What Are The Jedi Shadows of the Jedi Order? - Star Wars Explained
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"He who fights with monsters might take care lest he thereby become a monster. And if you gaze for long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also into you." - Nietzsche.
Also, I get the feeling that Nietzsche is the kind of guy who would've embraced The Empire. Just saying. ~_~
Majin Sole He would've been more of a neutral factor.
one of the only insightful things Nietzsche ever said.
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I think l found the space ninjas of Star Wars.
I would LOVE a Shadow in Canon! I always loved the Shadows as they tended to be basically a Jedi Black Ops unit and they tackled jobs their Brothers and Sisters couldn't handle but yeah they got a little too extreme later on but it's understandable. Surrounded by the Dark tends to cloud judgements and ideas
So essentially the Jedi Shadows were the Inquisition of the Jedi Order.
"Suffer Not The Sith to Live! Purge the heretics!!"
And so easily manipulated.
Plus, because they fake their own deaths, their arrival is often unexpected...
NOBODY EXPECTS THE JEDI INQUISITION
Our chief weapon is surprise...surprise and fear...fear and surprise.... Our two weapons are fear and surprise...and ruthless efficiency.... Our *three* weapons are fear, surprise, and ruthless efficiency...and an almost fanatical devotion to the Jedi.... Our *four*...no... *Amongst* our weapons.... Amongst our weaponry...are such elements as fear, surprise.... I'll come in again.
A Jedi strong enough in the force and with enough combat prowess to become a sentinel, being selected as a Shadow, hunting down the Sith, becoming ever more paranoid, starting to see everything in black and white (dealing in absolutes), hating the dark side with passion and fearing to become corrupted while being constantly exposed to the dark side is a) a recipe for desaster and b) a story i would 100% watch!
Cant help but think of Nietzsche's quote when I think of shadows, "Battle not with monsters, lest ye become a monster, and if you gaze into the abyss, the abyss gazes also into you"
Jedi version of Inquisitor
Obi-Wan Kenobi kinda adopted these methods when he infiltrated Dooku's plot to kidnap the chancellor as Rako Hardeen.
Ahh, I remember playing as the Jedi Shadow in SWTOR. They are basically as you described. Using stealth and secrecy, they acted like assassins for the Jedi Order.
definitely. They are keepers of the peace. ''¨My own thoughs, The actual peace of existence.''
If feel this if open sourced as inn the olden days would work. as workers jedi would become.
dooers of things.
truth is, with ascension comes more knowing of things. Not less.
According to the Jedi Path, Shadows were part of the Sentinel class, and often used yellow lightsabers. Palpatine himself admitted that most Jedi that survived were Sentinels, so I believe that many Shadows did survive. (I can hope.)
I love this Channel. Even if I don't watch it for a bit, there's a wealth of content when I get that Star Wars itch. I unsubscribe from channels every so often to cut down my suggestion list, but this channel will remain on that list when others have gone.
question (and possible topic for video): how were Jedi or Sith artifacts created and how can be destroyed? I mean, you just don't go forage a small pyramid or obelisk made of metal and then infuse it with the Force. or do you?
Gerardo Garza García You do exactly that.
Gerardo Garza García is ur pic a pancake
I'd love to see shadows and definitely some grey Jedi, especially in their own series and likely in the Old Republic setting when the galaxy was still reeling from the last war with the Sith
Could you make a video about the Jedi Shadow's counterpart: Sith Assassins?
Oh yes.
Oh yes.
Yes plz. Total must..
The thing about the Jedi Covenant is that they are a Rogue secret faction within the Order that uses their OWN Shadows which is separated from the Jedi Order's Shadows. They were so extreme in preventing the Dark Side from returning that the members killed their own Padawans because they had a vision that a Sith Lord will be in red armor and their pawadans wore red suits.
But yeah, I like to see Shadows in canon, and the other Jedi classes and specialized classes in Canon as well. I personally see the Shadows as the Jedi Order's Special Forces/Black Ops or the CIA's SAD division, doing wetwork and top-secrets missions.
"To hunt down and destroy Sith and Sith artifacts." What made the Jedi believe that they had the right to do so?! This only illustrates that the Jedi never truly believed in the force...only their dogma. There is no light side or dark side of the force...there is only the force.
They did a shit job, considering how eps 1-3 turned out.
lol
the Bible says no cussing
Well they were going into the dark abyss' of the galaxy and, ironically, the sith were in the center of light in the universe, right under the republic's and Jedi's noses.
I hate how the Jedi tried to destroy everything dark or Sith and then deny Sith existence.
Loverlife090994 the sith did the same thing...
MibuKenshin At least they didn't deny the Jedi's existence.
It would be awesome to see some Jedi Shadows in canon, but not still the same. The Sith evolved to defeat the Jedi while the Jedi were still fully prepared to only fight the Sith of the last generation; as they evolved to overcome the Jedi, it would be great to see the Jedi shadows evolved to, instead of fanatically refusing to even THINK about using the dark side, instead realizing the dark side is what you do instead of just what you feel, like Mace Windu with his Vaapad lightsaber style where he skirts the dark side while occasionally using darker emotions (anger, savagery, bloodlust, etc.) directed towards the dark side to protect the innocent and fight true evil.
Imagine if TPM had been allowed to go through drafts and rewrites and Jedi Shadows, perhaps Qui Gon himself one, appeared in the movie to warn the council and teach them about the Sith menace with the appearance of Maul.
Awesome Video. Been waiting for you to cover this for a while. Thank you !
They also hunted down any sort of Dark Side user. They were like the Secret Police of Jedi, and even served as Jedi assassins
Deep down the darkness in the unknown regions I kinda hope it was a part of the Ancient Sith that survived out side of the rule of two
Every faction has it's secrets.
Luke will most likely go down a gray path rather than be a Jedi. He was trained in the dark by Yoda because Yoda understood too late that only studying one side or the other will always create a misbalance in the force.
Solely studying the light will cause you to be lonely, the Jedi frowning heavily upon marriage and encouraging their members to be emotionless. Whereas only studying the dark will make you murderous and power hungry. Studying both and finding balance in that would make you far more powerful than any Jedi or Sith.
From all the youtube channel that talk about SW you're my favorite !
I would really like to hear your thoughts on the role, if any, that the force-sensitive sapling Luke gave to Poe's mother will play in the future
you cannot do good unless you see both sides of the coin, this is why the Jedi can never be what they aspire to be, because of their utter refusal to aknowledge the very existence of the Dark Side
Jan Alltaer If one is to understand “the great mystery” one must study all it’s aspects, not just the dogmatic narrow view of the Jedi. If you wish to become a complete and wise leader, you must embrace a larger view of the force
SIXVERYRVRE xehanort IN kingdom hearts birth by sleep said the same thing ironically mark hamill played master eraqus
Palpatine wasn't wrong on that one
Uh..what? That was so stupid. You are just trying to seem smart but that is stupid saying the Jedi refuse to "acknowledge" the Dark Side. There isn't even a Dark Side, just force moves that are associated with the Dark Side. And bad people using them for bad things.
Taaha Siddiqui True, true but the Jedi never thought to learn the the side of the force that was associated with the Sith and so then they couldn't fully fullfil the role that they wanted to fulfill.
Destroying monsters dose' not make you a monster, destroying the ones that label you a monster is a better Idea' to begin with'...we can make marrters out of defeated Titan's as well...be so quick to judge are we, nothing more than a spectator we will pay you no attention then...
Goose spins his two purple lightsabers and connects them together into one dule saber,,,and turns them off" buzzzp''' shall you forget not
You are a ... and I am a ...
Gladiator "
Very cool. Shadows sound like they could be some of the most powerful Jedi in the order, specifically when it comes to combat. I would very much like to see the Shadows in canon. The jedi order was a very sneaky order, wanting to quell its members and control everything about them and what they could or could not do much like a dictator.
I would love to see the various Jedi and Sith specializations from SWtOR appear in cannon. I think it would go a long way toward showing the moviegoing audience the different ways that the Force manifests in different people.
i love the artwork during the video
wow I never heard about this. This is one of your best videos ever
The funny thing is, since they erased all traces of their existance nobody could be sure how many of them there actually were. A group of Jedi Shadows that survived Order 66 and the empire, but kinda became even more extreme and obsessed with whipping out the dark side would make for a good twist villain. One could even explain why they were never mentioned before, even during the clone wars only a few Jedi even knew about their existance and they did not like talk about them. I also think that they would be heavily opposed to any order rebuild by Luke or Rey, snce both are descendant of Darkside users and have not been inducted since early childhood.
Please do a video on the Barsen'thor's of the Jedi Order? Hearing about the Wardens of the Order would be interesting.
The quote at 4:05 is one from Nietzsche - Beyond Good and Evil
Good to see mention of the Jedi Covenant! Basically the pinnacle of Jedi Shadows.
I found it interesting you used the same exact quote TJ Kirk(The Amazing Atheist) used in a recent video of his. But he used it to describe humanity. Instead of staring into the abyss, we are the abyss staring into itself.
Would be fun to play a Shadow in a future Star Wars game. Like a Kotor or Kotor 2. I imagine you are a famous/popular Jedi fighting in a war. Possibly somebody who is as powerful as Starkiller. During the last battle of the war, you would fake your death, order to continue fighting the Sith in secret. You'd probably need to find a new skills to hide behind (not unlike the Soldier, Scout, Scoundrel classes in Kotor). You'd normally fight with conventional means (ie. a blaster in hand), until you were confronted with Sith, then you'd bring out your force powers.
I'm a fan of spy stories and games that allow me to take on a stealth element - I absolutely love the idea of the Shadows. My first PC in TOR is an Infiltration Shadow.
I would love to see Jedi Shadows in the canon. I feel like a movie focusing on them would be great and really interesting if someone good was to be cast director and writer
It would be interesting to see a group of Shadows to arrive at the rebel base after hearing that luke has returned.
This can be a new storyline for Mace Windu!
i think the jedi should keep jedi shadows as a special branch that is composed of a separate council run by gray jedi. i would love to see the jedi take a more active role in combating the sith, but in a reformed manner as opposed to the stagnant ways of the prequel jedi. i would call kyle katarrn a great candidate for a jedi shadow grand master
Ah yes. The Jedi shadows. I remember a discussion about them with another commenter, and the similarities in both name and missions with the Sith shadowhands
Thank You again for doing these great videos!
I took a quiz and got this. So far i like it
Imagine a Jedi shadows game with an assassins creed feel to it where you silently destroy a group of sith that tried to rise against the Republic
Have you done a video on the Hyperspace Wars?
always love the idea of a Jedi shadow. me and my apprentice all on our own hunting down dark side artifacts and lore to destroy
I would like to read a novel about the Jedi shadows, great video, one of my favorite
You should make a video on Jedi Sages
Wow they really handled that whole Emperor Palpatine situation well didn't they! Also, I believe the quote was Neitzche.
Probably the coolest type of Jedi, reminds me of the Ordo Malleous Inq form W40K
hey man , i love ur vids and ur voice is well pronounced. Nice topics, great work, keep it up.
I have a Clawdite Jedi in Star Wars Saga Edition RPG and she is a Shadow. It makes a really interesting character.
always loved the Shadows
it would be great if they dedicate a series to the shadows
I have a good what if suggestion! What if master yoga lead the Jedi assault on Geinosis to save Obi-wan instead of Mace, where mace went to get the clones .
You should do a battle between the Covenant from Halo vs. the Empire or Republic.
Maybe a video about the jobs and resbonsibilities of the grand master of the jedi?
Or history of different races in Star Wars?
Cool video, do Sith have their own version of the shadows like the Grey
Thanks, but I thought the Sith Inquisitors were torturers
I would like to see a five series of the Jedi Shadows and Sith Assassins and intersect with the Mandalorian!!!!
Unless I missed your doing so, it would be great if you could say at the beginning of a video whether something is cannon or eu.
i like chaotic good characters but they're usually flawed and turn into chaotic evil simply because of the aggressive nature that they must brandish to uphold their beliefs. the methods that they employ to do what's deemed fine in their mind often leads to their fall. you can't force peace without being evil.
Shadows are the Ninjas of the Jedi that is their role ''We seek in the Darkness to find light'',we hunt for corruption in secret
Can you do a video on the Jedi Lords. I'm curious at how you'll do the video.
can you do a video covering any jedi shadow in kotor 2? i wonder if the master who went to korriban was a shadow. or the jedi during the great hunt
Dude...you are god!!! Keep up the great videos!!!
in SWTOR I chose to be a Shadow, I dont recall doing much of sith hunting but I guess in a way the whole story was that
there's so many good fanart in this video, where did you find them :o ?
so, any ideas what happened to Barris Offe after order 66?
Should do a what If episode on palpatine being grand master of the Jedi and Yoda being dark lord of the sith.
Yes I would like to see the Jedi Shadows in cannon. However what happen to them during order 66????
Great video
See! This alone would make for one hell of a movie. Focused on the Jedi Shadows. No politics, no good VS evil crap. Just very grey characters, extreme even.
Rogue One is better understood if you read the book in timewise before it. It explains a lot.
Friedrich Nietzsche, good words of wisdom, but sometimes it takes a monster to destroy a monster, such as in the case of Anakin Skywalker/Darth Vader
my favorite lightsabers are the Shoto saber like the one Yoda used, and the Lightsaber pikes
What bugs me is that no Jedi Shadows were used to arrest Sidious.
I would like it if a jedi shadow were involved in preserving jedi knowledge, or if snoke were a fallen shadow.
Do you think that in the prequel era any Jedi Shadows existed? And if so, do you think that a Jedi Shadow would have had a problem with and maybe have attacked Mace Windu or Anakin Skywalker?
I love this job. I think It's a breath of fresh air. Finally someone with the calling to be as violent as it takes to destroy the Sith. I think I just found my favorite role in Star Wars
So can you do a what if on a Jedi shadow finding/meeting Anakin?
I believe that this video shows
proof positive the issues and danger of being slanted or preferring one way of the force. that being in balance truly comes from the grey Jedi path. extremism is not balance and will truly lead to destruction. regardless of intentions.
I see the Jedi shadows as similar to the Leaf villages "foundation" in naruto. Protecting "peace" through extreme measures
Murder and censorship. Sounds really righteous! :P "Only a Sith deals in absolutes", right?
Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it.
THANK YOU....another grand slam!
this is a interesting video, if finn was force sensitive i could see him being a jedi shadow.
+The Stupendous Wave: Who is/are the Dark Jedi/Sith at 1:05, 2:13, 2:20, 5:12 and 5:29. He/they look cool as fuck!
we eventually: half to even out the kills between jedi and other factions of the jedi > like how successful was this secret faction
1: if there
were only two siths
at a time !
not as powerful as Sidous!?
witch only means they were around at the beginning when there was an army of sith ?
2: how much sith deaths are they responsible for anyone we know of ?
3: did they really go missing after order 66?
Was the fighting style used by the Jedi before order 66 more powerful than the fighting style that Luke uses?
Jedi used varying forms, Luke using Djem So and Ataru, Yoda using Ataru, Windu using vaapad, etc. They were all equally deadly, the user the only one changing that.
Kivzat in to add on, in general , the forms mainly adapted to combating blasters than sabers. This was why when the council lost Dooku, it dealt a heavy blow to them as he was one of the prized masters of lightsaber dueling.
Luke's Teachings may reflect towards his form or the ones he had studied. Taking into account what hpnd in legends, Luke did well with most of his students.
A video game about these guys would be so fucking awesome!!!!
Yes, please..... I think it would be amazing if a small sect of Jedi Shadows would show up a pay the Knights of Ren, Snoke , Rey as well as Luke Skywalker a visit. The Jedi Shadows would be defeated by Luke and Finn after an epic battle.
Nice Nietzche quote? he was brilliant and way ahead of his time.
They should introduce Jedi Shadows in the new canon
I'd think it'd be good to see a Jedi shadow in Canon, and I think the setting for one would be in a sith Lord Temple driven mad by the ever present dark force around him/her made to forever wander in the Halls of the temple never knowing what will attack them, in other words the Jedi would act like a guard for the powerful sith artifact dealing with the mind. I think that would be a good way to have them show not only the Jedi shadow but how an ancient sith Lord could use them for their weakness to the dark side.
So, Jedi Shadows became so dedicated against the Dark Side that they came to _hate_ it, which, in itself, is a Dark Side emotion, and lead to their own downfall in many ways.
CAN SOMEONE PLEASE TELL ME HOW TO FIND A VIDEO CLIP OF JERREK THE INQUISITOR!!! IVEBEEN SEARCHING FOR SO LONG AND NOTHING HAS POPPED UP
had never heard of them, interesting
Nietzsche and Star Wars?
Perfection :D