@@gregpst77 ummm yeah....he could. Just ask Michael Jordan: ua-cam.com/video/Tpk_O6TVPsI/v-deo.html And John Starks: ua-cam.com/video/x3-64I6zp7k/v-deo.html
+ucialum well if you say it like that shaq would've been nothing special too. He could only do layups, posthooks and dunks. Man the c has to be dominant in the zone, obviously shooting wont hurt the team, but its not necessary. If you play like ben or shaq you wont even need anything else than layups or dunks
+Lars Wölk Bist du Nowitzki Fan? jetzt dann auch Schröder Fan? What about team spirit. All players are saying it was very funny having Shaq in the changing room. Is Ben Wallace also a jokster like Shaq? I mean Shaq could really level up his teammates. Ben was emotional on defens ce and can shout out either after his blocks or rebound or no score of his opponents. What would happen if now Bulls Center Joackhim vs former Bulls Wallace or even Shaq. Noah is also strong. What would happen if Big Ben Wallace was drafted earlier. Ben Wallace was same year draft like Allen iverson Kobe Bryant stephon Marbury Marcus Camby Steve Nash....They did not draft him. not even in the 2nd round like Rodman or others. It really was a waste of draft rights not even got him in the second round. imagine you got 1st round allen iverson and second round ben wallace. or 1st round kobe 2nd round ben wallace or 1st round marbury and 2nd ben or nash and wallace. it really was a great first round draft but they forget drafting ben in the 2nd round. V St M U was not famous at that time. pity
This video shows how even as one of the greatest defenders ever, his skills went undervalued. He was known as a fierce presence in the paint, but his movements around the lanes were so underrated. Rodman was a better rebounder, but Ben Wallace was a way better defender.
What? He has 4 DPOYs (tied for most of all time. And is considered by many NBA nerds to be the best defensive player of all time. Rodman has 2 DPOYs and not as many people saying he’s the #1 defensive player ever. Not to mention that Chicago gave him a max contract at age 31, at a time when that was well established as being just about the end of one’s prime. Not to mention that none of that money was for his (lack of) offense haha.
I'm a Wallace fan all the way, but that was a foul big time. He didn't get all ball. First he landed on top of him, and then...stop it at 3:05 his forearm his plastered to Shaq's forearm. That's not part of the ball.
@@MrJaysoul13 alright come on he didn’t shut Shaq down he still dropped 22 a night that series with 60% from the field, he slowed him down sure but come shut down?
Shaq seems to not like to acknowledge or give those Pistons, especially Ben any credit. They were a huge thorn on Shaqs side for 3 straight years until Miami pushed through thanks to Dwade more so than Shaq tho
Miss these days. I was a senior in high school when they won the title in 04' That defense was stellar. Shaq was 9-15 19 pts. But does anyone realize that T> Prince went off for 29 that game!!!! dude always had quiet numbers because of what was around him.
Shaq was #2 in MVP voting a year before and if it wasnt for Wade`s TO in 4th quarter on game 7 against this Pistons Heat would face Spurs in 2005 Finals. It would have been awesome as well. Shaq still had it on Miami. He declined after he left Heat. Big Ben was a beast on D.
I disagree. Shaq was not even the MVP on his own team. In the 2005 Playoffs Wade was 2-0 when Shaq didn't play in the ECSF Shaq was 0-1 when Wade didn't play in the ECF The MVP should have been Duncan or Nash.
@@coloneldusty4476 Exactly. He also averaged 21.7 ppg 10.5 rpg 2.3 bpg on %65.5 fg %41.7 ft as the second best player on his team. Ben averaged 6 ppg 9.5 rpg 0.7 rpg on %66.7 fg %33.3 ft as the 6th best player on his team. Ben Wallace cant even guard 33 year old Shaq.
The NBA used to be so much better than what it is today. It's more like a circus now. No competition anymore, it's just entertainment. And defense is a thing of the past.
Ben Wallace was 6'7 or 6'9 and was so strong he could guard one of the most dominant player ever Shaq wasn't in his prime (Not really sure) but still Big Ben had an impact that stats doesn't and could never show, his defense was out of this world and that's not a surprise he have the achievement of winning 4 time best defender in the league. This man has is place in the hall of fame of basketball, I hope he will be in the future
This is 06 so this is the literal end of Shaq's prime. One helluva prime though. Lasted from like '96 cause he was in the finals one of his last years with Orlando.
I have a similar list, but I put David Robinson over Ben Wallace. 1, 2, and 3 - some combination of Dennis Rodman, Bill Russell, Hakeem Olajuwon. It's hard for me to pick one over the other 4. David Robinson. and 5. Ben Wallace
Ben could not guard perimeter players. Hakeem and Russell could switch on perimeter players for single possessions but Rodman was the only player who could effectively guard star players from 1-5 for full quarters. Robinson was an underrated open court and transition defender who got a lot of chasedown steals and blocks. He was a great low post defender and rim protector like Ben but could also play better transition defense than Ben. I wouldn't argue if you put Ben over Robinson, but I'd go with Robinson.
@@pillowhead5689 real shaq ended in 2003.after that he was just a fat shaq.well he was already fat by 2003 but after that it just went worst because he was getting older.as someone said the more shaq was winning the more he was eating.lol
DeeeeeTroit basketball!!!! Man they had Solid dynasty. their whole team were All Stars. Rasheed was a Super high ball IQ Billips was a floor General. Mr big shot. Prince was a solid Defender. RIP was my Energy they remind me of a Super hero team haha Long arms etc..
I believe there is only two player that could guard any position and do a good job and that's Big Ben and Rodman But I don't know if they would be as great in the league now as in their time, they would foul too much to be really a threat during a full game But at the same time they both had great basketball IQ so maybe they would adapt
this takes me awhile to believe,that big ben,by far could defend shaq, even though,they lost this series in game 6,when wallace join the bulls in 07 they swept shaq miami in 1st round,of play offs,thats unforgettable
yep, and he have nothing, he never knew nothing, no one dunking on him as he been into so much already, but all he knows is to work hard, thanks Big Ben, for showing the true definition of working hard, much Respect here in Europe..
Matthew Mannix what the hell are you talking about? Shaq averaged 25 and 15 in 2005 o.o he was 2nd in MVP that year behind Nash. This is the year shaq keeps talking about how Nash robbed him of the MVP. Shaq declined horribly after 2005
@@knowethjc29 Ben Wallace is my favorite player of all time. I love his blocks and Defense. But that was a big time foul. He has tons of other great blocks, but this was a foul. And Shaq has talked about it. They asked him right after the game and he said: "Don't ask stupid questions. That was a foul."
what logic is they can put Bill Walton in the hall of fame while, denying Ben Wallace entrance, OK, Bill got more friends on the committee, Ben Wallace scored more career pts, three times as many rebs than Walton
Big Ben was instrumental in the demise of the tradicional center. He proved you could hold the best center of all time to lame field goal percentages, if you are really strong and have more stamina. That is key to the small line up and the 3 point revolution. Few people give him enough credit.
If theo ratliff wasn't traded for slomo mutombo, allen iverson wud have been the one who won 3 straight. Shaq has problems with quick and agile defensive centers. But NBA hates iverson, they had to find a way to make him not win. But if u saw prime iverson, u know he was the best player to ever play the game
Why this is a foul (And I'm a wallace fan and hate shaq by the way) At 3:00 pause, clearly Wallace's body is in contact with Shaq's. Wallace landed on him after jumping. Let it roll...pause at 3:05, clearly Wallace's forearm is plastered to Shaq's forearm. That is a foul. Still cool that he hammered Shaq, but let's be honest. That's a foul. Not even close to NOT being a foul.
Me lol. It seems like Shaq is the worst at faking his misses. Even when Yao "blocked" Shaq... Shaq didn't even try to cover the fact that he let Yao do it. The layups are worse it's like he was told to throw the game because the misses look ridiculous.
Big Ben was my favorite when I was playing NBA Live 05. He could steal, block, power dunk, and was very agile.
Facts he was a defensive machine
Yessuh Yessuh from 2002-2008 his defense was wooooooooo!!!!!!!!!
Ben Wallace is the Greatest Defensive Center of All-Time
ummm no....that honor(as well as being the Greatest Center of All Time) goes to Hakeem Olajuwon
@@J-S.P umm no, he couldn't guard multiple positions like Ben.
@@J-S.P Nah
@@gregpst77 ummm yeah....he could. Just ask Michael Jordan:
ua-cam.com/video/Tpk_O6TVPsI/v-deo.html
And John Starks:
ua-cam.com/video/x3-64I6zp7k/v-deo.html
@@puuhamato6294 yeah
2:44 for the block
cuffed that shit lol
6'8 PF's that owned Shaq: Big Ben & Rodman.
My 2 favorite players
Isnt ben a 6'9 C?
+SFO14 Ben is actually like 6'6 he said
C MoNeY no hes 6'9 (7'1 with the fro)
+Tip 10K his fro big asf
Man that block where he keeps his hand on the ball the whole time, while Shaq is going down will never get old lol
Imagine Wallace being 7"1 or something, man he would have been unstoppable.
+Latrell Hutson thats what im thinking
+Lars Wölk i think his height made him what he was...he was faster and can jump and that body can take a beating my friend..
+Vol deMort ya but he would have been even more dominant, even tho he defended the big guys easily with his mad defensive skills
+ucialum well if you say it like that shaq would've been nothing special too. He could only do layups, posthooks and dunks. Man the c has to be dominant in the zone, obviously shooting wont hurt the team, but its not necessary. If you play like ben or shaq you wont even need anything else than layups or dunks
+Lars Wölk Bist du Nowitzki Fan? jetzt dann auch Schröder Fan? What about team spirit. All players are saying it was very funny having Shaq in the changing room. Is Ben Wallace also a jokster like Shaq? I mean Shaq could really level up his teammates. Ben was emotional on defens ce and can shout out either after his blocks or rebound or no score of his opponents. What would happen if now Bulls Center Joackhim vs former Bulls Wallace or even Shaq. Noah is also strong. What would happen if Big Ben Wallace was drafted earlier. Ben Wallace was same year draft like Allen iverson Kobe Bryant stephon Marbury Marcus Camby Steve Nash....They did not draft him. not even in the 2nd round like Rodman or others. It really was a waste of draft rights not even got him in the second round. imagine you got 1st round allen iverson and second round ben wallace. or 1st round kobe 2nd round ben wallace or 1st round marbury and 2nd ben or nash and wallace. it really was a great first round draft but they forget drafting ben in the 2nd round. V St M U was not famous at that time. pity
This video shows how even as one of the greatest defenders ever, his skills went undervalued. He was known as a fierce presence in the paint, but his movements around the lanes were so underrated. Rodman was a better rebounder, but Ben Wallace was a way better defender.
What? He has 4 DPOYs (tied for most of all time. And is considered by many NBA nerds to be the best defensive player of all time. Rodman has 2 DPOYs and not as many people saying he’s the #1 defensive player ever. Not to mention that Chicago gave him a max contract at age 31, at a time when that was well established as being just about the end of one’s prime. Not to mention that none of that money was for his (lack of) offense haha.
I feel like nowadays that'd be a foul called 99% of the time. All ball.
Anything that disturbs the ebb and flow of the game , or the tummies of the audience == is called a foul.
I'm a Wallace fan all the way, but that was a foul big time. He didn't get all ball. First he landed on top of him, and then...stop it at 3:05 his forearm his plastered to Shaq's forearm. That's not part of the ball.
@@billyrayvalentine3549 I wish that dislike buttons did something
@@the_appointed1142 lmao fr
Ben wallace the best defender ive ever seen
I'd say Dennis Rodman a little better.
Adrian Flores for point guard yea him Marcus smart beverly
Zacary Grasl Rodman is better I think he could guard all 5 way faster Ben is stronger a little tho
@@tubenachos rodman got 28 rebounds in a game at 6'7 230 lbs
@@jasonlim7427 We are talking about defense, not rebounding. Wallace was a much better shot blocker than Rodman.
The fact that he barely moves when Shaq tries to pump dribble him is incredible. Dude is a beast.
Ben Wallace was strong to keep up with Shaq like that the whole game! amazing defender
I watched that whole during the time you're are speaking facts he shut shaq down the whole entire game lol nobody has ever done that to shaq
@@MrJaysoul13 alright come on he didn’t shut Shaq down he still dropped 22 a night that series with 60% from the field, he slowed him down sure but come shut down?
"big ben" "king james" "sir charles" hahaha NBA love England
Is Shaq ever gonna admit that Big Ben was no pushover? ....idts
Shaq seems to not like to acknowledge or give those Pistons, especially Ben any credit. They were a huge thorn on Shaqs side for 3 straight years until Miami pushed through thanks to Dwade more so than Shaq tho
I almost forgot how much of a beast big Ben was, that '04 team was fun to watch
This is '06. They lost this series
Miss these days. I was a senior in high school when they won the title in 04' That defense was stellar. Shaq was 9-15 19 pts. But does anyone realize that T> Prince went off for 29 that game!!!! dude always had quiet numbers because of what was around him.
Shaq was #2 in MVP voting a year before and if it wasnt for Wade`s TO in 4th quarter on game 7 against this Pistons Heat would face Spurs in 2005 Finals. It would have been awesome as well. Shaq still had it on Miami. He declined after he left Heat. Big Ben was a beast on D.
Yup Shaq should won 2005 MVP IMO
I disagree. Shaq was not even the MVP on his own team.
In the 2005 Playoffs
Wade was 2-0 when Shaq didn't play in the ECSF
Shaq was 0-1 when Wade didn't play in the ECF
The MVP should have been Duncan or Nash.
The whole league disagreed from you back then so...
+Nobody Touches Jordan REGULAR Season MVP though. Tim Duncan is a good one aswell...
+Mr. Entringer It was Damon Jones fault for the Heat not going to the Finals in 05
Man Ben Wallace was one of the few players to give shaq a hard ass time on the defensive end
Sabonis did too
And don't forget rodman...
Not really. This is click bait. Shaq averaged 27 on 60 -63 percent shooting on Wallace.
@@coloneldusty4476 Exactly. He also averaged 21.7 ppg 10.5 rpg 2.3 bpg on %65.5 fg %41.7 ft as the second best player on his team. Ben averaged 6 ppg 9.5 rpg 0.7 rpg on %66.7 fg %33.3 ft as the 6th best player on his team. Ben Wallace cant even guard 33 year old Shaq.
@@coloneldusty4476 But his team still lost
Shaq was afraid off Ben since 2004. All his body language tells you that, he didn't want to mess with Big Ben.
no one wants to mess with Big Ben
Menard Sinfuego ^ yeah. even world peace lol
Menard Sinfuego No One
world peace also
+Angel Lopez you sure its all muscle? sure looks like a lot of fat in there
Such an underrated Center but surely the Greatest defender despite his smaller height.
The NBA used to be so much better than what it is today. It's more like a circus now. No competition anymore, it's just entertainment. And defense is a thing of the past.
This guy should be in the HOF. He was only 6'8 and won 4 dpoy awards that's crazy, man
Hall of Famer for sure.
He is now
Ben Wallace’s strength and power is just unbelievable.
1:57 "World War Wrestling"?! 😂 ooo Hubie....
Gotta love him though. For once a "color commentator" who knows what he's talking about and gets it.
I honestly thought he mistaked it for the NWO but nope, WW3 in WCW
It's the series where or rather the playoffs where Dwayne Wade got every freaking call
Ben Wallace was 6'7 or 6'9 and was so strong he could guard one of the most dominant player ever
Shaq wasn't in his prime (Not really sure) but still Big Ben had an impact that stats doesn't and could never show, his defense was out of this world and that's not a surprise he have the achievement of winning 4 time best defender in the league.
This man has is place in the hall of fame of basketball, I hope he will be in the future
This is 06 so this is the literal end of Shaq's prime. One helluva prime though. Lasted from like '96 cause he was in the finals one of his last years with Orlando.
Top 5 Defenders of the 2000s
- Ben Wallace
- Marcus Camby
- Bruce Bowen
- Shane Battier
- Tony Allen
Mikaél Rence T Prince?
*Ron Artest
I put LeBron there too. Dude always has top tier team defense.
Ben Wallace is the fourth best defender in NBA history imo, behind Dennis Rodman and Bill Russell and Hakeem Olajuwan
I have a similar list, but I put David Robinson over Ben Wallace.
1, 2, and 3 - some combination of Dennis Rodman, Bill Russell, Hakeem Olajuwon. It's hard for me to pick one over the other
4. David Robinson. and 5. Ben Wallace
+Nobody Touches Jordan your dum, robinson couldn't guard a perimeter player, rodman, bill, hakeem and wallace can guard perimeter players and well
+Nobody Touches Jordan they can guard both the back court and front court
Ben could not guard perimeter players. Hakeem and Russell could switch on perimeter players for single possessions but Rodman was the only player who could effectively guard star players from 1-5 for full quarters.
Robinson was an underrated open court and transition defender who got a lot of chasedown steals and blocks. He was a great low post defender and rim protector like Ben but could also play better transition defense than Ben. I wouldn't argue if you put Ben over Robinson, but I'd go with Robinson.
+Nobody Touches Jordan would u replace lebron for ben?
the post game interview with Shaq was the best though lol.
Get this man to the hall a fame already.
Hubie Brown was old then and he is still working
Rodman & Ben were the only two players that was agressive against Shaq
barkley to
Barkley, Duncan, David Robinson and Olajuwon too
Not only did he block Shaquille , he knocked that dude down from 7'2 all the way to the floor! Damn!!!!!
it's not even a prime Shaq... If it was mid 90's or late 90's Ben would vanish from the court lol not even David Robinson can stop Shaq in his prime
I love shaqs facial expressions when hes getting locked up lmao
Thats some mans work right there...
One of the best team of all the time!!!
Def one of my top 5 defenders
:53 sec mark Shaq scratching his neck thinking “forgot how strong this dude is”
that was one of the best blocks against shaq i've ever seen
It was a foul. His other ones were way better.
The Heat still got the final laugh and the 🏆 😂
bring back this era of basketball, all the politics nowadays makes the game unbearable
“Count that baby and a foul!”
-George Blaha
man i miss big ben
Greatest block of all-time for me.
The look on Sheed's face after that block, looking at Ben, was like holy shit, this dude scary
this is the game where bigman says
this area is ours
today's nba center shoots 3 like damarcus cousins,
saw 2015 nba finals and this highlight.... 2015 nba finals was pathetic
true
Shaq twerked Big Ben to the floor lol
Oh my word. Somebody on TNT needs to ask Shaq about this game. Geeezus. The deasil looks baaaad! Lol
The best defender of his generation. Better defender than Garnett by far. Garnett couldn't guard Shaq like that.
Garnett is a toothpick compared to Wallace whom is ripped
Wallace is on the peak time but shaq is over peak time
Shaq came 2nd in mvp voting he was not past his prime
@@pillowhead5689 real shaq ended in 2003.after that he was just a fat shaq.well he was already fat by 2003 but after that it just went worst because he was getting older.as someone said the more shaq was winning the more he was eating.lol
@@pillowhead5689 he was not 2nd in 05. By 06 he wasn't close to peak Daddy
That block on shack was so filthy 😭
Big ben on work!!i miss thebig D in nba!
1:53 elbow to the head can you imagine in today's NBA that would be a flagrant 2 LOL
None of today's players could play in the league at this point these are actual men
Shaq can’t even move him in the post hahahaha
Lol can't even move then why Ben fell down after guarding Shaq? It's not even a prime Shaq if it was a prime Shaq then let's see
great defender
i thininits better when you
featured BEN WALLACE on SHAQ
on the LAKERS-DETROIT Finals.
with kobe and SHAQ and the entire
LAKERS teamDemolished
Ben Wallace would OWN that Green guy from the Golden State Cupcakes
Shaq shot 15 times- hit 9. 19 total points on 60 percent shooting vs Wallace. Shaq was like 37 years old.
elite defence
Ben Wallace: Draymond I like to see you guard Shaquille
DeeeeeTroit basketball!!!! Man they had Solid dynasty. their whole team were All Stars. Rasheed was a Super high ball IQ Billips was a floor General. Mr big shot. Prince was a solid Defender. RIP was my Energy they remind me of a Super hero team haha Long arms etc..
Talk about pressure!!!
I am a Ben fan. Always have been.
As I watch him guard Shaq, it amazes me how much bigger Shaq is, than him.
I believe there is only two player that could guard any position and do a good job and that's Big Ben and Rodman
But I don't know if they would be as great in the league now as in their time, they would foul too much to be really a threat during a full game
But at the same time they both had great basketball IQ so maybe they would adapt
There was a time when NBA players actually played defense.
"ESPN HD"
Shaq was shook against Ben from that 2004 finals til they both got old
this takes me awhile to believe,that big ben,by far could defend shaq, even though,they lost this series in game 6,when wallace join the bulls in 07 they swept shaq miami in 1st round,of play offs,thats unforgettable
yep, and he have nothing, he never knew nothing, no one dunking on him as he been into so much already, but all he knows is to work hard, thanks Big Ben, for showing the true definition of working hard, much Respect here in Europe..
If Wallace played in the NFL he would have been the baddest DE or TE ever.
Draymond Green seems weaker than Ben Wallace.
Iron59 ya think
Draymond actually idolized Big Ben. That’s why he handed him the trophy when Draymond won DPOY
Uh, yeah cuz Draymond is a regular at Dunkin Donuts. Ben wasn't
How do they not sign Ben Wallace. After this big game
Shaq was already 34 in 2006. Wallace was a great defender, but he would have no chance vs younger Shaq, just like everybody else
No disrespect to Wallace but Shaq certainly wasn't in his prime at all in this season
Matthew Mannix what the hell are you talking about? Shaq averaged 25 and 15 in 2005 o.o he was 2nd in MVP that year behind Nash. This is the year shaq keeps talking about how Nash robbed him of the MVP. Shaq declined horribly after 2005
Matthew Mannix he wasn't
@@jaredleonard4944 this is 20016 moron. What the hell are you talking about?
2016? Shut the fuck up this is 05
@@ninoprado706 it's 06 read the title. Use your vowels... It helps out a lot
Spectacular rejection by Wallace on Shaq.now I know why shaq doesnt talk about the block after all these years..haha
Well I mean it was a foul.
@@billyrayvalentine3549 thank u my goodness, everyone needs to go to specsavers
@@knowethjc29 Ben Wallace is my favorite player of all time. I love his blocks and Defense. But that was a big time foul. He has tons of other great blocks, but this was a foul. And Shaq has talked about it. They asked him right after the game and he said: "Don't ask stupid questions. That was a foul."
@@billyrayvalentine3549 fax
the amount of times shaq had ben thothis ia one game allthoygh i respect both players shaq got more
The fuck? What in the fuck did you say? A spellcheck could become a friend to you
Take a pick!
Best defender in Detroit Pistons history?!
Wallace
Rodman
Dumars etc.
Shaq was 34 here and on the decline... Wallace was still a great defender
Only if Ben was on the cavs that year😬
78-82 with 3 and a half minutes left to play... 78-91 with 1.7 left to play. That, is Defense.
6:18
Man i miss posey lol
Damn even on 180p I can't see tht shit 😭
my gohd at the first play... Shaq from 100km/h to 0km/hr REAL QUICK.
what logic is they can put Bill Walton in the hall of fame while, denying Ben Wallace entrance, OK, Bill got more friends on the committee, Ben Wallace scored more career pts, three times as many rebs than Walton
2000년대를 주름 잡았던 디트로이트 피스톤즈 배드보이즈.
Imagine if Pistons drafted Melo in 2003 :(:(
He laid Shaq out
Big Ben was instrumental in the demise of the tradicional center. He proved you could hold the best center of all time to lame field goal percentages, if you are really strong and have more stamina. That is key to the small line up and the 3 point revolution. Few people give him enough credit.
If both of them were on their prime, Shaq would divide wallace into 2 pieces!!! No doubt about this!!!
How come Shaq didn't do Ben Wallace the same as Mutombo...yeah thought so...
Ben wallace is great defender
Rasheed was heavier than Ben so why Ben was on Shaq and not Rasheed
If theo ratliff wasn't traded for slomo mutombo, allen iverson wud have been the one who won 3 straight.
Shaq has problems with quick and agile defensive centers.
But NBA hates iverson, they had to find a way to make him not win.
But if u saw prime iverson, u know he was the best player to ever play the game
Why this is a foul (And I'm a wallace fan and hate shaq by the way) At 3:00 pause, clearly Wallace's body is in contact with Shaq's. Wallace landed on him after jumping. Let it roll...pause at 3:05, clearly Wallace's forearm is plastered to Shaq's forearm. That is a foul. Still cool that he hammered Shaq, but let's be honest. That's a foul. Not even close to NOT being a foul.
In today’s sido basketball game that block would be a foul
SHAQ WAS 34 AND BEN WAS 32
Big Ben is good
Anyone else feel Shaq fucked up like 7 of those layups on his own accord
Me lol. It seems like Shaq is the worst at faking his misses. Even when Yao "blocked" Shaq... Shaq didn't even try to cover the fact that he let Yao do it. The layups are worse it's like he was told to throw the game because the misses look ridiculous.