Hey there Kap & Curtis. Good seeing you guys going at it in the Illinois soil. I would have enjoyed having either of those nice excavators to clear the tiny micro plot I attempted to clear several years ago by hand. I do know one thing, I will no longer cut trees off at the base without leaving a considerable amount of tree to use as a leverage in removing them. That's pretty difficult when clearing lob lolly pines that have a serious tap-root. Those tap-roots are like giant carrots that grow directly down into the soil and at various depths, the primary tap-root sprouts side roots to make them more stable in the ground.
lol well we've all been there starting out on our own with land clearing! I hear you man! Not fun by hand! Did you do the excavator rental? Hope you got some stuff done.
@@kapperoutdoors Nope, I didn't rent and I wish I did but decided to save the $3k+ to use towards a 22 foot tilt trailer. Man, the toys always seem to need more stuff to haul them around, LoL.
It would at least be worth a follow up on whether the Tak is derated or not. They have a solid rep and the advertised specs are way higher on the 260 than the E42. A 260 is supposed to be almost 13k bucket breakout vs 9600 for an E42. The E55 and 260 have nearly identical advertised arm force ratings.
This guy is clearly by us come on, the way hes The way he has maken this 260 look , it looks like it has less power than my Tb240, takeuchi should sue for slander, 260s are no joke and have tons of power
Kap, I have the TB260, a 2019 with 469hours on it, I can tell you right now, my Tb260 is a great all all around machine, and haven't had a problem yet. I stayed away from Bobcat, cause I always here of electrical problems.
Yeah I would have loved to try out this machine a lot newer, lol. I'm going to try to find out if they turned it down or not. I know tak makes a good line of machines. But I do love my bobcats they have been amazing. Made them things do some tasks that they probably were not meant to! Have a good one
I have a tb260 with 4,000 hrs on it...still strong machine. Its my favorite machine. I have a brand new 2023 50g and a 30g and by far the tak is a really good machine. Looking to buy a new tb260.
Hard to say for sure. A lot of excavators do rent them, and I'm not sure they'd be happy with a machine turned down? Could just be worn hydraulic pumps?
I get a kick out of how the bucket wiggles around on the pins. When I used to deliver septic tanks I had a customer with a John Deere 690. The pins in it where so bad the bucket flopped around 3 times as much as the Takeuchi. Always wondered when his bucket was going to fall off. :):) The good old days :)
Did you ask the Takeuchi dealer if the pressures were turned down? I've got a Volvo ec60e that so far I've removed about 2000 cherry trees, stump diameters 6-24" from my orchard. Got 1250hrs on it now and am totally impressed with its capabilities , control smoothness and cab comfort. It is also a conventional tail. Like your videos, keep em coming.
I bought a 23 bobcat e 42. I have yarded pine stumps 30 in. Dia. Took a little work but i pulled an carried 100 ft. Im on big rocky ledge in maine. My dealer said with the short arm it will out pull the e 50. Thats why i bought it.... By far the best machine a novice operator could ever own
Awesome! These bobcats are incredible machines! Amazing the power once you learn some technique and leverage! nice work man! If you have any vids posted shoot me an email or message! kapper@kapperoutdoors.com
Just sitting in the cab with you, (on video), the Tak was noticeably louder and that whine would get old quickly! The Bobcat was hands down quieter! As far as the digging power, the operator would have to judge that, but as others have said, i'm sure the power has been derated on the rental!
We did a side by side with a Bobcat E20 vs aTak TB 216 and an E55 vs a TB260. Both size Bobcat's easily beat out the Tak's, comfort, power, smoothness, stability etc. Went with Bobcat (looking at a fourth Bobcat soon). Deal support is the same so that wasn't the issue, everybody including myself just liked the Bobcat's a lot more. Thank you Kapper for the video!
The taku looks like it used to be a rental and I know rental companies turn the power input down on the valves so the unit doesn’t get beat up by renters..
I was a mechanic for a rental firm for years ,we set all the machines on min psi output for longevity .Takeuchi makes one of the best trac loaders and mini excavators in the business .
Joe could there be a power setting you might be missing in the green machine how many hours on it? Cup holder and ac? ❤️. Seems like 3000 pounds more, would be a powerhouse is the engine bigger than the BOBCAT E42r I be the one to bit, what’s the E42r stand for? And finally price. Just wondering if comparing apples to apples. My first mower was a Allis Chambers 10 HP and it was built like a tank, it mow down anything this new 25 HP zero turn would, but it was geared so low it was a pulling powerful machine and not a speed machine. Just thoughts. Heck first comment lol
As far as I know there is/was not a power setting for the hydo pumps, i.e. dig force. I know bobcat does not have that and they have about every option under the sun. Although skid steers do have a lot of adjustments like that. All I know for sure is I like the new bobcat, no doubt on that one :) Thanks.
We just rented another one and felt the same way and it was brand new 88 horse, 20k machine. There's some good reasons that bobcats are number one and they have the best specs for that size machine. Thanks
This was a few years ago, I don't recall what the issue was. This time we rented a Komatsu PC88 and it has been working great. If you haven't seen it yet that land project is ongoing at Kapper Outdoors 2.0. Thanks
I'm with you on the bobcat taking the prize. The two machines (Hoe and Loader) are designed to work to compliment each other and one leads the the other bats cleanup.
@@kapperoutdoors the takeuchi, I have tb257fr. I removed I pin , spun hydraulic cylinder 180 degrees. Now it works in same direction as my bobcat e50r2
I've never operated an excavator so I wouldn't be able to tell the difference between the two, but I watched this video due to the thumbnail. So you can tell Curtis that he's clickbait...
Obvious this guy has a thing against Takeuchi. Bobcat has a terrible reputation for their mini x lineup over the years, while Takeuchi has a terrific reputation. Something is definitely fishy here, or it's just not making stock hydraulic pressure. There's not much that will out work a Takeuchi, and definitely not in the price range.
I've got nothing against takeuchi at all. And who says Bobcat has a terrible reputation?? You do know that they actually created the skid steer right, and their R&D is light years ahead of the pack? We're just having fun and calling it like we see it. I will try to find out if the tak was turned down.
@@kapperoutdoors You know Takeuchi created the mini excavator right? And no, bobcat is nowhere near the front of the pack, let alone ahead. They're just ho hum. Gotta get seat time in other machines. I think bobcats newer mini X's are okay, but the older ones were hot garbage. Their newer skidsteers however are nowhere close to Takeuchi. Just depends on what you want I guess. I want bulletproof machines that work hard, not dealership queens.
We run many E32 and E42 at work and a can guarantee they are far from junk. We also rent a lot of other brands and our operators are always sour sitting in someone else’s seat! You obviously have something against bobcat🙄
Hey there Kap & Curtis. Good seeing you guys going at it in the Illinois soil. I would have enjoyed having either of those nice excavators to clear the tiny micro plot I attempted to clear several years ago by hand. I do know one thing, I will no longer cut trees off at the base without leaving a considerable amount of tree to use as a leverage in removing them. That's pretty difficult when clearing lob lolly pines that have a serious tap-root. Those tap-roots are like giant carrots that grow directly down into the soil and at various depths, the primary tap-root sprouts side roots to make them more stable in the ground.
lol well we've all been there starting out on our own with land clearing! I hear you man! Not fun by hand! Did you do the excavator rental? Hope you got some stuff done.
@@kapperoutdoors Nope, I didn't rent and I wish I did but decided to save the $3k+ to use towards a 22 foot tilt trailer. Man, the toys always seem to need more stuff to haul them around, LoL.
It would at least be worth a follow up on whether the Tak is derated or not. They have a solid rep and the advertised specs are way higher on the 260 than the E42. A 260 is supposed to be almost 13k bucket breakout vs 9600 for an E42. The E55 and 260 have nearly identical advertised arm force ratings.
I'll try to do that thanks. I know they are solid machines
This guy is clearly by us come on, the way hes The way he has maken this 260 look , it looks like it has less power than my Tb240, takeuchi should sue for slander, 260s are no joke and have tons of power
It’s looking great. Nice work and thanks for sharing this with us take care
Kap, I have the TB260, a 2019 with 469hours on it, I can tell you right now, my Tb260 is a great all all around machine, and haven't had a problem yet. I stayed away from Bobcat, cause I always here of electrical problems.
Yeah I would have loved to try out this machine a lot newer, lol. I'm going to try to find out if they turned it down or not. I know tak makes a good line of machines. But I do love my bobcats they have been amazing. Made them things do some tasks that they probably were not meant to! Have a good one
I have a tb260 with 4,000 hrs on it...still strong machine. Its my favorite machine. I have a brand new 2023 50g and a 30g and by far the tak is a really good machine. Looking to buy a new tb260.
You do know they turn down the hydraulic pressure on rentals. People abuse the $hit out of them. Its easy to see that one is trashed.
Hard to say for sure. A lot of excavators do rent them, and I'm not sure they'd be happy with a machine turned down? Could just be worn hydraulic pumps?
False. No bobcat rental machine is tuned down anyways. Don’t see any other manufacturer tuning them down…
I get a kick out of how the bucket wiggles around on the pins. When I used to deliver septic tanks I had a customer with a John Deere 690. The pins in it where so bad the bucket flopped around 3 times as much as the Takeuchi. Always wondered when his bucket was going to fall off. :):) The good old days :)
lol I'm not sure I'd have wanted to lift anything heavy with a bucket that loose!! Cheers
Did you ask the Takeuchi dealer if the pressures were turned down? I've got a Volvo ec60e that so far I've removed about 2000 cherry trees, stump diameters 6-24" from my orchard. Got 1250hrs on it now and am totally impressed with its capabilities , control smoothness and cab comfort. It is also a conventional tail. Like your videos, keep em coming.
I have not but I hope to do a follow up to ask them if they did turn it down. Thanks. That conventional tail makes a big difference
I bought a 23 bobcat e 42.
I have yarded pine stumps 30 in. Dia. Took a little work but i pulled an carried 100 ft. Im on big rocky ledge in maine. My dealer said with the short arm it will out pull the e 50. Thats why i bought it....
By far the best machine a novice operator could ever own
Awesome! These bobcats are incredible machines! Amazing the power once you learn some technique and leverage! nice work man! If you have any vids posted shoot me an email or message! kapper@kapperoutdoors.com
Can't you switch the hoses on the thumb, so it works the other way, like you like it?
Is there more than one "h" in "Takeuchi"?
Just sitting in the cab with you, (on video), the Tak was noticeably louder and that whine would get old quickly! The Bobcat was hands down quieter! As far as the digging power, the operator would have to judge that, but as others have said, i'm sure the power has been derated on the rental!
I hope to find out if they turned it down or not. But I have to say bobcat has very impressive specs and dig force. Thanks.
We did a side by side with a Bobcat E20 vs aTak TB 216 and an E55 vs a TB260. Both size Bobcat's easily beat out the Tak's, comfort, power, smoothness, stability etc. Went with Bobcat (looking at a fourth Bobcat soon). Deal support is the same so that wasn't the issue, everybody including myself just liked the Bobcat's a lot more. Thank you Kapper for the video!
Awesome I appreciate it thank you
@@kapperoutdoors You're Welcome!
In your element of work, work, work....stay safe, be careful, take it easy and keep dry.
The taku looks like it used to be a rental and I know rental companies turn the power input down on the valves so the unit doesn’t get beat up by renters..
yeah a few people have said the same, so it is hard to tell! Either way, we try to have fun while getting work done and paying some bills! Thanks man
@@kapperoutdoors how’s the speed on that e42?
Change the lines on the valve assembly to suit you. Or the electric switches.??
yeah I'm guessing that tak has seen it's better days and could be spruced back up on power.
I was leaning toward a Takeuchi if I got an excavator, but maybe now I'll have to change my mind lol!
lol you know my favorite!!
Speaking of Curtis what happened with the 8 acres rehab.
Update on it coming soon
For a rental, turned down to minimum for longevity and an inexperienced operator
I was a mechanic for a rental firm for years ,we set all the machines on min psi output for longevity .Takeuchi makes one of the best trac loaders and mini excavators in the business .
Joe could there be a power setting you might be missing in the green machine how many hours on it? Cup holder and ac? ❤️. Seems like 3000 pounds more, would be a powerhouse is the engine bigger than the BOBCAT E42r
I be the one to bit, what’s the E42r stand for? And finally price. Just wondering if comparing apples to apples.
My first mower was a Allis Chambers 10 HP and it was built like a tank, it mow down anything this new 25 HP zero turn would, but it was geared so low it was a pulling powerful machine and not a speed machine. Just thoughts.
Heck first comment lol
As far as I know there is/was not a power setting for the hydo pumps, i.e. dig force. I know bobcat does not have that and they have about every option under the sun. Although skid steers do have a lot of adjustments like that. All I know for sure is I like the new bobcat, no doubt on that one :) Thanks.
I rented a e50 for 4months then a tb260 after that. The tb260 had much more power. Not sure whats going on in the video.
We just rented another one and felt the same way and it was brand new 88 horse, 20k machine. There's some good reasons that bobcats are number one and they have the best specs for that size machine. Thanks
im impressed
You can take the ram on the thumb and turn it 180 and hook the lines back up. I did it to solve that issue
This was a few years ago, I don't recall what the issue was. This time we rented a Komatsu PC88 and it has been working great. If you haven't seen it yet that land project is ongoing at Kapper Outdoors 2.0. Thanks
The 42 is a beast of a mini. Great numbers for its size.
Yep no doubt about that! That is precisely why I chose it! Good call, thanks have a good one
Both machines did a good amount of work for u an that's what matters in the short term u got it done 🙄💪💪👍
yes no doubt! Thanks
Some hire companys turn the RPM down in the UK and have heard some machines the pressure down too
I'm with you on the bobcat taking the prize. The two machines (Hoe and Loader) are designed to work to compliment each other and one leads the the other bats cleanup.
Baseball with the bobcats!!
Apples and oranges. A new Tak that had not been turned down by a rental dealer would have entirely changed your mind.
You sure might be right. I've been meaning to call to find out if they actually turned it down or not. Plus, obviously it has a lot of use too!
They installed thumb piston incorrectly, just take out 1 pin turn it 180 degrees reinstall hydraulic lines .
Which machine are you referring to? Thanks
@@kapperoutdoors the takeuchi, I have tb257fr. I removed I pin , spun hydraulic cylinder 180 degrees. Now it works in same direction as my bobcat e50r2
I do like the Bobcat the best
I've never operated an excavator so I wouldn't be able to tell the difference between the two, but I watched this video due to the thumbnail. So you can tell Curtis that he's clickbait...
ha ha good deal! Hey, what ever draws in millions of views!! Oh wait... at least we got hundreds!! lol
Even if they turned it down, because it is bigger it should at least feel the same power wise as a smaller machine.
That is a good point. I hope to find out if they did. It might just be worn, pumps slowing down from lots of abuse too..?
If I was you I wouldn’t trade your machine off to Curtis. Just saying yours looks a lot better even on video
lol I took one for the team!!
midi's not mini's but eh.
My 260 is not green lol and it’s way stronger
Obvious this guy has a thing against Takeuchi. Bobcat has a terrible reputation for their mini x lineup over the years, while Takeuchi has a terrific reputation. Something is definitely fishy here, or it's just not making stock hydraulic pressure. There's not much that will out work a Takeuchi, and definitely not in the price range.
I've got nothing against takeuchi at all. And who says Bobcat has a terrible reputation?? You do know that they actually created the skid steer right, and their R&D is light years ahead of the pack? We're just having fun and calling it like we see it. I will try to find out if the tak was turned down.
@@kapperoutdoors You know Takeuchi created the mini excavator right? And no, bobcat is nowhere near the front of the pack, let alone ahead. They're just ho hum. Gotta get seat time in other machines. I think bobcats newer mini X's are okay, but the older ones were hot garbage. Their newer skidsteers however are nowhere close to Takeuchi. Just depends on what you want I guess. I want bulletproof machines that work hard, not dealership queens.
@@davidstinson3830 that's the great thing about America. At least it was... We are free to have our own experiences and make our own decisions. Thanks
We run many E32 and E42 at work and a can guarantee they are far from junk. We also rent a lot of other brands and our operators are always sour sitting in someone else’s seat!
You obviously have something against bobcat🙄
I switched over to b42. Couldn't be happier.