Rockstar BLAMES Steam Deck!

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  • Опубліковано 25 лис 2024

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  • @FanTheDeck
    @FanTheDeck  2 місяці тому +309

    Rockstar and Acer are both running the Any% for annoying Deck owners. Who won this week?

    • @snowythecolaaddict
      @snowythecolaaddict 2 місяці тому +52

      Rockstar. Cheaters aren't a reasonable excuse to stop normal players from playing a game they spent money on.

    • @TheHippo-or5wi
      @TheHippo-or5wi 2 місяці тому

      @@snowythecolaaddict well i watched my friend. online was after 1day infested with cheaters. xD

    • @Nik.leonard
      @Nik.leonard 2 місяці тому +14

      Sony with their mandatory PSN account BS.

    • @zanzabar4ky7
      @zanzabar4ky7 2 місяці тому +27

      I still cannot believe rockstar don't don't quickly call up battle eye and get the proton flag flipped. I get them not advertising a walk back, but going after valve seems like a bad idea. Steam is responsible for like 70% of rockstar's earnings. You would think they would be a higher priority.

    • @LagiohX3
      @LagiohX3 2 місяці тому +2

      ​@@snowythecolaaddictSomething tells me gta6 will be a epic exclusive for a while or they are gonna sell it on their own launcher.

  • @TravisAdamson-d9q
    @TravisAdamson-d9q 2 місяці тому +915

    Even though Rockstar has said that people should contact Valve about their games running on the Steam Deck, everyone should simply continue to spam Rockstar about the issue so they know full well what their stupid decision making results are.

    • @Pikminiman
      @Pikminiman 2 місяці тому +174

      It's definitely Rockstar's fault. The DRM they're using does indeed support Linux. Rockstar has simply chosen the asshole option.

    • @doublevendetta
      @doublevendetta 2 місяці тому +69

      ​@@Pikminiman The worst part is all they have to do is CONTACT BATTLEEYE, and they would do a good chunk of the heavy lifting for them.

    • @HaveYouTriedGuillotines
      @HaveYouTriedGuillotines 2 місяці тому +40

      Valve should just ban Rockstar games from Steam.

    • @Toastieee
      @Toastieee 2 місяці тому

      @@doublevendetta all that rockstar needs to do is this:
      "Dear BattleEye,
      Please enable Linux Compatibility on our product GTA V
      Thank you, Rockstar Games."

    • @rcash3625
      @rcash3625 2 місяці тому +5

      Or not since the game was released 11 years ago… I’m more interested in will they support it with gta 6? GTA 5 is a fkn dinosaur I’m surprised people still play it tbh

  • @alcha93
    @alcha93 2 місяці тому +899

    Valves customer service is so good, they're going to support competitors.

    • @soundspark
      @soundspark 2 місяці тому +17

      They aren't issuing refunds to everyone.

    • @WakoDoodle
      @WakoDoodle 2 місяці тому +26

      yeah, come on rockstar! Give us refunds!
      Valve does, why don't you?!

    • @coinopanimator
      @coinopanimator 2 місяці тому +2

      Or they're going to go ARM, switch style.

    • @soundspark
      @soundspark 2 місяці тому +8

      @WakoDoodle Rockstar never advertised the game for Linux so they probably avoid all liability, even though it is dead simple for them to get it set up for Proton compatibility.
      That said, wonder if it has made some Deck users install Windows?

    • @tristanjones9136
      @tristanjones9136 2 місяці тому +2

      Valve ain’t giving me my refund

  • @Paradigmfusion
    @Paradigmfusion 2 місяці тому +564

    Rockstars fault for not checking "Linux Support" box for BattlEye, All of the anticheats support Linux, its up to the dev to enable it.

    • @noticiasinmundicias
      @noticiasinmundicias 2 місяці тому +3

      Not Valorant though... I wish it did.

    • @fall1n1_yt
      @fall1n1_yt 2 місяці тому +82

      @@noticiasinmundicias because it's a kernel level anticheat specfically designed for the NT kernel.

    • @xXlURMOMlXx
      @xXlURMOMlXx 2 місяці тому +6

      It's not that simple lol

    • @Tracenji
      @Tracenji 2 місяці тому +46

      @@xXlURMOMlXx and how would you know?
      have you made a game which has battleye in the last few years?

    • @bigload6
      @bigload6 2 місяці тому +3

      ​@@Tracenji cause it isn't that simple. 😂

  • @cassieudy5718
    @cassieudy5718 2 місяці тому +197

    The Acer guy is probably correct. PC handhelds must be priced so aggressively to compete with the Deck, that the resulting profit margins are probably not worth the cost and risks associated with production. Valve makes their money selling games, not hardware. Hardware companies will never compete with them, at least on price.
    This is precisely why I want a Steam Console so badly. Valve can make a device priced and spec'd similarly to gaming consoles, but with the massive benefit of SteamOS. Gaming mode replaces your living room console, desktop mode replaces your PC. I already do this with a docked Steam Deck and the experience has been very good. It's time for Steam Machine 2.0

    • @RadikAlice
      @RadikAlice 2 місяці тому +26

      It's funny looking back. Steam Machines weren't bad, just too soon and basically dependent on "pls port ur game"
      You could probably pick one up for cheap, install some distro like Chimera or Bazzite and do to it what regular Linux does for old Windows devices

    • @ryuno2097
      @ryuno2097 2 місяці тому +18

      If Valve makes Steam Machine 2.0, they should be the only ones making the console not how they did for the 1.0 version. With so many vendors making their own Steam Machine with various specs, it's no surprise why it failed.

    • @GraveUypo
      @GraveUypo 2 місяці тому +3

      i don't care for a steam console, but man with today's market that would be the best console. xbox and ps are in the dumps.

    • @cassieudy5718
      @cassieudy5718 2 місяці тому +13

      @@ryuno2097 100% agree. I thought it was insane they chose to go the third-party route with the original Steam Machine. First party, standardized hardware support from Valve is mandatory. I don't want to be dealing with Dell/Alienware because my SteamOS device is malfunctioning.

    • @raspiankiado
      @raspiankiado 2 місяці тому +4

      WOW... IMAGINE!
      Games used to be what sold consoles... not the other way around!
      Steam is just operating correctly, like the industry was YEARS ago.
      But now, the Industry is f$cking BACKWARDS, and they're selling consoles, and 5 games.

  • @specialfred453
    @specialfred453 2 місяці тому +52

    Rockstar barely supports PC sometimes. Not supporting SteamDeck or Linux is pretty much par for the course with Rockstar

    • @garrettrinquest1605
      @garrettrinquest1605 2 місяці тому +4

      That doesn't mean we should be okay with it

    • @specialfred453
      @specialfred453 2 місяці тому +4

      @@garrettrinquest1605 We shouldn't be ok with it, but we also shouldn't be too surprised.

    • @REAL-UNKNOWN-SHINOBI
      @REAL-UNKNOWN-SHINOBI Місяць тому +2

      This makes me kind of afraid that GTA 6 won't actually release on PC ever.

    • @Ehh.....
      @Ehh..... Місяць тому

      @@REAL-UNKNOWN-SHINOBI You really shouldnt be.
      They still want the money out of us, its just prioritized under everyone/everything else.
      We'll probably have in in 2028.

    • @linkfreeman1998
      @linkfreeman1998 Місяць тому

      @@REAL-UNKNOWN-SHINOBI honestly screw that game. If its actually that good, then it is what it is. If not, well...good on me. I can save my attention to somewhere else.

  • @sjoervanderploeg4340
    @sjoervanderploeg4340 Місяць тому +21

    Rockstar is a DOGSHIT company for playing the "not supported" card, all they need to do is contact BattlEye and badda bing badda boom we can play GTA:O again.
    But no, they tell the user to contact Valve instead. That is just bad, sad and disgusting at the same time from a company this big.

  • @Dracossaint
    @Dracossaint 2 місяці тому +136

    Acer, giving up before they even started. As someone that worked on Acer laptops. Yeah I'm not surprised. I would describe their products as high margins for their build quality. I would expect them to have similar build qualities as a steam deck but at $1,000. Swear I'm not bitter 😂

    • @FanTheDeck
      @FanTheDeck  2 місяці тому +39

      That's the thing. If their competitive edge was we're going to be able to sell you a cheaper handheld than at least that's reasonable. But if you're telling me you're not gonna be innovative, you're not gonna be interesting, you're not gonna be particularly powerful, and you're not gonna win at price, then what is you doin bby?

    • @Dracossaint
      @Dracossaint 2 місяці тому

      I believe they have a domestic advantage here far as retail. But unsure if they do in the local territory far as supply goes. Id argue that advantage goes away completely in comparison to Asus's.
      Most people don't realize how huge asus as a brand is.
      I feel the steamdeck was a scape goat here to some degree.
      Acer has the money to do larger orders for sure, but they've always been the stay slightly behind and rebrand/retool company historically. Typically their strength is pricing in comparison to the others.
      A monitor example of this
      Acer x34 vbmiiphuzx
      Alienware aw3423dw
      They rarely reinvent the wheel.
      They just kind of come in and then have the perception that they're a semi-reliable brand that's a little cheaper than competitors. (Think great value) For the profit margin they would want, they likely couldn't justify ordering enough for a volume discount. Because it would have to be cheaper than the ally nore than likely to gain notoriety.
      but they can't say that part, because than their failing to compete with asus.
      Soooo they blame the newcomer

    • @Dracossaint
      @Dracossaint 2 місяці тому

      I believe they have a domestic advantage here as far as retail. But unsure if they do in the local territory as far as supply goes. I'd argue that advantage goes away completely in comparison to Asus's.
      Most people don't realize how huge asus as a brand is,I feel the steamdeck was a scapegoat here to some degree.
      Acer has the money to do larger orders for sure, but they've always been the stay slightly behind and rebrand/retool company historically. Typically their strength is pricing in comparison to the others. A monitor example of this
      Acer x34 vbmiiphuzx
      Alienware aw3423dw
      They rarely reinvent the wheel, They just kind of come in and then have the perception that they're a semi-reliable brand that's a little cheaper than competitors. (Think great value) For the profit margin they would want, they likely couldn't justify ordering enough units for a volume discount.
      Because it would have to be cheaper than the ally more than likely to gain notoriety, but they can't say that part, because they would be failing to compete with asus.
      Soooo they blame the newcomer, the one with an entombment lead and price advantage (30% cut and all that)

    • @Dracossaint
      @Dracossaint 2 місяці тому +1

      also see their tiny netbooks for a history of jumping into aq market

    • @Dracossaint
      @Dracossaint 2 місяці тому +10

      I've tried explaining things multiple times. UA-cam keeps deleting them... To simplify this quickly. The Steam deck is definitely a scapegoat and the real problem is the asus rog Ally, But they can't admit that.

  • @ArtyI
    @ArtyI 2 місяці тому +67

    I'm honestly pissed about the battleeye update. I have 2 GTA Online accounts and I would play one account on my steam deck while my cousin who does long distance trucking would come home every few weeks and would play with my alt on my main PC. Now I don't have a good way to play with him

    • @barrymchawkenhugh2696
      @barrymchawkenhugh2696 2 місяці тому +9

      It sucks you'd even have to do it at all but installing and dual booting windows is easy and free (with a watermark on the desktop is all). It's no excuse though, R* are being jerks for no reason.

    • @proxyhx2075
      @proxyhx2075 Місяць тому

      ​@@barrymchawkenhugh2696 There are windows activation tools that you can use in the command prompt.
      Really quick, easy and safe 👍

    • @thatoneannoyingtornadosire8755
      @thatoneannoyingtornadosire8755 12 днів тому

      @@barrymchawkenhugh2696 dual booting with windows has been very rocky lately, a lot of the time windows will bork your linux install if its on the same drive.
      some people may not have issues but a lot of others are

  • @TheHappyKamper
    @TheHappyKamper 2 місяці тому +111

    I'm in Australia and have already bought the OG and OLED Steam Decks, but that's because they were grey imports. Will be cool to have the Deck officially sold and supporting Australia finally.

    • @Thefess
      @Thefess 2 місяці тому

      Yeah, got mine on kogan. Paid out the ass for it but don't regret it one bit. Going to pax this year and hopefully people are able to get it here. Just wishing they had a steam booth last year and that they sold it there too.

    • @newbietricki239
      @newbietricki239 2 місяці тому +8

      I just need them to come to SEA

    • @stormwarning6219
      @stormwarning6219 2 місяці тому +2

      Yeah I'll be mad if it's a bunch cheaper. Just got my OLED after waiting and giving up on valve ever giving us an official release.

    • @newbietricki239
      @newbietricki239 2 місяці тому +5

      @@stormwarning6219 so your mad that Valve it makes it more accessible to purchase?

    • @bdstratton1979
      @bdstratton1979 Місяць тому

      Same i got my OLED from Kogan.

  • @sevenredundent7256
    @sevenredundent7256 2 місяці тому +65

    Bro, if I can have part of my Steam library on my phone, that would be a total win, even if my under-powered PoS couldn't run the games, the fact that phones can run our library is just a W for PC gaming.

    • @GraveUypo
      @GraveUypo 2 місяці тому +14

      there are at least 30 years of great games that even a cheap modern phone could run perfectly fine with this. not everything is about the newest and latest.

    • @Illeea
      @Illeea Місяць тому +1

      A couple smaller puzzles games in my steam library on my phone would be so great.

    • @MyJman21
      @MyJman21 Місяць тому

      switch emulation on android is very viable remove the translation layer of switch and it's even better

    • @vaporware666
      @vaporware666 Місяць тому

      I beat fallout 3 on mine

    • @MyJman21
      @MyJman21 Місяць тому

      @@vaporware666 ttw? work or nah

  • @Poo0fi
    @Poo0fi 2 місяці тому +65

    Steam lending a hand to Apple here. Proton on ARM means games you can play on Steam Deck you'll be able to play Apple Silicon Macs.

    • @lost4468yt
      @lost4468yt Місяць тому +20

      Lending a hand to themselves. Apple users being able to play means more customers, means more sales, means more money.

    • @Poo0fi
      @Poo0fi Місяць тому +4

      @@lost4468yt Nobody expects to play games on a Mac. Even Mac users know that. I'm a Mac user myself and I have a Windows desktop that only ever gets turned on when I want to play something AAA and every single gamer I know that are primarily Mac users are the same. There is a vanishingly tiny number of gamers that only play on Macs and they mostly play indies like Stardew or Rimworld.
      What this will really do for Mac users is that they won't buy Steam Decks anymore since their Apple Silicon Macs would be able to play whatever the Steam Deck can.

    • @FluffyAnvil
      @FluffyAnvil Місяць тому +1

      ⁠@@Poo0fiIncredibly shortsighted… and yes of course the choice is between a mac and a steamdeck *facepalm*

    • @Poo0fi
      @Poo0fi Місяць тому +3

      @@FluffyAnvil *shrug* I replaced my Switch with a Steam Deck but if I can play those games on my Macbook instead, I wouldn't be bringing my Steam Deck at all considering how bulky it is.
      Most people who carry Steam Decks are people who don't daily carry a laptop at all or daily carry a laptop that isn't meant to play games on. Sure, they're different form factors but convenience is very important for a portable and most people would prefer not to spend for a Steam Deck that they would also have to carry around if their daily carry computer would be able to play those games anyway.

    • @lost4468yt
      @lost4468yt Місяць тому +2

      @@Poo0fi except they do? Steam's own data shows significant numbers of players on Intel Macs still. Are you actually trying to suggest that Apple did this out of charity or something? They did it to sell more. They're a private company, you realise that their business model is to sell games and take a cut?

  • @Vipre77
    @Vipre77 2 місяці тому +48

    Regarding the pricing advantages for Valve, something else to remember is that Valve only sells direct to consumer and doesn't have to give a middle man like Best Buy or other retailer a cut of the sales price. That's a pretty substantial advantage.

    • @Tampafan33
      @Tampafan33 Місяць тому +1

      I mean thats not helping valve it’s only hurting them. If they had them in stores they’d sell way more and still profit plenty. In fact id argue you’d get people wanting to buy products from your website more if you got them into the base in the first place

    • @davidsentanu7836
      @davidsentanu7836 Місяць тому +1

      ​@@Tampafan33I don't think Valve has the capacity to meet the demands if they do that. They're not a hardware company, the deck is built on contract by a third party. The bigger the number, the bigger the risk producing something you can't really control.

    • @toyfan1769
      @toyfan1769 Місяць тому

      Thats not an advantage considering entire countries cant get a steamdeck. Shelf space is a BIG thing for physical products. Ask your average person who doesnt game what "Steam" is and they'll give you a blank stare. Ask them what "Xbox" and "Playstation" are and they'll point to the respective boxes.

  • @TheKAYLEN101
    @TheKAYLEN101 2 місяці тому +18

    If Acer wants to say that Valve’s pricing for its handheld is too cheap, that’s on them. They already distribute hardware, so they could compete if they wanted to 🤷 It just comes off as greed…they’re more focused on making a big profit than caring about consumers unlike Steam/Valve

    • @iowa6646
      @iowa6646 Місяць тому +1

      Yeah, it's greed, and not because Valve is earning from selling games from other companies and have glorified casino called Dota 2, TF2 and CS2.

  • @nadirafurry
    @nadirafurry 2 місяці тому +50

    try using launch settings like SteamDeck=1, You can force some games to think your computer is steam deck.

    • @hueypautonoman
      @hueypautonoman 2 місяці тому

      I know for sure this works on Linux, but does it work on Windows too?

    • @nathanielmestas7755
      @nathanielmestas7755 14 днів тому

      Wait are you able to play GTAO with this option on the steam deck??

    • @hueypautonoman
      @hueypautonoman 13 днів тому +1

      @@nathanielmestas7755 No, you can't. Rockstar blocked Linux on their end. There's nothing you can do.

    • @thatoneannoyingtornadosire8755
      @thatoneannoyingtornadosire8755 12 днів тому

      @@hueypautonoman i wouldn't think this would work on windows, as the deck is linux based and would be trying to use linux files to run it which wouldn't exist on windows.
      i'm not at all an expert, so this is just a guess

    • @hueypautonoman
      @hueypautonoman 12 днів тому

      @@thatoneannoyingtornadosire8755 Maybe. SteamDeck=1 is just an environment variable that tells steam to use whatever settings the game devs have enabled for the steam deck. It really depends on what the devs have done. They might use Linux-specific code or might not. We don't really have any way of knowing.
      I also don't know how environment variables work on Windows. I would guess they don't use the same syntax.

  • @soundspark
    @soundspark 2 місяці тому +18

    Rockstar could get it fixed very quickly, by registering it for the Proton BattlEye runtime.

  • @gdot1803
    @gdot1803 2 місяці тому +78

    Arm based Steam Phone is coming (in 5+ years) maybe? Portrait mode also coming to SteamOS, with a new area of Steam dedicated Android games and apps, perhaps?

    • @applehazeva2739
      @applehazeva2739 2 місяці тому +10

      Steam On Snapdragon would be OP.

    • @runnerup15
      @runnerup15 2 місяці тому +13

      Hmm probably just steam deck 2 on arm if i had to guess

    • @badmoose01
      @badmoose01 2 місяці тому +9

      @@runnerup15or maybe deckard

    • @GreenSkinGentleman
      @GreenSkinGentleman 2 місяці тому +15

      Steam APP on android actually installing games in your library would be crazy.

    • @LagiohX3
      @LagiohX3 2 місяці тому

      Cant wait for portrait mode

  • @The8bitbeard
    @The8bitbeard 2 місяці тому +9

    Thanks for putting the names of the games shown on screen. Too often I see an interesting title, and I'm left scrambling to find out what it's called. There's a few here I wasn't aware of. My wishlist has grown.

  • @bluebroham
    @bluebroham 2 місяці тому +21

    You broke the news to me about proton on ARM and I am SO HYPE.
    I dunno if you recall, but we were talking about this on the nerd nest podcast Livestream MONTHS ago.
    WE KNEW this was the next step.

    • @FanTheDeck
      @FanTheDeck  2 місяці тому +2

      Dude it feels like this opens up so many future possibilities. Like sure x64 to ARM is not great right now but if offers a path forward. Pretty exciting times!

    • @doublevendetta
      @doublevendetta 2 місяці тому +3

      ​@@FanTheDeck I think the most important thing here is the fact that Proton effectively translates DirectX to Vulkan as one of its largest components, and that several modern ARM chipsets support Vulkan as an API natively, so instead of having to translate an instruction set to an entirely different instruction set it may be a simple case of translating a CALL to a native instruction set EQUIVALENT, with a lot less overhead.

    • @stewartdahamman2472
      @stewartdahamman2472 2 місяці тому

      @bluebroham It's what @FanTheDeck didn't say -he doesn't remember you, the conversation was only memorable from your end.

    • @bluebroham
      @bluebroham 2 місяці тому

      @@stewartdahamman2472 It happens, we're busy guys. 😊

  • @irodragon7184
    @irodragon7184 2 місяці тому +19

    Valve just keep being awesome please. You're the shining becon in this dark time for gaming.

  • @RetroGameCorps
    @RetroGameCorps 2 місяці тому +5

    Sounds like the Acer handheld didn't pass the Contra test before launching :D

  • @jonathont5570
    @jonathont5570 2 місяці тому +16

    best part of acer as the full size ssd.

    • @yahlov
      @yahlov 2 місяці тому

      why? isn't 4tb enough?

    • @koerel
      @koerel 2 місяці тому +4

      ​@@yahlov 2280 drives are way cheaper than 2230.

    • @doublevendetta
      @doublevendetta 2 місяці тому +5

      ​@@koerel Not only cheaper, but less likely to be forced to use QLC NAND after a certain point due to density constraints

    • @elmergloo3259
      @elmergloo3259 Місяць тому +1

      @@yahlov the biggest 2230 SSD, that I know of, is 2TB and it’s about $200. If the Steam Deck could use a 2280 SSD I could get a better 4TB SSD for around the same price. 4TB would be enough for me though. I could install everything and have like 500GB partitioned off for Windows 11. Hopefully the Steam Deck 2 includes that.

  • @CentralDeck
    @CentralDeck 2 місяці тому +20

    Did you say Brazil? Haha
    Everyone here eagerly awaits an official Steam Deck launch in our country... C'mon Valve, is time to give Brazil some love!

    • @CheezMonsterCrazy
      @CheezMonsterCrazy 2 місяці тому +2

      I imagine they might be worried about the retail costs and volume of sales. You guys have really high import tariffs for electronics right? I'm, sure there would be demand either way, but maybe they just don't think they can push enough volume.

    • @bl00dknight26
      @bl00dknight26 2 місяці тому +1

      @@CheezMonsterCrazy high import tariffs would be an understatement but a lot of people here would buy either way, since the second best option is buying a steam deck second-hand or building a pc.

    • @CentralDeck
      @CentralDeck 2 місяці тому +3

      @@CheezMonsterCrazy of course there's a LOT of burocracy to import products here, but IDK, Brazil is a big market for games and things related.
      Steam Deck already have a good presence here, and a big advantage over other PC handhelds: the lower price.
      Asus and Lenovo brought their handhelds to out market, and they cost around double the price compared to Deck's on our gray market.
      There's a lot of people here wanting a Steam Deck, but not making the move for the lack of warranty and local support. Valve could be a real player here, but I know they must have a lot to consider on a move like this...

    • @VitorMach
      @VitorMach 2 місяці тому

      To be fair I got mine from Mercado Livre and it's been great.
      I do understand that the lack of official support means no RMA in case of issues. But for the price of a low/mid-spec laptop, I'd still recommend it if you have the disposable income.

    • @phoenixvance6642
      @phoenixvance6642 2 місяці тому

      Steam deck 256GB would be like $1200USD in Brazil sadly

  • @QuadratAugenFresse
    @QuadratAugenFresse Місяць тому +1

    Proton on arm is pretty a pretty obvious step forward. They get acces to sell games on Android, Chrome OS, Mac and a bunch of more arm powered platforms.

  • @KaiHighwind
    @KaiHighwind 2 місяці тому +13

    Dude Nintendo are coming for you for showing off Dugeon Of Infinity , you should have blurred the gameplay!

    • @nnikky
      @nnikky 2 місяці тому +7

      Nintendo ninjas are everywhere

    • @asdasdasdas827
      @asdasdasdas827 2 місяці тому +3

      I’ve been stuck on DOI, and maaan that shit is addicting.

  • @Kekeripo
    @Kekeripo 2 місяці тому +6

    I wonder if the Proton ARM project was started because of the ARM laptops.

    • @Roxor128
      @Roxor128 Місяць тому

      Seems the most likely to me. I wouldn't be surprised if we can lay the blame at the feet of Apple rather than Microsoft.

  • @Samus2400
    @Samus2400 2 місяці тому +4

    Man once they nail down arm/proton then i could see that flowing onto mobile opening a huge customer base

  • @krykry606
    @krykry606 2 місяці тому +18

    I saw Waydroid and I'm like, "what???"
    Waydroid is a Linux app to make ARM games playable natively on Linux (on x86-64 processors) via libhoudini (better for Intel) or libndk (better for AMD) translation layers, not the other way around. And I'm not entirely sure ARM processors are capable enough to run x86-64 games via translation layer, with exceptions of a few indie games.
    To me it looks more like Steam wants the Steam Deck to natively support ARM games, which would allow them to woo mobile games and gamers away from Play Store, and into the Steam ecosystem.
    *I might be wrong, but that makes more sense to me.

    • @lorddeus369
      @lorddeus369 2 місяці тому

      would be nice playstore is shit

    • @The_Prizessin_der_Verurteilung
      @The_Prizessin_der_Verurteilung Місяць тому

      @lorddeus369 Play Store?
      You mean Google as a whole; they've only gotten worse over time.
      (Android user since its inception btw)

    • @pracalt1051
      @pracalt1051 Місяць тому +2

      Actually they probably wanna get onto supporting arm laptops and computers that have been coming recently.
      Yknow, snapdragon X? Arm MacBooks

    • @user-uo8ny1kj4c
      @user-uo8ny1kj4c Місяць тому

      If it means I can run any apk then let's goooooo

  • @drewpatterson8009
    @drewpatterson8009 2 місяці тому +3

    Proton on ARM has got me insanely stoked! This could be wayyyy bigger than we think it is. Deckard would be fantastic and I will probably jump Meta ship to there if it comes.

  • @ZaberfangX
    @ZaberfangX 2 місяці тому +4

    To make a big market need to do the work, what steam and other are doing, but Acer handheld was little to late with them in the handheld space, if it was 32GB or ram then 16GB then then would be something other then Asus Rog with more rams would been somthing.

  • @zek62482
    @zek62482 2 місяці тому +4

    Think about the hundreds of arm devices out there! Would LOVE to see my Steam library on a PowKiddy.

  • @Kinos141
    @Kinos141 2 місяці тому +8

    I fear that Rockstar's move is going to set a precedent for other big companies to snub the Valve and Steam Deck. If a big company like Rockstar can do that, what's to stop other companies, big or small, from doing that.
    There were already hostilities toward the Steam Deck from many companies, and Rockstar is like Archduke Ferdinand getting shot to kick off a war.

    • @jeremiahjohnson2784
      @jeremiahjohnson2784 2 місяці тому +4

      All's fair, I would think valve is not a good enemy to have

    • @garrettrinquest1605
      @garrettrinquest1605 2 місяці тому +1

      If GTA sales tank because of it, the opposite could easily happen

    • @Codyslx
      @Codyslx Місяць тому

      ​@garrettrinquest1605 That's not going to happen tho. This is rockstar we're talking about, we know the majority of the player's aren't on linux.

  • @philippvolnov9290
    @philippvolnov9290 2 місяці тому +5

    Rockstar being assholes. Shocker!

  • @evshrug
    @evshrug 2 місяці тому +3

    Ok, Deckard is a very cool and fitting name for a Valve VR Headset.

  • @permeus2nd
    @permeus2nd 2 місяці тому +30

    7:16 and remember if a change rockstar has made has made it so the game is broken you can leave an appropriate review for their game.

  • @legendarycinematics3091
    @legendarycinematics3091 2 місяці тому +4

    Just got a deck and I LOVEEEE IT

  • @Langelmaki
    @Langelmaki 2 місяці тому +1

    This was a great video, lots of good info here! Cheers bud and keep em coming!!

    • @FanTheDeck
      @FanTheDeck  2 місяці тому +1

      Thanks! Will def do :)

  • @CharlieRCruz-CrCross
    @CharlieRCruz-CrCross Місяць тому +1

    The LAST thing that comes to my mind when I think of PC gaming is Acer...

  • @p4l4d1n7
    @p4l4d1n7 2 місяці тому +1

    Arm based stand alone steam vr will be a must buy for myself.

  • @Littlefighter1911
    @Littlefighter1911 2 місяці тому +1

    Oh.... I see, they want to make sure Proton runs on their standalone ARM VR headset.
    That would be amazing like hell.

  • @mategido
    @mategido Місяць тому

    I canno't wait for my Deck to arrive, got the full 1tb Oled version. I'm so hyped

  • @marcgilles4520
    @marcgilles4520 2 місяці тому +4

    4:14 IMO the ROG Ally X is the king of the hill right now. The Steam Deck has a lot going for it. But in game, the ROG Ally X performs slightly better and is compatible with my entire library. I still play my OG Steam Deck quite a bit, but the hardware on the newer Ally X is noticeable snappier. Steam Deck 2 will probably obliterate the competition, but for now they’re close.

    • @FanTheDeck
      @FanTheDeck  2 місяці тому +3

      Yeah to be fair I almost exclusively use Ally X (but with Bazzite)

    • @norliasmith
      @norliasmith Місяць тому

      I just bought a used Legion Go, should arrive today so I'll report back on how it performs as it's a step above the current ROG Ally Z1 Extreme.

    • @Codyslx
      @Codyslx Місяць тому

      I wouldn't say they're close at all. Steam deck hardware is showing it's age. Have you tried playong black myth wukong on the deck?

    • @Saif0412
      @Saif0412 Місяць тому +1

      The Rog Ally X isn't slightly better performing, it's massively better in terms of performance. AAA Games that are unplayable on Steam Deck due to lack of performance, play well on the Rog Ally X. I left the Steam Deck for this very reason.

    • @marcgilles4520
      @marcgilles4520 Місяць тому

      ⁠@@FanTheDeckdo you have a Bazzite tutorial? Or one you can recommend?

  • @myrmeko
    @myrmeko Місяць тому +1

    When ARM Proton drops, Windows emulation on Android will change radicaly.
    It's really good now, but it will become phenomenal soon. 🤯😮

  • @ThePianist51
    @ThePianist51 2 місяці тому +2

    Valve literally starts nuking the whole handheld and mobile market omg.,, 😅

  • @JacobFrodsham
    @JacobFrodsham 2 місяці тому +2

    I hope Val can figure out how to get proton to work on macOS because I would love to play my entire Steam library on my Mac

  • @NoRestEffect
    @NoRestEffect 2 місяці тому

    You are a noble, and a very humble UA-camr within the steam deck community. Very professional, addressing the news for steam deck users regardless if you play the game or not. I can’t say the same for Jimmy Champane. I hate to bring the guy down so much, but he really rubbed me the wrong way with how he addressed me for saying that he could’ve potentially forgot to mention - his response was to not be like the rest of the UA-camrs. It’s steam deck news, no?

  • @Marine5D
    @Marine5D Місяць тому +1

    If Rockstar does not solve issues with Linux and BattleEye I'm not buying any more games from them. It's not even a boycott, I simply planing to fully move to Linux so they clearly do not want me and other like me as their customers.
    Edit: btw Steamdeck should avoid Japan at all cost since Nintendo can register a patent for portable devices and sue Valve. Yes Nintendo can do this retrospectively and it doesn't even have to be a novelty ...same as with Palworld. F corrupt Japan and f Nintendo.

  • @Sonosuke
    @Sonosuke 2 місяці тому

    Thanks for all the info!

  • @princecuddle
    @princecuddle Місяць тому +1

    Psp was a decent success i loved my psp when i had it. The difficulty nowadays itrehe spec requirements for a good handheld while allowing for untethered gameplay not needin to be connect to the powsr outlet for most of your gaming sessions.
    Steam has a good library as long as they can solve battery problems handhelds woulda been #1 device.

  • @MDK-v8m
    @MDK-v8m Місяць тому +2

    Sony are only "remastering" these games for consoles, but their added benefit is that they get to remove the originals on PC just so they can outright enforce PSN across the board on Steam/EGS.
    They basically want to capture and lockdown the Steam market and pocket it into their ecosystem, none of which we asked for. This is why I hate when publishers come crawling to Steam, because they only care about stealing from Steam's userbase, rather than selling to Steam users and playing nice.
    Instead it's DRM/account sign-up/Data collection enforcements, coupled with higher prices, and all of that is enough to put me off buying from any publisher that comes to Steam and expects me to put up with all that uneeded crap.
    Just sell me the game at a decent price, no data collection, no extra hoops to jump through. let me boot up the god damn game so I can play it without obstructions/intrusions.

  • @positivelynegative3260
    @positivelynegative3260 Місяць тому +1

    Would be amazing to have the next Steam Deck run on RISC/ARM64.

  • @Dajodio
    @Dajodio 2 місяці тому +1

    Sony and Konami really do love region locking, I mentioned Konami because they still won't release metal gear rising revengeance in my country because we weren't going the target market at launch despite releasing every other metal gear game since, even survive

  • @Nik.leonard
    @Nik.leonard 2 місяці тому +2

    Official Steam Deck in Latin America when?. I'm tired of scalper pricing here.

  • @guxtavo14
    @guxtavo14 2 місяці тому +73

    Imagine if Valve launches a $200 arm steamdeck?

    • @Espadasilenciosa
      @Espadasilenciosa 2 місяці тому +32

      At only $200 it would be a downgrade in terms of power and materials, with phone HW instead of a handheld PC HW

    • @drakefruit
      @drakefruit 2 місяці тому +2

      The proton for arm is confirmed to be for the deckard vr headset, which will likely be able to play flatscreen games on the go like the steam deck but with a huge screen.

    • @datbo1jay1
      @datbo1jay1 2 місяці тому +2

      a steam deck lite sounds cool but kinda useless for the high end pc stuff ppl wanna do on it since it would be weaker if it costs less

    • @okamich.9797
      @okamich.9797 2 місяці тому +8

      @@Espadasilenciosa but a switch lite alternative that can run all the indie games will be cool af

    • @drakefruit
      @drakefruit 2 місяці тому

      @@okamich.9797 ayaneo makes a lot of those

  • @Evercade_Effect
    @Evercade_Effect 2 місяці тому

    Thanks for the latest and greatest news! I may not always comment but I do watch all your vids.

  • @VenaticSix15
    @VenaticSix15 2 місяці тому +1

    I feel like Valve would definitely sell alot of steam decks here in Australia but alot of us already have imported Decks 🤣 this however is still exciting to see if valve do release them here in AUS, hopefully it means others won't have to buy them at insane prices like $900+

  • @Shadeamous
    @Shadeamous 2 місяці тому +2

    Simple valve removes GTA5 from steam until rockstar lets linux gamers play gta 5 online

  • @robskitlz4391
    @robskitlz4391 2 місяці тому +1

    JC2.. Love it.. One of my all time favorites... lol.

  • @Maxhine
    @Maxhine 2 місяці тому +9

    For the ARM bit, would that benefit the M series of Macbooks too?

    • @archyatis
      @archyatis 2 місяці тому

      Apple silicon is arm so yeah

    • @badlydrawnface
      @badlydrawnface 2 місяці тому +1

      probably not on macos, maybe on linux since vulkan will be on there.

    • @GabrielM01
      @GabrielM01 2 місяці тому

      @@archyatis its arm, but its not exactly the same general arm, it has a bunch of custom instructions, so no, probably wont work, or if it did, the performance would be trash because said custom instructions were made by apple to make their arm implementation be faster than others

    • @JoeHoeDoesSomething
      @JoeHoeDoesSomething 2 місяці тому

      I doubt it since Apple Silicon is kinda different and Valve has shown they don't want to support Apple

    • @GegoXaren
      @GegoXaren 2 місяці тому

      Fex works on Apple Silicone, and can run WINE, but not on OSX.

  • @bloepje
    @bloepje 2 місяці тому +1

    That screenshot also shows something that reads as waydroid, which is a way to run android applications in a linux environment. That needs at least a special kernel module.
    I really like to be able to run android applications on Linux. Maybe that would be a way to view bimx files on the steam deck.

    • @FanTheDeck
      @FanTheDeck  2 місяці тому

      Yes, it's a little complicated to explain entirely in a video but the point is they're using multiple different compatibility tools for different purposes and all of them are to beef up Linux compatibility:
      Waydroid -> Makes it possible to play AndroidARM games on LinuxARM
      Proton -> Makes it possible to play Win-x86 games on Linux-x86
      ProtonARM -> Makes it possible to play WinARM and Win-x86 games on LinuxARM
      And it gets deeper than that because Proton is a fork of WINE and ProtonARM seems to be leveraging FEX. WINE itself has updates that address WindowsARM to LinuxARM compatibility. We haven't seen any source code for ProtonARM so could it be a fork of like Box86/Box64 or something? And what about making games playable on AndroidARM? Are they going to do that too? Lots of questions still left to answer.

  • @camboi6103
    @camboi6103 Місяць тому

    getting a steamdeck in australia was already possible, it was just a bit expensive due to import fees and you had to be careful which one you got since our electrical system is 240 volts which the US charger wont be able to handle

  • @Vladabdf
    @Vladabdf 2 місяці тому

    If Proton (ARM) releases in a competent and feature-full state, that would mean major strides being made in battery life for future ARM iterations of devices like the Steam Deck, which would be huge. Currently getting anywhere from as little as 30 minutes to as much as 8 hours of on-screen-time on the Deck, depending on game/workload, is rough. Switching to ARM, even with the same battery capacity, could see those numbers change to anywhere from 90 minutes at minimum (though that's a generous minimum, assuming other hardware stays mostly the same) to as high up as about 14 hours with lite gaming.
    The future looks good for handheld gaming, and I'm here for it. I'm not even upset in the least about being a "beta tester" for Deck V1; it's been a wild and exciting ride, and I have loved every second of using my Deck.

  • @LaughingOrange
    @LaughingOrange 2 місяці тому +2

    I have confidence Valve will actually give refunds to anyone who bought GTAV just to play it on Steam Deck. To those people, the game is now broken, and Rockstar is responsible for that. I doubt you'll get a refund if you've had the game for several years, but if you got it after you purchased a Steam Deck, there is a decent chance Valve will take your side.

  • @twosquirrels6997
    @twosquirrels6997 2 місяці тому

    Love your videos man thank you for all your hard work Rockstar doesn't care about customers at all I love playing GTA online on my steam deck and my PC I love how they push the problem off to steam

  • @ryozaki96
    @ryozaki96 2 місяці тому +1

    I hope Steam Deck 2 comes soon, I won't care about other handhelds

  • @AndreVandal
    @AndreVandal 2 місяці тому +3

    I had the game for too long for my refund to be accepted, at least this is the reason I was given

    • @FanTheDeck
      @FanTheDeck  2 місяці тому +4

      I imagine most people are going to run into this issue unfortunately

    • @SMASHINGblargharghar
      @SMASHINGblargharghar 2 місяці тому +2

      ​@@FanTheDeckit's about sending a message. I expect the same response but will be requesting a refund

  • @Food4thought1234
    @Food4thought1234 2 місяці тому +2

    Ugg. I still hate Sony for not making a Days Gone 2. Hopefully the remastered is a good sign that they might change their mind. It’s one of the few games I’ve every Plantanum and actually wanted more.
    If they are doing a remaster. I wish they would add content. More missions, fleshed out bases. The game is so good, but at the same time, it felt unfinished. Like you could see the potential off a huge open wold MMO type game, and that would have been chiefs kiss. Instead of making these horrible new IPS, they should have really rebooted this franchise.

  • @shijikori
    @shijikori 2 місяці тому

    I think you're under estimating Valve's relations. They have a footing in hardware, they have for a long time and they have their own manufacturing capacity. I wouldn't be surprised that they do have relations with chip makers.

  • @jbbmailbox
    @jbbmailbox Місяць тому

    Ok, as a new viewer can I suggest a graphic during your summary maybe say “coming news”. I wasn’t sure if you were just quickly going over news or what.

  • @thisunknownusername
    @thisunknownusername 2 місяці тому +5

    7:52 does this mean we can run proton on Jailbroken Nintendo Switch consoles running Linux? 🤔

  • @GreenSkinGentleman
    @GreenSkinGentleman 2 місяці тому

    Proton on ARM is crazy. I don't think it's going to be a phone, but maybe a more efficient future device. But I suppose the cheap (retro)handheld space like Retroid and Ambernic will gobble that up and hopefully succeed where ASUS and others failed.
    Also, the Hololive RP server was hilarious.

  • @DManLewis1
    @DManLewis1 Місяць тому

    The idea of playing my steam library on my phone has me so excited!!

  • @beepboop-oo8jk
    @beepboop-oo8jk 2 місяці тому +1

    hopefully one day i can play steam games native on my phone with the new proton

  • @thomaslabrum8182
    @thomaslabrum8182 2 місяці тому

    Considering how powerful and cost effective arm chips are, it would t surprise me if valve was going to use arm for the next steam deck

  • @midorifox
    @midorifox 2 місяці тому +5

    Edit: lol, it's for VR, not some sort of steamdeck with ARM.
    Every tech hipster loves to hype up arm, and then you remember that the moment you need to run compatibility layer for x86 programs all of the so called advantages get down the drain. Makes me laugh how arm predates even x86/x86_64. As well as how memory leaks are doubled on arm devices when you try to make them "the next x86" because some AI Bro told them it's totally gonna work.

    • @infini_ryu9461
      @infini_ryu9461 Місяць тому

      And all the AI going on is x86 based. Lol...

    • @midorifox
      @midorifox Місяць тому

      @@infini_ryu9461 sure but there's all of the BS pushing ARM specifically for AI, see NVIDIA and their blogposts that read like some manic schizo at some point,

  • @Nbc66
    @Nbc66 Місяць тому

    about half life alyx. The source 2 engine has support for arm built in thanks to the work that was done on dota Underlords which was a game that was released on mobile and its using the s2 engine your phone

  • @acsound
    @acsound 2 місяці тому +1

    The handheld market is huge (if you add smartphones); Nintendo should *not* have the gaming hardware space unopposed -- especially post-Switch. PC makers should really get in that handheld market to force Nintendo to step up -- and I'm speaking as a lifelong Nintendo fan who's OK w/their shitty hardware specs.

  • @RedLine_Renesis
    @RedLine_Renesis Місяць тому +1

    Rockstar blaming Valve for not letting them imitate their product. Lmao

  • @Wimmle
    @Wimmle 2 місяці тому

    Great video new sub from me
    Im thinking that proton on arm is way get steam on to android phones ditch hardware and focus on software or let partners like samsung build a steamdeck.

  • @henkohallows
    @henkohallows 2 місяці тому

    I have been hoping for the next steam deck to be a Arm based system since it would get even better battery life (Hopefully)

  • @helbertgascon
    @helbertgascon 2 місяці тому

    I think it's main target is not VR but MacOS. Not sure if you are aware but there are 3 big groups working in this. Primarily it is the Wine community where Proton is based from. Second is Proton itself that's coming from Valve. And lastly, Crossover from the Codeweaver group that's primarily working on it on ARM support.
    But since it is opensource we should be expecting ports from it soon. Mainly from the mobile phone and VR also. Android today can already play PC x86 games thru emulators. AFAIK I can already see a playable Fallout 4.
    This should give me reason to buy foldable devices soon 😆

  • @jankrnac3535
    @jankrnac3535 Місяць тому

    2:56 I think what kicked off low price point was a Switch.
    There is no point to get out a gaming handheld that will 2-times more expensive than Switch. That is probably why middle class Steam Deck is for 512€ and low memory version is for 416€.

  • @HypeCole
    @HypeCole Місяць тому

    Acer was like “we gotta charge yall for this handheld gaming system but i wouldn’t buy it “ 😂😂😂

  • @PeTroL420
    @PeTroL420 Місяць тому

    Valve can offer a lower price because they don't have to pay Microsoft for licencing Windows. A Windows licence usually adds $100 to the cost of the device.

  • @soiltek2015
    @soiltek2015 2 місяці тому

    Great video….speaking of, the writing was pretty pretty spicy in this one.

  • @refard5
    @refard5 2 місяці тому +1

    I would love to see the steamdeck come to switzerland

  • @VitorMach
    @VitorMach 2 місяці тому +1

    Will it be up to Valve to single-handedly save gaming on MacOS as well?

  • @AshLordCurry
    @AshLordCurry 2 місяці тому

    Valve is amazing man, Proton on arm that's going to change the gaming laptop industry I HOPE

  • @MadaoAU
    @MadaoAU 2 місяці тому

    Brother you can’t imagine what hoops I had to go to get the steamdeck in Australia for a non crazy price. I just hope this means they don’t hate us anymore 😂

  • @Zinkolo
    @Zinkolo 2 місяці тому +1

    The PSN login is optional on PC too actually. At least according to the reviews I read.

    • @FanTheDeck
      @FanTheDeck  2 місяці тому

      I also learned there's a new mod that fully strips the PS SDK runtime: www.nexusmods.com/godofwarragnarok/mods/22?tab=description

  • @shaeD96
    @shaeD96 2 місяці тому +1

    There is definitely a market for handhelds, PC handleds are relatively "new" (Nvidia started it, gpd and ayaneo were keeping it alive, steam brought it to its golden age) but none of these PC/laptop manufactures will ever do console let alone steamdeck, psp, or switch numbers because they all have one thing in common, they all sell at a major loss because they have exclusive/games and/or a digital store they take a cut off all game sells (like apple and Google with apps). Valve can afford to take a loss cause they'll make it back on the 30% Percent they make back on all game sales on their store front, and guess who just bought some games, a new steam deck owner or really any PC handheld owner, it's why steam they have so many sales. People buy more when their are deals vs none. Acer, Asus, Lenovo have to sell these devices and laptop prices or they won't make any money back, their income is purely from the hardware sale not games or software sales. I hope with all these new handheld it doesn't set the precedent for more store fronts.

  • @moonshot85
    @moonshot85 Місяць тому

    Whatever the next Steam Deck ends up being, I could see it being ARM based. The benefits in power consumption would be huge.

  • @thoreberlin
    @thoreberlin 2 місяці тому

    I'm hoping proton on Arm means that you will be able to play all of your older games in VR without a connected PC in Deckards standalone Mode.

  • @weiluzhao6192
    @weiluzhao6192 2 місяці тому

    I think proton on arm is prepare for a potential arm steam deck. Could be a customized chip from Qualcomm. Lets say valve get Qualcomm to replace the npu on snapdragon x plus/elite to more gpu cores. With a great translation layer like proton, it could be best of both worlds. Battery life + Performance.

  • @malo6748
    @malo6748 2 місяці тому

    On android we alrdy have a few apps that lets you run pc games thru wine like winlator and mobox and they can run games like GTA V, Fallout 4 at full speed, so full steam support for arm devices like android is definetly possible. So far the biggest problem with them is they heat up the device quickly because can't take full advantage of the system.
    Modern high end androids in theory alrdy have more power than a i5 10th gen + gtx 1060 combo.

  • @Lestibournes
    @Lestibournes 2 місяці тому

    I'm hoping that Valve releases a Steam Deck Lite that is designed to be pocketable. It's okay if the performance is weaker and is only aimed at older games and indies. IMO it should also do away with the thumbsticks and maybe also the trackpads for the sake of pocketability. Perhaps that's what the ARM support is for.

  • @TheViralKontent
    @TheViralKontent 22 дні тому

    Valve is doing great porting proton to ARM. It is most efficient way for handled consoles and the future.

  • @universedonut
    @universedonut 2 місяці тому

    I really hope we get more regions for the Deck, personally I've been waiting for a Latam release ever since the Deck came out lol

  • @tesial
    @tesial 2 місяці тому

    I believe Valve is getting ready for ARM because except computers, almost everything runs on ARM and there'll be much more devices with ARM and ARM is getting better everyday with their GPUs.
    And no, this probably not for phones but more for ARM Linux and Windows devices on the future. Also, this can be a move to redirect the handheld market to move forward with ARM because they are also adding support for other devices like Ally to SteamOS and this might be it because ARM is simply better at power consumption than x86 in many cases so it's actually better for handheld devices to come with it.

  • @NIK12787
    @NIK12787 2 місяці тому

    Single Board Computers such as Raspberry Pis and Orange Pis use ARM so that is very good news for ARM and SBC users. Valve should really push hard for these SBCs.