Windows Defender Sandbox Test vs Malware

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  • Windows Defender Antivirus in Microsoft Windows 10 now comes with a sandbox for application isolation. How does it perform against a real onslaught of zero-day malware?
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 813

  • @skinwalker_schizo4526
    @skinwalker_schizo4526 5 років тому +883

    *infects computer with hundreds of viruses*
    "this is actually so much fun, not gonna lie."

    • @LynKazoyuu
      @LynKazoyuu 5 років тому +7

      If one of those was memz lol

    • @ugolattanzio9152
      @ugolattanzio9152 4 роки тому

      ShxdoDxrpZ lmao

    • @de_stroyed
      @de_stroyed 4 роки тому +15

      it's a vm, not the actual pc itself, so yeah

    • @pikachu896
      @pikachu896 4 роки тому +2

      @@de_stroyed Duh

    • @joemartin1757
      @joemartin1757 4 роки тому +1

      I was literally just reading this as he says it

  • @justgiz
    @justgiz 4 роки тому +673

    I feel like i could catch a malware virus just by watching this video.

    • @whitedawn2122
      @whitedawn2122 4 роки тому +17

      Me: *laughs in immunity to .exe files*

    • @Wombat24455
      @Wombat24455 4 роки тому +7

      Apparently cyber-criminals are trying to get malware downloaded onto victim's device through youtube
      edit: so there is a chance of getting a virus from this video (not specifically from this video, just from the website itself)

    • @robloxplayercoolgirl5981
      @robloxplayercoolgirl5981 4 роки тому +5

      @@Wombat24455 O.o wait what? In what way?! 😰😬

    • @Wombat24455
      @Wombat24455 4 роки тому +1

      @@robloxplayercoolgirl5981 Through a script the attacker (cyber-criminal) injected, i recommend downloading AVG Antivirus to block the malware being downloaded because when i was browsing youtube, AVG had a popup saying it blocked a Trojan virus from being downloaded
      Edit: The free version of AVG is good enough

    • @robloxplayercoolgirl5981
      @robloxplayercoolgirl5981 4 роки тому +3

      @@Wombat24455 Okay, but that means you can get a virus through a yt video? I've imagined that it could happen, but i never knew it actually could >~< There are no antiviruses on my dad's laptop, and I use dad's laptop, I'm on it right now. I'm gonna ask dad if we can get an antivirus..

  • @TheMohawkNinja
    @TheMohawkNinja 4 роки тому +78

    To be fair, for something that comes as the default, built-in anti-virus, 90+% isn't all that bad.
    Think of it in the context of reality:
    (A) You don't get carpet bombed into submission with 1500 different malware, you get one piece of malware, if any.
    (B) Common sense will allow you to avoid at least 9/10ths of malware to begin with, so this is an additional 9/10ths on top of that, which brings the overall effective protection to at least 99%

    • @someaddictedidiot2186
      @someaddictedidiot2186 2 роки тому +3

      Ooh, memz, I wonder what that is. Probably something that makes my PC faster. Ooh it says it's a virus, nah, probably not important..

  • @HypeWrecks
    @HypeWrecks 5 років тому +216

    This is giving me an unbelievable amount of anxiety.

    • @franky-161
      @franky-161 4 роки тому +9

      if you're new to pc's and stuff i would personally get a good antivirus software (bought), but if you know certain things, than you most likely not gonna get viruses

    • @HypeWrecks
      @HypeWrecks 4 роки тому +21

      HYPERS Thats why it gives me anxiety. This video betrays every single computer safety philosophy that I have developed over my lifetime.

    • @CaveyMoth
      @CaveyMoth 4 роки тому +36

      @@HypeWrecks I know, right? My momma always told me not to systematically execute 1500 samples of malware.

    • @HypeWrecks
      @HypeWrecks 4 роки тому +6

      Cavey Möth Its the golden rule of computer security,

    • @CaveyMoth
      @CaveyMoth 4 роки тому +11

      @@HypeWrecks The cascading waterfall of errors is just a Windows feature.

  • @sixmilsix
    @sixmilsix 5 років тому +53

    Thank you, In the process of purchasing the first PC desktop I’ve bought in years. Been debating whether to rely on MS Defender or purchase additional protection, debate settled. New to TPSC, really enjoy your reviews.

  • @M1ddle
    @M1ddle 4 роки тому +38

    9:25 I love how the icons on the desktop and windows defender synced up with the music

    • @M1ddle
      @M1ddle 4 роки тому +7

      @Aaron Moody what

    • @ViperoK
      @ViperoK 4 роки тому

      @@crasheba1533 what

    • @mparagames
      @mparagames 3 роки тому

      @@ViperoK Yes it does but it can also play havoc with aps that access their own files or write to their own directory so it's not worth turning it on at the moment until MS sorts it's shit out.

    • @velp7718
      @velp7718 3 роки тому

      @@mparagames what

    • @mparagames
      @mparagames 3 роки тому

      @@velp7718 Yes it does but it can also play havoc with aps that access their own files or write to their own directory so it's not worth turning it on at the moment until MS sorts it's shit out.

  • @TimpanKanava
    @TimpanKanava 4 роки тому +110

    This must be what my parents saw when I downloaded games as a kid

  • @David-Alfonso
    @David-Alfonso 4 роки тому +139

    I feel like my computer is getting dirty just watching this.

    • @dgjm7129
      @dgjm7129 4 роки тому +2

      Do something quick before your computer do something dirty to you *insert Lenny face here*

  • @arisu7397
    @arisu7397 5 років тому +126

    Ah yes, the smell of a fresh malware in the morning

  • @saveme2000
    @saveme2000 4 роки тому +229

    9 year olds clicking on Free fortnite vbucks
    Malware installed : “its free real estate”

    • @dak0t4
      @dak0t4 3 роки тому

      aka my brother

  • @emmanel6190
    @emmanel6190 4 роки тому +90

    this is like watching ultron and jarvis fighting but way more mild

  • @ShihadMan
    @ShihadMan 4 роки тому +199

    lets all remember that he had to turn off real-time protection to actually be able to place the viruses in his computer. Thats a pretty strong first barrier

    • @ryansawyer6476
      @ryansawyer6476 4 роки тому +36

      I'm screaming the same thing lol. If you are depending on any AV to save you from executing malicious code good luck. Always, always, always take a layered approach. Good network security, followed by good backups, AV should be the last line of defense to tell you you need to nuke and pave a system. One last thing, if a user in an Enterprise environment is able to successfully infect a PC windows defender will not be the root cause and some shitty Network Security Engineer is gonna get canned 😂

    • @BortPlate
      @BortPlate 4 роки тому +5

      Some perhaps. The same result may have played out by the few that got passed that first barrier.

    • @henterpriser5779
      @henterpriser5779 4 роки тому +9

      Kaspersky still protects your PC even if it's completely off😐. It's like OK you buy me? I'm forced to protect you

    • @mrblanche
      @mrblanche 4 роки тому +3

      @@henterpriser5779 Until they send all your data to the KGB.

    • @StormFox_1
      @StormFox_1 4 роки тому

      @@mrblanche xD

  • @RogueNewbie
    @RogueNewbie 5 років тому +11

    Thank you so much for your work. I was seriously considering relegating AV duty from Bitdefender to Windows, given recent "perfect" lab results, but this just affirms my decision to go with a dedicated security suite on all our devices.

  • @theycallmeken
    @theycallmeken 4 роки тому +4

    "This one's good! We have a nice waterfall over here" That warmed my heart ❤

  • @namesurname4666
    @namesurname4666 5 років тому +52

    Imagine not watching the pc screen for a while and then you see this

  • @Saturate0806
    @Saturate0806 5 років тому +313

    Summary:
    1. Windows Defender is really slow checking files
    2. Bad detection ratio
    3. Makes Windows slower compared to other AVs like BitDefender

    • @theeskimo9875
      @theeskimo9875 5 років тому +42

      I think bitdefender makes windows slow. But I have 128GB RAM so it doesn't matter to me

    • @Saturate0806
      @Saturate0806 5 років тому +5

      @@theeskimo9875 ua-cam.com/video/4UhUZCZMJHg/v-deo.html

    • @MaksKCS
      @MaksKCS 5 років тому +82

      @@theeskimo9875
      Weird flex, but okay

    • @aaronwise1089
      @aaronwise1089 5 років тому +12

      How does anyone have 128 gigabytes of ram?

    • @zidana.p4242
      @zidana.p4242 5 років тому

      Bitdefender may be the best av for Windows but the only problem on this av is ram leak specially for a pc with 1-2 GB

  • @user-nf8qw8pq1f
    @user-nf8qw8pq1f 5 років тому +10

    Excellent forensic run. My BP went up just watching this!
    Loved your thorough, calm and clinical approach. That is until...
    "I trusted you!" LOL

  • @tacticalguy6473
    @tacticalguy6473 4 роки тому +47

    Those hash names got me ptsd from the time where i was founding and deleting viruses manually

  • @tox1c90
    @tox1c90 4 роки тому +5

    I think you somehow misunderstood the purpose of the Defender sandbox here. It is nothing at all about running any other application in a sandbox or limiting the actions of any other application to a sandbox environment.
    It's just about splitting the Defender process itself into two processes, separating the actual anti-malware module from the content parser and user interface process. The latter can then run with lower privileges within the sandbox. Just like any modern web browser is doing.
    If malware directly attacks Windows Defender and try to elevate it's privileges by hijacking the Defender process via a bug in its scanner module, it can only hijack the CP process which is running in the sandbox.
    However, the scanned application itself is not meant to be started within any sandbox environment. Thus, the sandbox feature is not expected to have any beneficial effect on stopping malware from doing other malicious stuff except when it tries to exploit Windows Defender vulnerabilities.

  • @HobkinBoi
    @HobkinBoi 5 років тому +23

    I think some antivirus experts should get onboard with the whole defender program, so they can help improve it and increase the chance of it catching malware.

    • @UKGameShock
      @UKGameShock 4 роки тому +3

      its all about money, There is more money in being better than windows defender and making competition than taking a small % cut of money to improve it. If windows deffender did a good job so many other av would go un used.

    • @UltimateAlgorithm
      @UltimateAlgorithm 4 роки тому +6

      That could land Microsoft in a lot of trouble. Even with current Windows Defender, Microsoft is sued by some AV developer. They say that Microsoft is doing discriminatory business practice, which I think does not make sense. Why trying to give some basic protection considered discriminatory. If MS make Defender too good, they can get in a lot of trouble.

    • @amirabudubai2279
      @amirabudubai2279 4 роки тому +3

      @@UltimateAlgorithm Haven't heard of that case, but I am willing to bet it had something to do with MS only allowing the user to disable Defender if they had a white listed 3rd party AV. In other words, MS was selectively blocking AV. This only affected Windows 10 home, but that is most users.

    • @UltimateAlgorithm
      @UltimateAlgorithm 4 роки тому +3

      @@amirabudubai2279 and for good reason. AV starts it service early in boot process. Would you allow any application to do that? That is a terrible idea.

    • @avert_bs
      @avert_bs 2 роки тому +1

      What are you talking about It's already good enough and catches 99% of viruses. And if you have a feeling it's a false positive, test it on virustotal.

  • @spyrost.5439
    @spyrost.5439 5 років тому +4

    Great video and as always well made!! I hope in the future we get a video as the one you did few years back with the free security challenge

  • @mikixd7956
    @mikixd7956 5 років тому +39

    This reminds me of my old computer, the sad thing is that thing didn't have virus

    • @notsim_
      @notsim_ 4 роки тому +2

      @@SergeantExtreme wtf

  • @fortune3911
    @fortune3911 3 роки тому +6

    Windows Defender is best for the people who don't click shiny "Download" button on the web.

    • @i_Ayush1
      @i_Ayush1 2 роки тому

      LOL UNDERRATED.

  • @laurpflorin
    @laurpflorin 5 років тому +30

    For ransomware protection using Windows 10 built-in tools, the only reliable way to protect oneself is the Controlled Folder Access feature.
    In the latest Windows 10 version the user has an easier way to unblock the apps that are wrongly blocked by controlled folder access.
    Unless the user has his/her own 3rd party security tool that he/she uses, it's always a good idea to create a dedicated folder on the hard drive and add it to controlled folder access, then put all the important data there. It's not the most elegant solution but it will protect your data from encryption.

    • @LaserFur
      @LaserFur 5 років тому +1

      I have to go add programs manually. And for Open office you can add .BIN to the name in the select box since it's the .BIN and not the .EXE that wants to add a file in the latest documents folder.

    • @laurpflorin
      @laurpflorin 5 років тому +1

      @@LaserFur you can ease the process of adding programs with PowerShell. And in the latest version of Windows 10 You can also see the most recent blocked apps list in Windows defender and whitelist them easier.

    • @LaserFur
      @LaserFur 5 років тому +3

      @@laurpflorin Not as useful when it just says "setup.exe" or "runDLL.exe" I need to know what folder it ran from and what command line it had. I think some companies are going to have to adapt to not being able to drop some random exe in a temp directory and run it and it and expect that to be able to update the browser. (looking at you chrome)

    • @LaserFur
      @LaserFur 5 років тому

      @@laurpflorin just to add. Thanks I didn't notice they added it there.

    • @RealDaniyalAhmed
      @RealDaniyalAhmed 5 років тому

      Can you please tell how to create controlled access folder. I am newbie and want protection from ransomware on windows 7.i have already ESET smart security and MalwareBytes.

  • @TheStarfreak911
    @TheStarfreak911 4 роки тому +4

    Very interesting video. Having decent music play on the speedups is a big bonus.

  • @TheDendran
    @TheDendran 4 роки тому +16

    13:09
    In the words of one wise Joel, who couldn't close a certain window:
    "Uh-oh, guys... ...problem!"

    • @blueberry1c2
      @blueberry1c2 4 роки тому +1

      How many bonzibuddys will i see in this comment section...

  • @justrandomguy8002
    @justrandomguy8002 5 років тому +6

    I like how you present this video , it served me well and your voice is very suitable for this test

  • @HowtoFixYourComputer
    @HowtoFixYourComputer 5 років тому +1

    Thank you guys.

  • @ParoxyDM
    @ParoxyDM 4 роки тому +17

    Came for the Defender test. Stayed for the Beethoven soundtrack.

  • @CurtisMcDonald
    @CurtisMcDonald 4 роки тому +8

    @The PC Security Channel [TPSC] I saw Python was compromised. That could be why the scan stopped without completing.

  • @benjones7848
    @benjones7848 4 роки тому +5

    For someone new to the channel, how do you collect your malware? Also what have you found to the best at preventing malware, and what have you found to be the best at removing malware?

  • @servanofmyGod
    @servanofmyGod 4 роки тому +3

    it did not look like you ran that in windows sandbox

  • @vulpineronin3460
    @vulpineronin3460 4 роки тому +2

    But there is one key issue with the test... yes defender could, in theory, do much more isolation... but to get the malware on there you admitted to having to bypass the first line of defense for defender.... turning it off so it can't scan the files in the transfer. so you are starting with a compromised system, rather than a clean system and seeing if defender lets the stuff get copied in/saved in and then installed as it would in a real-world scenario. no one turns off their detectors before putting files on the pc. Edit: and you say it blocked 91% of what 10k simultaneous executions from a forcefully compromised system... i mean, really, this is a completely theoretical situation. the world doesn't have spherical chickens, after all.

    • @pcsecuritychannel
      @pcsecuritychannel  4 роки тому +2

      There is no difference between the proposed test situation and a realistic attack vector, most attacks do happen due to compromised systems, vulnerability exploitation etc. and trust me, copying the files with Defender turned ON will make no difference (I've tried it). It just will take a ton of more time unnecessarily. If something is blocked when copying it would be blocked during execution as well (That's just how realtime protection works). The issues were caused by files that were "missed" and execution is the last step in the entry process (which is what the test was about) thus giving Defender the best odds of detecting stuff.
      Also, having files on the disk does not make it an "infected system". The infection happens when the malware executes successfully with malicious intent which is what you saw in the video.

  • @ALurkingGrue
    @ALurkingGrue 4 роки тому +2

    I believe you are misunderstanding what the sandbox is for and it really wouldn't show up in a test like this. It's an architectural change to prevent Defender from it being the source of infection. Parsing files is hard and this would help prevent the act of scanning viruses from being a vector for viruses.

  • @-zerocool-
    @-zerocool- 5 років тому +9

    LMAO I was hoping for a lot better than that! Will renew my Emsisoft for sure!

  • @cyberlisk9
    @cyberlisk9 4 роки тому +5

    My question is , since all the malware is running together, do you think there's alot of cases where the malware takes eachother out? Maybe one just completely scrambles the other? Malware Battle Royale?

    • @Nickwilde7755
      @Nickwilde7755 2 роки тому +1

      We got a, number one victory royale
      Yeah windows we bout to get down
      Get down 10 kills on the board right now
      Just wiped out hard drive town

  • @Hexcede
    @Hexcede 4 роки тому +3

    I believe likely what happened when the scan stopped mid way was due to memory usage rather than taking too long. Windows programs will frequently crash when they can't allocate enough memory (and even if memory isn't actually full, high memory usage can still make a system unstable). Generally this is not due to the programs themselves simply using a lot of memory it almost always comes down to lots of processes using a smaller amount of memory and often times this sort of instability only happens at higher CPU usages as well (both of which was definitely seen in the video).
    Sometimes lots of allocating and deallocating of process memory has caused corruption for me in the past in many programs. (I've even had OS corruption from memory usage)

  • @baddealrage
    @baddealrage 5 років тому +10

    I wonder if enabling all ATP (Microsoft 365 E5) protections would help to get a better score. I would like to see if ATP is a valid competitor vs Crowstrike and Cylance.

  • @schematic2684
    @schematic2684 4 роки тому

    Its fun seeing the little time go by in the bottom right corner

  • @ITMann
    @ITMann 4 роки тому +2

    Thank you for all the hard work you do on this channel and keeping us informed. Yes I was very surprised at those results after the test. Here we are at the end of 2019 almost, with Windows OS build 1909 and yet Windows Defender is abysmal. Even more worrying is the outsourcing of the software programming to various companies abroad, and who may not use the highest levels of testing and quality assurance. Now the ordinary person may think your tests are too harsh. Not at all ! you throw every big nuisance during your tests and as many of the worst in malware that the internet can provide so yes, excellent testing !. We all have to be less naive when we roam the internet, we need to be pro-active, careful and have the best anti-virus software. From your previous videos I can see that there are a few good commercial brands that still offer good protection year after year whatever iteration those companies put out. None are perfect, some use bigger resources than others, some cause problems for avid PC gamers, some don’t have a high detection rate, but most are ok for everyday use. It’s all about education, and as you say being informed. But we must all realise as we surf the net, and click on all and sundry, to be vigilant at all times. The same goes for our emails, to be careful what we open. No longer is it like the old days when you had to actually run a .exe file to get infected. It’s a far scarier world now with scripts being automatic and running instantly in the background. So, thank you again for keeping us informed and providing good advice with respect to security products on our PC.

    • @Vekkuli001
      @Vekkuli001 4 роки тому

      Aren't email stuff basically from the 90s or early 2000s? I also disagree with the comment about Windows Defender, it does its job well enough.

  • @Ccodebits
    @Ccodebits 4 роки тому +34

    So what happens if you didn't turn the real-time protection off?

    • @GrantsPerspective
      @GrantsPerspective 4 роки тому +9

      It probably picks up some of the .exes as malware, and the control of having 1500ish malware samples that the antivirus/antimalware can pickup isn't really a control anymore. Real-time protection should stop malware from executing just as well as it would stop it from being copied over; it's the same scan process, except it's scanning before it executes rather than scanning as it's being copied. There's a reason the python script prompts you to put Real-Time Protection back on.

    • @spaghetti9067
      @spaghetti9067 3 роки тому

      Basically it stops things from happening even when you don’t run scans so it catches threats in real time

  • @mirroredchaos
    @mirroredchaos 4 роки тому +9

    I know its unlikely that someone is gonna have that many threats running at one time like in the test, but dang, despite getting gangbanged defender continued to fight even when it lost :P

    • @scarlett5554
      @scarlett5554 4 роки тому +1

      That's Because the creator of this video hates windows defender

  • @malwaretestingfan
    @malwaretestingfan 5 років тому +21

    Everyone was waiting for this.

  • @music22life55
    @music22life55 Рік тому

    Im having the same exact problem and iv been on it for about a year now teaching my self. very thing u just said is exactly what uv figured out i just havet gotten rid of it just yet

  • @JMRSplatt
    @JMRSplatt 4 роки тому +4

    This is basically what my system would do in the 90's/early 2000's after downloading Warez and Gamez.. .ahh good ole days.

    • @TheReapersSon
      @TheReapersSon 4 роки тому +1

      0day cracks forever!!! Pull the trigger and hope you don't fuck up your computer for that sweet, sweet freeloading. Those were the days...

    • @flyingspaghetti
      @flyingspaghetti 4 роки тому

      Lol both of you noobs. I haven't paid for a game in over a decade and I didn't have a single virus. You think warez are the same as they were in the 00s?

  • @possiblydaniel
    @possiblydaniel 5 років тому +6

    you should have do an Hardcore malware check in Windows Defender (It's the one that says it takes 15 minutes)

  • @serversideissues4249
    @serversideissues4249 5 років тому +55

    You should try this same test, but with Controlled Folder Access enabled. I'd be curious to see if still gets "ransomwared"

    • @AmaroqStarwind
      @AmaroqStarwind 5 років тому +10

      I second this.

    • @iluvmyswamp7948
      @iluvmyswamp7948 5 років тому +2

      i third this

    • @abhishekmaurya3453
      @abhishekmaurya3453 5 років тому +10

      I'm sure that will prevent ransomware. It is so strict it doesn't even allow own windows software unless you allow manually. 🤦‍♂️

    • @serversideissues4249
      @serversideissues4249 5 років тому +6

      ​@@abhishekmaurya3453 So defense in depth then, right? Implicit deny. Comodo uses this same approach and still malware finds a way around its defenses. Assuming you whitelist what applications are allowed, this could definitely be a good way to protect the end-user's system. It's still a valid test because it confirms that what Microsoft is claiming about their feature, "Ransomware Protection" is valid.

    • @namesurname4666
      @namesurname4666 5 років тому +2

      That windows 7 wallpaper on your profile image :)

  • @DarkBlackEyes
    @DarkBlackEyes 4 роки тому +1

    This channel should support my windows xp

  • @ravindrabandi6810
    @ravindrabandi6810 3 роки тому +2

    Integrating with Defender ATP would help isolating the endpoints when there is something suspicious

  • @Henk717
    @Henk717 5 років тому +3

    Windows defender is one of the best second opinion scans to run on your system these days as its an excellent removal scanner. The problem is that its the baseline for avbypassing and that shows. The most popular av will always run behind but it has gotten to the point the periodic scanner can be useful.

  • @Pflanzenritter29-old
    @Pflanzenritter29-old 5 років тому +183

    Please do Kaspersky Free again.

    • @rudigerschaebbicke8839
      @rudigerschaebbicke8839 5 років тому +3

      Kaspersky
      Download

    • @ethimself5064
      @ethimself5064 5 років тому +1

      @@rudigerschaebbicke8839 Why the Free? One can but the full Poaid version for about $20 - $25 per year - that is about $2/month or less

    • @dgjm7129
      @dgjm7129 4 роки тому +57

      @@ethimself5064 cause free is 0$/month

    • @ethimself5064
      @ethimself5064 4 роки тому +1

      @@dgjm7129 Free does not work as well as paid - Thanks

    • @dgjm7129
      @dgjm7129 4 роки тому +4

      @@ethimself5064 Ehh just don't expect alot for free. So yes. Sometimes paid is better than free

  • @zosxavius
    @zosxavius 4 роки тому +7

    Can you test sandboxie? It would be interesting to see how it compares. I get the feeling it might actually be a bit better.
    I find this interesting because WD consistently gets decent results in synthetic tests, but these results would clearly indicate otherwise.

  • @Nickwilde7755
    @Nickwilde7755 3 роки тому +8

    Don’t forget: The only reason those viruses worked was because he *disabled real-time protection and put the viruses on* had RTP been on the viruses most likely wouldn’t have gotten on his VM

  • @teddym2808
    @teddym2808 4 роки тому +4

    What about the MWB & Defender combo? It would be amazing if you'd test that as it's a very popular solution.

  • @abdraoufx
    @abdraoufx 4 роки тому +44

    At this point I feel like AV companies are paying Microsoft to keep WD shity

    • @nocommentary9928
      @nocommentary9928 4 роки тому +6

      For what it is Windows Defender is a remarkably good antivirus solution. If your semi-competent using computers and are aware of basic safety like not downloading mp3.exe files defender is all you need. The tests TPSC runs is not representative of a real world scenario. No one just accidentally runs every piece of malware on the internet.

    • @reckie1000
      @reckie1000 4 роки тому +4

      @@nocommentary9928 "No one just accidentally runs every piece of malware on the internet." - You are so wrong

    • @xbotscythe
      @xbotscythe 4 роки тому +2

      @@reckie1000 they obviously haven't met my parents

    • @doznaka6715
      @doznaka6715 4 роки тому

      @@nocommentary9928
      My uncle clicks on every ad he sees

  • @TheGodEmperorOfMankind_
    @TheGodEmperorOfMankind_ 4 роки тому +12

    3:08 ah yes, fresh malware for breakfast

  • @MrBulldawg6
    @MrBulldawg6 4 роки тому

    I like your content, seem very honest and give us useful tips. Will be subscribing

  • @tungkirezaprasakti3479
    @tungkirezaprasakti3479 5 років тому +24

    why u not put ads on your videos, your content is awesome

    • @pcsecuritychannel
      @pcsecuritychannel  5 років тому +7

      Thank you for the kind words.

    • @Thundr4
      @Thundr4 5 років тому +5

      Leo has a job. Thats why.

    • @ADeeSHUPA
      @ADeeSHUPA 4 роки тому

      Tungki Reza Prasakti Indonesian

  • @ronaldddoooo
    @ronaldddoooo 4 роки тому +3

    You should enable controlled folder access and ransomware protection!

    • @madmax2069
      @madmax2069 4 роки тому +3

      Wait, he ran this test with those disabled ?

    • @ronaldddoooo
      @ronaldddoooo 4 роки тому +3

      @@madmax2069 yep!

    • @madmax2069
      @madmax2069 4 роки тому

      @@ronaldddoooo well no wonder it didn't do as well as other videos that I've seen testing it.

    • @ronaldddoooo
      @ronaldddoooo 4 роки тому

      @@madmax2069 oh, ok...

    • @madmax2069
      @madmax2069 4 роки тому +1

      @@ronaldddoooo the video I was watching (which was done this year) was doing basically the same thing as this video was doing, the detection rate was around 98% out of 1700 files ( a mix of viruses, Trojans, and ransomware, and other malware.

  • @Ograws
    @Ograws 5 років тому

    As soon as the background wallpaper changed you knew shit hit the fan

  • @OverHaze
    @OverHaze 5 років тому +5

    On the subject of A.I. and false positives Emsisoft's behaviour blocker hates videogames. It seems like everything I download something from Steam it gets flagged multiple times during install and on first launch. You also have to update the rule ever. single. time. the game is updated. I reported the false positive on Age of Wonders Planetfall right after the game came out and the behaviour blocker STILL flags the games main executable as a trojan downloader. I like Emsisoft, its basically the only antivirus that respects user privacy but they really need to fix this issue. It's been happening for years.

    • @pcsecuritychannel
      @pcsecuritychannel  5 років тому

      Haze Touché

    • @OverHaze
      @OverHaze 5 років тому +1

      @@pcsecuritychannel I just installed Remnant: From the Ashes and behaviour blocker flagged it as a code injector. I'm not trying to belabour the point I just thought the timing was funny!

    • @cschwehr
      @cschwehr 5 років тому

      @@OverHaze Security is always a dance... annoying or a pain, or else let stuff though. It goes back to the issue of a safe computer is one buried in a bunker off the Internet, but it's not very easy to use. It's kinda riding that line between annoying notices and whitelisting, or getting something in.
      I'll take whitelisting in my realm, because if anything gets in, I've got ten times the work of a whitelist.
      I respect how annoying it is though, because insurance is generally annoying - in all types.

    • @OverHaze
      @OverHaze 5 років тому

      @@cschwehr We Control came out a few days ago Emsisoft flagged both of the games .exe's as malware and quarantined them without notification. No idea why there was no notification. In fairness the false positive was corrected quite quickly. Still, I don't know of any other antivirus that reacts to games as aggressively as Emsisoft.

  • @user-hk3ej4hk7m
    @user-hk3ej4hk7m 5 років тому +2

    You should check if any of the viruses manage to leak to other users on the same computer. Windows Defender doesn't hold your hand, but it should stop any privilege escalation exploits

  • @MsZsc
    @MsZsc 2 роки тому

    i like that defender has the same notif sound as other windows ‘system’ notifs and is neutral sounding to me

  • @roberty.7679
    @roberty.7679 5 років тому +4

    Test AppGuard Solo. Their is more than just Anti-virus and Anti-Maleware
    Thanks,
    Robert

  • @musicalplankton
    @musicalplankton 5 років тому +2

    I would like to also put out there you did give emcsoft a advantage with its own background

  • @vukzlatkovic1183
    @vukzlatkovic1183 5 років тому +5

    Windows sandbox is an emulation of windows which you are able to run natvely and which erases itself upon restarting it l, and is used for testing software. Its not a security measure afaik

    • @AlpineTerrier
      @AlpineTerrier 5 років тому +1

      Yes, this guy pretends to be smarter than he really is.

  • @DarienAllen
    @DarienAllen 5 років тому +3

    You mean all the recent articles about how good Windows Defender is now where just blowing smoke up my a$$? Shocking!

  • @pattdown9216
    @pattdown9216 4 роки тому

    Thank u that was good and woth the time
    thank u for sharing im on ur site and Love the wallpaper :)

  • @potato2387
    @potato2387 4 роки тому +1

    It’s gotten much better, could you do another review?

  • @illbill5971
    @illbill5971 4 роки тому +2

    I love how you say "don't worry" when you de-activate the protection, it's so funny since we actually don't give a sh... about your PC :)

  • @DmitriyChaikovskiy
    @DmitriyChaikovskiy 5 років тому

    Great video man !

  • @nicolobirocchi9786
    @nicolobirocchi9786 5 років тому +3

    Beautiful review, request: trend micro 2020

  • @LaserFur
    @LaserFur 5 років тому +9

    I guess I'll be sticking with VMware. One note is that this new sandbox mode needs HyperV to be installed. and Hyper V can't be installed if you use 64 bit VM's in VMware.

    • @LynKazoyuu
      @LynKazoyuu 5 років тому

      Sandbox is trash anyways proven by this vid

  • @james42519
    @james42519 4 роки тому +3

    so you have to turn it off to even get it on there? well if it stops it from even getting on there it can't even run. you are bypassing a feature that prevents it from downloading

    • @jason5365
      @jason5365 4 роки тому

      I agree! I work in IT and I see Defender stopping a lot of files before they get on to the PCs (base on SCCM Defender reports).

    • @Thyrador
      @Thyrador 4 роки тому

      Never heard of external storages, huh? It shouldn't just keep you safe from downloading these things, obviously.

    • @james42519
      @james42519 4 роки тому +1

      did you miss the part where he turned it off to get it off the external storage? defender protects stuff being downloaded and stuff plugged into it. if it prevents it from being taken off the storage then it did it's job. i assumed when i said download i wasn't just saying internet but but from any source

    • @Thyrador
      @Thyrador 4 роки тому

      @@james42519 You do know you don't have to copy it to your local drive to run it? Free could've also run it from the external source.
      Also what about shared folders? Imagine another, not proper secured device accidentally put it into a folder, that's on a separate device (NAS for example).
      What I meant was: it might have not let him copy all of the malware from the external source, so there are plenty of ways this stuff can get into your pc.
      It also should prevent him from running these things.
      If Defender actually let you run this infected software, Defender failed it's purpose to, well, defend you. No matter how you got that stuff.

    • @james42519
      @james42519 4 роки тому +1

      why didn't he then? windows defender is still safe and stops about everything. should have not turned it off like he did still. if you can't copy it from flash drive without antivirus stoping it it did it's job. if you try and run from external there is a popup a lot of time and you have to allow it too.

  • @Armand79th
    @Armand79th 4 роки тому +34

    "Defender" is so utterly broken, it's not even funny.
    It can be defeated in less than a minute.

  • @ckingpro
    @ckingpro 4 роки тому +1

    You missed the point of sandboxing. It sandboxes Windows Defender itself so that it can't be easily exploited by say a malformed file when it is parsed. It's not meant to run malware in a sandbox

  • @FoxBlocksHere
    @FoxBlocksHere 4 роки тому +1

    Can you possibly test Windows Defender's built-in ransomware protection in the future? I'm curious to see how well it works.

  • @gabirican4813
    @gabirican4813 4 роки тому

    Very useful, thank you.

  • @julioaduran
    @julioaduran 4 роки тому +2

    How many files will be get copied with protection on?

  • @RheyF
    @RheyF 5 років тому +9

    Since i used windows 10 i haven't installed any 3rd party anitvirus, im just using windows defender and i haven't any issues so far

    • @LynKazoyuu
      @LynKazoyuu 5 років тому

      If you scan your PC rn with anything good it will find threats 100% sure

    • @LynKazoyuu
      @LynKazoyuu 5 років тому +1

      @Dex4Sure I'm not. I don't download programs I don't use and I don't even go near fishy sites
      Use common sense

    • @HobkinBoi
      @HobkinBoi 5 років тому +1

      Honestly, I dont use any other AV either. Really, the major thing is to just watch out for what you're downloading.
      Also another thing, adblocking can also drastically reduce your chances of getting hit with possible malware, as it prevents things like fake download buttons and scummy redirects. So you're less likely to click on something bad in the first place.

    • @RheyF
      @RheyF 5 років тому

      @@HobkinBoi yes.... exactly.... my browser is used which is edge and opera has ghostery installed on it... so far so good...also i installed spybot...

    • @RheyF
      @RheyF 5 років тому

      @Hugh Jarce hi even ads are being block... i used it in all browser edge and opera

  • @businessgoose4883
    @businessgoose4883 4 роки тому

    Since it wasn't in the description, the command is (setx /M MP_FORCE_USE_SANDBOX 1)

  • @isaacx593
    @isaacx593 4 роки тому +1

    You did not switch on the Randsomware protection dude aka Control Folder settings

  • @poland4279
    @poland4279 5 років тому +1

    When I plugged in my new mouse (straight out of the package) Windows Defender ran antimalware for some reason. This came from Amazon so no way it was harmful.

  • @irinavs
    @irinavs 4 роки тому +1

    in real life situation, you won't suddenly get hundreds of malwares at a time 😬

  • @mohamed-triki
    @mohamed-triki 2 роки тому

    This actually scared me because I only use Windows Defender.
    I think I will be switching to Bitdefender (based on your testing playlist)!

  • @johnsweda2999
    @johnsweda2999 5 років тому

    Very good would be nice to see a follow-up on how are you cleared the system and recover any files I'm sure this would be very useful

  • @ggggcccc1622
    @ggggcccc1622 5 років тому +30

    Customer: my system got hosed by a virus using Windows defender...
    MS Support-Prandeep:
    Please reboot your system and get into safe mode...

    • @dgjm7129
      @dgjm7129 5 років тому +2

      Ms-Support Prandeep: and Delete system32

    • @MichaelHadac
      @MichaelHadac 4 роки тому

      So how do You RUN a New Windows 10 in safe mode. Used to be able to press F8 and choose..? Now, I don't know.. Thanks, M.

    • @skullz3722
      @skullz3722 4 роки тому

      @@MichaelHadac 1. Click the Windows button.
      2. Hold down Shift, While holding Shift click Restart.
      3. Select Troubleshoot, go to Advance Options.
      4. Find Start-up Settings.
      5. Look in Start-up Settings for and click Restart.
      6. You will see boot option displayed.
      7. Select Safe mode and then it will boot up in safe mode on restart.

  • @boonebytes1
    @boonebytes1 4 роки тому +1

    Sorry if this has already been answered... Just curious about if you find different results when testing threats that have been around long enough to have proper signatures in various products vs. relatively new, emerging threats...? I’m guessing the latter is harder to do, since by the time you can collect such samples they’ve already been identified as threats...
    Maybe I could phrase the question a bit differently: Do you see a higher protection level against older threats or new-ish threats?

  • @shanthamurthy1234
    @shanthamurthy1234 4 роки тому +3

    Please do Video on Deep-freeze Vs Malware.

  • @nghiatn1611
    @nghiatn1611 5 років тому +11

    How did the malware attempt to spread to your host machine even when Shared Folders were Read-only, Clipboard Sharing and Drag and Drop were Host to Guest only? And is there any way to prevent that from happening?

    • @kabloosh699
      @kabloosh699 5 років тому

      Remove the share before executing the malware test?

    • @franklinAll8735
      @franklinAll8735 5 років тому +1

      You can't ever be 100% safe. It is always possible for the malware to utilise zeroday exploit in the VM software itself to infect the system, however that's VERY rare. Most guest -> host infections occur due to either having shared folders or internet connection between guest and host enabled. To be as safe as possible delete any shared folders and disable internet connection /LAN on your guest system.

    • @franklinAll8735
      @franklinAll8735 5 років тому

      @Hugh Jarce It won't help very much as long as your 'testing computer' is connected to the same network as the others are. You have to either have separate network or internet disabled before testing.

  • @_c_e_
    @_c_e_ 4 роки тому

    Just a nit pick, SETX is actually a Windows Command Shell command. Whilst true you can run most commands through powershell, you may run into some issues with the way powershell handles syntax. There are articles relating to this elsewhere.

  • @kentharris7427
    @kentharris7427 2 роки тому

    I want to make sure it just bricked your sandbox instead of your main PC. I currently have a test computer and re-image it when it get's infected which is a long process.

  • @tekmang6837
    @tekmang6837 4 роки тому +1

    What's your take on those that say that AVs introduce more vulnerabilities in Windows since they can have security holes and they have deep hooks in the OS?

  • @killermaster8685
    @killermaster8685 2 роки тому +1

    Can you make a video about Avira Ransomware protection?
    Would be realy helpful to see if its worth the prime subscription

  • @abdulmuhaimin5274
    @abdulmuhaimin5274 3 роки тому +2

    8:09 *_(Insert Beethoven 5th Symphony music)_*

  • @Vilematrix
    @Vilematrix Рік тому

    Maybe a stupid note since you're a expert on this stuff, but i assume that the host os is not connected to the default workgroup. Ive had seen other channels who made a isolated workgroup for this stuff in case the guest spreads to the host.

  • @ShubhamSingh-gw9kq
    @ShubhamSingh-gw9kq 4 роки тому +1

    That was fun !!!
    Can you please advice me on how i should keep my PC safe, i wanted to run some pirated cracked softwares, but i am quite worried about the viruses they might bring with them
    I tried to do such things in vmware but it ran toooo slow
    what shoud i do will the restore point work or i have to run such softwares in dual booted systems
    Please answer

  • @CodedXtreme
    @CodedXtreme 2 роки тому

    Always set the default Windows Wallpaper to protect yourself.

  • @AdamsTaiwan
    @AdamsTaiwan 4 роки тому +1

    I'm a bit confused by this. Are you just testing Windows Defender? Isn't the point of Windows Sandbox to test questionable software, let the virus do it's dirty work then just blow away the sandbox and enjoy a protected system? Or are you saying the Sandbox didn't protect the host system, in which case it should have been run in a window so we could see how it infected the host.
    Also, was the new randsomeware protection turned on when the randsomeware infected the system?

  • @wingsphoenix3484
    @wingsphoenix3484 4 роки тому +8

    You even couldn’t protect your own wallpaper, such a shame