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Next movie you do, needs to be jarhead.
I agree I'd like see Jarhead reviewed as well as Generation Kill.
Hell yeah
Jarhead was one of the films that I saw before and after Boot Camp. Good fucking film.
I recently discovered an old TV series call The Lieutenant.
It was done by Gene Roddenberry before Star Trek and its pretty good. Set in the early 60's. One episode was actually filmed st MCRD-SD complete with the airport in the background, Now I know what the place looked like in the 60s!
Decent film
The movie actually got him promoted, he was actually a Staff Sergeant but his contribution to the Corps was so great because of this movie they made him a Gunny.
My great cousin served with him in Vietnam when he had a ptsd panic attack Gunny actually flew to here to help him he was a really nice person once you were out of boot camp and respectful to everyone my cousin through all the shit he hated about the core still says he miss him
Gunny was the man. I miss him.
That was an honorary promotion by Ronald Reagan, not an official promotion.
@@dallasarnold8615 Marine Corps Commandant Jones in 2002 officially promoted him to Gunny. He is the only Marine to have been promoted post retirement.
Her retired from the Marines in 1971 as an E-7. The film was made in the 80s.
The film was set 1967-8. Boot camp at Parris Island was set in late 1967 and part 2 is set in Hue City when the Marines retook it from the North Vietnamese after the Tet Offensive in February 1968. Under the pressure of the Vietnam War, boot camp was reduced from twelve weeks to eight weeks, so the Drill Instructors were under tremendous pressure.
Yes.
My brother was st Parris Island in summer of 67, this film is mild compared to his stories of basic. He was in northern area in Nam, Chu Lai, Quang Tri and survived the war. Never talked about it.
we (Great Lakes, Illinois, company 425) in 1967, '68 trained side by side with Marines in boot camp. Lee Emory gave a superb and realistic depiction of recruit training at that time , due to the rush to get recruits into uniform as fast as possible. i even recognized the barracks we stayed in. the only difference was the uniform our DI wore.
It was 10 weeks when I went thru in June 67.
@@fredc8720
8-10 weeks is enough to get the recruits to find their asses on the battlefield. Barely.
Then remember McNamara recruited low IQ people to buff the numbers.
Doubt anyone will ever read any of this but here's our real truths for anyone who truly wants to know. First and foremost DI's were relieved and faced disciplinary action if Officers caught them "abusing" Privates so they most always jammed us where they couldn't get caught. Also I think we slept with our rifles once and recited the "Rifleman's Creed" only a couple of times. It was always "Good night Chesty Puller wherever you are" during Phase I and II while they let us stay up to study and work out during Phase III. By then it was always about putting out numbers given they had already cut the "10%'er sick, lame and lazy."
The pattern was simple as it was a two day cycle. One day was close order drill on the grinder for hours while the other was PT at the obstacle course and sand pits for hours. There were basic classes in between and a lot of fattening us up or slimming us down at the Chow Hall depending on your body type. They yelled and took a lot of "liberties" in the ways they "disciplined" us if they thought we were screwing around during training. One night our Junior put stitches in the top of my Boy's head when he down stroked him with an M14 because he didn't like his performance at close combat that day. Nothing was ever said even though it was dead wrong and total BS. If you really made them mad DI's would put you in a wall locker with a lit heat tab and Privates would sometimes break the door open to get away from the gas it gave off. It was also common to be given a thousand "bends and thrusts" which you counted out in front of the duty office. Don't think anyone ever did the whole amount as you'd skip every fifth one or so which came out to about 800 in an hour to an hour and a half.
By the time I drove up at San Diego a lot of DI's had different degrees of PTSD which was obvious by the way they treated us. Our Junior was with 5th Marines and he would tell us how the VC (Viet Cong) would shoot at them and they would have a hard time finding the shooter if at all. Senior came from 1/9 while the Third came from 3/26 and both told a very different tale given they were always target heavy with NVA (North Vietnamese Army Regulars) who came in great strength to play. There were no VC during the end of the war so Senior's and Junior's training paid off big time. Junior's war frustrations were obvious while Senior and Third were cool calm professionals so maybe we paid closer attention because they never laid a hand on anyone. It was so bad with Junior I smelled liquor on his breath as he beat on me in the platoon office at Edson Range which is why we all literally felt safer when Senior and Third had night duty with us.
Secondly unless PI had a different uniform issue and wearing policies than SD the uniforms are off in several ways. Later during Nam SD issued grey sweatshirts because they were cheaper than the yellow with red EGA given out until around '68 and before. Other part is the graduation scene where they're wearing the old flat "piss cutters" when graduation was always round barracks covers regardless of time of year. Being the Corps it was always "proper uniform of the day" and was strictly enforced at both MCRD's. This is why recognizing the time period is so easy because they're wearing "greens" for graduation itself. "Greens" were considered the "winter uniform" which was worn from October through March while "tropicals" (Gomer Pyle suit) was worn during the warmer months the rest of the year.
Tet Offensive kicked off during the end of January 1968 and the movie places Sergeant Joker in Da Nang when that happened. This means he went through twelve weeks of boot, four weeks of ITR (Infantry Training Regiment - SOI) and at least another four weeks at Journalist School plus an additional two to three weeks at Staging Battalion (pre deployment) at Pendleton. Add in another 20 days boot leave for non infantry and a week or so at the RVN (Republic of Vietnam) Reception Center on Okinawa and we're looking at the normal six to seven months before a Marine actually arrived in country at that time.
Given Joker was a sergeant means he had at least nine months in country prior to Tet which rounds out to around fifteen to sixteen months or so which was typical back then. This places FMJ's recruit platoon as a typical "summer surge" in 1966. Boot camp's reduction from twelve weeks to eight with no boot leave until after BITS (Basic Infantry Training School) placed us grunts in country a full month earlier in greater numbers. Thus we arrived at MCRD SD in late June and joined our Units between late December through mid January. Like usual we got split up with many going to 1/4 and 3/9 while I went to 1/9 alone. A bunch went to 1st Marines but I don't remember which battalions. I just ran across them at Separation Center when we were all getting out. No one talked about who didn't make it because it was too painful so I honestly don't know and still don't want to.
Again I know this was a bit long for anyone to read but these are our real truths history has already forgotten and "Full Metal Jacket" proves it. As always "There it is."
Semper Fi
Thank you for your service in the Corps during one of the hardest times to serve in the corps.
As accurate as you may have been with your narrative, I quit reading when I found what I knew to be incorrect. I JOINED and was in boot camp at PI while Ermey was a recruit at SD. My younger brother followed seven years later. By the time he was DRAFTED into the USMC, training at PI had been reduced from 12 weeks to a mere 8 weeks.
I emphasize 'joined' and 'drafted' due to the fact that when I joined, the Corps drafted approximately1000 annually. By the time my brother was drafted, that number was unlimited.
Have A Nice Day...Molon Labe...Semper Fi
@usmc3547 I purposefully didn't mention how anyone got to the depots because we all went through the same process thus it didn't matter. Have a nice life.
@richardrobertson1886 You're most welcome and thank you. Means a lot because we didn't hear this when we came home.
@@pauldean8439
I don't know what your reply is in reference to. But, somewhere in some comment sections, I have mentioned the fact that we were transported from the train station at Yamessee, SC to the Island. So, that is a 'wash'.
But, that no longer is the case. Not only is the practice of arriving in the middle of the night at Yamessee and going to bed for 4 hours in barracks near the train depot designed for the purpose of receiving new recruits been done away with, but they now arrive at the Island in the middle of the night. The zinger is that they do not get to sleep in a bed for 56 hours after arriving.
I would say we could argue until our last breaths. But since almost everyone's experience is different, neither would be 100% accurate. After reading your response I was puzzled and perplexed to the extent I read the entire post. As I said...it is riddled with inaccuracies...according to my brother's experience, as well as mine. Having joined in 1961 I didn't go to Viet Nam, therefore my 4 years were rather uneventful!
My brother was drafted for TWO (2) years ONLY. He was promoted to E-4 while having been in the Corps an unheard of 9 months and 16 days...TOTAL! And...that was in Viet Nam...shooting in the ass your time frame of how long it took to get into combat as well as promotions!
He served but 10 months in VN because they were given the option of serving six months in the bush, a month of leave, and serving six more months in VN. Or serve 10 months straight with no leave. He opted for the 10 months. When his CO asked why he took that option, he answered, "Sir, if I ever leave this place, I won't be coming back"!! He told me he didn't want to have to be looking over his shoulder for the rest of his life!
On my way home, after attending his graduation, it was announced over the radio that POTUS Johnson authorized all draftees who had served a tour of duty in VN, and had less than six months left to serve, would be discharged upon arrival on the US West coast. He served a total time of one year, six months, and five days. And that includes the 45 days they kept him in Okinawa so that he had less than six months to do when he reached LA!
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The movie is extremely accurate. R. Lee Ermey is the SDI(Senior Drill Instructor) was a Marine DI and was a Staff Sergeant in The USMC. He was given a Honorary rank of Gunnery Sergeant due to his service and promotion of the USMC and veteran organizations. The filming takes place before the Tet Offensive so it would be somewhere between 1965-1967 looking at the uniforms and timeline of event's. I find nothing Offensive about his dialogue and mannerisms. Recruits were strucks during this period but it wasn't done out of Malice. As a Combat Veteran if my Son was going through MCRD I'd want him trained the exact same way.
Also, wasn't this time period during the Draft? So you had people in boot camp that had zero desire to be there. I would imagine that would call for a more jarring approach. Correct me if I'm wrong
@@Tusk_Tact The Army is the only branch that continually Drafted during Vietnam. They were the largest branch and had the biggest commitments at the time especially in South Korea and West Germany. The Marine Corps only drafted twice to backfill the ranks not sure of the dates. Other than that the Marine Corps mostly relied on Volunteers.
Tet Offensive was 31Jan68
@@georgesykes394 Not Really, US Marines accepted draftees if they were physically fit, There was an interview with R Lee Ermy saying that he had to train Draftees in the Marines and during that time when he was a DI, one of the draftees committed suicide and it was hard on him but he still kept on training future Marines.
@@shthappens8923I believe I said Twice during the 2nd Indochina War Marines accepted draftees and it was to backfill their ranks. The periods opened I would have to look up. But yes R. Lee Ermey did train draftees as well as volunteers. But the whole Lie all the Marines had was draftees is BS that needs to be put to rest.
I’m enlisting in the marines after this school year is over and I just wanted to thank you for all of the educational videos helping me make my decisions. You’re hilarious and very informative. Thanks a lot AONIXO
Good luck. I enlisted 2008.
Good to have another brother. You can do it. We're in this together
Don't do it.
When’s the ship date and east or west?
@@shaggyhobo671 west and idk the ship date yet i just talked to a recruiter and haven’t signed anything yet.
@@briangulley6027 I'm doing it, and you can't fuckin' stop me.
I went to PI Jun-Aug 67 and DI's had free range over the recruits. I got choked by the senior DI on my 1st day. I've seen them just beat the hell out of recruits when they F#*K up. We didn't sleep with our rifles every nite and we had gun racks in the bay. We also did not have live ammo readily available. Discipline was great and teamwork was developed that lasted through our tour of duty. I and 99% of my plt ended up with orders for 03 and WestPac (Vietnam). 12 of my plt of 80 were KIAs in Vietnam. I'm still in touch with one of the Marines I went to bootcamp with 55yrs later !!! Semper Fi
I graduated PISC Feb 00 and while our DIs couldn't touch us, nor we them (which could result in the DI defending himself) I don't particularly recall the DI cursing at us. I disagree that it has changed the level of discipline in the Corps. We had the same rate of knuckleheads doing stupid stuff off duty as you had in your day, same as it is today. The Corps, fortunately or unfortunately is a microcosm of the societies' best and worst.
My grandfather fought in Korea and said that the boot camp portion of this movie is by far the closest he's ever seen Hollywood get to boot camp he had to walk out of the room a couple times.
I went to boot camp in 82. It is a accurate depiction of what went on. All my DI’s were Vietnam veterans. I was 3rd Bn. I Co. on Parris Island. I got hit a couple times, once while snapping in at the rifle range, the DI kicked my rifle stock into my face because I didn’t have proper stock weld on my cheek in the prone position, and another time out at ICT. On the old airfield I got punched in the chest for running my suck to my fellow recruit in our foxhole. They used to also hit you in the bridge of your nose with their Smokey hat rim when yelling at you. By the way when you stand on your footlocker at night it was called hygiene inspection, you had to turn your hands over, drop your drawers and turn around. It was very humiliating but, they had to check us for medical defects. Everything in boot camp is done for a reason.
I was in Army boot camp in '83 and they could still smack you up side of the head. Funny though, they couldn't call you a piece of s**t, but a piece of human waste was OK. 😄 Little word replacements all over, hilarious.
My cousin got his ass busted by the SDI...the platoon was advised to check their slings before hitting the range...my cousin's sling was loose and he thought "it will hold up, i'll fix it after"....got on the range..ping...snapped....got his guts stomped out. I still to this day remember him telling the story and I laugh but it really wasn't funny. haha!
Fighting hole marine we aint in the army lol
Thank you for your service. 😉🇺🇸
@@billymadason9339
Sorry Jar Head, but you must have been in the 'NEW' girlie Corps! When Ermey and I were in boot camp in 1961, they were 'fox holes'!
Semper Fi
R. Lee Ermey was actually a drill sgt in the Marines. He was initially hired as a consultant for the film but showed up in full uniform and auditioned for the part. He scared the crap out of everyone there.
Drill *instructor*.
@@DonDonP1 this might sound dumb, but are they different, drill sergeant and drill instructor?
A lot of this too was improv. He didn't read any script
@@kaksoispistev5403 The Army calls them "Drill Sergeants" and the Marines call them "Drill Instructors".
Stanley Kubrick was smart bringing him in with any capacity
Gotta love Gunny.. He honesrly made that movie watchable. He will be forever known as a legendary Marine.. R.I.P. and Semper Fi Gunny
“Is that you John Wayne, is this me” the actor was not supposed to say it in John Wayne’s voice, he realized that he had said it with John Wayne’s voice so he added the “is this me” part. Stan Kubrick loved it and left It in.
This movie was responsible for recruiting the most people EVER and probably still is! I feel like my DI’s didn’t ever use any of Gunny’s keywords just to not make the experience the same of what was portrayed on film. I cycled through in 93 I saw DI’s kick and throw recruits. We never chanted the rifle creed.
Nope that reward goes to the first Top Gun
lol how does a anti war movie that shows recruits being abused get people to want to join the military?
@@joaquinferrazzi923 because it has a sense of growth through pain and experience and brotherhood
@@adversekc608 misunderstood tho
The actor Ed Emery was a DI in real life. He was a retired Gunny. Corps was tough back in the day. This movie was made in 1987, I was a PFC stationed at Lejeune then. Me and my marine buddies went to see this movie out in Jacksonville.
R. Lee Ermey was medically retired as a SSgt. and made honorary GySgt which was a post-service promotion.
@@HollywoodMarine0351 Yes.. he was a "wing wiper" (REMF) in Vietnam but was injured on Okinawa. It was an "honorary promotion" given by the Commandant that didn't include pay !!
Marines looked more soft actually less screaming
Kill! Hey brother! I never seen Full Metal Jacket when I enlisted. Only 2 dropped from our platoon by the time we graduated. I saw Full Metal Jacket after I retired. Shit I would do it all over again... I mean we still can shit Army got their own 50yr old Soldier to reboot. When I hit 50 and 100 I'm going to reboot in our beloved Corps. I wonder if the DI will call me Marine Recruit / Recruit Marine lol Confused as shit! "Recruit! stretch your skin to make yourself look young ready move!" SF!
RIP R Lee Ermey We still miss ya!
I was there in 86, it wasn't this bad with the physicality, but I did see 1 fellow recruit get hit. He did deserve it mouthing back to our Senior. The cursing was this bad depending on the Drill Instructor.
I went to boot camp in June 30th 1986 i am a Hollywood marine and yes they sure didn’t hold back any names of screaming
Mine used the whiskey locker as concealment a few times. 1986 as well.
I went through basic training in 1986 too. Combat Engineer at Fort Leonard Wood.
Thank you for your service SGT Patterson, everything is accurate for the time; 1960’s. One very small detail that I have to explain to my non-military friends is when the platoon is matching to”this is m rifle, this is my gun”…. Many recruits entering the military mistakenly call their piece “a gun”. They were being taught to call their piece “a rifle” proper nomenclature. Semper Fi !!!
when I went through Air Force basic training in 1990, there was absolutely no physical contact from the training instructors. However, even though there technically was a rule that they were not allowed to use any vulgarity, it was a new rule, i believe, and they did go out of their way to confirm with us on day 1 that none of us would take it personally or say anything about it. My opinion is this: if you can't handle being sworn at, you shouldn't be in basic training
I agree with you. I also went to Air Force Basic in 1990 as well. I dont remember hearing anything about the no cussing rule. We were cussed out as soon as we hit the dorms and every day after that. Lol
@@reginaldjohnson5375 it definitely started on the first day. Training instructor said "we're not supposed to do this, but hopefully you guys can live with it" and assured that none of us would turn him in. Then it became business as usual for him... 😄
Thank you for your service. But you were in the Air Force in 1990. Nooo comparison at all to what is depicted here.
Talk to any Marine that went through boot camp in the 50's or 60's. The drill instructors could literally beat you into the hospital. And it was considered YOUR fault.
@@matthewhudson5685 that would be exactly what I said. They were not allowed to touch us. I did not try to imply, in any way, that it was anything like the island in the 60s. I just said what they were and weren't allowed to do when I went
@@alanela6761 '83 Boot Camp. Same. They basically asked/hinted that no one is going to write their congressman. The TI's were cool, all show the first few weeks, we had their backs as much as they had ours. I even played against my old TI in a flag football league at Pease. He said 'uh oh!, was I good to you?" as i lined up across him lol. I said, no problem, you were cool. I was a lot bigger than him.
R. Lee Ermy was an actual DI and was on set as a consultant. He actually ended up being so much better Kubrick gave him the part cause he was teally a DI. The entire barracks shark attack was Ermy freestyling off script.
100% correct
Had a Navy company commander JUST like that in 1977 lol.
I went to bootcamp in ‘94 and it was definitely still physical. I remember getting choked out in the field at night when I was talking while standing on line. Great times.
Thank you for your service. 😉👍🇺🇸
1988 MCRD Hollywood here. cussing was abundant, a few recruits got slammed around. We had one "blanket party" for an "individual" that always made us suffer.. We always had to sit on our rack before lights out and drink a full canteen, hold it over your head to show it was empty. One night we filled the aforementioned "individuals" canteen with urine. All eyes were on him. The guy took one sip and spit it out and refused to hold it over his head. The DI tore into him and told him to hold it up!! The individual proceeded to dump a full canteen of piss over his head, into his rack and had to sleep in it all night. JAG used to come in every sunday and give a private 10 second interview in the duty hut to each recruit. " have you been verbally or physically abused?" Sir , no Sir...NEXT!! One or two recruits said yes during the 12 weeks and certain DI's vanished and new ones took over. Years later in the Fleet, I ran into the "problem individual" . He was actually in MSG and in FAST Co. I guess he saw the light and went on to be and outstanding Marine!!
The way his cover twirls off his head with the right side slap always gets me.
He did that on purpose though. Cause Vincent said "if you hit me for real, I am gonna hit you back." Remember, he was the mechanic in Adventures in Babysitting. I forget if he lost the weight for that movie, or gained i for this one.
I enlisted in 1975, That was my experience. hands on all the way when there were no officers around.
He actually was a drill instructor for real, he was hired as the military consultant on the movie. The director was amazed of all the insult he could come up with on the fly and he never even heard an insult being reused.
I think the greatest, most accurate line in all of Lee Ermey's work is, "And pick up your fucking cover"
When I enlisted in 92' full metal jacket was what I expected my experience to be. Overall I'd say my experience was the"lite" version of full metal jacket without the physical violence or racist slurs everything else though was pretty close hahahaha. Thanks again for the amazing memories USMC !!!
We had a kid get a blanket party but it was locks in a sock. He got his mind right thereafter. Our drill instructors would choke us but they said they were checking our collar sizes. We got called every name in the book
@@johnreed9050 locks in a sock! Jesus Christ! I can't imagine how that would not cause internal injury.
@@TomorrowWeLive
Blankets placed on top of him before he got socked. Got his mind right as pain is a great refocusing tool.
So your experience was nothing like this 😂
My 93 year old dad was in the Army during Korea and ass beatings were a thing. Thief? Fall down two flights of stairs, break both legs, nobody saw nothing. My dad saw some do something incredibly stupid and dangerous during while on rifle training, the Instructors told everyone to turn around and the beat the crap out of the offender.
My dad enlisted in the Army in 82-83 and said this was fairly accurate to what he experienced in boot camp.
The one inaccurate part of the Bootcamp scenes is only one DI doing the hell-raising.
In the Bootcamp I remember, there were 4 of them, all at once. Teaming up to do things like one screaming in your ear to take your boots off, another screaming in the other ear to for you to stand at attention, and it only got worse from there as the day progressed lol.
That's so you work well under pressure and can listen to several people at once in stressful situations.
They were sent to Vietnam just before the Tet Offensive, February 1968. So Paris Island was likely 1967.
I went through USMC boot camp in 1979 and this is the closest thing to the boot camp I experienced, Primary difference is there were 4 Drill Instructors not just 1. Boot camp was 16 weeks when I went through.
Those rifles look like the M-14/M-1A Standard.
The DI's would hit you in the early 90's. I'm speaking from experience.
I went in 1991, and I concur. I was punched mid center of my back for standing too close to a junior kill hat, Sgt. O'connell. He was later relieved of duty for thrashing the platoon füčkup (Pvt. Pyle) after lights-out.
Get ready to hear "I'm ready for boot camp, I watched full metal jacket" like every day as a recruiter!! My recruiter was like "please stop" haha!!
If you haven't seen it, I highly, highly recommend watching the HBO miniseries Generation Kill
One of the most surreal movie watching experiences of my life was when I was a contractor embedded with the Marines at Al Asad Airbase, Iraq back in 2006. I swear, those guys were reciting this movie word for word as we watched it.
The movie takes place in the late '60s, it's centered around the time of The Tet Offensive.
Nah I went through MCRD San Diego in 2019... Platoon 3261... but no they will TOTALLY swear at you.
#1 Marine movie of all time.🦃🌎⚓🇺🇸🖖😎
The Drill instructor in this movie is a real marine retired marine officer !!!
RIP R Lee Ermy.
This is back when the marines where marines (and I'm a veteran)
Went 2 boot camp in the summer of ‘81; MCRD San Diego, so when I saw this in the theater shortly after getting out, the thing that stood out 4 me was how all the recruits used the term “I”.... We had 2 refer 2 ourselves as “the private”. If we said, “I” we would end up in “The Pit” thrashing in the sand......
When I was at MCRD SD in '69, it was always "the private", "the drill instructor", never I, you, or me.
Our Pvt Pyle snapped a couple days before graduation(1986). He chest butted a DI and knocked him back a few steps. All our DIs had him on the ground almost immediately.
He was out the door and gone in a flash. Never saw him again.
Probably ended up with a neon vest on and no shoelaces lol. We had one when I was in basic in 2002 that went nuts and jumped out of the barracks window and broke his arm and back. Some things never change.
"And pick up your fucking cover" after he knocked it off his head, gets me every time. I believe this is the most editorial latitude any actor was ever given by Stanley Kubrick, but the man had actually done the job, so Kubrick was just deferring to the expert.
Using the bars of saop (or.other things) wrapped in towels used to be called a "blanket party"
I met GySgt Ermmy at Miramar (San Diego, Ca) in 2006-2007 until I transferred to 29 Stumps in 2008...dude was awesome...we smoked cigarettes with him during the UFC fight at hanger 2 in 2006.
I was in bootcamp when things were starting to change. They weren’t allowed to hit recruits anymore, but they were actually starting to crack down on it around when I went in. There was still a lot of cursing and racial slurs used by DI’s. I actually watched Full Metal Jacket for the first time in bootcamp during admin week. We were one of the early Guinea pigs for the Crucible before it officially became part of bootcamp. I never got caught taking chow from the chow hall. Some of my Drill Instructors used to call me “Bruce”, because they all knew I was getting away with stuff but I was just to quick for them to catch. Well that and because I’m Asian and they were all racist back then. lol
My dad was in basic when this movie came out and he told me that some things that the DI in the movie said were said to him.🤣
I went through basic training in 83. The DI was a Vietnam veteran. Hardcore bad ass , part stand up comedian. Brings back memories of classic insults.
Fuuuck that beat down scene was brutal, that acting was too realistic
Pretty accurate,from when I went through bootcamp on the Island
1981, Parris Island....They could hit you...and they did! My DI bruised my sternum with his knuckle and then would push his finger into the bone bruise while we were on the parade deck. It looked to anyone passing by as if he were pointing at me, but he was striking that bruise with the tip of his finger. The pain would nearly buckle my knees. Oh, and boot camp was a breeze compared to a Fleet infantry unit. Resistance is futile, you will be assimilated! :)
To answer one of your questions, The timeline of this movie was during late 60s because we see Joker going thru the Tet offensive which took place in 1968 followed by the battle of Hue
Went to boot camp in 1983, got smacked in the face for smiling when the DI said something funny, didn’t never smile again, one recruit had his fingers spread out behind his back during parade rest, the DI walked up behind him and grabbed his hand, all I heard was fingers cracking, OOH-RAH!
I like the way his cover spun off head. As a Hospital Corpsman stationed at MCRD San Diego I saw many instances. When a recruit looked like he tuned up. The Senior DI (gunny) would say that the recruit fell down. So my answer would be, aye gunny, I saw the recruit fell down. This was during the 80s.
In the Navy it was a bar soap in a sock and you smacked the Private Pyle. It's called Ricky recruiting.
I was a Corpsman during the Early 70's. Saw FMJ with about 100 Marines and Former Marines in the theater. Where they were on the Rifle Range and Gunny was giving his lecture and said "The deadliest thing on earth is a Marine and his Rifle". I popped off with, "Nope. It's a 'Po city HO with a dose". Brought down the house. Made a lot of friends that night. Wife couldn't believe I said that. Didn't buy one drink that night!
For those of you who don't know, Olongapo Phillipines is a town/city just outside the gates of the old Subic Bay Naval base. ie: 'Po City. A cesspool of Sin, Cheap sex, and enough booze to float every US NAVY Ship built since 1797.
I read somewhere that at the scene at 7:55 when he was hitting private Pyle in ranks. In that scene the private Pyle actor kept laughing during these scenes it was authentic smiles and smerks. So R Lee Ermy the DI actor had to "compromise" to keep the scene serious. Therefore the slaps were NOT scripted. He pulled out those slaps in real time to keep him from smiling and stay in character.
I know, 😆 I can’t help but laugh at the intelligent and absurdity of boot camp. Keep up what your doing. We all have a chuckle deep down, in those who served in the Marines. Cheers!
Remember it well. MCRD San Diageo 1968. The actions of those DIs kept me alive in 69. The harder they are on you in boot camp, the better your chances are of surviving in combat.
Yes. Kubrick had Sgt. Lee Ermey on the film, as a technical advisor, but decided to let him read, and rehearse for the part of Drill Instructor Hartman. He did it largely from experience, and unscripted.
It's late 1960s ,the Vietnam War era of the Marine Corps, Full Metal Jacket is my favorite Marine films of all time, Great film based on a book called the short timers in 1979
That's true. Did you read the second book - Phantom Blooper?
I laughed everyday during "1st Phase"...🤣...my bearing didn't kick in until "2nd Phase"...😠...."3rd Phase....😤....Fleet"...😍😬😑😶🤨🤐🥵🥶🥴😵😵💫💀
The movie Full Metal Jacket was released at the movies in 1987.
Sgt.Tommy Lynch back in the day.
He wasn't even there original one casted for the drill sergeant role he was put into it he was simply an adviser to the actor that was doing the roll the actor that originally had to roll became the helicopter Gunner in the scene where he's mowing down civilians. That's the original drill sergeant
My god I remember we had one, he did not know the difference between right and left... he always started wrong, so when we marched he was disrupting us, you saw the entire troop sway one way, and he in the middle sway the other way !!! had to place him at the back ... in the end.
I went to bootcamp 10 years ago and they still did things like that. "What happens in the squadbay stays in the squadbay".
My Uncle was a Navy Medic 1967. After Navy medical training he was sent to Camp Pendleton to do emergency training. While there he saw many Marines with broken arms and hands. He actually approached a DI and asked about it. The DI’s response, “ I am hard on them, they are going somewhere with no mercy and I need to prepare to try and come home” My uncle soon went “In County” attached to a “seek and destroy” unit. He did 2 tours and luckily made it home.
MCRD San Diego 1994. It wasn't easy, no lie one of my DIs pushed his right finger into my chest. Told me I had to get my shit together as his finger was pushing into my chest.
Blanket parties were a common factor for every platoon fuck up! Especially in the grunts...We also hated every boot coming into our unit. Also guys that got hated by pinning on their rank by punching their cheverons into their collarbone....All is no longer allowed!
React to "Come And See" it's regarded the greatest war movie ever made by many and inspired Spielberg to make Saving Private Ryan and Schindler's List, it's also considered downright *brutal*.
That's so true. Thank you for this comment.
It's one of the best war movies ever made, but doesn't even have much actual war in it.
A lot of war crimes tho...
Boot, it was done for a reason. I was in San Diego in the Fall 1983. They did all that to desensitize you from anything vulgar you would encounter during your FMF time. I entered boot camp as a timid kid. I left hard as nails and could not be intimidated ever again. Air Force dad was shocked trying his stuff that didn't even make me blink hard.
I was in Navy boot camp in 88 and most of what you see in this movie was dead on accurate. The funny thing is that when I was leaving I witness the fist recruits receiving water bottles and wearing sneaker during drill training. That was also when the military started the new touchy feely training. It was the start of the end.
Wasn't there a point though when they started going big on hydrating though?
You are right, there’s a private Pyle in every recruit training. I was in the CG basic training in 1981 and I vividly remember the overweight guy getting picked on.
Blanket party was usually only the guide and squad leaders
This was required watching in my recruiting office when I shipped in '05.
My pops went through MCRD San Diego in 1943-44. (Purple Heart, Iwo Jima). He told me a recruit could challenge the DI in the boxing ring if he felt he was being treated unfairly. He's gone now, I wish I had asked him more questions while he was here. I graduated with Platoon 3050 on 8-12-83 in San Diego. I was 17 and used to getting yelled at by grown ups, lol. I went through boot without too much trouble although I screwed up first phase drill(inspection arms) and caught hell for it.
1. There is always more than one DI in boot camp (at least in the Navy) where partially recruits can't be abused. Verbal abuse is one thing but physical was a NO GO.
2. Vincent D'Onofrio played the Bug in MIB.
3. Hardman was out of control. Other's outside his recruits would have noticed and he would have been held accountable.
4. "I don't know" was used in my Navy recruit company in 1981.
5. "I don't know but I've been told..." was what we sang in boot camp.
6. "Blanket parties" are a real deal. We didn't have one because we didn't have a Gomer Pyle.
Went to Navy boot camp in 1973. They did at times hit us but not like what was happening over at the Marine Corp base. Our bases were side by side so we could clearly see the mayhem going on over there.
In the San Diego summer of '69, while doing three-mile runs in the heat, I could see you sailors lollygagging about your barracks. :)
@@CharlesWT-TX Yep, Navy boot camp was nothing compared to the Marines. My father, a marine in WW2 explained that fact to me in detail. Hence, I joined the Seabees and worked in construction battalions all over the world. But the Navy boot camp was a pushover.
"Are you trying to squeeze an inch on me" lmfao🤣🤣🤣
My Senior broke ranks when we were just outside the chow hall getting ready to set our rifles down because the recruit next to me had a sloppy port arms (didn’t lock his elbow). Senior shook him as hard as he could and his muzzle hit me in the temple. He just kept screaming at him and finished by saying, and if I was him, I’d kick your ass. That recruit later shot a “blazing 190” on the range.🤣
I went through recruit training in 90, and the boot camp scenes were pretty accurate. When I went in the DI's weren't supposed to put hands on you, but once we were in the squad bay and the doors were closed whatever happened, happened. (and you better keep keep your pie holes shut about it) I'm sure it wasn't all over the depot, but for sure 3rd battalion and specifically Kilo. At least it didn't get out of hand and nobody was damaged badly. Sure toughened a person up though
16:36 The result of bullying and betrayal too. It was a sharp reminder of what happens when your classmates notice mental issues and don’t say anything, then the mental one goes out and shoots up a school. If you see warning signs, tell someone who can do something.
When you pointed out, every flight/platoon/etc had a screw-up, I laughed out loud, because you were 101% correct.😆👍
Hey bud. Algorithm brought me to you. Marines are the greatest. My grandfather was 1st marine, 1st Bat in WW2 Pacific. Gold star purple heart. Much love to u, good sir.
I joined the Corps in 83. So accurate. 25 yrs. Semper Fi devil dogs
Went thru PI in 73 the DI scenes were extremely accurate!!!!!!
My grandfather was a Canadian WWII merchant marine and was told they weren't soldiers. I don't know about that but I will tell you that at over 70 years old my grandfather lifted a 350lb (probably a bit more) lb man off the floor with one hand and beat him with the other. Never seen anything like it, almost superhuman. He was a fantastic and terrifying human being. For context he had already had 20 heart attacks at that point. When people say they were just built different they aren't kidding.
Wow!
1. Late 1960’s. Get Tet Offensive was 1968.
2. Health and comfort inspiration.
3. I am PISC ‘88.
All of you veterans here, thank you all for your service. 😉👍🇺🇸
Can we have a moment of silence for R. Lee Ermy? The Gunny shall be remembered. I used to love watching Mail Call.
1966, I can attest to the films accuracy. The BS part was Pyle getting ammo to kill the gunny. The rest of it was 100% on track.
He snuck food into the squad bay so I could see sneaking in ammo though I don't know how he'd get away with it. The suggests him kill his SDI was premeditated? Has a recruit ever killed at DI on purpose? This could be just Hollywood but it makes the movie work so I got no complaints.
17:10 completely agree this is exactly why we don't get cleared for live ammunition until range day/days or otherwise. It was the same way when i went through Army BCT and im sure every branch of service has that procedure.
Honest question. Do they do a better job not at vetting their mental state to determine if they're high risk or not through training?
Side note. Gunny Hartman only changed his rank. All those ribbons are actually his. He wouldn't steal honor no matter the pay.
Love how Gunny held that donut like he's holding a dead rat by the tail. 😂
“I Enjoyed it” at the end had me dying !!!!!😂😂😂
Fuckin A, good 👍times. I am old school, I retired in 98,Semper Fuckin Fi ! Y'all are a new Corps, still the best! Carry-on Marine!
I always wanted to be a Marine when I was little, but I saw Black Hawk Down and I want to be a Ranger. I still have mad respect for the Marine Corps.
It's awesome to have marines react to Full Metal Jacket. Thank you for serving our country. 🪖🇺🇲🦅
Yup! Every platoon will have a Recruit similar in IQ to Leonard Lawrence. They do exist.