How to fix it is simple. 1. Meta becomes your true form 2. Your chaos strike and basice attacks cleave 3. Your eye beam gains increased range and width 4. Sigils become AOE eruptions around you Now that the visual candy is done, you basically get a stronger meta form. Make it have fell energy on the wings and give it fel fire coming off of its horns; As well give it some more leech and let it then at that point get some heavy damage increases. The con is your transmog doesn't matter, similar to how druid is. But you're choosing to play the demon form without the other aspect; Where as aldarachi is more of what we have now but a combo based version of the class. I also feel like for some extra cool junk, you should be able to fly in your demonic form similar to evoker. Or in vengeance you can just run like you're mounted. Again both Worgen and Evoker can do it, let the demon focus be us becoming illidan/diablo and staying like that as we've chosen that path... which should've been our shtick to begin with.
I was excited for this xpan. Since the hero talents were announced my excitment has just been slowly dying with each week of no real improvement. Ive only changed mains once and not really interested in doing it again. Idk what to do 😅 ill just be a shit dps playing fel scarred it seems.
Lemme cook: Make Abyssal Gaze reset your demonsurge activations Demonsurge activations extends the duration of your meta by X seconds Entering demon form via Demonic also grants you access to Sigil of Doom and Consuming Fire Upon leaving your demon form via Meta your next eye beam will be upgraded to Abyssal Gaze
@@mickolsen8823 it’s more than tuning, the tree is incredibly boring even if it was stronger, it’s just not as terrible as Aldrachi so it’s getting a pass
I'm just amazed that the devs, Ian and all of them aren't hearing anything about DH and think that in it's current state that it is ready for release! I mean no way are they paying ANY attention at all anymore. Which is sad for a company supposedly working so hard to listen to feedback supposedly!
i think blizzard meant for fel scared to be used by vengeance dhs, i feal like the hero talents have a more tanky option and a more damagey option for a reason
@@sloppyonexpo8258 I don’t agree with this. It was said from the start they’re intended to be used for both, and Aldrachi is much better defensively than fel-scarred is. This also would just completely screw over classes with hybrid trees giving them only 1 option
i left retail cause theres no cool shit with our hero talents, everyone's got something that adds to class fantasy in a niche way but ours is just more of the same shit, no customization, its just kinda wack
True, and for me, the biggest problem is the fact their is only one way to play our class, like if you want to do big damage, you HAVE to play Low Mover Aldrachi, Inertia Aldrachi is waaaay to hard and Fel Scarred is fucked up :/
I enjoyed the rework of DH in season 3 of DF but everything after has just been so disappointing. I have mained DH since Legion, so I will continue to do so, ride or die but yeesh. These hero class talents have been dialed in.
I don't think we need to necessarily increase the dmg of demon surge but replace the bad talents you pointed out with stuff that keeps us in demon form for longer. Eyebeam CDR, meta CDR and let us have the increased dmg come from higher demonic uptime. Better visuals for sure though.
@@Flavetheson we don’t really *need* more meta uptime is the thing, we can already hit like 70% uptime with the small amounts of haste we have, so giving us more cooldown like this would just end up capping how good it could be pretty quickly. The 30% increase to things like eyebeam/immo/sof isn’t that impactful (immo is for aoe) and also doesn’t really show up on meters. Having the main ability of the tree hit for basically nothing is a huge failure of the thing
Well, feels like fel scarred is mean for vengeance while aldrachi is mean for havoc. I dont have high hopes blizz will make either hero talents viable for the other spec.
RN venge also uses Aldrachi for both (although fel-scarred is a lot closer for them in m+). I also dont like the whole "this is made for one and this is made for the other", ideally they should work for both
Replace one of the boring talents like 5% agi out of meta form with something like, each instance of demonsurge damage applies a stackable DoT (fel burn or some shit). It's just extra passive damage which gives you something to keep track of and engaged in getting as much uptime on max stacks. Rather than, here's 5% agility outside of meta when the spec is designed to make you want as much meta uptime as possible Then another node can be like, your chaos strike deals extra damage per stack against the target. dunno, I'm not a designer. just play aldrachi gg
From what i've heard from Boomies theyre also in a bad spot, but theyre also one of the most notorious complainers in wow. I personally dont enjoy the playstyle of boomie (less so than aldrachi) but they have some cool theming
Boomie is equally bad as DH. They removed their best and most fun talent, Pulsar, that just gave you free Incarnation of Elune every X amount of astral power spent. You still have to tab target to apply your dots. Your ramp takes forever and you have 0 burst. Hero talents suck ass. They did boomkin dirty.
Depends what you mean by "better". Numerically, aldrachi is significantly ahead and its not close (50% more damage kind of ahead). Playstyle wise, while i dont think Fel-scarred is anything insane, it works a lot better with havocs kit and the rotation is much less impacted. Aldrachi's playstyle is pretty bad and alot of people i've heard of just flat dont like it and arent enjoying it
Felscarred is omega boring. Besides the reset to Immo Aura and SoF on meta, it feels like you don't have a hero talent selected lol. While AR has problems, at least it feels like you have a hero talent selected.
How to fix it is simple.
1. Meta becomes your true form
2. Your chaos strike and basice attacks cleave
3. Your eye beam gains increased range and width
4. Sigils become AOE eruptions around you
Now that the visual candy is done, you basically get a stronger meta form. Make it have fell energy on the wings and give it fel fire coming off of its horns; As well give it some more leech and let it then at that point get some heavy damage increases.
The con is your transmog doesn't matter, similar to how druid is. But you're choosing to play the demon form without the other aspect; Where as aldarachi is more of what we have now but a combo based version of the class.
I also feel like for some extra cool junk, you should be able to fly in your demonic form similar to evoker. Or in vengeance you can just run like you're mounted. Again both Worgen and Evoker can do it, let the demon focus be us becoming illidan/diablo and staying like that as we've chosen that path... which should've been our shtick to begin with.
Voodoo you need to rename this video “mage and warlock bugged???” Otherwise the devs won’t watch it
@@scaryeris6798 good point
true !!!
haha, so true.
😂😂😂
I was excited for this xpan. Since the hero talents were announced my excitment has just been slowly dying with each week of no real improvement. Ive only changed mains once and not really interested in doing it again. Idk what to do 😅 ill just be a shit dps playing fel scarred it seems.
Lemme cook:
Make Abyssal Gaze reset your demonsurge activations
Demonsurge activations extends the duration of your meta by X seconds
Entering demon form via Demonic also grants you access to Sigil of Doom and Consuming Fire
Upon leaving your demon form via Meta your next eye beam will be upgraded to Abyssal Gaze
watching your videos only brings me pain at this point :
trust me i wish i could make more upbeat ones but i dont want to lie to you folks
Want to really buff Fel-Scarred ? Go 1min meta CD
To be fair its just tuning, its aldrachi that needs saving
@@mickolsen8823 it’s more than tuning, the tree is incredibly boring even if it was stronger, it’s just not as terrible as Aldrachi so it’s getting a pass
buff the damage to 65% and let the damage effect all abilities like the hunt or its gg.
I'm just amazed that the devs, Ian and all of them aren't hearing anything about DH and think that in it's current state that it is ready for release! I mean no way are they paying ANY attention at all anymore. Which is sad for a company supposedly working so hard to listen to feedback supposedly!
i think blizzard meant for fel scared to be used by vengeance dhs, i feal like the hero talents have a more tanky option and a more damagey option for a reason
but i agree they have done nothing with the visuals for either hero talent tree, compared to mages and dks
@@sloppyonexpo8258 I don’t agree with this. It was said from the start they’re intended to be used for both, and Aldrachi is much better defensively than fel-scarred is. This also would just completely screw over classes with hybrid trees giving them only 1 option
i left retail cause theres no cool shit with our hero talents, everyone's got something that adds to class fantasy in a niche way but ours is just more of the same shit, no customization, its just kinda wack
True, and for me, the biggest problem is the fact their is only one way to play our class, like if you want to do big damage, you HAVE to play Low Mover Aldrachi, Inertia Aldrachi is waaaay to hard and Fel Scarred is fucked up :/
@@LeumasLSNTV You left retail i left the game ggs
@@heyyoyoho3113 i didn't left retail, i'm in love with the live state of DH (Inertia sweaty gaming), but i'm fucking worried about TWW
as of now dh main for 2 exp, i want to reroll. sad
I enjoyed the rework of DH in season 3 of DF but everything after has just been so disappointing. I have mained DH since Legion, so I will continue to do so, ride or die but yeesh. These hero class talents have been dialed in.
do you think demon hunter is going to be doomed? i wanted to main it but they have fucked it all up
why it feels like havoc is doomed in every aspect possible ?
I don't think we need to necessarily increase the dmg of demon surge but replace the bad talents you pointed out with stuff that keeps us in demon form for longer. Eyebeam CDR, meta CDR and let us have the increased dmg come from higher demonic uptime. Better visuals for sure though.
@@Flavetheson we don’t really *need* more meta uptime is the thing, we can already hit like 70% uptime with the small amounts of haste we have, so giving us more cooldown like this would just end up capping how good it could be pretty quickly. The 30% increase to things like eyebeam/immo/sof isn’t that impactful (immo is for aoe) and also doesn’t really show up on meters. Having the main ability of the tree hit for basically nothing is a huge failure of the thing
Well, feels like fel scarred is mean for vengeance while aldrachi is mean for havoc. I dont have high hopes blizz will make either hero talents viable for the other spec.
RN venge also uses Aldrachi for both (although fel-scarred is a lot closer for them in m+).
I also dont like the whole "this is made for one and this is made for the other", ideally they should work for both
It’s just a numbers thing for me. Havoc is also heavily influenced by secondary stats, so idk, curious to see what blizz do
Replace one of the boring talents like 5% agi out of meta form with something like, each instance of demonsurge damage applies a stackable DoT (fel burn or some shit).
It's just extra passive damage which gives you something to keep track of and engaged in getting as much uptime on max stacks.
Rather than, here's 5% agility outside of meta when the spec is designed to make you want as much meta uptime as possible
Then another node can be like, your chaos strike deals extra damage per stack against the target.
dunno, I'm not a designer. just play aldrachi gg
Havoc dh or balance druid for pve content? I´m thinking to change to balance druid.. but idk.
From what i've heard from Boomies theyre also in a bad spot, but theyre also one of the most notorious complainers in wow. I personally dont enjoy the playstyle of boomie (less so than aldrachi) but they have some cool theming
Boomie is equally bad as DH. They removed their best and most fun talent, Pulsar, that just gave you free Incarnation of Elune every X amount of astral power spent. You still have to tab target to apply your dots. Your ramp takes forever and you have 0 burst. Hero talents suck ass. They did boomkin dirty.
So which one is "better" for havoc?
Depends what you mean by "better". Numerically, aldrachi is significantly ahead and its not close (50% more damage kind of ahead). Playstyle wise, while i dont think Fel-scarred is anything insane, it works a lot better with havocs kit and the rotation is much less impacted. Aldrachi's playstyle is pretty bad and alot of people i've heard of just flat dont like it and arent enjoying it
Blizz dont want ppl to play DH thats it...
Still 0 Visuals 🥲
Doom doom dooooooom!
Felscarred is omega boring. Besides the reset to Immo Aura and SoF on meta, it feels like you don't have a hero talent selected lol. While AR has problems, at least it feels like you have a hero talent selected.
i just come for the cry comments