Drum Teacher Reacts: 'John Bonham - Led Zeppelin - Fool In The Rain - Isolated Drum Track'
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It’s a photo of Bonham playing with Paul McCartney “
Please do some research 🧐 before posting a video. It makes you look 👀 too silly Shiela “
Hi Andrew,Please check out Peter Dunton from the band T2. Check out the track called In circles from the album It'll all work out in boomland from 1970.Best drummer you have never heard of. Cheers Tim
recorded 78, Neil Peart, Bill Ward are prob the top 3 rock drummers for that era
Piano? “C’mon Man” you’re a Drum teacher? How can a drum teacher not know this song, never heard this song? You’re lying, 😀 I’ve heard this song a gazillion times on the radio, and the drumming on this song is constantly talked about, how it was achieved etc.... I find it hard to believe someone of your age and being a “Drum teacher” never hearing this tune. I fact checked your claim and this is a lie. 😆😆
"I'm a little bit ignorant with Led Zeppelin". Ouch, you poor poor man.
HAHAHA
Seriously...He looks pretty old to have never heard fool in the rain. Obviously, never attended any parties in his youth! Zeppelin was always playing!
Cann Abinoid He only isolated the drums and loved it. How can a drummer not go completely nuts over Zeppelin. No one can listen to Zeppelin and say, Nah!
@@ledzepher2848 I've heard it before!
Never really went down the whole Bonham rabbit hole though.
But there are plent of songs of theirs I've never heard at all.
@@ledzepher2848 Because he is a groove master!
Bill Ward is a drummer that didn't get the credit he deserved and was on point. Please do a reaction to War Pigs live in Paris 1970. He killed it.
Bill ward is possibly the most underrated drummer of all time. He could have taught Bonham a thing or two about weird timing changes, and humility.
He is criminaly underrated. His playing on War Pigs as meantioned is great! Also Hand Of Doom, fucking amazing. But man, he had so many others as well, Warning, Lord Of This World, Behind The Wall Of Sleep had that amazing groovy drum break, The Wizard, Fairies Wear Boots, Iron Man and you can't dissmiss the classic that is Paranoid, it's so simple, but everything in that song is perfectly placed, and it really is a driving force just plowing through everything, love it!
@@hallamalla98 Fairies Wear Boots is one of the heaviest riffs ever!
That is an incredible performance in which Bill Ward completely inialated the drums. I've yet to see a drummer from generations later who sat in with Ozzy or Sabbath (without Ward) that could lay down a heavy yet jazz/swing inspired groove with fills as Bill Ward. He was as much an intriguel part of Black Sabbath as Bonham to Zep. Bill Ward and Bonham were also friends along with other members of each group, they mostly originated from around the same area - a tough industrial hardworking class, and influenced each other through underground live stage performances in the early days.
I agree and I love that song!!!!
0:42 - It's the Purdie shuffle, only played at about 10 times the volume that Bernard Purdie ever envisioned for it. It's one of the 1st drum riffs that I really worked on for months until it felt right. RIP Bonzo! I had tickets to see Led Zeppelin in October of 1980. The USA dates were right after Knebworth and Bonzo drank himself to death 2 weeks before my concert date. I was 14 and cried like a baby.
Tricky groove to get feeling right for sure.
Had you seen Led Zep before that or would that have been the first time?
Breakes my 💔 man 😢
This is cool. Chad Smith and Gregg Bissonette give a master class to Nandi Bushell. They cover that shuffle. It is about 32 minutes.
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Bonham and page perfectly in sync.....never heard a drummer and guitarist so perfectly matched and complimentary to each other
Yeah you're right JPJ was so integral to The sound of LZ that he wasnt really part of rhythm section ,Jimmy and John were the Powertrain
This guy simply cannot call himself a drum enthusiast without knowing this tune.
Internet enthusiast. You can't have both.
AGREED!!!!! Especially sounding British or Australian you think he'd even know John Bonham more than most😮
No accounting for age. He said he wasn't a zeppelin fan. So no surprise. Btw there will never be another Bonham.
@@JoeBilello1969he literally said he was from New Zealand in the first sentence my dude holy shit lmao
To be honest i only became aware of this tune because Jeff porcaro listed it as one of the elements in his shuffle on Rosanna in his video!
It's John's calmness when playing his stuff, that blows me away.
Yes. So much headroom in his playing
Keith Moon was the lightning, Bonham was the thunder
Ginger was the gust, Neil was the light.
And Buddy Rich was the universe....ALL great drummers.
Lars was the metronome 😎
Bill Bruford was...busy...very busy.
@@Green28142814 ...very precise, and very underrated.
John Bonham is the best rock drummer to ever exist. Such style, with finesse, and hit the drums perfectly each time (not too heavy in my opinion)....and the way he tuned/played his kit lent to his style. When you hear something Bonham recorded you know it’s him. For example, the Paul McCartney jam with Bonham (I believe it’s called the “Speed of Sound”. As soon as he starts on the hi hit you know it’s him. That is the sign of a drummer who left his mark on the musical world.
I am not a drum guy but I totally agree with your comment I felt I had to reply instead of a thumbs up thanks for your posting
I'd say best drummer period
there's Rockestra (with john paul jones) and i think your referring to Beware My Love
The best way to learn how to play the drums and develop timing is sit at your kit with headphones playing along with Zeppelin. 🥁🥁🤘🙂🥁🥁
Great tip!
Best example of this is Yoyoka, who claims she can't read sheet music but instead using her reliance on listening to the notes is what helped her nail most of the drum covers for Zep!
@@IAmInfinitus208 The only way for learning very hard to play drums like a Shuffle and Swing orJazz is listen a lot to it. But only wen you can drum pretty well. As a starter you never learn this to play.
Yoyoka Soma would agree.
This is exactly how i went from playing 20 mins a day to 2 hours a day back in highschool 👌🏼
I'm a huge Led Zeppelin fan, and this song is one of my favorites. I think of it as a theme song for my life, LOL.
It's so groovy!
Fool in the Rain was from their August 1979 album, In Through The Out Door. Not early 70’s.
This guys haphazard approach to.this review is shocking
I forgot to mention in the moment. I think I heard him playing on his leg to get the timing of the samba section...
Very revealing recording. Jeez this guy was a monster!
One of his contemporaries of the day- Don Brewer ua-cam.com/video/NxcOxvEsE_Y/v-deo.html
You can bet your ASS he was a "monster" dude.
This whole album is full of surprising musical creativity. It is *the* John Paul Jones album. They were on the verge of something really new and fresh for themselves at the time.
Agreed, Carouselambra in particular showed the depth of the band at the time, pity it did not continue
I definitely didn't want this video to end.
RIP John Bonham...
He’s got an audio mic to capture the “fackin hell” intro...
HAHA! YESSSSSS
@@AndrewRooneyDrums I'm guessing if that was a rehearsal picture it was for singing harmony. I believe he sang harmony on a lot of the Zeppelin stuff.
As a rockdrummer for 43 years (yes really) it took me a whole year every day practicing a (Purdie) shuffle (It's the base to learn) and "the "Bonham Shuffle (Fool in the Rain) till I could it play fairly good. But it's sounds still very different as this track, John Bonham was an exceptional good drummer. He "drags" the basedrum and snare in such a ridiculous difficult way I NEVER will be able to achieve that, the Hi-hat stay's 100% accurate in the rhythm.
His timing and ability to be so precise is insane, he’s the best to ever do it in my opinion
@@GreenToast01 For me sad enough yes. It felt so uncomfortable and unnatural for me. I learned every single part separately and slowly combined it. I never will able to put that feeling in the Purdie Shuffle like Bernard Purdie can.
@@GreenToast01 I'm happy for you to hear that mate. 👍 Polyriddim is indeed very difficult for me to play. I am able to play and use a few, but it was hard to learn 🙏
@@GreenToast01 To get this to sound right, you also need to use the Moeller technique on the hi-hat.
Oh and not to mention he was hammered during this recording. Hence the "facckeenn helll" and the "twoooaaa!" At the beginning. But still played like a machine. Dude was a monster on drums.
Bonzo's influences were Motown, R & B, and some jazz. Yes, they used used keys in their music. Bassist John Paul Jones also played mandolin, upright bass, and keys on some of their songs. Bonham was a phenomenal talent.
Thanks for the info!
I thought it was Jim Beam, Jack Daniels and Johnny Walker.
They all were. 😁
It's his version of the Purdie shuffle. JPJ told a story in a late '90s interview about how both Home At Last and Fool In The Rain were both in the jukebox at Bonham's fave local pub. Whenever HAL would come on the jukebox, Bonham would play FITR afterwards just to point out with pride how much of the drum part he stole from HAL.
Oh man.....he cut it off before some of the best tom and snare runs!!
You are so right. What a shame that he didn't hold out just a little longer.
Damn I was waiting for the turnaround after the "samba" section. that turnaround is the BEST part and he shut it off!
You hear his high hats and his left foot keeping steady beat leaving more freedom on the bass for the right.
Brilliant drumming.
No-one else grooves like Bonham.
That's why he's the greatest rock drummer ever. I sat right above and behind him in Market Square Arena, Indianapolis, 1977. Watched a 20 minute "Moby Dick".
Bonzo never lost the beat, the best.
SO good!
Yes this is the same song, one of my favorite Zeppelin tunes. You should definitely listen to the whole song to understand how Bonham’s drum section fits into it. The man is awesome.
Will check it out!
With the drums isolated, you can hear how much of a beast Bonham was... the ghost notes could fill up a stadium.
Contemporaries; Neil Peart (Rush), Bill Ward (Black Sabbath), Ian Pace (Deep Purple), Mitch Mitchell (Jimmy Hendrix), Carl Palmer (Emerson Lake & Palmer), Nick Mason (Pink Floyd). Actually, you could compare Bonham with any drummer, you might find faster, you might find technically better, you might find numerous drummers with better of "some" of Bonham's skills, but what I always felt was this very different pace for the music. It had to follow Bonham. He dominated so much. And as for that kind of precision at that kind of power...good luck!! I saw Zepplin in 1974, 4th row right in front of Page. To this day, after the many concerts I've seen, NO band has come even close to the power of Zepplin and there is the most important element of that, the backbone of the music. That was Bonham. They knew it too because after his death the band broke up.
The biggest problem with Zepplin is their absolutely horrendous recordings. Page overdubbed so much he killed the Dynamic Range of the recordings. I don't know, maybe it was the equipment at the time but Reel to Reel Technology has not improved all that much over the Decades. In fact their recordings were so bad that from the first second they started playing on stage, until the end, I was in shock at their power. I can't identify what in their music makes it so powerful but, one thing is certain, without Bonham the band would not have succeeded at they did. Not a doubt. And, his impact on young drummers that followed, nobody has had such influence. Grohl did a BBC piece on Bonham that was terrific but it was taken down, I can no longer find it. Ask Grohl, he'll tell you!
Wow! Fantastic comment Thomas. Thank you so much for that input
No one is better than Bonham. Biggest talent ever.
Good list. I'd add Carmine Appice.
Bonham is such a musical drummer, you can almost hear the melody in his playing,
Exactly. Bonham was a musician first, drummer second. Most of the time with drummers it’s the other way around.
Check out Led Zeppelin's "Moby Dick" live. The 20 min. Version. It's basically a 15 min. Drum solo. Awesome!!
For sure man. That's a total classic!
@@AndrewRooneyDrums have you seen this performance? Or was it Song Remains The Same?
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Thank you Sir!
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@@AndrewRooneyDrums you're welcome!
@@ljh454 yes
This was fun watching you listen to this song not knowing it previously. It's an iconic LATE Zeppelin tune and yes, time change, key change 2-thirds of the way through, then back to original for the final verse. Please post a vid of you listening to the released song!
The static pic present for this track is from the 1978 recording sessions with Paul McCartney and the Wings for their final album "Back to the Egg." Other rock stars were present for the session, including John Paul Jones, David Gilmore, Eric Clapton, amongst others. The drum set is John's Staccato drum set. I suspect he brought it to the sessions for its uniqness and to ensure that Led Zeppelin's drum sound wasn't on another band's record.
On the mic set up - later in John's career there were more than three to four mics set up for recording. This track was recorded at the band ABBA's Polar Studios in Nov/Dec 1978 and there were at least seven mics set up. On their first album there may have been just three mics - there's a video of Glyn Johns showing the set, but if you look at pics of John in the studio for Led Zep II you'll see up five and some times six mics.
I think what happens is that many people recall recording - being the sound engineer - for Led Zeppelin and they state the mic set up -- that they did for John Bonham and people just assume - these same sound engineers were present for all of LZs sessions.
Jimmy intentionally used and switched up sound engineers over their records and some times even on the same record -- so no one come forward and state that they were responsible for Zeppelin's sound.
Fool in the Rain was on Led Zeppelin's last album "In Through the Out Door" which was released in mid-August 1979. It was the last album to feature John when he was still with us.
On his studio sound - all of John's limbs are consistent and balanced. Many drummers or drumming over the past few decades -- have become top heavy, in which the snare, hi hats and toms are played much louder than the bass drum. The bass drum in many recordings in popular music have become "buried" in the sound of songs.
Many modern drummers have a bass drum sound, which sound like a cheap clicking sound or like a plastic garbage can being kicked. It's lame.
Ian Paice was around also (Deep Purple). Fool in the Rain contains my favourite Page studio guitar solo.
Bro, you need to listen to the Zeppelin albums in their entirety. Some of the very best rock music ever created.
He uses that crazy MXR Blue box on that solo. I'm pretty sure that's the only time he ever used it. Very finicky fuzz pedal with an octave down effect.
Love his face when he first hears the groove. And he nails it, as most people know it’s def the Purdie shuffle. Who is unbelievable to watch on UA-cam by the way. Bernard Purdie is just a joy to listen to talk about drums
Thanks for the insights Mauricio!
And thanks for watching
Recorded in Abbas studio in 1978, released in 1979, it was was when the band kind of split into twos, Jonesy worked a lot with Robert and bonzo and Jimmy did their stuff separately for that album
Instant stank face then "yeah, yup, yip, yeah yup." LOL. So I think Porcaro's shuffle was a mix of Purdy's shuffle and Bonham's.
👍
With a "Bo Didley" kick
About to listen to the actual track for the first time :)
Your probably even MORE impressed now. You should dig into the Live version of "Moby Dick" from the 1973 Madison square gardens movie "The Song remains the same", 28 minutes and 52 seconds of a Drum SOLO!
Enjoy.
This was 1979
You joking?!
I guess by now you’ve discovered that the isolated track cut off perhaps the best part of the song.
Where is the follow up? Didn't even hear the best part.
Greatest drummer of all time period! Closely followed by keith moon of the who🇬🇧🇬🇧
Neil Ellwood Peart would like a word with you
During this period of rock music there were some amazing drummers! Ian Paice (Deep Purple), Carl Palmer (Emerson,Lake,& Palmer), Carmine Appice (various bands), Cozy Powell (various bands), Brian Downey (Thin Lizzy), and many more!
Ummm, you know the top three drummers are consistently voted, bonhamn, Keith moon and Neil Peart, of which Neil Peart was the only survivor past the eighties and still making music until 2015. Kind of a insult to not have him mentioned.
@@hihi2667 I`m sorry that you`re offended by my post. Have a good life! Peace!
Go to Ian paice on the mule drum solo Denmark 1972.up there with bonham
Brian Downey should always be mentioned among the great drummers of the 70s. He's a powerhouse. I'd add Roger Taylor too personally. He's unique , like Bonham you always know when you're hearing Roger Taylor playing
There were lots of drummers in those days
Bonham was just bit different, super "heavy" when he hit drums
John Bonham......John Henry Bonham!
You can also throw Mitch Mitchell in as well, from that era, and Carmine Appice. There were a few others I can't recall at this time, who could achieve the kind of control Bonham had. Of course, control is only one aspect, but not all drummers back then had the machine-like smoothness that Bonham and those others had.
The photo is from the sessions he did with Paul McCartney for Rockestra and Beware My Love.
To answer your vocal mic question, Bonham actually did backup vocals to Plant in several Zeppelin tunes.
Nice info thanks! 🙏
1979. Neil Peart was around, and he was amazing, but Bonham is my favorite and imo just sounds the best and is the most musical.
Peart is a "more is more" drummer, Bonham was a "less is more" drummer.
Album In through the outdoor, 1979. Last studio album. Came in 4 different album covers wrapped in a paper bag. You never knew which album cover you would get. John passed away the following year.
I’m not a kit drummer but still enjoy just listening to these isolated drum tracks. On this song I really like how the samba builds then drops back into that shuffle. Beautiful! That’s just after the reaction vid stops! Ha
NOT a Led Zeppelin fan .... 🙄 I just past out. H E L L O ....THE GREATEST BAND OF ALL TIME ...🎤 DROP
Kind of surprised you cut the song off before the cool drum fills when they come out of the samba part.
the recording cuts off, unfortunately - it wasn't Andrew
Led Zeppelin opened the door for me for all rock that came later…total awesomeness
Great coverage of the Legend, enjoyable!
SAMBA, yes. I am Brazilian and this beat is really samba
For sure!
Really? wow it's amazing.
Been reading the comments, some date references need to be corrected. The sessions for ITTOD were in November 1978 for around 3 weeks. The pic in the preview is from the Rockestra sessions with the all-star band in October 1978. Bonham showed up and played what was there, no big deal. Keith Moon would have certainly been at the Rockestra session but died the month previously, ironically hanging with McCartney and Linda the night of his death at the premiere of the Buddy Holly Story film. I do know that the stainless steel kit he played live from 1977 was used for some songs on ITTOD, there is a picture of the kit (and the sparkle kit, not sure if green or silver) set up in Polar Studios. Indeed, Zeppelin were the first band outside of ABBA to record at Polar and sadly the studio no longer exists. As for the comment that Bonham was drunk from his growling about something, possibly but can't be said for sure unless you ask someone who was there. It's clear however that Bonham and Page took a backseat to Jones and Plant on this album mostly because of drug use. Richard Cole stated that they didn't show up at the studio until they had scored drugs around midnight. Drugs drink or not, Bonham was tight, tight, tight on these sessions.
nice info doug n fully can believe it
Can you provide a review of Led Zeppelin's "Song Remains the Same" off their "Listen to this Eddie" bootleg tape? It's 1977 in the LA Forum. The power emanating from Bonham and Plant could light up a small city and possibly solve world hunger.
Bonham was so good in my opinion, that he holds the number one and two spots. The second best drummer (whomever that happens to be) takes the third spot.
He's a total legend for sure
Bonham’s version is the best version of the halftime shuffle imo, even though Purdie invented it.
That track was Cut short!! He was going back into the main groove with some cool fills in there.
Cozy Powell was drumming for Rainbow at the time. Another outstanding drummer. Fool on the Rain is off the last album. 1979.
Bonham, Moon, Baker, and Mitch Mitchell were the names drummers conjured with late 60s n early 70s.
Indeed!
Sir You HAVE to check out the drumming on Led Zeppelin 'In my time of Dying' from what I think was their BEST Album. You will not believe the power and stamina of Bonham
My reaction to the whole track. Some things I noted during the track (which got deleted).
1. Surprised at the featured piano. Did they use piano often!?
2. The track was 1979 which places it AFTER 'Aja' and the 'Purdie Shuffle'. Did Bonham play another half-time shuffle before this or was he heavily influenced by Purdie?
3. This track in general sounds very Steely Dan to me.
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He was influenced by perdie. He was a nut for funk and jazz drummers. Also when you hear the piano you are hearing the bleed from his headphones
@Base Ball I am reading this through again! You NAILED it All!!!
So, you're not a fan? LOL
LZ pretty much never used piano while Jimmy Page was the main songwriter. Their final album was largely composed by John Paul Jones since Page was rendered useless by his heroin addiction, and JPJ had to incorporate a lot of piano on the album because he had to write and record lead parts for songs and piano was the only lead instrument he played. Page would show up to rehearsals hours late, sort of throw together a part, then go back early to his mansion to nod out again. Really sad, but JPJ made the best of it which led to this masterpiece being created.
it is the "Purdie shuffle". The pictured drum kit is taken from Paul McCartney's Rochestra(sp) recording.
John Bonham liked Carmen Appice of Vanilla Fudge fame, and they spent time together during Led Zeppelin's first American tour.
Oh nice. Check out my Carmine Appice vids!
Very interesting to see someone who teaches drums, discover a song like "Fool In The Rain". Jeff Porcaro was very inspired by this shuffle (He said it more than once). Now you surely have a lot of work based just on the Bonham drums. Excellent video and courageous (Thinking of negative comments towards you). Best!
How could this guy not know this song?
He got some influence from Carmine Appice. If you haven’t hear an interview by Carmin, he talks about his friendship with John Bonham.
Oh I'll check it out!
Fool in the Rain is on the final Zep studio album, In through the Outdoor, which was released in 1979. Some drumming contemporaries of the time that come to mind would be Keith Moon (who died the year before), Charlie Watts of the Rolling Stones, Mick Fleetwood of Fleetwood Mac, Phil Collins of Genesis (since 1977-78, now a power trio) and as I am big fan of 1970s British progressive rock, in addition to Collins, I'd give shout outs to Yes's Alan White (Yes's active drummer in 1979) and esp. Bill Bruford (who quit the group in '72 and hung out with Robert Fripp for a bit). My drumming faves are typically British and of the 1960s / 1970s: Bruford, Bonham, Moon, Michael Giles of King Crimson and Ginger Baker of Cream. Though just a bit later (mid 70s ff.), the American Stewart Copeland of the Police is absolutely top-notch too.
sail2byzantium Ainsley Dunbar and Mitch Mitchell? Kenny Jones Nick mason?
Ian Paice, Bill Ward??
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They're fine. Admittedly, they don't generally come to mind for me as I was never as obsessive about Deep Purple or Black Sabbath as I was concerning other groups, such as the Beatles (Ringo!) Zepplin, Cream, and the bevy of progressive groups of the 1960s and 1970s--even though they do have a number of songs I much like (and Sabbath's Paranoid is an excellent all-around album, with Planet Caravan as my very favorite track).
With the likes of Bonham, Moon, Bruford, Giles and Baker (and Collins--esp. 70s Genesis, like The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway), I've always liked their drumming with their reconciliations of arty intricacy and complexity with beats and power, and in which I don't typically think of Paice and Ward--but then again, this may be me being provincial as my experience of them and their bands are more limited.
Carl Palmer, Ian Paice, Bill Ward, Bill Bruford, Keith Moon, Nick Mason, Carmine Appice, Mitch Mitchell, Billy Cobham, Ginger Baker, Michael Shrieve, Terry Bozzio.
I'm sure I missed a few, but these are some contemporaries of Bonzo. This shuffle is so clean, he was amazing. ✌
Many greats out of the 70s. Carmine Appice, Keith Moon, Neil Peart ... Bun E. Carlos!!!
Ian Paice, Carl Palmer too :)
Moon & Ward were close friends with Bonham, Moon actually introduced Bonham at one of Led Zeppelin's shows at 6/23/77 as "The Greatest Drummer Living Today"
ua-cam.com/video/7wluNKSXdxY/v-deo.html - "Whip Buddy Rich's ass"
Ah right! Maybe he was right!
Check out 'Good Times Bad Times' for a Bonham classic from Zeppelin's earlier stuff. Raw and pure Rock & Roll with legendary work on the drum kit.
Fool in the rain. Led Zeppelin meets Brasilian passion. Love it!!
I have never seen any drummer apart from JB pull this beat off convincingly
Very tricky. Rosanna similar. Yet to hear a good version!
Until now
@@InfinitelyCrazyAboutLZ uh how?
"Yep" "Oh Yep Yep". What more needs to be said haha.
HAHA!
That volume increase moment ! Unspoken statement
You are correct about the mic technique and no click. John had the best feel of anyone back then IMO. And his footwork is amazing (as is the size of his kick drum).
Just came across this... nice! Another contemporary was John "Pugwash" Weathers, drumming for Gentle Giant. Check them out - They were a band of multi instrumentalists playing complex, syncopated, very creative music. Derek Shulman (who sang directly in front of John in concert) once said his hair was parted in the back middle because John played so hard.
Moon yes, ginger was overhyped.
But no one had the power, flow, feel of bonzo
I'd take ginger baker over Bonham every single day
@@robdean704 you need to listen to more Zeppelin
@@theconfusedmango1719 I prefer cream overall
1979 Brilliant album, saw them at Knebworth 1979, they were wonderful 4th August by the way
What great memories Paul!
You lucky, lucky man. My uncle saw them when they re-uinted in 2007. He said there were grown men crying outside the O2 arena begging for tickets, offering 1000's of pounds.
He plays so clean! The GOAT!!
Yup!
That photo is NOT Bonzo's kit nor is he playing Zepp music. That's from Paul McArtney's 'Rockestra'.
"Am I being punked?" 😂 No sir, you are not! Unfortunately, that was cut off. You didn't get to hear it go from that Samba seamlessly back to the shuffle, but I'm sure by now you have listened to the actual song.
Poor place to cut it off, agreed.
For some reason, the thumbnail is from a session he did on borrowed drums for Paul McCartney, "Rockestra." The weird-looking drums are Staccato(North, maybe?) toms.
Click track? Ha! This was back when drummers could keep their own time. Reminds me of the quote from guitarist Jay Graydon: "Before there was Pro Tools, there were PROS."
Bonham was also the rare drummer of the 70s who left all the resonance and "voice" in his drums. He never went the dull, thumpy, overly muffled route. It makes me sad that more drummers are tuning that way again these days, and that Evans Hydraulic heads are back in vogue. Yuck.
Thanks for the info!
The drums were Jason's he was showing his son how to play them
One of my favorite songs ever.
The still photo is from the Rockestra Theme session with Paul McCartney & Wings from Back To The Egg album.
he did background vocals when needed.....on several songs....hence the vocal mic
Not whilst playing the drums, the recording would be horrible. Also, you would record backing vocals in a different room. The mic is there for him to talk to engineers like he said.
Check out “When The Levee Breaks “ ! Awesome drummer
Have done so Bob. You'll find it in the reaction playlist!
Jeff Porcaro confessed in his tutoring video that he had been inspired by Bernard Purdie and this Bonham half time shuffle, and developed the Rosanna half time shuffle.
Awesome groove to learn, takes a bit of practice. I like to play this to warm up, the 8th note hihat scoop, the 8th note triplet pattern on bell of ride...it wakes the drumming senses..
Did you see my vid learning it!?
Nick Mason was around, although he was playing a different genre of music for Pink Floyd. I always thought of Nick's drumming as more eclectic! What say you Andrew? Perhaps you should go listen to the song mate!
Nick was perfect for pink floyd. He added to their musicality and didn't overplay.
Keith Moon of 'The Who' was considered the 'best' drummer during this same time period with John Bonham close ... I consider both the best drummers during this time period, and beyond!
100%!
I am not disputing Moon was a great drummer and this is all subjective as hell but this is literally the first time I ever heard someone say Moon was better than Bonham.
As a 52 year-old rock fanatic, I’ve heard that the best was either Bonham or Moon since whenever, with Peart being up there too ofc. But I’m by no means a drum critic and so there are probably a few others which should also be thrown into the running.
@@DayTrooperGW //:: I'd put Boham and Ginger Baker from cream on the same high shelf!! Listen to "TOAD" on CREAMS double album, "Wheels of Fire"
I don't recall which bootleg it is but one of their concerts Moon came on and introduced Bonham as the greatest drummer in the world.
There was Ian Paice, from Deep purple, we also had Carl Palmer, from Emerson Lake and Palmer, then there was Cozy Powell, they were all great drummers.
I was literally writing it reminds me of the Purdie shuffle when you said it. Both fantastic.
Peers at the time of "In through the out door" ... Neil peart, Tommy aldridge , Cozy powell, Ian paice, Jeff Porcaro, Carmine Appice, Alex Van Halen .. just to name a few in the rock genre
Don't forget Bill ward black sabbath.
Keith Moon.
Was Bosio around then? Vinnie C also
@@mikelliteras397 indeed!
Bernard Purdie
He sang harmony with Plant on several songs....hence the vocal mike.
Oh wow!
Here’s a link to one of them...Misty Mountain Hop. According to Robert Plant, Bonhams whole family could sing well. In the 2007 reunion concert of Zeppelin, where Johns son Jason played drums, he also did his dad’s part with the harmony. ua-cam.com/video/Bb9pjvfLanY/v-deo.html
Yikes! I've been a Zeppelin fan for nearly 40 years, and I did not know that Bonzo sang backup live. Wow.
There were a few Zep songs, like Bron-Y-Aur Stomp, and Misty Mountain Hop where Bonham contributed vocals when they did it live. That's probably where that picture came from. It certainly wasn't from the recording session of this song. This was released in 1979.
This was a practice take and not the recording you here on In through the outdoor record,still kicks ass because Bonham new how to tune his drums and nobody ever could mistake his sound for anybody else’s….🤟
Gene Krupa and buddy rich were bonzos 2 greatest influences, both jazz musicians 👍
Yes David!
Gday again Andrew, I’ve included a link you might enjoy watching, definitely the purdie shuffle.
m.ua-cam.com/video/T1j1_aeK6WA/v-deo.html
GOAT ENOUGH SAID
Big call but hard to argue!
Andrew Rooney Drums , I respect your opinion, but that’s an easy call
Hi Andy, I played this years ago, fantastic drum beat, when he moves to the ride cymbal , I’m sure he’s closing the hi hat on the off beat, makes it even harder to play , as well as the ghost notes, what do you think?
I looked up best drummers of the 70's. First to 5th, John Bonham," Moby Dick", Keith Moon, The Who, no song listed, Neil Least,Deep Purple, "The Mule", Nick Mason, Pink Floyd, "One of these Days", Charlie Watts, Rolling Stones, "Paint it Black"
Who else was around at the time? Keith Moon (granted, he was dead by the time "Fool in the Rain" came out).
Keith Moon was always an awful studio drummer and they had to cut and paste / cover up a lot of his messes towards the end...
@@frottery I heard Pete Townsend say in an interview that he had to keep time in his head because Keith was all over the place
The first couple if not more of Led Zepplin's albums only 1 microphone was used to record Bonham. He could acoustically work a room. By 1975 Bonham had let the recording engineer at Headley Grange Mansion, Ronnie Nevison, use two microphones, hanging up in the air in a three story step "well" as one walked into the front of the house, for the Eight tracks they recorded at that location. Bonham would not let Nevison put up any other microphones. The rest of the material was already in the can from previous albums and sessions that didn't make previous albums going back to 1973 and had been stored. Fool in the Rain was recorded in Stockholm because of the famous "taxation exile" which a few bands named their albums after it like Led Zepplin felt to get into Great Britain was like getting in through the outdoor. It was in the fall of 1978 they started rehearsing and recording. At the time Bonham was dealing with alcoholism and Page was dealing with his addiction to heroin. Most of that album was put together, planned and written by Jones and Plant. You asked about influences, Bonham had said he wasn't really influenced by any specific drummer but he did drop Keith Moon's name a few times, Carmine Appice claimed that Bonham had watched him on their first tour and picked up some of his kick drum tricks. I hope this helps. As far as what he let the engineer in Stockholm do, I would say Bonham put his foot down on what he wanted.
Epic in everyway
Yes!