I agree Springer Spaniel best and I've seen some very impressive Cockers...cockers making a come back as hunting dog vs lap dog...wind them up and OMG.
English setters are the best, grooming issues can be managed by a preseason trim and a protective dog vest. I’ve hunted over labs, GSPs, Brit’s and setters (Llewelin specifically) and the setters win for hunting instinct, endurance, and love everyone mellow personality. After 2 setters I’ve learned that their instincts are so strong the dog trains the hunter more than the hunter training the dog.
New to the channel. Appreciate the images. Are you just reading the info from another author(s) or speaking from first hand knowledge ? Couldn't really decide...
I have first hand knowledge of several of these breeds. The rest come from my hunting circles. This is why there are some hunting breeds that I actually didn’t mention - but have since had people get upset with me for not including them.
@@DogFocusTrainingI thought you were very genuine and honest with your opinions. You mentioned the dogs that you haven't hunted with, ie German wirehaired pointer and you could tell you know a lot about the ones you have hunted with. You obviously didn't mention all the bird dogs, for example the springer spaniel but you were honest enough to say you haven't experience with other dogs. All in all I really enjoyed the video and your honesty about your bias towards the Labs.
Yes, the Lab of any color is a wonderful dog. You can't think of any negatives? OK, that sweeping tail can clear off a coffee table, and you can't say that of a Britt or a GSP! Anything else? Well, most Labs are overweight because they eat everything they can get into their mouths--but that is more the fault of their indulgent owners.
I can't take your list seriously. You've left off your list the English Springer Spaniel! Adding some dogs without US track records that you admit you've never hunted behind. ??? Springers eager to please, easy to train, hunt close (i.e. not out 1/4 mile out in front...Britany), great retrievers...some pointer won't retrieve, will cover more ground quicker than a Lab, strong swimmers (my Springer better in H20 than half the Labs), great family dog. I've hunted behind many of the pointers and most of the retrievers on your list. Hands down Springers the most versatile. (hunted behind many springers not just my own) Also been to several Springer Hunt Test and Field trials. To include some of the odd ball, rare to US breeds without mentioning the Springer???? P.S. energy in the field.
You’re not the first to point out this omission. All I can say is that I have never hunted behind one and it didn’t come up in my group of discussions with my hunting buddies. So, I recognize the oversight. I would probably add them in an updated version.
For the very dense/difficult vegetation I hunt in (MN), I prefer retrievers. I choose Goldens because IMHO, they are the best looking of the retrievers.
They're the exact same dogs, they just indicate where the prey is in slightly different ways. Have a day off and try and give some constructive criticism.
Maybe somebody here can help me. I've never owned a hunting dog before, and I have no idea what I actually need for the job(s) at hand or even if my thoughts are already unrealistic. Looks, grooming, size, and shedding are all complete non-factors to me. I have plenty of space and a family that can put in the time with me. Children will be in the mix in the future, and being in a highly rural environment will be tought about animal handling from as young an age as they can start to comprehend. We typically have cats for mousers and a very few head of random livestock if market prices are dynamite. I've also owned seven German Shepards, a Chao/German Shepard mix, Coyote/Shepard mix, and a Lab/Pitbull mix. I live in an area that can get anywhere from -40°F to 100°F, snow is a factor, water is in the mix, and most of the working temps during season are frosty to 70s. Just a hair south of the Great Lakes area and bit north of the Driftless. I'd love a dog that can work pheasants, grouse, geese, and retrieve ducks. I'm guessing that's a pretty tall order to have. If someone could point me in the right direction on how to figure this out that'd be great. Researching the specifics of over forty breeds is a very tall order and consulting someone knowledgeable would really trim down my time. In all seriousness, though, we're not in a rush.
I am very biased, but in my opinion the best all-around upland game/waterfowl/family dog is a well bred Labrador Retriever. They were bred for every type of bird hunting possible and they are super eager to please (which makes training so much easier). They do good in colder temps and with the neoprene jackets available for dogs now, we hunt geese in Idaho in January. My Lab goes into the Snake River for ducks and geese all season long.
@@DogFocusTraining Labs are insanely popular out here, and what you're saying makes perfect sense to me. That's definitely one of the breeds I'm looking into. The only thing that concerns me about them is that they're highly social dogs, and with our schedules as they are this moment I think it'd be kinda neglectful to leave it alone for a good chunk of the day. If he had a buddy (another dog, maybe even one with the same purpose) would that curb the issue or would that be like chucking gas on a grease fire?
@dogfocus3988 Large Münsterländer and Small Münsterländer (not related to each other) are one of the best and most successful pointing dogs. I'm surprised you don't know about these breeds.
What about the Griffon? I have heard those are great bird dogs?
Ever hear of a field Springer Spaniel? Or a cocker? How could you miss them
OMG yes
Vizsla!
You forgot the spaniels! Them psycho dogs should be in this! Cocker and springer mostly.
I agree Springer Spaniel best and I've seen some very impressive Cockers...cockers making a come back as hunting dog vs lap dog...wind them up and OMG.
Best dog I've owned and hunted over was an English springer
Yes much better than a lumbering Lab and most pointers won't retrieve.
You missed Wirehaired Pointing Griffon, just got a new pup, she’s amazing
i think the flat coated retriver is good to for hunting
English setters are the best, grooming issues can be managed by a preseason trim and a protective dog vest. I’ve hunted over labs, GSPs, Brit’s and setters (Llewelin specifically) and the setters win for hunting instinct, endurance, and love everyone mellow personality. After 2 setters I’ve learned that their instincts are so strong the dog trains the hunter more than the hunter training the dog.
It’s pretty hard to beat a Labrador for an overall, go hunt anything kind of dog
I love your list. Some people seem to demand that you can't like what you like and that you must like what THEY like. Weird people.
Thanks. This list is definitely based on my personal experience hunting behind these breeds.
New to the channel. Appreciate the images. Are you just reading the info from another author(s) or speaking from first hand knowledge ? Couldn't really decide...
I have first hand knowledge of several of these breeds. The rest come from my hunting circles. This is why there are some hunting breeds that I actually didn’t mention - but have since had people get upset with me for not including them.
@@DogFocusTrainingI thought you were very genuine and honest with your opinions. You mentioned the dogs that you haven't hunted with, ie German wirehaired pointer and you could tell you know a lot about the ones you have hunted with. You obviously didn't mention all the bird dogs, for example the springer spaniel but you were honest enough to say you haven't experience with other dogs. All in all I really enjoyed the video and your honesty about your bias towards the Labs.
Yes, the Lab of any color is a wonderful dog. You can't think of any negatives? OK, that sweeping tail can clear off a coffee table, and you can't say that of a Britt or a GSP! Anything else? Well, most Labs are overweight because they eat everything they can get into their mouths--but that is more the fault of their indulgent owners.
I can't take your list seriously. You've left off your list the English Springer Spaniel! Adding some dogs without US track records that you admit you've never hunted behind. ??? Springers eager to please, easy to train, hunt close (i.e. not out 1/4 mile out in front...Britany), great retrievers...some pointer won't retrieve, will cover more ground quicker than a Lab, strong swimmers (my Springer better in H20 than half the Labs), great family dog. I've hunted behind many of the pointers and most of the retrievers on your list. Hands down Springers the most versatile. (hunted behind many springers not just my own) Also been to several Springer Hunt Test and Field trials. To include some of the odd ball, rare to US breeds without mentioning the Springer???? P.S. energy in the field.
You’re not the first to point out this omission. All I can say is that I have never hunted behind one and it didn’t come up in my group of discussions with my hunting buddies. So, I recognize the oversight. I would probably add them in an updated version.
@@DogFocusTrainingsome people are so dogmatic when it comes to their favourite breed, pun intended 😂
For the very dense/difficult vegetation I hunt in (MN), I prefer retrievers. I choose Goldens because IMHO, they are the best looking of the retrievers.
Setters aren't Pointers, THEY ARE SETTERS! Completely different. As others have noted, you apparently have NO CLUE what you're talking about...
He has no clue what he likes?? How about instead of insulting, try making your own videos.
They're the exact same dogs, they just indicate where the prey is in slightly different ways. Have a day off and try and give some constructive criticism.
On the 7th Day He created the English Springer Spaniel !
I think English pointer is one of the best bird hunting dogs
Chesapeake Bay Retriever for me. I had one that can point.
Love me some labs!!!!
Me too!! All day and every day.
Some people use beagles for pheasant hunting.
Maybe somebody here can help me. I've never owned a hunting dog before, and I have no idea what I actually need for the job(s) at hand or even if my thoughts are already unrealistic.
Looks, grooming, size, and shedding are all complete non-factors to me. I have plenty of space and a family that can put in the time with me. Children will be in the mix in the future, and being in a highly rural environment will be tought about animal handling from as young an age as they can start to comprehend. We typically have cats for mousers and a very few head of random livestock if market prices are dynamite.
I've also owned seven German Shepards, a Chao/German Shepard mix, Coyote/Shepard mix, and a Lab/Pitbull mix.
I live in an area that can get anywhere from -40°F to 100°F, snow is a factor, water is in the mix, and most of the working temps during season are frosty to 70s. Just a hair south of the Great Lakes area and bit north of the Driftless.
I'd love a dog that can work pheasants, grouse, geese, and retrieve ducks. I'm guessing that's a pretty tall order to have.
If someone could point me in the right direction on how to figure this out that'd be great. Researching the specifics of over forty breeds is a very tall order and consulting someone knowledgeable would really trim down my time.
In all seriousness, though, we're not in a rush.
I am very biased, but in my opinion the best all-around upland game/waterfowl/family dog is a well bred Labrador Retriever. They were bred for every type of bird hunting possible and they are super eager to please (which makes training so much easier). They do good in colder temps and with the neoprene jackets available for dogs now, we hunt geese in Idaho in January. My Lab goes into the Snake River for ducks and geese all season long.
@@DogFocusTraining Labs are insanely popular out here, and what you're saying makes perfect sense to me.
That's definitely one of the breeds I'm looking into. The only thing that concerns me about them is that they're highly social dogs, and with our schedules as they are this moment I think it'd be kinda neglectful to leave it alone for a good chunk of the day.
If he had a buddy (another dog, maybe even one with the same purpose) would that curb the issue or would that be like chucking gas on a grease fire?
English pointer?
🤦🏼♂️ How did I miss that breed? Thanks
Where are the Munsterlanders?
Okay, I need an education. What is a munsterlander?
@dogfocus3988 Large Münsterländer and Small Münsterländer (not related to each other) are one of the best and most successful pointing dogs. I'm surprised you don't know about these breeds.
probably a boykin spaniel too
Vizsla
I hunt birds with my springadors 😁
What about Beagle?
Not a bird dog, Rabbits are more their prey.
Visla
SPRINGER SPANIEL!!!!!
Yup, you missed the poodle
I have hunted with two poodles - or tried to hunt with them and it was a disaster
You can’t love it that much because are are clueless