@@WHOTEEWHO I prefer 357 but bullet choice is everything and of course accuracy so get ya ass to put in range time to become more proficient shot but can I say a bigger clay block to capture slugs see if they performed as they should. Winchester ranger t series hollow point are great rounds be great to see video testing them bad ass rounds in any caliber 👍🇮🇹🦊🐾🇬🇧
I wouldn’t want to get shot by a 45 automatic either slower moving bullet but almost twice as large and weight 100% energy transfer no chance of it passing through you get the full affect
I carried a nickel 19 bull barrel as my first duty gun as a deputy sheriff as well. I later traded it on a 686, which I still have. It was the last wheel gun I carried before my agency went to semi-autos. 31 years later, still on the job and I still have 4 of the duty guns I carried during that time.
@@raybates3119 Never can you go wrong with a S & W 686 !! Thank you for all your years of service. 👍🏻 Please continue to stay safe. All the best from Alabama 🙏
@@markstomberg1384 in the day of Fred Flintstone long before the internet when hard cast and Winchester Silvertip bullets were King, 44 mag didn't beat 41mag by much.
It would be helpful to compare a 158 gr .357 to 155 gr. 100 to get a closer comparison. 125 gr hp has a crazy amount of energy and gets maximum expansion and energy dump. A180 gr 10 mm won’t expand as much and will penetrate more.
there are ported barrel version of 357 mag with 8 shot capacity from Taurus. There are 8 shot version from S&W as well. 357 mag is a good choice of wood defense when you are carrying 8 instead of 5 or 6
The damage is more about velocity. Load a 155 in 10mm, and a 158 in the 357, and youll have a fair comparison. Keep up the videos, good to see the splatter.
100% Comparisons between different guns, different grains, different barrel lengths is like... well, we know what it's like. I was drinking tequila that night so of course I outperformed the guy with the bigger clay block. ;-)
@@Wildwestwrangler The first two rounds in my 10mm are Underwood using Lehigh Defense 115 grain Xtreme Defense bullets. Use them because they are barrier blind and don't deform if I have to shoot though walls, doors or cars. Underwood rates them at 1,700 fps and 738 ft. lbs of energy at the muzzle. They are cooking and create a gigantic temporary shock cavity / hydrostatic shock. I back them up with Underwood using Hornady XTP bullets rated at 1,500 fps and 775ft. lbs. 10mm is the best mm.
That would NOT be a fair comparison. Every bullet has an optimal weight per powder charge. For 10mm, that's 165gr (.40 is better with 155). For .357 that's 125gr. You can deviate from those up or down, but you'll see diminishing gains in actual energy delivered on target.
Yup, you hit both. The 357 appeared to hit in the top third while the 10mm was pretty close to dead center. If they both hit dead center, I think the pattern of destruction would be similar, with the 10mm hole being larger. I can’t say how much larger due to the dynamics of speed vs mass and different bullet sharpe. The energy dump for both is huge and way more than than needed for self defense in most cases. It’s always cool to watch clay blocks being blown away. Another “fun video.”
I was very impressed the other day when you shot the 357 Sig. Something that I never considered, now I do will be adding one to the collection next month.
That sure was fun to watch! I love the feel of firing a .357 mag. Never shot a deer with one. I got a 10mm shot on a young buck once. One round to the neck and he was dead as fried chicken! The hole looked similar to that clay. Left a hole big enough to put a soda can through. Thanks for doing this one and sharing it with us!
I’ve got an ole’ 30-06’, that will set them down, big time! But, much bigger round. I’ve shot just about everything up & including .35 caliber rifles, 30, 31, 32, 33’s, 348, 35 Wheelin, & REM. I had a Taurus Tracker Mod 627 in .357 Mag no scope, open sights. I was setting in my stand and 2 does came trotting by @ 20yrds, shot her in the neck w/Semi-Jacketed HP, 158grains. I’ve never seen a deer drop that fast, (a close 2nd is w/my .260 Rem. cause of insane penetration, I almost decapitated a young ButtonBuck w/139gr Lapua Scenar(not a hunting round)!! I felt awful for what that round did to that little deer, even though death was instantaneous). My oldest son dropped a (dry-146 Net), 150 class buck w/a .260Rem, he weighed at the locker plant 239lbs, gutted! Big ole buck never took a step! Ole buck been on trail cam 4yrs. My middle son shot a killed a doe w/his Taurus Model 809 semi-auto. Same result, dropped dead in her tracks! All I know is that a .357 & calibers in this “sweet spot”, are deadly for some reason. The 9mm is .355 in S.A.E., measurements so don’t dismiss the 9mm! I have 9mm factory ammo (specialty ammo), that generates 515lbs of energy. Your talking .357 territory there. So who knows? Lol
@@MybeautifulandamazingPrincessWhy would the use of caliber determine that you are going to jail? With the right loads either one is a great EDC. Round.i personally carry a kimber rapide in 10mm with 165 gr xtp bullets!
With the really hot load underwood ammo the 10mm is becoming the fast favorite for grizzly protection, from what I heard. The lighter gun is easier to carry than the revolvers that the 44 magnums and bigger shoots in. I'm a 357 magnum fan, but I guess the 10mm can work better when the right ammo is used. I would choose the 357 magnum, because I loved shooting the one I had years ago.
Hi, WTW. All I can say is, I laughed out loud when that 357 blew the clay to smithereens. I had no idea what was going to happen and I got an education. Thanks for sharing! Stay healthy!
I'm a .357 guy all the way because of it's versatility. I practice a lot with .38 Special loads in a .357 chambered weapon but when it's show time it's .357 time. I'd love to see an addition to this video and that would be the same .357 cartridge fired out of a 20 inch barreled rifle. The increased velocity makes a big difference. Great video.
From 110gr to 200gr, it's super versatile. 158gr loads in Buffalo Bore run nearly 2200 fps in a 20" barrel. Buffalo Bore 180gr runs 1500 fps from a 6" Ruger.
Wheel Guns are like Mullets, You can Run .38 first three Round in the cylinder to stop the party. .357 Last three chambers when you want to get down to business.
@@smolboyi With some hot 10mm loads, you're gonna have more power than a 357 magnum, it sounds crazy, but when 10mm came out it was some really hot stuff. The FBI rejected 10mm because the recoil was too much for their agents
@@connergarlock771 The search for hot 10s begins! Also I need a gun to shoot them haha. I mean whatever he's shooting here though, the 357s are hotter, no?
I love the 357, but I'm a 10mm guy to the end. The stopping power difference between the two seems negligible overall, and either is honestly more than suitable for self-defense, whether it'd be against a person or bear! I simply just prefer the lesser recoil (thus more follow up shots) and the higher 15 round capacity of the 10mm in my Glock 20. Not to mention it's noticebly cheaper than a 357 here in Wisconsin at least. I bought my Glock 20 for about $650, while the price of a 357 Magnum was anywhere from $950 up to $1,300.
I own both a .357 snubnose revolver and a 10mm glock 29 semi auto. They're both great and devastating, but the.357 is slightly more powerful however I only get 5 rounds, but the 10mm has 10 or 15 depending on the magazine. I usually carry the. 357 because it is smaller and more concealable, but if I'm on a road trip or in a bad neighborhood I could use the 10mm.
@James_wingthwong_ Banks the little girl is probably explaining to her parents what they’re doing with it lol. “Oh, that’s Who_Tee_Who and he’s just making another really fun video”
Well there is a reason why that they say that with all the calibers out there, that 125 grain jacketed hollow point in .357 is still the number one man stopper. I really wouldn't want to get hit with either round though!!!
@@matsgranqvist9928 so what’s your “legendary” round? 9mm? 😆 lol 357 might not be the best but it’s still a hot freakin round that annihilates whatever it hits (like most bullets tend to do)
I routinely carry both calibers, The 357 Mag. 125 gr. hollow point has long been recognized as the round with the most one shot stops. That said a 180 gr. 10mm at 1200 fps isn't a slouch either. The main difference is in the platform. Although they do make 357 autos, and a 10mm revolver they are not your normal concealed carry weapons. I do believe the 10mm would be a much better round if you were worried about a bear attack.
Hi Mr Colvill, I thought you would be a good person to pose this thought's legitimacy to: I know 9mm is a faster flying round and gets great penetration. However, if I'm in a gunfight, I would rather make it harder for my opponent to successfully establish a good firing line/aim on me by throwing off his/her aim every time one of my rounds hit the opponent. The 9 does more penetration, but does it go thru too fast as a lighter bullet and thus, does nothing to throw off their aim due to the physics involved? The Cult of Luger, as I call them, loves skilling up till they can shoot 5 rounds off accurately around 1.5 secs. That does a great deal of damage to their opponent, but it requires them spend more time with their aim on that target before moving to the next. I think you could juggle two opponents theoretically putting a shot in each of them while moving to cancel out the "you get one but the other gets you" problem with a big caliber, plus you do more damage per round even if you have fewer rounds. And what about body armor? If I hit armor with a 10mm or .357, it would still impact hard enough the majority of times (depending on the mass and forward motion of the opponent) to force the opponent to regain line of fire. You dont have to throw aim off by much to cause them to miss. So, move more (till you get good cover), shoot less than 5 rounds a second, but hit them well with a big caliber. Therefore, penetration isn't the only thing that's important in a gunfight, but also impact effect to make it hard for the opponent to return fire successfully. Did your duty experience, or what you heard with officers using .357/10mm, match this scenario?
@@doates1670 Hi Mr Oates, I wrote a long but I think very good question to Mr Colvill that I'd appreciate your input on based on your real world experience and that of others you know who use big calibers over 9mm.
@@Amaransudes I've seen peeps shot with 9mm keep firing back but those hit with .357 go down because of speed and weight. I mostly carry .45 cal now due to capacity. The 9mm will work but I'll take weight over speed. Just my humble opinion. Hope this helps.
I've suggested this before but I'd like to throw in a reminder.... In the future would you Please put a stack of paper plates behind the clay (or water jugs, etc) to catch the rounds so we can see how much penetration power the rounds still have after passing through the first target.🙂 That would really increase the awesome\interesting\fun factor of an already great video. Thanks W-T-W!😉👍
I love both the .357 and 10mm. Both have comparable energy. When it comes to Bear Medicine though I'll still pack my .44 loaded with REALLY NASTY HPR rounds!!! A very wicked combo!!! Good video!!!
10mm has become one of the most popular rounds for bear defense unless you're using a wheel gun then usually 44 mag is the minimum used going up to 454 or 500, but not everyone can shoot those large calibers well. 357 mag is more of a hog or deer round. But I get your point, deer are typically much harder to drop than most predators you would ever face on the street so therefore it's very adequate as well. In 10mm the 200 or 220 grain hard cast or FMJ hot loads works very well on bear.
@@duaneadkins1261 that’s right. I hear that a lot of people are using the 500!mag “Bear Edition” as well. It’s a shirt barrel (probably not fun to shoot) in their backpacks. They say it has around 2,700 Foot pounds of pressure (equal to a 12 gauge slug) Which is BONE crushing power. Anyways, good travels my man 👍
@Sooner Longbow if I need anything hotter than my 1300+ fps, 180 gr JHP from my 10mm I'll get my 44 mag out of the safe. I've got hand loads that are pushing 240 JHP's at 1800 fps at a grain or so under maximum load. But I believe the 10mm will handle any reasonable requirement for EDC. The 44 mag is a lot harder to EDC with the long barrel. But now if we're talking hunting only the 44 mag has always got the job done.
@The Darkness Came Since the 500SW had been available some guys in Alaska put their 44mags away, yet a lot of guys, I understand carry the 10mm as well. I suppose you cover all bases in Alaska with the 500SW, 10mm and a 45/70 lever action. Grizzlies and vagrant thugs beware!
@@MybeautifulandamazingPrincess You can shoot powerful rounds or just reduced recoil loads. Thats versatile. You can't do that in a semi auto. In a firefigt lets say self defend scenario, if you need more than 3 or 4 shoots I guess you'll be better served with an assault rifle.
I'm not sure how this is a real comparison. Different barrel lengths, and bullet grains. I'd think to be a more accurate test they should be as equal as possible to get the best results. But I myself have several .357 in varying models, makers, barrel lengths, and use a multitude of different ammo as it's readily available. I just love the old wheelguns and love their reliability.
@kirby road. The issue with that (imo) is that no matter how similar you get them it's still not going to matter much. Comparing 357 mag to 10mm even if utilizing the same bullet weights be it high or low grains & same length barrels it's still going to yield much different results because there still different bullets. Don't get me wrong. Shooting things with different bullet calibers is awesome. I like doing it myself. The reality is as long as your using these types of bullets for human defense your going to be fine. When defending yourself against large predator type animals in the woods stick with the big bullets such as 41 or 44 mag or 460 or 454 etc etc when using a handgun which I'd never recommend in the 1st place. I know people will tell me they or someone they know killed a black bear with a 22LR or 9mm due to shot placement etc etc. my problem with that is do you really want to bet your life or worse a family members life on your ability to have outstanding shoot placement. I know everyone on the internet has 1"groups @ 300 yards with a 45 acp & 9&10 mm's & all but when reality strikes & it's just you & that bear do you really want to square off with a 9 or 10 mm when you could be using a 308 or 3006, a 7mm08 a 45/70 or a slew of other more than capable rounds that will allow for a much better margin of error? I'm certain some are ok with that. Then again I've never really been much of a gambling man especially as it pertains to my family. Btw none of this was meant to be condescending. It's just my option.
I'm with you. Time and again I see the 357 Magnum outperforming the 10mm. My first handgun in the mid 60s was a Colt Trooper 357 with a 6" barrel. Today I have a Taurus Model 627 Trooper with a 4" barrel, very much like your Model 66. Their hits are devastating.
The 357 doesnt outperform the 10mm though. Use similar rounds and then compare. There is a reason people are starting to use the 10mm for bear defense and not the 357
@@elphi4321 I suspect the range from .38 Special to full strength .357 Mag, which can all be fired in the same revolver, is wider than the 10 mm power span.
I have a 10mm, but this video is a great demo of why my carry gun is a .357 taurus 605 poly protect. This damage plus being able to also scale down to .38+p when I want a lighter load. The magnum I carry when hunting in case of bears or wolves, the +p for around town when 2 legged predators are a concern. One gun, twice the versatility.
@@johnholbrook6042 not universal across all 10mm guns, whereas all 357 revolvers and even lever guns will run 38s. true universal compatibility, not "some 10s run 40 OK most of the time" which is the case with 40 and 10. Don't get me wrong I like 10 and 40, but until it's universal, I will stick to my 357 and 38.
If I was going with a revolver, I’d go .44 mag. I know that .357 mag can be more powerful than 10mm, but I don’t know if it’s close enough to justify cutting your capacity in half. With .44 mag, there might be some justification when weighing power vs capacity depending on what you plan on doing with the given gun.
I'm a .357 guy. I have a Smith 66-2 that is smooth like buttah. But I'd really like to see what the 10 does without that hat. Pretty good indention from it, and I think that weight on top might've held it together a bit. Dadgum that was fun!
I think if you had used a heaver bullet in the .357 the results would have been more similar. The 125 gr. bullet in the 357 exploded and the 10mm passed through for deeper penetration.
This is an outstanding demonstration of slo-mo and how much damage can be inflicted with a big caliber handgun. I know this is 9-10 months ago and I just watched it, but it’s still as educational and entertaining as the first day it was posted.
The .357 Magnum 125 grain HP is the man stopper that all other defensive rounds are compared to. It was dubbed, “The King Of The Street “ for a reason back in the 1970’s.
I agree with the comments that the 357 hit the clay high. Obviously they both did considerable, impressive, damage. But, shot placement might explain the different effect on the clay.
@@FUW-guy Why not just go for the 500SW at that point...LOL! What a massive jump just the 454 is to the 44mag! Almost twice the energy, 900ft-lbs vs 1,700ft-lbs, never mind 2,300ft-lbs for the 500SW! I have talked to guys online from Alaska that have replaced their 44’s with 500’s though. That along with 10mm’s and 45/70 lever actions. That’s the armed to the teeth Alaska bushman!
I disagree. Your suggestion would essentially be this same test in reverse. I believe the best comparison of these two hot rounds would be .357 125 grain (same as here) vs 10mm 155 grain. Biggest problem these days would be finding a decent 155 gr loading for the 10mm. It's really a shame but the .40 S&W essentially killed the 10mm because so many people can't handle the longer grip length in the latter caliber. For many years 10mm was my go-to round, but I don't reload and factory ammo choices got fewer and way more expensive to shoot; and if you can't practice you can't hit
Underwood ammo is the shiiiiznit, stupid fast in 9x25 Dillon and doesn't even flatten the primers. Price isn't even crazy high (or wasn't before this recent insanity)
@@marcialdospuforini1197 I think they are referring to the amount of energy generated by each round but in my experiences they are about equal in terms of effectiveness just depends if u rather carry a revolver or an auto loader really
@@VroomNBoom Actually he didn't. Go back and check your facts, the most most common (and original) loading for the .357 magnum is a 158 grain bullet. So he was shooting the "most common" loading for the 10mm (but not the best performing) against the best performing .357 load. The comparable load for a 10mm would use a 155 or 165 grain bullet, that's where you'll see it's best potential for the same type of explosive expansion
When I carried my 357 Magnum, I always had 158 grain semi-jacketed hollow points in it. Back then we only had about 3 different ammo makers to choose from, Winchester, Remington, and Federal. I preferred the Winchester Super X and Remington Peters over the Federal ammo. The Super X 158 grain SJHP really packed a wallop when it hit even at a distance.
Did you see any clay go up at all? No, thats because the clay pigeon absorbed alot of the energy going up. Plus he use a revolver with the .357 and he used a semi auto with the 10mm. The 10mms action absorbed energy unlike the revolvers. So ya I think it was a unfair test.
@Edmondson Avenue The factory 45 Colt + P Ammo is well beyond the 357 Magnum and 10MM Auto are in terms of power. The muzzle energy and velocities are very similar to the 44 Remington Magnum.
The 357 is the most versatile hand gun there . Well I'm not up on all the new polymer guns but for many years it held that title . I got rid of my Taurus model 627 cause it would lock up occasionally between rounds . So I got a rugar GP 100 w/ 6 in barrel . Now I'm happy !
@@juanpablosaenzcastaneda4643 10mm solids are carried up here in AK for moose and bear protection pretty readily. More so than the .357. Not saying the .357 is weak, but ya get more rounds with a 10mm, and generally a bit better energy.
You can get magazine baseplate extensions for the Glock 20 that gives you like 20+ rounds of 10mm without making the package too big. Absolutely beast of a round.
10mm generally has more muzzle energy but 357 mag generally has higher velocity. Personally I prefer 10mm but both are extremely effective pistol calibers.
@@boomerisadog3899 No. The .357 generally has more muzzle energy when they have the same barrel length. When it come to incapacitation, short of a rifle, they do not get more effective.
Two of my favorites,but in the end I'm a 10mm guy. Versatility is plain awesome in that platform. And it can be loaded up or down depending on the need. What I would love to see is a comparison of 10mm ammunition ex: civil liberty 60grn verses,a middleweight and then a heavy 180 or 200 trainer. Clay blocks ballistic gel etc. Maybe you have done that already?
Ditto, 10mm fan myself said basically the same thing. 357 a great round for almost 90 years probably shot my dad's S&W model 28 Highway Patrolman probably 1000 times. Now I like my Colt Delta Gold Cup 10mm big carry weapon though. Had since 90 wasn't many choices for 10mm then, thankfully larger selection now.
I'm also an admirer of John Moses Browning and his timeless masterpiece, the 1911...in .45ACP, .38 Super Auto, or converted to 9x19 or .22LR. Versatile weapon, the 1911.
10mm is great because you have more rounds in the magazine, as opposed to six in a revolver. That being said, of you can't solve the problem with six rounds of .357 magnum, then you have bigger issues than any handgun is capable of, and you need a rifle.
I'd love to see the underwood 135 grain 10mm. 1600 fps, and 767 ft lbs. I think this would go radically different. The speed of the 125 gr .357 vs the what was it? 180/185 gr 10mm is pretty profound. Underwood calls their 135 gr their "funky little hand grenade". Seeing that on clay would be a trip.
Shot a groundhog head on with one out of a commander 1911..did not die quickly. Really glad it wasn't a pissed off bear! I'm looking at the 165gr bonded now rated at 1400fps.
I own a Taurus .357 Mag and a Taurus .44 Mag, and also own a 10mm Glock 20. But in all honesty, as much as I like the Magnums, 10mm is still my favorite round because of it's combination of ballistic performance and power, it's just one hell of a beast of a round.
10mm was a more direct hit. .357 was up high, just a bit, which made it look more powerful. The 357 had a lot of clay left at the base whereas the 10mm had less. I wonder which caliber made the clay block weight less.
I have a xdm 5.25 10mm and shot extreme hunter Underwood ammo through 6 one inch pieces of planed hardwood. They all made it too the 5th & 6th and when dug the bullets out they still looked brand new. Zero scuffs scratches or any visible damage.
With a revolver, you don't have to check if a rd. is chambered, etc.. But if you fire that Magnum inside a closed area, car, in the house, your ears will ring for a week if you lucky. So I keep 38spl. +P's in my Ruger w/speed loader of magnums!
I own both 10mm and 357. Both rounds are more than adequate for home defense!!! Weight and Velocity are certainly the key ingredients when it comes to performance. I love shooting underwood ammo in both these calibers (coonan 357 and glock 29). Hot ammo for sure!!!! A++++ Nice video!!!! 👍
I have both .357 S&W 6 inch 7 round and two glock 10mm and I love them both They both have the "ONE BULLET STOPPING POWER" effect and both are very accurate Subbed............Regards, POPS
Note to self. Never get shot by a 357 or a 10mm.
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I wouldn't even want to get shot with a #8 50 yards down the range. Not a big pain guy
@@FUW-guy
I dont even like being shot by a paintball gun
@@WHOTEEWHO I prefer 357 but bullet choice is everything and of course accuracy so get ya ass to put in range time to become more proficient shot but can I say a bigger clay block to capture slugs see if they performed as they should. Winchester ranger t series hollow point are great rounds be great to see video testing them bad ass rounds in any caliber 👍🇮🇹🦊🐾🇬🇧
I wouldn’t want to get shot by a 45 automatic either slower moving bullet but almost twice as large and weight 100% energy transfer no chance of it passing through you get the full affect
357 since that is what I was issued as a Deputy Sheriff back in prehistoric times. Always felt safe with that Model 19 back then.
Same here, might have been prehistoric then, but the numbers still work.... and I still carry a 4" .357 Magnum today.
I carried a nickel 19 bull barrel as my first duty gun as a deputy sheriff as well. I later traded it on a 686, which I still have. It was the last wheel gun I carried before my agency went to semi-autos. 31 years later, still on the job and I still have 4 of the duty guns I carried during that time.
Me too.
.357magnum prehistoric times?
.45acp is older.
9x19 is older still.
@@raybates3119 Never can you go wrong with a S & W 686 !! Thank you for all your years of service. 👍🏻 Please continue to stay safe. All the best from Alabama 🙏
It's hard to say, .357 exploded the block but the 10mm took at least half the block into the next county.
Badass honors to both! 👍🇺🇲
Try cooling down the clay first!!
I still love my 41mag it might be a little over kill! But when you need it!!it got your back!!!
@@markstomberg1384 in the day of Fred Flintstone long before the internet when hard cast and Winchester Silvertip bullets were
King, 44 mag didn't beat 41mag by much.
@@jimmybare3026 i owned both 44and 41 the 41shot flatter than 44 with. A lot less kick!!
It would be helpful to compare a 158 gr .357 to 155 gr. 100 to get a closer comparison. 125 gr hp has a crazy amount of energy and gets maximum expansion and energy dump. A180 gr 10 mm won’t expand as much and will penetrate more.
.357 on your side, 10 mm on Shoulder Holster..got a Win-Win there!
I’m a 10mm fan myself but that 357 was impressive for sure! Thank you for the video
Thanks for watching Michael!
Looks like high capacity and quick reloading is a 10mm win.
10 went through 357 stopped is why
there are ported barrel version of 357 mag with 8 shot capacity from Taurus. There are 8 shot version from S&W as well. 357 mag is a good choice of wood defense when you are carrying 8 instead of 5 or 6
Looks like that Liquid Metal Terminator when it was shot in the movie
Yes it did!
That's exactly what I thought!😆
Totally thought that too
10mm like T2 exactly
You mean the T1000??lol
The damage is more about velocity. Load a 155 in 10mm, and a 158 in the 357, and youll have a fair comparison. Keep up the videos, good to see the splatter.
Yessir
not to mention the 10 coming out of that short barrel
100% Comparisons between different guns, different grains, different barrel lengths is like... well, we know what it's like. I was drinking tequila that night so of course I outperformed the guy with the bigger clay block. ;-)
@@Wildwestwrangler The first two rounds in my 10mm are Underwood using Lehigh Defense 115 grain Xtreme Defense bullets. Use them because they are barrier blind and don't deform if I have to shoot though walls, doors or cars. Underwood rates them at 1,700 fps and 738 ft. lbs of energy at the muzzle. They are cooking and create a gigantic temporary shock cavity / hydrostatic shock. I back them up with Underwood using Hornady XTP bullets rated at 1,500 fps and 775ft. lbs. 10mm is the best mm.
That would NOT be a fair comparison. Every bullet has an optimal weight per powder charge. For 10mm, that's 165gr (.40 is better with 155).
For .357 that's 125gr.
You can deviate from those up or down, but you'll see diminishing gains in actual energy delivered on target.
The 10 mm needs velocity try the 155 grain loads hollow point
Velocity equals energy
I would think it’s more about the difference between a revolver and a semi auto. Both rounds are very capable.
The differences were due to shot placement and the mass of the "hat". The energy that opened up the block with the 357 launched the "hat" instead.
If he's using underwood ammunition that 10 mm was going around 1300 fps.
And use the .357 185 grain hollow point hunting rounds
Yup, you hit both. The 357 appeared to hit in the top third while the 10mm was pretty close to dead center.
If they both hit dead center, I think the pattern of destruction would be similar, with the 10mm hole being larger. I can’t say how much larger due to the dynamics of speed vs mass and different bullet sharpe.
The energy dump for both is huge and way more than than needed for self defense in most cases.
It’s always cool to watch clay blocks being blown away. Another “fun video.”
That's why 10mm is known as a bear round. I always have my 10mm 1911 on me when I go into the woods.
I was very impressed the other day when you shot the 357 Sig. Something that I never considered, now I do will be adding one to the collection next month.
That .357 reminded me of Wyatt's line from Tombstone.
"Your friends might get me in a rush, but not before I turn your head into a canoe." 🤠
Yesssss 🙏🏻🤠
great line
That's right.
I bought a 686 a few days ago and my fiancé quoted that and wanted to watch tombstone after, so,e girls really like the wheel guns
Good call!
That sure was fun to watch! I love the feel of firing a .357 mag. Never shot a deer with one. I got a 10mm shot on a young buck once. One round to the neck and he was dead as fried chicken! The hole looked similar to that clay. Left a hole big enough to put a soda can through.
Thanks for doing this one and sharing it with us!
I’ve got an ole’ 30-06’, that will set them down, big time! But, much bigger round. I’ve shot just about everything up & including .35 caliber rifles, 30, 31, 32, 33’s, 348, 35 Wheelin, & REM. I had a Taurus Tracker Mod 627 in .357 Mag no scope, open sights. I was setting in my stand and 2 does came trotting by @ 20yrds, shot her in the neck w/Semi-Jacketed HP, 158grains. I’ve never seen a deer drop that fast, (a close 2nd is w/my .260 Rem. cause of insane penetration, I almost decapitated a young ButtonBuck w/139gr Lapua Scenar(not a hunting round)!! I felt awful for what that round did to that little deer, even though death was instantaneous). My oldest son dropped a (dry-146 Net), 150 class buck w/a .260Rem, he weighed at the locker plant 239lbs, gutted! Big ole buck never took a step! Ole buck been on trail cam 4yrs. My middle son shot a killed a doe w/his Taurus Model 809 semi-auto. Same result, dropped dead in her tracks! All I know is that a .357 & calibers in this “sweet spot”, are deadly for some reason. The 9mm is .355 in S.A.E., measurements so don’t dismiss the 9mm! I have 9mm factory ammo (specialty ammo), that generates 515lbs of energy. Your talking .357 territory there. So who knows? Lol
Sounds like a good way to ruin any chance of a neck roast. LOL
Supposed to shoot em in the head or heart.. plus 10mm is barely legal in any state to take down deer
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I would not want to be on the business end of either of those!
Nope
That was my thought
The only use for 10mm or magnum is for hunting, if you hit a person with either round, regardless if it's in self defense, you're going to jail
@@MybeautifulandamazingPrincessWhy would the use of caliber determine that you are going to jail? With the right loads either one is a great EDC. Round.i personally carry a kimber rapide in 10mm with 165 gr xtp bullets!
@@chrishousewright9346 I also carry a 10mm, 200gr gold dot
Great flick! .357 is by far my favorite. However, That 10mm is a force to be reckoned with too.
I love them all!
With the really hot load underwood ammo the 10mm is becoming the fast favorite for grizzly protection, from what I heard. The lighter gun is easier to carry than the revolvers that the 44 magnums and bigger shoots in.
I'm a 357 magnum fan, but I guess the 10mm can work better when the right ammo is used.
I would choose the 357 magnum, because I loved shooting the one I had years ago.
Hi, WTW. All I can say is, I laughed out loud when that 357 blew the clay to smithereens. I had no idea what was going to happen and I got an education. Thanks for sharing! Stay healthy!
I'm a .357 guy all the way because of it's versatility. I practice a lot with .38 Special loads in a .357 chambered weapon but when it's show time it's .357 time. I'd love to see an addition to this video and that would be the same .357 cartridge fired out of a 20 inch barreled rifle. The increased velocity makes a big difference. Great video.
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From 110gr to 200gr, it's super versatile. 158gr loads in Buffalo Bore run nearly 2200 fps in a 20" barrel.
Buffalo Bore 180gr runs 1500 fps from a 6" Ruger.
Wheel Guns are like Mullets, You can Run .38 first three Round in the cylinder to stop the party.
.357 Last three chambers when you want to get down to business.
Yeah grew up on .38 .357...
That was a full house magnun. I love it!!!! The 10mm is no slouch either.
😆 The first shot showed me everything I needed to know/everything I already knew. Demonstratios are awesome!
I've always preferred the 357. Wicked fun round to shoot. Very fun video, Whooty
That 10 mm result was cool!
The .357 magnum didn`t disappoint at all either!
Nice one, Adam!
this makes me want a DE in 357, just scary power in a handgun
@@smolboyi With some hot 10mm loads, you're gonna have more power than a 357 magnum, it sounds crazy, but when 10mm came out it was some really hot stuff. The FBI rejected 10mm because the recoil was too much for their agents
@@connergarlock771 The search for hot 10s begins! Also I need a gun to shoot them haha.
I mean whatever he's shooting here though, the 357s are hotter, no?
I’ve got two hips, why not carry both?
@@smolboyi Im not sure, the 357 is definitely higher in velocity but as far as foot pounds go, I dunno. It all depends on the ammo you're using
Both the .357 Magnum and Underwood 10 mm unleashed some devastating energy on those blocks of clay . Thanks for the video .
I've already got a couple of 10mm's. Now I want a .357, too!
I love the 357, but I'm a 10mm guy to the end. The stopping power difference between the two seems negligible overall, and either is honestly more than suitable for self-defense, whether it'd be against a person or bear! I simply just prefer the lesser recoil (thus more follow up shots) and the higher 15 round capacity of the 10mm in my Glock 20. Not to mention it's noticebly cheaper than a 357 here in Wisconsin at least. I bought my Glock 20 for about $650, while the price of a 357 Magnum was anywhere from $950 up to $1,300.
plz do not kill a bear
The clay responded differently to each round. I don't think that one is better than the other. Both are devastating.
My reply was basically : a bad guy, or critter, wouldn't even know the difference.
I own both a .357 snubnose revolver and a 10mm glock 29 semi auto. They're both great and devastating, but the.357 is slightly more powerful however I only get 5 rounds, but the 10mm has 10 or 15 depending on the magazine.
I usually carry the. 357 because it is smaller and more concealable, but if I'm on a road trip or in a bad neighborhood I could use the 10mm.
10 mm more powerful
The local hobby store has got to see what your doing with all that clay lol
@James_wingthwong_ Banks the little girl is probably explaining to her parents what they’re doing with it lol. “Oh, that’s Who_Tee_Who and he’s just making another really fun video”
Fire that exploded clay in a kiln and call it a mag-art sculpture. Lol
Hard to beat a 357mag.Time after time the 357 has come thru for me with flying colors.
Cool test. Would love to see Underwoods 135 gr Nosler at 1600 fps hit that clay.
There’s a reason why the .357 is legendary.
Yes, it's legendary because chumps still think it's any good. F'in boomer turd caliber
@@matsgranqvist9928 I can tell you dont know shit about guns
@@jerrydelp7973 you can do better sweetie
Well there is a reason why that they say that with all the calibers out there, that 125 grain jacketed hollow point in .357 is still the number one man stopper.
I really wouldn't want to get hit with either round though!!!
@@matsgranqvist9928 so what’s your “legendary” round? 9mm? 😆 lol 357 might not be the best but it’s still a hot freakin round that annihilates whatever it hits (like most bullets tend to do)
I routinely carry both calibers, The 357 Mag. 125 gr. hollow point has long been recognized as the round with the most one shot stops. That said a 180 gr. 10mm at 1200 fps isn't a slouch either. The main difference is in the platform. Although they do make 357 autos, and a 10mm revolver they are not your normal concealed carry weapons. I do believe the 10mm would be a much better round if you were worried about a bear attack.
my Buffalo Bore 180 grain .357 chronos at 1500fps from a 6" barrel K-frame. 180 grain at 1500fps > 180 grain at 1200fps all day, every day, any day.
Enjoyed this immensely. Carried
.357 for 13 years on patrol. Never let me down.
Thanks for watching Martin
37 yrs. this month on the street, 357mag./10mm carry both. IMO to close to call, only reason i switched from 357 to 10mm was 46 rds vs 18 rds.
Hi Mr Colvill, I thought you would be a good person to pose this thought's legitimacy to: I know 9mm is a faster flying round and gets great penetration. However, if I'm in a gunfight, I would rather make it harder for my opponent to successfully establish a good firing line/aim on me by throwing off his/her aim every time one of my rounds hit the opponent. The 9 does more penetration, but does it go thru too fast as a lighter bullet and thus, does nothing to throw off their aim due to the physics involved? The Cult of Luger, as I call them, loves skilling up till they can shoot 5 rounds off accurately around 1.5 secs. That does a great deal of damage to their opponent, but it requires them spend more time with their aim on that target before moving to the next. I think you could juggle two opponents theoretically putting a shot in each of them while moving to cancel out the "you get one but the other gets you" problem with a big caliber, plus you do more damage per round even if you have fewer rounds. And what about body armor? If I hit armor with a 10mm or .357, it would still impact hard enough the majority of times (depending on the mass and forward motion of the opponent) to force the opponent to regain line of fire. You dont have to throw aim off by much to cause them to miss. So, move more (till you get good cover), shoot less than 5 rounds a second, but hit them well with a big caliber. Therefore, penetration isn't the only thing that's important in a gunfight, but also impact effect to make it hard for the opponent to return fire successfully. Did your duty experience, or what you heard with officers using .357/10mm, match this scenario?
@@doates1670 Hi Mr Oates, I wrote a long but I think very good question to Mr Colvill that I'd appreciate your input on based on your real world experience and that of others you know who use big calibers over 9mm.
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I've seen peeps shot with 9mm keep firing back but those hit with .357 go down because of speed and weight. I mostly carry .45 cal now due to capacity. The 9mm will work but I'll take weight over speed. Just my humble opinion. Hope this helps.
This is about to be a fun video
I agree
Me too
Really fun
I've suggested this before but I'd like to throw in a reminder.... In the future would you Please put a stack of paper plates behind the clay (or water jugs, etc) to catch the rounds so we can see how much penetration power the rounds still have after passing through the first target.🙂 That would really increase the awesome\interesting\fun factor of an already great video. Thanks W-T-W!😉👍
I love both the .357 and 10mm. Both have comparable energy. When it comes to Bear Medicine though I'll still pack my .44 loaded with REALLY NASTY HPR rounds!!! A very wicked combo!!! Good video!!!
At least you used full power 10mm ammo, but I'm going with the .357 Magnum Gold Dot.
AWESOME 👏.357 is a “Deer Round”...
Let that be your guide... & don’t forget “Hot rounds” Hand Loaded...
10mm has become one of the most popular rounds for bear defense unless you're using a wheel gun then usually 44 mag is the minimum used going up to 454 or 500, but not everyone can shoot those large calibers well. 357 mag is more of a hog or deer round. But I get your point, deer are typically much harder to drop than most predators you would ever face on the street so therefore it's very adequate as well.
In 10mm the 200 or 220 grain hard cast or FMJ hot loads works very well on bear.
@@duaneadkins1261 that’s right. I hear that a lot of people are using the 500!mag “Bear Edition” as well. It’s a shirt barrel (probably not fun to shoot) in their backpacks. They say it has around 2,700 Foot pounds of pressure (equal to a 12 gauge slug) Which is BONE crushing power. Anyways, good travels my man 👍
IMHO 357 magnum: always get a huge amount of confidence, The most versatile handgun caliber and one of the best manstopper ever made.
@Sooner Longbow lol
@Sooner Longbow if I need anything hotter than my 1300+ fps, 180 gr JHP from my 10mm I'll get my 44 mag out of the safe. I've got hand loads that are pushing 240 JHP's at 1800 fps at a grain or so under maximum load. But I believe the 10mm will handle any reasonable requirement for EDC. The 44 mag is a lot harder to EDC with the long barrel. But now if we're talking hunting only the 44 mag has always got the job done.
@The Darkness Came
Since the 500SW had been available some guys in Alaska put their 44mags away, yet a lot of guys, I understand carry the 10mm as well. I suppose you cover all bases in Alaska with the 500SW, 10mm and a 45/70 lever action. Grizzlies and vagrant thugs beware!
How is it versatile if it only fits in revolvers? Good luck trying to reload a revolver in a fire fight. That's not exactly what I'd call versatile
@@MybeautifulandamazingPrincess You can shoot powerful rounds or just reduced recoil loads. Thats versatile. You can't do that in a semi auto. In a firefigt lets say self defend scenario, if you need more than 3 or 4 shoots I guess you'll be better served with an assault rifle.
I'm not sure how this is a real comparison. Different barrel lengths, and bullet grains. I'd think to be a more accurate test they should be as equal as possible to get the best results. But I myself have several .357 in varying models, makers, barrel lengths, and use a multitude of different ammo as it's readily available. I just love the old wheelguns and love their reliability.
@kirby road. The issue with that (imo) is that no matter how similar you get them it's still not going to matter much. Comparing 357 mag to 10mm even if utilizing the same bullet weights be it high or low grains & same length barrels it's still going to yield much different results because there still different bullets. Don't get me wrong. Shooting things with different bullet calibers is awesome. I like doing it myself. The reality is as long as your using these types of bullets for human defense your going to be fine. When defending yourself against large predator type animals in the woods stick with the big bullets such as 41 or 44 mag or 460 or 454 etc etc when using a handgun which I'd never recommend in the 1st place. I know people will tell me they or someone they know killed a black bear with a 22LR or 9mm due to shot placement etc etc. my problem with that is do you really want to bet your life or worse a family members life on your ability to have outstanding shoot placement. I know everyone on the internet has 1"groups @ 300 yards with a 45 acp & 9&10 mm's & all but when reality strikes & it's just you & that bear do you really want to square off with a 9 or 10 mm when you could be using a 308 or 3006, a 7mm08 a 45/70 or a slew of other more than capable rounds that will allow for a much better margin of error? I'm certain some are ok with that. Then again I've never really been much of a gambling man especially as it pertains to my family. Btw none of this was meant to be condescending. It's just my option.
I'm with you. Time and again I see the 357 Magnum outperforming the 10mm. My first handgun in the mid 60s was a Colt Trooper 357 with a 6" barrel. Today I have a Taurus Model 627 Trooper with a 4" barrel, very much like your Model 66. Their hits are devastating.
The 357 doesnt outperform the 10mm though. Use similar rounds and then compare. There is a reason people are starting to use the 10mm for bear defense and not the 357
@@200130769 --Shoot both into side of a Tree, see which one knocks the most Bark Off, the 357 will Win!
@@randybeard6040 no it does not. The 10mm can send a heavier bullet faster.
@@200130769 it absolutely out performs the 10mm 😂 more energy, more velocity and more penetration.
@@200130769 I’m shooting 125 gr .357 underwood defense ammo at 1770 fps and 802 ft-lbs of energy. 10mm gets close but .357 mag out does it
My vote goes to old school .357 all the way. However, 10mm was interesting.
Ya mine too, I’ve three of em, but I’m still after that Glock 20
I’d say they’d both do the job. Any job.
The beauty of the 10mm, is that it comes in many different strengths, from a peppy 9mm to 41MAG (bear medicine). FYI, that 357 is no slouch!
@Sooner Longbow it would be so minute to be measurable I believe
@@elphi4321 I suspect the range from .38 Special to full strength .357 Mag, which can all be fired in the same revolver, is wider than the 10 mm power span.
The 357 destroyed the clay block love it the 10 mm is a good round love them both
I’m definitely a 357 man.
Good round, but I lean more towards the 10mm
@@Trentcollier can’t go wrong with either one.
Also a 357 fan, but I go one step further, 357 maximum. Makes for an accurate 200m wheel gun (off a rest ofc, was made for silhouette shooting).
@@towermonkey5563 I wish they still made 357 max......would love one of them!
357 Mag is the the greatest
I have a 10mm, but this video is a great demo of why my carry gun is a .357 taurus 605 poly protect. This damage plus being able to also scale down to .38+p when I want a lighter load. The magnum I carry when hunting in case of bears or wolves, the +p for around town when 2 legged predators are a concern. One gun, twice the versatility.
I carry the 605 as well. I load .357 magnum when in the sticks and .38 +P when in town. Very dependable gun.
The 10 also is variable with 40 cal
@@johnholbrook6042 not universal across all 10mm guns, whereas all 357 revolvers and even lever guns will run 38s. true universal compatibility, not "some 10s run 40 OK most of the time" which is the case with 40 and 10. Don't get me wrong I like 10 and 40, but until it's universal, I will stick to my 357 and 38.
If I was going with a revolver, I’d go .44 mag. I know that .357 mag can be more powerful than 10mm, but I don’t know if it’s close enough to justify cutting your capacity in half. With .44 mag, there might be some justification when weighing power vs capacity depending on what you plan on doing with the given gun.
Danggg-gone lol!!! That was a surprising result. That 357 was a hoss!!! Really cool video. That clay is an awesome target. Thanks
I'm a .357 guy. I have a Smith 66-2 that is smooth like buttah. But I'd really like to see what the 10 does without that hat. Pretty good indention from it, and I think that weight on top might've held it together a bit.
Dadgum that was fun!
I think if you had used a heaver bullet in the .357 the results would have been more similar. The 125 gr. bullet in the 357 exploded and the 10mm passed through for deeper penetration.
This is an outstanding demonstration of slo-mo and how much damage can be inflicted with a big caliber handgun. I know this is 9-10 months ago and I just watched it, but it’s still as educational and entertaining as the first day it was posted.
The .357 Magnum 125 grain HP is the man stopper that all other defensive rounds are compared to.
It was dubbed, “The King Of The Street “ for a reason back in the 1970’s.
WOW! That .357 was devastating. The 10mm is no slouch, but the .357 just wiped it. Good one, WHO_TEE_WHO!
Needs to try a real 10mm load. 357 dont compare
Hunted with 357 mag. Does some damage to moose and bears. Love them both
Why you killing animals ?
@@Зайчик-в3е we don’t have a large story in our area. It’s no different then killing a pig, cow or chickens for food.
I watched the playback and you shot high on the .357. Like you said, "I shoot the 10mm Better", And You Did!
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I agree with the comments that the 357 hit the clay high. Obviously they both did considerable, impressive, damage. But, shot placement might explain the different effect on the clay.
Both great defensive rounds no doubt about it . These two cartridges are what you call man stoppers .
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Both instant destruction, but that .357 was extremely impressive!
Have you tried 44 mag vs 454 casull? That would be a really fun video
I one up this! I almost brought a 454 casull today
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Why not just go for the 500SW at that point...LOL! What a massive jump just the 454 is to the 44mag! Almost twice the energy, 900ft-lbs vs 1,700ft-lbs, never mind 2,300ft-lbs for the 500SW!
I have talked to guys online from Alaska that have replaced their 44’s with 500’s though. That along with 10mm’s and 45/70 lever actions. That’s the armed to the teeth Alaska bushman!
Love any caliber of firearm . Just getting into 10mm.
Rounds too expensive
@@nitewatchman1576 not when you reload for it.
@@nitewatchman1576 you can buy from underwood ammo for 18.50 per box
Ok so the next test should be the same 357 vs 10mm 158 vs 155 grain underwood to get a more realistic comparison
I disagree. Your suggestion would essentially be this same test in reverse. I believe the best comparison of these two hot rounds would be .357 125 grain (same as here) vs 10mm 155 grain. Biggest problem these days would be finding a decent 155 gr loading for the 10mm. It's really a shame but the .40 S&W essentially killed the 10mm because so many people can't handle the longer grip length in the latter caliber. For many years 10mm was my go-to round, but I don't reload and factory ammo choices got fewer and way more expensive to shoot; and if you can't practice you can't hit
Underwood ammo is the shiiiiznit, stupid fast in 9x25 Dillon and doesn't even flatten the primers. Price isn't even crazy high (or wasn't before this recent insanity)
Actually this test was about as realistic as u can get he used the most common grain weight ammo for both calibers
@@marcialdospuforini1197 I think they are referring to the amount of energy generated by each round but in my experiences they are about equal in terms of effectiveness just depends if u rather carry a revolver or an auto loader really
@@VroomNBoom Actually he didn't. Go back and check your facts, the most most common (and original) loading for the .357 magnum is a 158 grain bullet. So he was shooting the "most common" loading for the 10mm (but not the best performing) against the best performing .357 load. The comparable load for a 10mm would use a 155 or 165 grain bullet, that's where you'll see it's best potential for the same type of explosive expansion
When I carried my 357 Magnum, I always had 158 grain semi-jacketed hollow points in it. Back then we only had about 3 different ammo makers to choose from, Winchester, Remington, and Federal. I preferred the Winchester Super X and Remington Peters over the Federal ammo. The Super X 158 grain SJHP really packed a wallop when it hit even at a distance.
.357 magnum once again! I sure love and trust mine. S&W Mod60 3". Its a little cannon for sure!
Haha, I got the 6" model 66. That trigger is sensitive. I've had a round go off a little earlier than I wanted
They are pretty good
@@WHOTEEWHO no complaints here. Shoots well. 38spl feels like a 22 out of that thing
As they say speed kills! Speed turns a .22LR round into a 5.56 weapon of war.
Ya but not in an AR 15 .......... yes in the m16 or m-4 the military SELECT FIRE WEAPONS. In case any boneheaded democrats are watching.
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The cap you had on the clay when shooting the 10mm absorbed a lot of the energy going up.
Did you see any clay go up at all? No, thats because the clay pigeon absorbed alot of the energy going up. Plus he use a revolver with the .357 and he used a semi auto with the 10mm. The 10mms action absorbed energy unlike the revolvers. So ya I think it was a unfair test.
I don't think a follow up shot would be needed with either caliber.. There is only one degree of dead.
Used to carry that exact same pistol when I worked in LE. Love the caliber, hate the gun.
I plan on getting the S&W version.
Have you looked at the Ruger SP series of magnum? guns, I love Ruger revolvers better than S&W, give them a look see.
I think if you had used a 155 gr 10mm load , or a 158 gr .357 mag load , results would have been similar .
Awesome vid !! I would like to see what the 45 colt would do to a clay block.
@Edmondson Avenue The + P rounds are like the 44 Magnum.
@@stephencollins2858 I had to fact check you and found that youre absolutely right haha. Cool round, should obliterate that clay
@Edmondson Avenue The factory 45 Colt + P Ammo is well beyond the 357 Magnum and 10MM Auto are in terms of power. The muzzle energy and velocities are very similar to the 44 Remington Magnum.
"Let's see if I can hit this thing square in the middle... probably not"... oh my, I'm still laughing. You're alright.
The 357 is the most versatile hand gun there . Well I'm not up on all the new polymer guns but for many years it held that title .
I got rid of my Taurus model 627 cause it would lock up occasionally between rounds . So I got a rugar GP 100 w/ 6 in barrel . Now I'm happy !
10mm a little less eventful but I'd feel comfortable with either one in the woods.
@Jake Widme I think that he knows what HE'S doing. Either way is a good example of what the heavy round would do to some thick boned animal
@Jake Widme besides that the standard for 10 mm is 180 grains same with 40 caliber. 165 and 135 grains are on the light-faster side.
@@juanpablosaenzcastaneda4643 10mm solids are carried up here in AK for moose and bear protection pretty readily. More so than the .357. Not saying the .357 is weak, but ya get more rounds with a 10mm, and generally a bit better energy.
@@MrJonrocker depends on the ammo slection brother.
@Jake Widme jajajaja wtf 12000 ft-lbs???? 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣
Big fan of both rounds,but I carry a 10 with supreme confidence.i would like to see what happens when you use same grain and muzzle velocity comparo.
Would be interesting to see what would happen to a gel block placed behind the clay block!
Man im really digging this dudes energy.. 1rst video of urs I watch.. Instantly like ur vibe.
You can get magazine baseplate extensions for the Glock 20 that gives you like 20+ rounds of 10mm without making the package too big. Absolutely beast of a round.
.357 all the way. I carry a .357 snubby when I need to.💪💥
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Same!
You need some barrel to make that 357 work correctly. Mine has a 4" barrel. Model 19 - 3 Smith and Wesson.
What I like better? .357 for revolvers, 10mm for pistols. My favorite calibers.
I'll choose .357 every time. Maybe it's the history, maybe it's the fudd in me.
10mm generally has more muzzle energy but 357 mag generally has higher velocity. Personally I prefer 10mm but both are extremely effective pistol calibers.
"Be vewwwy quiet..."
@@boomerisadog3899 No. The .357 generally has more muzzle energy when they have the same barrel length. When it come to incapacitation, short of a rifle, they do not get more effective.
I'll take 357 magnum all day everyday because of it's fearsome reputation of being a one hit stopper.
@@JohnLloydScharf From what I've observed so far, a barrel length anywhere from about 4"-5" is the way to go. What do you guys think?
I have always had a Model 686 S&W 357 Combat Magnum for over 15 yrs . I love it 👍☺
Two of my favorites,but in the end I'm a 10mm guy. Versatility is plain awesome in that platform. And it can be loaded up or down depending on the need. What I would love to see is a comparison of 10mm ammunition ex: civil liberty 60grn verses,a middleweight and then a heavy 180 or 200 trainer. Clay blocks ballistic gel etc. Maybe you have done that already?
Ditto, 10mm fan myself said basically the same thing. 357 a great round for almost 90 years probably shot my dad's S&W model 28 Highway Patrolman probably 1000 times. Now I like my Colt Delta Gold Cup 10mm big carry weapon though. Had since 90 wasn't many choices for 10mm then, thankfully larger selection now.
The terminal performance of that same 10 mm cartridge from the longer barrell of a big & ugly Hi Point carbine will really impress you.
hard to beat the simplicity of a wheel gun. 357 is my favorite and do not own a 10. Love me a good 45 ACP in 1911 though
.45 is 2 time, World War Champion.
I'm also an admirer of John Moses Browning and his timeless masterpiece, the 1911...in .45ACP, .38 Super Auto, or converted to 9x19 or .22LR. Versatile weapon, the 1911.
10mm is great because you have more rounds in the magazine, as opposed to six in a revolver. That being said, of you can't solve the problem with six rounds of .357 magnum, then you have bigger issues than any handgun is capable of, and you need a rifle.
I got 7 rounds in my 357. What is your next excuse?
I'd love to see the underwood 135 grain 10mm. 1600 fps, and 767 ft lbs. I think this would go radically different. The speed of the 125 gr .357 vs the what was it? 180/185 gr 10mm is pretty profound. Underwood calls their 135 gr their "funky little hand grenade". Seeing that on clay would be a trip.
Shot a groundhog head on with one out of a commander 1911..did not die quickly. Really glad it wasn't a pissed off bear! I'm looking at the 165gr bonded now rated at 1400fps.
@Jerry Wells Corbon makes it in 135 gr.
I own a Taurus .357 Mag and a Taurus .44 Mag, and also own a 10mm Glock 20. But in all honesty, as much as I like the Magnums, 10mm is still my favorite round because of it's combination of ballistic performance and power, it's just one hell of a beast of a round.
Love your clay block tests. My fave - as always, .357
Hey everybody. This! Is about to be a really fun video. Out on the range today with heavy metal....
😆😆😆 have you seen this one before?
@@WHOTEEWHO I'm psychic lol
10mm was a more direct hit. .357 was up high, just a bit, which made it look more powerful. The 357 had a lot of clay left at the base whereas the 10mm had less. I wonder which caliber made the clay block weight less.
Your 357 shot was, I believe, about an inch above the 10mm, what it looked like in slow-mo...
Timely video, I picked up my 10mm yesterday, and identical rounds.
I have a xdm 5.25 10mm and shot extreme hunter Underwood ammo through 6 one inch pieces of planed hardwood. They all made it too the 5th & 6th and when dug the bullets out they still looked brand new. Zero scuffs scratches or any visible damage.
if it's only one shot, then 357 Mag else it's 10 mm all day. You have the ability to mount toys on the 10mm
357 hands down, out of all the guns I own, its the revolver thats lays next to my alarm clock.
With a revolver, you don't have to check if a rd. is chambered, etc.. But if you fire that Magnum inside a closed area, car, in the house, your ears will ring for a week if you lucky. So I keep 38spl. +P's in my Ruger w/speed loader of magnums!
10 mm my favorite 🤩
Gotta love 10mm
I own both 10mm and 357. Both rounds are more than adequate for home defense!!! Weight and Velocity are certainly the key ingredients when it comes to performance. I love shooting underwood ammo in both these calibers (coonan 357 and glock 29). Hot ammo for sure!!!! A++++
Nice video!!!! 👍
I have both .357 S&W 6 inch 7 round and two glock 10mm and I love them both
They both have the "ONE BULLET STOPPING POWER" effect and both are very accurate
Subbed............Regards, POPS
Your killing me dude, I haven’t been able to get any .357 mag for my S&W for 2 plus months and your shooting clay😢😉
I've had that super box for 10 years. Not kidding
True fans wait in line for the opening 😉
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The .357 hit above the center point. That's why the entire bottom was undisturbed and the upper part split wide open.
Carried .357 for years on patrol through the 70's and into the 80's. Never let me down then and still carry one today.
These clay shots are super cool. Even more fun tgan ballistic gel
The .357 hit the clay up higher (between the eyes) than where the 10mm hit (center portion of the "U" shaped mouth).
I'm a 125gr .357 kind of guy. You are right about the shot placement. It did make the top half of the block disappear so I'm not disappointed.