How to Setup a Workshop - Design, Tool Layout and Machine Locations - New Woodworking and Metal Shop
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- Опубліковано 5 лип 2024
- Hey woodworkers, makers and metal smiths! I want to show you some ideas for tool layout and machine locations in my new workshop that I just finished. I spent the past year building this new shop and I'm hoping to give you some good ideas for your own workspace. I primarily am focused on woodworking, but I also have a small area dedicated to metal machines, such as my knee mill, metal lathe, and welding machines. My Tormach CNC machine also resides back there, and it'll still get some heavy wood cutting done on it until I get a dedicated wood CNC router.
2023 update: Dust collector closet: • Don't buy a cyclone du...
I also added a 4'x8' Avid CNC!
In additional to machine location I also discuss some of the tough design designs I had to research and figure out. Such as the overall shop size, ceiling height, lighting, electrical outlet locations, and wiring considerations. How many outlets per circuit? How far apart are the outlets for a shop? How high to put the outlets?
If you want to see anything in more detail, let me know!
Way more info in my blog articles:
www.corbinstreehouse.com/blog...
Thanks!
Corbin Dunn / Corbin's Workshop
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www.corbinsworkshop.com // CNC files, products I make, portfolio
Chapter markers:
0:00 Intro
0:40 Overall Layout & Size
2:11 Table saw Location
3:25 Planer Location
3:41 Dust Collection
6:16 Belt/disc sander
6:41 Jointer
7:08 Drill press
7:24 Wood Storage
8:04 Miter saw
8:37 Screws, Nuts & Bolts
8:54 Workbench
10:10 Electrical (Outlets)
12:05 Metal shop intro
12:25 Air comp / slip roll / grinder
13:10 Welders & Misc
14:12 Knee Mill
14:40 Tormach CNC
15:11 Tooling Storage
15:36 Metal lathe
16:25 Oxy Acetylene Welder
16:33 Horz Metal Band Saw
16:46 Lighting
17:11 Garage (Cars)
17:37 Heating
18:04 Outro
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Update: I build a closet for the dust collector! We'll see how well that works out. Video: ua-cam.com/video/gppFjH-8ovQ/v-deo.html
Thank you for this excellent video!
No problem!
Great video. Thanks for creating it. Making my first large workshop and looking for good ideas. This was very helpful.
Thanks, i'm glad it could help! I should do an updated video, as I've now moved a few things around and purchased a few more machines that I had to accommodate. I also did build a closet for my dust collector (there's a video on it).
4K+ views. That's probably more people than ever saw us talk in person at WWDC. ;-)
Very interesting
Thanks
Bob
England
Thanks Bob!
Great space
You might want to revisit your dust collection system
Replace the 90's with long sweep or radius to minimize restriction.
Replace 'T' fittings with street 90's again to minimize restriction.
That will result in a more efficient system and could prevent clogs.
To minimize airborne dust the bags produce, I'd add a cyclone to the system
OR
build a room with filter walls to contain airborne dust. The added benefit could be noise reduction.
AND
Add an air cleaner to reduce airborne dust, in your case you might need two small ones.
Radiant heating is the ONLY way to heat a woodworking shop.
You didn't mention the fuel.
Cheers,
Thanks! Yeah, these are all great ideas. I am planning on building a small room for the dust collector for dust and noise. I've never been a big fan of cyclone systems - they are a great idea and design, but don't seem to give a lot of extra bang for the space and cost. I may change my mind on that some day!
RE: Radiant - I've got propane. I like radiant, but I think I would have done an air-to-water heat pump instead; electricity is way cheaper than propane out here...and eventually I'll get a nice solar setup that would make heating costs even cheaper. But for now...it is propane.
So far, the only area that I ever tend to get clogs is the entrance into the dust collector; it has an X shape over the entrance hole, and it sometimes gets clogged when I produce a lot of planer shavings.
Nice! Amazing how much work it is to fully set up a shop. Mine never got fully setup despite 13 years there - just too busy making stuff. In retrospect that was silly. Should have just spent another month or even two setting up the rest of it so I wasn’t tripping over stuff on the floor for the next 12 years! Silly humans :)
I have been viewing a lot of woodshop layouts , and i find yours better to my liking! Not a lot of eye candy some feel they need, I guess to each their own!
Thanks Gary! I totally see the appeal of having nice wood walls, cabinets, workbenches, etc, but all that stuff gets beat up in a well used shop. So I went with simple stuff.
I did change the layout a bit: I moved my jointer right by the planer - it saved some space, and they are usually used in tandem.
Cool shop
It looks huge
Look forwarding to watching woodworking vids from you
Thanks! I've got so many things I want to build...and not enough time ;)
I really like your shop size to the amount of macheen's you have !
You need a set of stairs for your second level.
Thanks! YES -- I really need some stairs. It's on my everlasting todo list.
some great info, thanks
Thought this was a woodworking channel but then found out it's all cnc
Haha! It's also a unicycling channel. And electric cars. CNC's are just another woodworking tool.
Nice way to start is with unlimited space.
For sure! There are always limits...for me it was what I could afford to build, and how much physical land I had for it.
Great tour! Super jealous about the amount of space!
Thanks Kevin! I hope you are doing well and making lots of fun stuff too ;)
Great tour, thank you.
Thanks Tim! You’ll have to come visit and see it in person sometime soon. You are always welcome to stay with us.
Right on dude. You look well set-up. Congrats on finishing the project.
Also: That's a monster-sized tig machine!
Thanks Josh! It seemed to take forever and have quite a few month long delays. I’m happy it is usable!
amazing, this is super inspiring!
Thanks Spencer! Come visit! Lots of great riding. We might have a muni weekend in Truckee this fall. Might be a good excuse to come over
A shop that many of us can only dream about, well done on the build and set up. How much of the shop is dedicated to your actual wood working. I am about to start my shop build but the biggest I can go is 23' x 8 as planning reg (in UK) restrick us and only alloud us to use 60% of our outside space and limit the hight to a max of 9'8". Looking forward to seeing your future builds.
Yeah, go as big as you can! I wish I had more space...but I was restricted by the location and costs; it was already super expensive. In my county, we have limits to how much we can cover our land with impervious materials (buildings, driveways, etc), and how many livable structures (2 per parcel, one limited to 1200sf).
The "woodshop" area is roughly 30x32 or so..roughly 1000 sf. The back metal shop area is about 200 sf. Overall it is 1200 sf, which is my secondary livable structure size -- somewhat by coincidence and intentional, in case it was ever converted to a livable structure.
Can you tell us a little more about the aluminum tubing you used to pipe compressed air through your shop? How easy was it to work with? How flexible is it in terms of being able to splice / reconfigure?
Yeah! Here's what I got... 3/4", but I think I really only needed 1/2". It's pretty easy to deal with...the fittings are expensive if you need additional stuff; that's the only drawback. Otherwise, it is safer and better than a lot of other options (ie: black pipe or copper - galvanized shouldn't be used, nor regular plastic tubing).
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Why is it safer than black pipe?
Nice shop! Did you consider building a sub floor in the wood shop for dust collection/outlets? The cool part is then you have a wooden floor, easier on your feet and if you drop tools etc? I am starting a shop build and looking for ideas, thanks for the video!
Thanks! I did think about a subfloor, and I've seen some people who have done it. It reduces the vertical space by quite a bit, and the wood makes it harder to move around heavy machines. My one friend who did it thought it wasn't worthwhile.
I'm surprised about how often I tend to reposition stuff, and it is pretty easy to do when sliding them on concrete. I haven't dropped any "important/delicate" tools and had them break, so I'm not too worried about having a softer floor for that reason. Have you spent considerable time standing on hardwood floors? Consider if the softness of hardwood would be much better than just adding mats on concrete for your feet. Standing for long hours on my kitchen hardwood floors is pretty tough...and we have soft mats to alleviate that.
I also know some people have put dust collection pipes embedded in the concrete. I already have re-positioned tools a few times, and it would have been more limiting to have the pipes in concrete. I like the flexibility of moving them around when needed.
Still, huge disadvantage of what I did: I have one pipe on the ground, which is sometimes annoying!
@@CorbinDunn thanks for the info, lots to think about for sure!
And here I was about to call you up and say "hey Corby how should I set up my shop?"
Did you use any software to help lay things out, or just pencil and paper?
Yeah! It's less than a week later and I already moved some of the machines around. Before I made the building I did some rough spacing concepts with SketchUp. It is hard to get a feel for things in digital land; some things I thought would work didn't, and other things I thought were too close together were okay.
Your work shop look amazing very nice job I am currently having pole barn build in few weeks this will be my third and last shop hopefully, question about not opting for dust collecting system in ground ive had it in ground before and plan on doing again jzst your thoughts would u put it in ground in hindsight?or not thanks
So, I like to move stuff around. I've already moved a few machines since I made this video, and it's probably already time to do an updated video on my setup, and I've had to re-do the dust lines a bit. I feel like it is more flexible to have the dust tubing in the air than embedded in concrete. If you have *tons* of space, then just give a bunch of space around each machine and drop it in the ground. One worry I had was clogging and not being able to get to a particular clog...but in general, those only happen at T's or 90's, which can be limited underground. I also built my garage with the thought that it could be converted into an ADU at some point, in case some future owner would rather have an ADU instead of a workshop.
I am curious about the cabinet for the dust collection since those dust collectors count on the bags (the filters) to send filtered air back into the space. I have a single bag unit and the noise is definitely less than ideal, so I’ll be curious to learn more about what you intend there.
Yes! My idea is to have some filters on the cabinet; particularly because my bags are terrible filters. I'll reply here once I get it built and done. It might be one of the next shop things I do, after some more shelving.
@@CorbinDunn Yah, I upgraded my bag to a 1 micron one because the stock one was 5 microns and that's just enough filtration to fool your lungs into thinking it's fine while still letting through all the most damaging small particles 😕
Seems like it will take a lot of filter area to equal (and avoid restricting) the amount of airflow possible through two bags which have a lot of surface area. I'll be interested to see what you come up with.
Update: A dust collector closet! ua-cam.com/video/gppFjH-8ovQ/v-deo.html
Great work on the building and shop! I'm designing a building pretty soon as well and it's helpful to see how both aspects of wood and metal can coexist in a structure!
Two related questions:
1) Is there anything that you're super pleased with re: forethought and planning? (I.e. did anything turn out better than you planned?)
2) If starting over, is there anything you would have done differently given a different budget or footprint?
Yeah! I’m not sure i would do radiant heating - I’d look more heavily into heat pumps (for both heating and ac, but I am more in need of heat in the winter than cooling in the summer). Bigger is always better. I’m not sure the open vaulted ceiling was worth the cost; I did this to have storage and more space above my two rooms (garage and metal area). A traditional flat truss ceiling would have been easier, and probably cheaper. But instead of 10’ ceiling, it would have been nice to have a truss system with a 12’ ceiling. 10’ would be okay too, but I heard 12’ is nicer. The 3’ wide double doors give me almost 6’ wide to get stuff in, but my bobcat can’t quite fit; I’d like bigger doors… maybe a garage door (but that has issues in California to pass title 24 heating requirements).
Overall, I’m pleased with the table saw location; I can rip large sheets and long pieces with ease.
I also moved my jointer to be adjacent to my planer - they go hand in hand and it saves some space.
@@CorbinDunn Thank you for the thorough & detailed response!
Those look like 15A receptacles. If you're running a 20A circuit with 12 gauge wire, wouldn't you want a 20A receptacle (the ones with a sideways "T")?
You are right, they are 15A receptacles! I ran a 20A circuit with 12 gauge wire so I can have more outlets on one circuit. This way, multiple things can pull 20 amps from the circuit and not flip the breaker. Previously, I would have that issue running a space heater and heat gun at the same time. I could have some 20A receptacles, but I don't have any tools that need it. Any large tool that requires a 20A plug should probably be isolated and have its own circuit, and I've found that a lot of large 110v machines can be re-wired for 220v, which is a bit more efficient. All my large 220 volt machines are on dedicated circuits; I have a sub-panel dedicated for my 220v machines (mainly due to saving wire). One could share some outlets with big machines, but having a buddy turn on one when you are using another would likely flip a breaker.