young woman. Only he thought that she was older than some arbitrary age. So he thought it was okay that his buddy victimized a young woman and he never inquired about her age. And then when the public found out that the young woman was actually a girl that was only 12 years old, now this guy's crying and now he has regret. He knew all about it. Is victimizing a young person of any age acceptable? Because they seem to be saying that when they thought that he victimized a young woman that was over the age of whatever, they were perfectly fine with working with the guy and allowing a guy around children. Complicit
This was 40 years ago he wasn’t an elder then 🙄
@@thecoops04 No the guy just resigned. And I've seen video of him telling his congregation recently about taking advantage of a young woman. And he exploits that incident To add flavor to his sermon or something. So this older, not elder, was working right alongside him and listening to this sermon, then he was well aware of the guy's exploitation of a young woman. And it never occurred to him to ask how young this woman was because he was okay with her being exploited as long as she was of some arbitrary age. And that's all admitted on the record. They all openly admit they were well aware that this guy talked about this incident in his church speeches. He just substituted a Euphemism of young lady in place of the truth which was that she was only 12 years old.