The risky path just looks risky but its not. Just overtake slightly enough to block them before entering the turn, that way you can drive in safe speed. Do this in slow speed turn only to easy get pass the car in front.
Yeah and render distance ain't trash unlike most games, that's why it's hard to tell. Even I didn't notice that it was a game until I read the comments
Find things that are uncanny. Find oddities in details, especially in the ways in which objects move. Look at objects far away and see if the level of details makes sense for something with that distance. When all else fails, look at the crowd of spectators.
@@ThBlueSalamander Just seems a bit cheeky to plant my car in the middle and basically offer no option to the car behind who's looking to overtake. I am talking more when the track isn't as wide as this example. Just seems a bit like I'm blocking rather than defending.
@@thetiredoldtiger4711 I think in racing it doesn't matter what you do as long as you give enough space to opponents so as to prevent collision and not intentionally cause you or someone to spin.
Until you remember you playing GT7 and the car behind you has E rating of sportmanship, and the next thing you see is both of u on the gravel on places 15 and 16 out of 16 drivers.
I learned this defensive technique over time and from many incidents. I've learned that if you can defend properly. It stops most drivers from trying to send it on you. If you're getting wiped out constantly. Yeh, the attacking car is in the wrong. However, are you as the depending driver. Defending properly? What this guy is basically saying. If you know how to defend properly. It can actually prevent many incidents. If you're battling somebody who's good at defending. You then need to throw them off with fake sends etc. Forcing them to make a mistake. Its great having lengthy and clean battles like this with other drivers. Who know race craft and ultimately know how to race.
Here's another thing. Don't defend if they can't overtake. To many people make the mistake of defending thin air. If they're too far away from you to make an overtake defending will just result in you being slower and giving them a bigger chance of overtaking in the next corner.
@@eddierare i'd say more than a car length of space is too far, if someone tries to get alongside from 2-3 car length back they are probably not making the corner in most series
A trap that many attacking drivers fall into when faced with this defensive move is trying to brave it around the outside, backing out and ultimately ruining their exit. The same goes for the defending driver, they need to nail their braking point or they'll be vulnerable on exit, the beautiful psychology of racing.
assetto corsa amateur racing, defending is curse.. we will end up someone rear ending us in hard corner. small touch while trail breaking can throw you out of track.. thanks for tip, ill implement this see if it works.
I'm a big fan of racing games and cars in general. As much as I like blowing past all of the competition and holding on to first place without a care in the world other than trying to get a better lap time, some of the most fun I can have on a racetrack in any game is trying to vigorously defend my first place spot from somebody that's right under my rear wing, just a fraction of a second behind me.
Moving on the middle gives you an option to also make the overtaking driver slow down whenever you brake and if he pull the move he can go deep and take the position back
I kinda learned this instinctively. I didn't want them to push me on either edge, so I decided to go in the middle, let them choose a side, and then try to push them either to the very inside or towards the outside kerbs.
If you try and "push" them to the inside you are at fault and can be protested for blocking. That's why you stay on the inside and try and push them to the outside since this isn't blocking as all you are doing is opening the corner for yourself. Moving to the inside when in or close to the braking zone is really dangerous. If they go to the inside you are better of letting them and instead quickly going to the outside to concentrate on your exit. Trust me. You will get into a lot less accidents doing that.
Yea I think we all do, it's instinctive. It's disruptive without demolishing your own pace. If they really want it, or have a really good run, they'll still divebomb, and you can probably just take the position back with your better speed the next corner - unless he's better or his tires are better in which case it's all academic anyways
I’m 13 man but I’ve done that risky overtake a lot in a gt3 race in assetto I got every single one of those overtakes clean and went from 10 to 2 but 1st place was gone😂 keep the tips your helping me and your fans a lot❤
Thank you this tactic really helped me, I tried it on Real racing 3 mobile, first, I really thought that it won't work but, real racing 3 have the same features and physiques so yeah, now I can drive better.
well this is perfect.. Me and my coworker have karting battles and as a lead i usualy loose a lead because i drive on racing line and he just agresive take the oportunity so i only have option to move or crash.. thank you
@@sebastjan8241 that's also because most karting tracks (especially rental) are really twisty and turny and also very narrow so they don't allow for any side by side action.
Yup, too many people don't plan one or two corners ahead. Getting or staying in front in one corner is good, but not if it costs you position or speed for the next corner or next corner after that depending on how close they are. All you're doing is delaying the inevitable. Maintaining exit speed is as crucial as your entry speed and position. Take away their line and speed but not at the cost of your line and speed.
Driving down the middle is silly. You essentially do neither. Defend or get a good exit yourself. What you did here was crucially move to the middle after the car behind choose to go to the outside. This kept the line to the inside blocked while allowing you to squeeze and open the corner. I'm not sure if that was intentional or just a consequence of this sequence of corners but it's how you do it.
This is pretty common knowledge. Everybody on the platform should know this already. Also, there is a third choice the trailing driver could make. And that is to just run you over, which a lot of people do. Generally speaking, if you can't outpace them, it might be better to just let them go.
I wouldn't say I'm a particularly skilled driver, but I didn't know this was a technique in fact I assumed I was being too aggressive when I did that so most of the time I just let them pass
Just don’t weave, react to their move, or make your move dangerously late and it’s good, hard racing. You get to make one defensive move per corner, and if you get it wrong, shut up and deal with it.
I'd have went for the inside to try to take the pass and slam into the defender during the upcoming turn. Not sure what the driving physics are in this. Last racer I really played was Burnout Revenge XD.
9/10 times I do this someone completely sends it up the inside, overshoots, either blocks me or it allows the car behind them to pass. Or what the person did to me 2 days ago, they go the outside, come along side, move across into me and spin me outwards away from the corner.
Depends what I’m playing, iRacing acc I’ll be safe or defending but forza or gt 7 like to full send late break or if defending forget its racing drift the next corner- never let them know your next move 😂
Let’s be real here. We all know a sim racer is going to fight that corner (ANY corner) to the absolute death, with zero regard for the safety or well being of anyone or anything in that moment. Been doing this way too long to believe otherwise.
so you don't just use the car in front as a brake to overtake? but seriously tho this is very good advice, just remember "ALL THE TIME YOU HAVE TO LEAVE A SPACE" - fernando alonso
But it's not a really easy thing to do. Driving in the middle isn't clearly an optimal line, meaning you are losing time, making it harder for you to catch up to your next pos. Also braking correctly is an absolute must for defending like this.
So Vax Merstappen was correctly defending at Austria by staying in the middle and not letting Nando Loris pass from both the inside and the outside?? 😅😅
Kidding aside though, It is genuinely two different scenarios. The difference with Super Max Max's move was that he moved under braking to squeeze Norris while DanMan followed his line smoothly.
The people that do the divebomb probably have never touched that part of the track in their lives and if you break really late they will break way to late
Game (simulator) is iRacing
Those graphics are good. I didn't even notice until you pointed it out. Now I feel silly how obvious it is.
Are we getting these graphics in gta6?
I actually thought this was irl. What an insane graphics
Wait wasn't that real!?
The risky path just looks risky but its not. Just overtake slightly enough to block them before entering the turn, that way you can drive in safe speed. Do this in slow speed turn only to easy get pass the car in front.
Never underestimate the power of just driving in the middle of the track
That's exactly how to defend in karts, especially on indoor tracks 😅
@@jamesmiller7712Thx for the tip! Now I can destroy my gf tomorrow 😂
haha this always works. don't let them know if you're going to the inside or the outside (because ur not doing either)
And never underestimate how willing people are to throw your and their race in the bin
@@solar_ignitionok, but outrun them
I literally thought it was real life at first, those graphics are cleeeannnn
The sky is what made me figure it out
The graphics are quite good
wait, it's a game????
FR
I still think it's real
"life to fight another corner" is such a good line
Yeah, I was just about to comment this 😄
Live not life
@@michaczarnocki181 u gonna fight or not
Before I read the comments, I thought this was a real race... Graphics are getting so good these days
Same bro 😂 first i rought it's real life
No offense but any gamer can instantly tell
Yeah and render distance ain't trash unlike most games, that's why it's hard to tell. Even I didn't notice that it was a game until I read the comments
@@toastisity Nope i thought it real too, with the same screen
Find things that are uncanny. Find oddities in details, especially in the ways in which objects move. Look at objects far away and see if the level of details makes sense for something with that distance. When all else fails, look at the crowd of spectators.
And I thought I was being unsportsmanlike by putting my car right in the middle of the track when defending. Good to know I'm not.
How enjoyable exposure driving behind one psychopath🤔
Google search :
PSYCHOPATH
What makes you think that could be?
@@ThBlueSalamander Just seems a bit cheeky to plant my car in the middle and basically offer no option to the car behind who's looking to overtake. I am talking more when the track isn't as wide as this example. Just seems a bit like I'm blocking rather than defending.
Drivers in real life do it all the time, you’re not bro
@@thetiredoldtiger4711 I think in racing it doesn't matter what you do as long as you give enough space to opponents so as to prevent collision and not intentionally cause you or someone to spin.
Until you remember you playing GT7 and the car behind you has E rating of sportmanship, and the next thing you see is both of u on the gravel on places 15 and 16 out of 16 drivers.
Real af
Give up playing with GT years ago.
Kiddie crashers NO THANKS..
lmao
Why did i tought this is real 😭
I learned this defensive technique over time and from many incidents. I've learned that if you can defend properly. It stops most drivers from trying to send it on you. If you're getting wiped out constantly. Yeh, the attacking car is in the wrong. However, are you as the depending driver. Defending properly? What this guy is basically saying. If you know how to defend properly. It can actually prevent many incidents.
If you're battling somebody who's good at defending. You then need to throw them off with fake sends etc. Forcing them to make a mistake. Its great having lengthy and clean battles like this with other drivers. Who know race craft and ultimately know how to race.
Here's another thing. Don't defend if they can't overtake. To many people make the mistake of defending thin air. If they're too far away from you to make an overtake defending will just result in you being slower and giving them a bigger chance of overtaking in the next corner.
How far away would you define as too far?
@@eddierare like they can't benefit from aspiration
@@eddierare i'd say more than a car length of space is too far, if someone tries to get alongside from 2-3 car length back they are probably not making the corner in most series
@@polariaosu makes sense thanks!
See Fisichella Suzuka 2005 for a good example!
A trap that many attacking drivers fall into when faced with this defensive move is trying to brave it around the outside, backing out and ultimately ruining their exit. The same goes for the defending driver, they need to nail their braking point or they'll be vulnerable on exit, the beautiful psychology of racing.
From what I know of my driving, I'd probably get hyper focused on the defensive car and not the corner, absolutely flubbing the brake point...
The most OP strategy - flashing your brake lights early
This single short has completely changed how I view racing.
Thanks I'll use it when going to work today
Driving in the middle isnt always the best move, but if ur getting gained on a straight, this is a super good move.
assetto corsa amateur racing, defending is curse.. we will end up someone rear ending us in hard corner. small touch while trail breaking can throw you out of track.. thanks for tip, ill implement this see if it works.
Good point, everyone need to be intelligent and actively trying not to cause accidents and loss of control.
I put this to the ultimate test in my league race just a little bit ago and it worked like a charm. Never underestimate the power of the middle
I'm a big fan of racing games and cars in general. As much as I like blowing past all of the competition and holding on to first place without a care in the world other than trying to get a better lap time, some of the most fun I can have on a racetrack in any game is trying to vigorously defend my first place spot from somebody that's right under my rear wing, just a fraction of a second behind me.
Moving on the middle gives you an option to also make the overtaking driver slow down whenever you brake and if he pull the move he can go deep and take the position back
Charles Leclerc has this style, I am a big fan of that style of defending, props to you for making it very ez to understand
I kinda learned this instinctively. I didn't want them to push me on either edge, so I decided to go in the middle, let them choose a side, and then try to push them either to the very inside or towards the outside kerbs.
If you try and "push" them to the inside you are at fault and can be protested for blocking. That's why you stay on the inside and try and push them to the outside since this isn't blocking as all you are doing is opening the corner for yourself. Moving to the inside when in or close to the braking zone is really dangerous. If they go to the inside you are better of letting them and instead quickly going to the outside to concentrate on your exit. Trust me. You will get into a lot less accidents doing that.
Ive never seen iRacing look this good
My opponent watching this: 👀
Write that down, write that down
Dude trust me this trick works so good
It confuses the driver behind and its a really good defence to counter
Somehow I’ve been doing this and not even known it was a defensive manoeuvre
Yea I think we all do, it's instinctive. It's disruptive without demolishing your own pace. If they really want it, or have a really good run, they'll still divebomb, and you can probably just take the position back with your better speed the next corner - unless he's better or his tires are better in which case it's all academic anyways
I’m 13 man but I’ve done that risky overtake a lot in a gt3 race in assetto I got every single one of those overtakes clean and went from 10 to 2 but 1st place was gone😂 keep the tips your helping me and your fans a lot❤
Man’s out here playing irl simulator
in my experience of online racing, "Most" will take the inside line, use me to brake whilst ramming me off the track.
Thank you this tactic really helped me, I tried it on Real racing 3 mobile, first, I really thought that it won't work but, real racing 3 have the same features and physiques so yeah, now I can drive better.
Awesome. I do this on a regular road and drive on the line, the cars behind me are always pissed. Not my fault they lack skill
Oh damn I didn’t know I will be definitely be using that technique now
Nice demonstration
well this is perfect.. Me and my coworker have karting battles and as a lead i usualy loose a lead because i drive on racing line and he just agresive take the oportunity so i only have option to move or crash..
thank you
@@sebastjan8241 that's also because most karting tracks (especially rental) are really twisty and turny and also very narrow so they don't allow for any side by side action.
Yup, too many people don't plan one or two corners ahead. Getting or staying in front in one corner is good, but not if it costs you position or speed for the next corner or next corner after that depending on how close they are. All you're doing is delaying the inevitable.
Maintaining exit speed is as crucial as your entry speed and position. Take away their line and speed but not at the cost of your line and speed.
Every single device is very useful in any race simulator game. It s useful in mobile race game also
Driving down the middle is silly. You essentially do neither. Defend or get a good exit yourself. What you did here was crucially move to the middle after the car behind choose to go to the outside. This kept the line to the inside blocked while allowing you to squeeze and open the corner. I'm not sure if that was intentional or just a consequence of this sequence of corners but it's how you do it.
Well explained
This is pretty common knowledge. Everybody on the platform should know this already. Also, there is a third choice the trailing driver could make. And that is to just run you over, which a lot of people do. Generally speaking, if you can't outpace them, it might be better to just let them go.
Nice and clean driving and if someone overtakes you its ok that's racing
make wide car take up whole track, win
Man this Porsche GT car looks great. Is it a gt3 cup?
good to know, thanks
Very nice, ty 👍💯
I recon Max should take note here.
i understand my grandparents now
Some guy got mad at me and said i was “blocking” for just staying at the middle of the track 😭😭😂😂
nice explanation.
wow graphics have gotten much better
Defending being in GT7 just gets you punted off track lmao
i once defended 1 guy for 15 min straight and in the last lap he did a dive bomb and took us both out
For clean racers. I’ve only got GT7 and it’s 50/50 clean or the wild wild west
This is what nfs shift taught me
My mind when racing: Race is race just drive
2024 and still looking real
What everybody should know when they race in granturismo
I thought it was in real life😮😮😮
I wouldn't say I'm a particularly skilled driver, but I didn't know this was a technique in fact I assumed I was being too aggressive when I did that so most of the time I just let them pass
Just don’t weave, react to their move, or make your move dangerously late and it’s good, hard racing. You get to make one defensive move per corner, and if you get it wrong, shut up and deal with it.
Did exactly that 2 days ago. 😊
I'd have went for the inside to try to take the pass and slam into the defender during the upcoming turn. Not sure what the driving physics are in this. Last racer I really played was Burnout Revenge XD.
9/10 times I do this someone completely sends it up the inside, overshoots, either blocks me or it allows the car behind them to pass.
Or what the person did to me 2 days ago, they go the outside, come along side, move across into me and spin me outwards away from the corner.
I do this, but while driving in the passing lane 😏
Damn I thought this was real life, even after watching 3 times
What about in the straight, with slipstreaming, can you defend that
And the follower thinking that you are missing your apex.😅
basically you simply try your best to be in the way
Didn't notice the audience and thought this was a test race
max will definitely choose the riskier line, case in point Hungary 2024
I believe this is often referred to as "making yourself big".
*DaBaRu CrAsHu IkOzE!*
Racing is faster and more focused form of normal traffic turn.
max will just throw a divebomb to that
Depends what I’m playing, iRacing acc I’ll be safe or defending but forza or gt 7 like to full send late break or if defending forget its racing drift the next corner- never let them know your next move 😂
Let’s be real here. We all know a sim racer is going to fight that corner (ANY corner) to the absolute death, with zero regard for the safety or well being of anyone or anything in that moment. Been doing this way too long to believe otherwise.
so you don't just use the car in front as a brake to overtake?
but seriously tho this is very good advice, just remember "ALL THE TIME YOU HAVE TO LEAVE A SPACE" - fernando alonso
Who says you cant use the car in front as brakes
I tought this was real life😂
Okay, ill be ballsy
The you get a wild Verstappen fanboy who bins your race
*Me cassually defending like Estie Bestie*
I thought it was real life at first💀
But it's not a really easy thing to do. Driving in the middle isn't clearly an optimal line, meaning you are losing time, making it harder for you to catch up to your next pos. Also braking correctly is an absolute must for defending like this.
i'm somewhat new to gt racing sims, why do people just flash their light at me when approaching from behind? (not being lapped, fighting for position)
I'm coming for you.
So basically, just drive down the middle like a one way road.
This is gold
So Vax Merstappen was correctly defending at Austria by staying in the middle and not letting Nando Loris pass from both the inside and the outside?? 😅😅
yes.
it became unfair after MV started to move under braking. but up until then it was fine
Kidding aside though, It is genuinely two different scenarios. The difference with Super Max Max's move was that he moved under braking to squeeze Norris while DanMan followed his line smoothly.
@@umzenapista Yea but the FiA dropped the rule in 2017 season eventhough it was dangerous
Meanwhile in Forza Motorsport people just turn into you like you don't exist and overtake you anyway
The people that do the divebomb probably have never touched that part of the track in their lives and if you break really late they will break way to late
I don't knew this technique
a guy did this to me lap after lap on vir i lost my mind
Would this work in an f1 race?
Remeber you have one defensive move . Not unlimited weaving
Nice
Me watching this after watching a Mario kart video:
Bro, i thought it's real life
I thought it was full send through corners and end some lives on the way
Max Verstappen: “Wow. This is worthless.”
GT7 = "nah I'll just throw it down the inside, use you as brakes and push you off the track"
I want to know his PC SPECS!
dont do this to anyone below B license or in lower split races in iracing because they'll just divebomb you inside anyways
Or you can do a Verstappen. Moving twice or thrice in the breaking zone. 😄
He jerks the car to the side before he brakes, it's ethically questionable, but it's within the rules.
but its okay by the rules