I just love the way you demonstrate the MODX. Maybe because I am also an "80's guy" like you. I played keyboards in bands those days and sold records in the 80's, and I grew up with the DX7 and bands & artists like Dire Straits, Lynyrd Skynyrd, The Eagles, Guns & Roses, Supertramp, Genesis, Queen, Tina Turner, Bruce Hornsby, Bryan Adams, Huey Lewis etc. You are doing such a great job and I am enjoying your videos a lot! All thumbs up!
Those guitar and bass sounds on keyboards are extremly useful as additional elements. You could play the second rhythm guitar or the second bass guitar for example.
The guitar and bass on the Montage are excellent, but I always thought that guitar sounds were one of the biggest strengths of the Motif XF. In fact, I still use some of the Motif sounds on the Montage sounds over the newer ones. I love the Motif 80's electric guitar with chorus...
Yes to both questions. I've loaded some of the Motif samples (like their CS-80 library) into the Montage and they all worked fine. And every sound from the Motif XF/MOXF, along with all of the required samples, is built into the base sample ROM of the Montage. If you have a favorite Motif XF sound, it will be available on the Montage/MODX in basically unchanged form. Since the Montage has a 5.1 Gb sample ROM, fitting in the 768 Mb ROM of the Motif was no problem.
It occurs to me that there's a video suggestion hiding in these comments. You have a MOXF and now an MODX. You could line both of them up and do a side-by-side comparison of identical patches on both instruments to see if there is really any audible difference. I'd watch it...
@@WoodyPianoShack The Yamaha web site said its the same insides as the Montage but a stripped down version. It said the touch screen on the modx is the Montage so i wonder if they have turned certain things off in the software? 👀
I don't understand some of the comments here and elsewhere: the thing has what, 1000 preset patches or more? Some are going to be "classic" and some "trendy new stuff". Some people seem to take an instant dislike to the board because the 10 or 15 patches previewed out of 100s and 100s aren't exactly their cup of tea. And we haven't even dug into editing yet... What?!? Trolls gonna troll, I guess.
This machine is absolutely awesome. The user can bring it to a party or some concerts easily because of a light weight, but tons of effective sounds and functions. The acoustic guitar sounds shown in the beginning of this clip are excellent - I am relaxed to hear that , definitely not like the harpsichord which has some other unique characteristics of sounds. I really enjoy with you, Woody.
I've watched all the videos I could find on it, and I'm smiling. The 61 gives me the smallish, hi tech, not too pricey, legitimate synth I've been after. I hated that they went away from the "work station", but with the software, it essentially does have a sequencer, which I hate to admit, makes sense with so many "controllers" out there..it's just..kinda obsolete in a keyboard. I love it! Just what I wanted Yamaha! Finally.
Those guitar sounds are pretty good. I was also very impressed by the jazz drums. Such a realistic brush action, as if you’re hearing a live jazz performance! This keyboard is destined to be classic (oops, old Korg advertising buzzword) but you get the idea. This thing could become The M1 of the 2020’s. It definitly has the M1’s versitility, the DX7’s sharp sounds and the Wavestations experimentalness all in one package. But it is possible to turn the superknob’s flashing light off? My dad does not like the constant flashing of it.
Woody great demo, but remember that you never play more than 6 notes at the same time when emulating guitar on a keyboard. Keep up the great work buddy!
This keyboard is so amazing for this price. When this kind of music power appears at this basically dirt cheap price point, it makes me want to sit tight for another year because you know it is just going to get crazier, like i'll be watching Yamaha, korg and Behringer. Are you going to be redoing your "My Top 5 Synths" video anytime soon? haha
interesting thought - but probably not... :) i don't see any of those pro classic synths getting bumped from the top 5 list just yet... plus the nostalgia factor I have for them.
Can't believe Yamaha are still packing in those 90's sounding electro/hiphop backing tracks into this board. They are about as far removed from current music as one can get. They are in my Motif XF too, every time I switch it on I'm greeted by this awful "chilltronic" backing track. Don't get me wrong, there are a tonne of great sounds on these boards but it's high time Yamaha had a complete clean out of their VERY tired old backing tracks, they don't do the machine justice.
there is a certain style going on here that i recognise from the motif, i wonder if they are composing backing styles that blend in to the background so you can improvise and jam over the top. i've got nothing against them, they sound nice, even though they aren't cutting edge or super modern. they certainly are quite distinctive, i'll explore more of them in the future, i'm sure there are some fresher styles in this board somewhere.
Sigh... Sounds great, Woody! At the rate new keyboards are coming out, by the time the next “great thing” comes along, I’ll probably already be out of money!
The problem is if the synth doesn't support MPE its really missing out on the full range of potential expression when you plug a guitar sound into the linnstrument or other MPE midi controllers
Wow, I didn't think that anyone in the UK even knew who Lynard Skynard was!! I live in the southern U.S so you are considered a criminal if you are not a fan.. which I am not.... waiting for my court date.... cool video
moXF has an option to mix 4 sound in a performance. I mixed a bass guitar with 1 octave down (to the low B, realistically), monophonic with keep newest note, as it is missing the keep lowest setting. Does MODX have this?
Amazing video! I have a question, I need you guys help : I want to buy a new keyboard but I hesitate between : MODX8, Roland Fa08, Roland RD2000, Korg GrandStage, Korg Krome. I have a budget like 2000€. I want a good sound quality. The order is to do home production and to practice the piano. Thanks for your help! :)
Man that DX BASS IS SICK! Did you have to download the DX7 into it or was it preset? This is truly a Montage, motif, DX7, TX module all in one! I'm getting one next Thursday here in Texas at cost! ($1,033) Lucky to have friends at the music store! I like the outro music too man!
Woody, it’d be awesome if once you got more familiar with the machine to show how to build sounds from the ground up, showing the different filters, basic Oscillator sound, etc. BTW, are you keeping the MODX ? Thanks for the awesome videos sir!
WOODY...I wanna seek advice. I am in South Africa and want to buy the MODX for church...which one is the best choice? MODX 7 synth action keys or MODX 8 weighted keys?
Thanks for the advice...it will be moved around. The problem is the stores that have this keyboard do not have one on display for me to feel the key texture. I love the size of the 76 keys, however i am worried the keybed might be too light, although i did see on one of your reviews where you said 6 & 7 has good keybed with a bit of pressure sensitivity. I believe that is by far better than Korg Krome 61 and 73 keys
Great sounds Woody.. My MOXF6 has similar guitars though, not as many fx probs. Layered with my TG77 it sounds awesome. All in 1 board is tempting though.
Love your videos as a musician!! I am thinking about change my key setup. I have moxf6 , novation ks5 and moog miniature. I will sell all of them and get a modx7. My new set up will be nord stage 2 ex hp76 Nord lead a1 Yamaha modx7 Is it worth it after moxf6? Need to hear your advices. Thanks:-))
Yamaha has had by far the best acoustic and electric guitar and electric bass sounds in a keyboard since they released the Motif ES series workstations in 2003. Roland is second best but Korg can honestly hide their head in shame when it comes to their guitar and bass sounds, even in their multi gigabyte Kronos and Nautilus ROM. My 1995 Trinity has better guitar sounds than the 2021 Kronos and Nautilus that has only 24MB of waveform ROM, not several gigabytes!
Motif ES was released in 2003 having 1GB of user memory . Montage is released in 2018 having only 2GB of user memory over ES. Strange right ? . With a 100$ cheap personal computer you can have 16 GB of memory if you want . But with this 4000$ synth you can't put more user memory space even if you want that . I think Yamaha are afraid to put more user memory because in such case they won't sell future products . That's why they expand only the factory library space of new products and the user memory remains limited to 1gb since Motif ES that was released in 2003 . What a tricky conspiracy to rip our money . 16 years have passed and they don't want the user to have more memory So they avoid putting 2 ram slots (user option if he want to buy 32gb of ram or flash or not over the 1gb of factory flash) and instead they promote their new products saying that the factory sample memory was expanded from 700mb to 5 GB...etc etc . So they always maintain user memory as low as possible because they promote their new products using the factory sample memory size as marketing tactic . This way some users will buy the new flagships because they are tired of the factory sounds and only 1gb of flash user memory is a joke ...marketing tactics folks . Is not practical to load erase and reload sound banks by staying limited in 1gb....I have 50 Motif XS sound banks . But I can load only 3 or 4 and if I want to load a new one I need to erase the ones that are stored so you can have 100 banks but will be a pain to load reload for different projects .. Now I use a PC and I can have as much memory I need ...
Probably can get there with these sounds plus parametric 3 band EQ which is ON BOARD. Also when some people say warm they really mean wet. How much reverb and micro-delays (10 ms) you add.
@@xp50player Yeah. Either way - If I'm paying money I expect realistic. Not half ass programmed garbage. There is some ok sounds in this, but were in 2018. Not 1998.
These sounds are nothing like real guitars. The distorted one sounds like a Fender Rhodes with the volume turned up too far. The basses are better, but I can get those sounds out of my 30 year old Kawai K1. There are some great sounds in the MODX, but if I wanted a guitar sound, I'd just play a real one.
I just love the way you demonstrate the MODX. Maybe because I am also an "80's guy" like you. I played keyboards in bands those days and sold records in the 80's, and I grew up with the DX7 and bands & artists like Dire Straits, Lynyrd Skynyrd, The Eagles, Guns & Roses, Supertramp, Genesis, Queen, Tina Turner, Bruce Hornsby, Bryan Adams, Huey Lewis etc.
You are doing such a great job and I am enjoying your videos a lot! All thumbs up!
thumbs up for the comment, thanks!
WOODY, I ALWAYS APPRECIATE YOUR ENTHUSIASM FOR SYNTHS, SO THANKS FOR ALL YOUR VIDEOS AND PLEASE KEEP MAKING THEM !!
Those guitar and bass sounds on keyboards are extremly useful as additional elements. You could play the second rhythm guitar or the second bass guitar for example.
Yes! I've watched the whole stream archive yesterday and those guitars, especially electric, distorted ones, sound really compelling!
thanks for taking the time to do that!
I can't wait for synths and arpeggios. Great videos.
saturday!
The guitar and bass on the Montage are excellent, but I always thought that guitar sounds were one of the biggest strengths of the Motif XF. In fact, I still use some of the Motif sounds on the Montage sounds over the newer ones. I love the Motif 80's electric guitar with chorus...
i heard you can load the motif sounds on the montage, wonder if all the sample waveforms from the motif are onboard. have you tried that yourself?
Yes to both questions. I've loaded some of the Motif samples (like their CS-80 library) into the Montage and they all worked fine. And every sound from the Motif XF/MOXF, along with all of the required samples, is built into the base sample ROM of the Montage. If you have a favorite Motif XF sound, it will be available on the Montage/MODX in basically unchanged form. Since the Montage has a 5.1 Gb sample ROM, fitting in the 768 Mb ROM of the Motif was no problem.
It occurs to me that there's a video suggestion hiding in these comments. You have a MOXF and now an MODX. You could line both of them up and do a side-by-side comparison of identical patches on both instruments to see if there is really any audible difference. I'd watch it...
@@WoodyPianoShack The Yamaha web site said its the same insides as the Montage but a stripped down version.
It said the touch screen on the modx is the Montage so i wonder if they have turned certain things off in the software? 👀
@@darrenhirst9900 i think the capabilities and features are the same, just buttons, keybed & controllers, construction that is different
Great demo of the modx. I bought one after seeing this.
I don't understand some of the comments here and elsewhere: the thing has what, 1000 preset patches or more? Some are going to be "classic" and some "trendy new stuff". Some people seem to take an instant dislike to the board because the 10 or 15 patches previewed out of 100s and 100s aren't exactly their cup of tea. And we haven't even dug into editing yet... What?!?
Trolls gonna troll, I guess.
haha, well said Robo! we've only scratched the surface, I haven't even formed my own opinion yet.
Over 2000 sounds plus free ones on Yamaha site.
This machine is absolutely awesome. The user can bring it to a party or some concerts easily because of a light weight, but tons of effective sounds and functions.
The acoustic guitar sounds shown in the beginning of this clip are excellent - I am relaxed to hear that , definitely not like the harpsichord which has some other unique characteristics of sounds. I really enjoy with you, Woody.
I'm saving up my money for this keyboard, wow
I dont know how to play slide note on one string and how you can play harmonic sound. can you show us - thanks
I've watched all the videos I could find on it, and I'm smiling. The 61 gives me the smallish, hi tech, not too pricey, legitimate synth I've been after. I hated that they went away from the "work station", but with the software, it essentially does have a sequencer, which I hate to admit, makes sense with so many "controllers" out there..it's just..kinda obsolete in a keyboard. I love it! Just what I wanted Yamaha! Finally.
it does have a sequencer but yamaha are playing it down, i'll have to dig into it and see what it can and can't do. keep on smiling!
@@WoodyPianoShack Please.
Those guitar sounds are pretty good. I was also very impressed by the jazz drums. Such a realistic brush action, as if you’re hearing a live jazz performance! This keyboard is destined to be classic (oops, old Korg advertising buzzword) but you get the idea. This thing could become The M1 of the 2020’s. It definitly has the M1’s versitility, the DX7’s sharp sounds and the Wavestations experimentalness all in one package. But it is possible to turn the superknob’s flashing light off? My dad does not like the constant flashing of it.
You can turn it off in the settings.
Woody great demo, but remember that you never play more than 6 notes at the same time when emulating guitar on a keyboard. Keep up the great work buddy!
good point there Mad, I always must remember to "breathe" when playing brass and woodwinds too!
Great Woody! Would be nice to see which performance you are playing though.
This keyboard is so amazing for this price. When this kind of music power appears at this basically dirt cheap price point, it makes me want to sit tight for another year because you know it is just going to get crazier, like i'll be watching Yamaha, korg and Behringer. Are you going to be redoing your "My Top 5 Synths" video anytime soon? haha
interesting thought - but probably not... :) i don't see any of those pro classic synths getting bumped from the top 5 list just yet... plus the nostalgia factor I have for them.
The guitar sounds are okay. The sound at 7:15 is nostalgic beyond belief though.
The Mark Knopfler riff sounded great. It seems to me there is a LOT of potential in that synth especially if one digs into the programming.
Can't believe Yamaha are still packing in those 90's sounding electro/hiphop backing tracks into this board. They are about as far removed from current music as one can get. They are in my Motif XF too, every time I switch it on I'm greeted by this awful "chilltronic" backing track. Don't get me wrong, there are a tonne of great sounds on these boards but it's high time Yamaha had a complete clean out of their VERY tired old backing tracks, they don't do the machine justice.
benjahnz In a few years that sound will be new again (the 20 year cycle)
Gotta keep that lo-fi bedtime music coming. Actually, that sort of thing is my bedtime music, so I'm OK with it.
there is a certain style going on here that i recognise from the motif, i wonder if they are composing backing styles that blend in to the background so you can improvise and jam over the top. i've got nothing against them, they sound nice, even though they aren't cutting edge or super modern. they certainly are quite distinctive, i'll explore more of them in the future, i'm sure there are some fresher styles in this board somewhere.
Exactly...same old crap sounds, same old song...different plastic cup...OMG
Hopefully you'll uncover some fresher styles in there somewhere.
You get a free CS 80 sample library with a MODX
This keyboard is a beast and I love mine . Just wish I could figure out the sequencer.
i work with complex IT projects on a daily basis, but still can't figure out how to make a sequence with the arpeggiator...
Sigh... Sounds great, Woody! At the rate new keyboards are coming out, by the time the next “great thing” comes along, I’ll probably already be out of money!
The problem is if the synth doesn't support MPE its really missing out on the full range of potential expression when you plug a guitar sound into the linnstrument or other MPE midi controllers
1:20 "My knob is too big" ... something you mustn't take out of context. ^_^
Not to mention what the mug says on his desk too!
i edited out the context, probably a big mistake...
That "size matters" mug doesn't help, either....
We all know what you were talking about, Woody ;)
It's the synth knob! How could anybody think otherwise? That's just *silly*.
2 late it did the moment it came. But this keyboard let it float away back to demo mode.
My SY99 is currently slowly breaking down, this seems like an awesome alternative, just can't part with the old friend yet.
What is failing?. I restored my SY77 and it is now performing like new. You can check my work at: www.jvgavila.com/Yamaha_SY77_repair.htm
Wow, I didn't think that anyone in the UK even knew who Lynard Skynard was!! I live in the southern U.S so you are considered a criminal if you are not a fan.. which I am not.... waiting for my court date.... cool video
We know good music when we hear it.
Some of the sounds aren't bang on but overall Yamaha have hit the nail on the head with the MODX.
Wow ok these are great.
What is the name of the rock guitar patch at 11:39?
sorry, didn't make a note of it
moXF has an option to mix 4 sound in a performance. I mixed a bass guitar with 1 octave down (to the low B, realistically), monophonic with keep newest note, as it is missing the keep lowest setting. Does MODX have this?
..can we agree to add a little "almost" to the title of this video? ;-)
Amazing video!
I have a question, I need you guys help : I want to buy a new keyboard but I hesitate between : MODX8, Roland Fa08, Roland RD2000, Korg GrandStage, Korg Krome. I have a budget like 2000€. I want a good sound quality. The order is to do home production and to practice the piano. Thanks for your help! :)
Raphaël EL-BAZE MODX...sounds great and very flexible! & a lot of video support to maximize your use of the board.
Man that DX BASS IS SICK! Did you have to download the DX7 into it or was it preset? This is truly a Montage, motif, DX7, TX module all in one! I'm getting one next Thursday here in Texas at cost! ($1,033) Lucky to have friends at the music store! I like the outro music too man!
yamaha paying tribute to their legacy, stumbled across lots of dx7 presets, outro music is moxf :)
HI~ Can it play "strumming style" acoustic guitar ?
i don't think so. if there is such a patch, then I doubt if it will be realistic.
Great sound!
Woody, it’d be awesome if once you got more familiar with the machine to show how to build sounds from the ground up, showing the different filters, basic Oscillator sound, etc.
BTW, are you keeping the MODX ?
Thanks for the awesome videos sir!
no plans to let the modx go! thanks for the suggest, bobeats did quite a nice job of showcasing the internals
Woody Piano Shack hey, that’s great to hear!
WOODY...I wanna seek advice. I am in South Africa and want to buy the MODX for church...which one is the best choice? MODX 7 synth action keys or MODX 8 weighted keys?
if you've got some good piano players at the church, lots of space and won't be moving it around then the 88 is king!
Thanks for the advice...it will be moved around. The problem is the stores that have this keyboard do not have one on display for me to feel the key texture. I love the size of the 76 keys, however i am worried the keybed might be too light, although i did see on one of your reviews where you said 6 & 7 has good keybed with a bit of pressure sensitivity. I believe that is by far better than Korg Krome 61 and 73 keys
4.35...hahahaha so funny. Loved it !
Yamaha gives you A CS 80 sample library with this.Has anyone tried it?
Thanks Woody for this!
Street price yet?
it's already on sale at many online retailers, haven't checked myself.
2:31 - 7 String guitars can go that low, as well as bass acoustic ones.
The grooves starting at 8:25 was INSANE af. And I just got the Roland FA-06 too. I will trade my JUNO-Ds 88 for this monster case this insane asF!!!
FORALL2HEAR TV you can create that groove in your fa.🤷🏾♂️
Great sounds Woody.. My MOXF6 has similar guitars though, not as many fx probs. Layered with my TG77 it sounds awesome. All in 1 board is tempting though.
Can we hear something 'bout choir (big choir i mean) and mellotron sound in next videos, please?
Love your videos as a musician!!
I am thinking about change my key setup. I have moxf6 , novation ks5 and moog miniature. I will sell all of them and get a modx7. My new set up will be
nord stage 2 ex hp76
Nord lead a1
Yamaha modx7
Is it worth it after moxf6?
Need to hear your advices.
Thanks:-))
Whoo A1!!!
great choice of boards! but you may find the modx covers the sounds of the nord and a1. live rig or studio?
Yamaha has had by far the best acoustic and electric guitar and electric bass sounds in a keyboard since they released the Motif ES series workstations in 2003. Roland is second best but Korg can honestly hide their head in shame when it comes to their guitar and bass sounds, even in their multi gigabyte Kronos and Nautilus ROM. My 1995 Trinity has better guitar sounds than the 2021 Kronos and Nautilus that has only 24MB of waveform ROM, not several gigabytes!
Hello Woody. Great one. Try copying a bit of Spanish Flamenco!! I do a little bit. Best regards. Phil
right, those chords and scales just didn't come to mind at the time...
@@WoodyPianoShack I watched this video and he does sounds like he's playing a guitar and not a keyboard.
ua-cam.com/video/CLtwHzJ2s3g/v-deo.html
Motif ES was released in 2003 having 1GB of user memory . Montage is released in 2018 having only 2GB of user memory over ES. Strange right ? . With a 100$ cheap personal computer you can have 16 GB of memory if you want . But with this 4000$ synth you can't put more user memory space even if you want that .
I think Yamaha are afraid to put more user memory because in such case they won't sell future products . That's why they expand only the factory library space of new products and the user memory remains limited to 1gb since Motif ES that was released in 2003 . What a tricky conspiracy to rip our money .
16 years have passed and they don't want the user to have more memory
So they avoid putting 2 ram slots (user option if he want to buy 32gb of ram or flash or not over the 1gb of factory flash) and instead they promote their new products saying that the factory sample memory was expanded from 700mb to 5 GB...etc etc . So they always maintain user memory as low as possible because they promote their new products using the factory sample memory size as marketing tactic .
This way some users will buy the new flagships because they are tired of the factory sounds and only 1gb of flash user memory is a joke ...marketing tactics folks . Is not practical to load erase and reload sound banks by staying limited in 1gb....I have 50 Motif XS sound banks . But I can load only 3 or 4 and if I want to load a new one I need to erase the ones that are stored so you can have 100 banks but will be a pain to load reload for different projects ..
Now I use a PC and I can have as much memory I need ...
I still prefer the warmer guitar and bass sounds on the Roland FA/Integra 😀 Those FM bass sounds though 😭
Probably can get there with these sounds plus parametric 3 band EQ which is ON BOARD. Also when some people say warm they really mean wet. How much reverb and micro-delays (10 ms) you add.
To me it is more than that - they are fuller and thicker. Check out ua-cam.com/video/sZaNYCFhPTo/v-deo.html
The beginning was supposed to be a guitar? Maybe if you said harpsichord, haha.
for a real guitar VST MUSICLAB REAL GUITAR that sounds like a REAL GUITAR !
As a guitar player for over 40 years the guitar sounds STILL sound lie keyboard guitar sounds and NOT a real guitar. Unfortunate...
Has anybody youtube'd strawberry guitar vsts? Holy shit. I was expecting that kind of quality in this. Really disappointed.
You mean Orange Tree Samples , with the Evolution Strawberry and others? The best, and unlikely a keyboard will ever have that level of detail.
@@xp50player Yeah. Either way - If I'm paying money I expect realistic. Not half ass programmed garbage. There is some ok sounds in this, but were in 2018. Not 1998.
These sounds are nothing like real guitars. The distorted one sounds like a Fender Rhodes with the volume turned up too far. The basses are better, but I can get those sounds out of my 30 year old Kawai K1. There are some great sounds in the MODX, but if I wanted a guitar sound, I'd just play a real one.
Playing the piano you are disastrous, only good sounds save you ...
Korgs sound the best at Acoustic guitars, this sounds plastic
Let me guess - you own a Korg...?