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500 Miles Towing with a Ford Lightning Electric Truck
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- Опубліковано 24 вер 2022
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Just took a 600 mile road trip with an Ioniq 5, used four EA stations and had no major issues. The first 3 stops were flawless. At the last one, there was a session fault about 3 minutes into the charge. I just had to unplug and replug. Besides that minor inconvenience, no issues whatsoever.
Thats great! We like hearing this.
All I hear is that they are down. I would not put up with the agitation and frustration
Mad props for being early adopters!! If you ever need a charge in Ogallala you are more than welcome to use our 50amp rv hookup out at lake mac! Keep up the content!
I used electrify America twice yesterday in Mishawaka, IN and it worked without any issues.
We love to hear it!
@@AllElectricFamily Granted mine is a 2020 ioniq electric so it only maxes out at about 45 kWs. 😭
I absolutely love my Lightning, and yes, I use it daily for work...as a work truck. Have driven over 6000 miles (in 3 months) and only fast charged 1 time. Now, I have decided that if I were to do regular long-distance towing, I would go diesel.
Wow! Stressful time approaching Oglala. I’m just glad most of my road trips are on the west coast
I was seriously happy when they put out the f150 lightning because it looks like a normal and useful truck. I was considering it until I saw this video and others about towing with the lightning. Thank you for saving me $$$. I'll stick to a truck that can be used as a real truck without the anxiety of getting a recharge. Also spending all that quality time at a charging station while on vacation, wow... so much fun... if it took me 20 minutes to fill up only 10% battery I'd go mad. The high cost of gas over electricity is worth my time and mental state while on a long trip. Seems like electrics are only useful as commuter cars, for now. I'll give it another 10 years then maybe reconsider.
They just need a 700 mi range battery, then you could tow 300.
@@microbiologycory10 Bingo! But that doesn't help the rate of recharge.
If/when Cybertruck gets here I think we’ll see a mind blowing charge rate, that’s what’s causing the delay. They’re trying to figure out how to charge 3x the battery in the same amount of time (hint:it involves a 450 kw/hr charge rate which many companies are working on) also solid state batteries will alleviate many of these 2nd gen EV problems as they will charge much faster. For now, if you work out of it; towing or hauling a load daily it’s either gas or diesel.
The key 🔑 will be the new Chevy SILVERADO RS electric it has 400 mile range and will be better for towing for now once they come out next year... Ford needs a bigger battery pack and all these manufacturers need a much lower cost solution for families if the product is to take hold...
@@microbiologycory10 that will add 40,000 to the price
Battery powered tools started out like this. Look at them now. Quick change batteries will make all the difference. Just a matter of time.
Not great to see that EA stations on this route managed to get quite a bit worse in a few weeks between this trip and my trip this past weekend.
That’s to bad, hopefully you made it out alright. Saw you charged in Lincoln, next time look us up and see if we are available would like to meet ya.
Those freewires have a 160kwh battery in them. Charges at a fast level2 rate but delivers 150kw on 1 or 75 kw on 2. It charges using 240, might be fun to have one of those at the house. For the times you need to slam some power into it while in your garage VS waiting for a level 2. Best part is that since the machine charges at a level2 rate, so you only pay level 2 prices at your house for fast charging!
Would most likely be extremely expensive due to cost of batteries…a 13 kw Powerwall is $10K, would need 10 of them at $100k. 😮
Oh no doubt. The cost of the unit is probably astronomical so it wouldn't actually be a phesabl concept. But it's a way to get DC fast charging at your house without needing over 400V and 3phase
Your videos are great but it shows me it’s going be a long time before I purchase an electric truck.
Jim Farley CEO of Ford told the government of Germany to ban ICE vehicles. They shot back saying, "No, we are working on alternative fuels." I believe once all the hoopla is over from politicians and manufacturers, EV's will be a niche market.
That wasn’t the plan but we will always be transparent with what happens to us. Thanks for watching.
@richardk6291 . Possibly. I could see a move away from electric storage batteries in the future if we figure out a way to synthesize liquid hydrocarbon fuels. Net zero carbon means. Then all you need is fuel cells to convert that to electricity. Any process they come up with not involving a flame will be way more efficient. I have a feeling my not yet conceived grandkids will be the ones to see electric propulsion vehicles reach a level where buying ICE vehicles makes no sense.
That Julesburg Freewire station would be more than enough juice if I needed to stop with my 58 kWh EV6 Light. That’s because I rarely add more than 40 kWh and often it’s in the 20-30 kWh range which equates to 27-55% of the usable 54 kWh.
The car tells the charger how fast it can take a charge. The charger will then be limited by either the ability of the car to take a charge or the ability of the charger to provide said charge. Limits are usually temperature, but other factors can come into play.
I believe back in 1930 they could not find gas stations everywhere, plus they didn’t have the option of have a gas station at home. I’m all for evolution. Things take time. I’m about to get my Lighting delivered next year and planning to sell my motohome. Buy an TT but try not be over 5.000 pounds to maybe suffer a bit less lost of range.
Grateful that you’re doing these trips to show us that while it’s early days, the future is electric !
Where is all of this electricity coming from????
@@kasjun1Ontario and Quebec Canada is majority carbon free grid. Move here I guess?
I have a 2019 Kona EV SEL. I get over 300 miles on a single charge without the AC on, and I really don't use the AC when I drive in eco mode.
Electrify America doesn’t build their own charging pumps. So they need to pick a new vendor. Hey, I know, buy private label charging stations from Tesla.
14:00 excitement and relief that the Electrify America charger works. Thanks Ford for joining Tesla supercharging network in 2024!!
How many total hours did you charge vs how many miles sorry I probably missed it just went on a 600 mile rd trip and would like to compare
I know it may seem inconvenient, but would not be more considerate to disconnect from trailer so others can charge on those spots you are blocking.
We never block a charger unless it us unusable. All of the chargers blocked in this video were out of service.
Glad y'all are showing the early days of cross country travel with a standard camping rig and truck. Reminds me of the films when people were doing this in the early 1900's. Main difference paved roads already. Waiting on some company to make a 500 mile range tow rig so I can get 230 to 240 miles of range for my hobby of going out to middle of nowhere to buy old cars.
charging is going to suck in -30'c weather up here in canada
That’s really cold
I barely back bags before I go on trips, man I will have to wait to get truck EVs... So much planning.
Once your vehicle gets to 80% on dc Charge, the vehicle slows acceptance way down to protect the battery
I'm now glad Ford held my reservation for 19 months before graciously allowing me to order a Lightning. After the $20K price hike and taking in all the underwhelming reviews, it's an easy decision to cancel.
My Mach e would charge at a high rate about 160 kw for 160 seconds then drop for the remainder of the session at about 100 kw. Is the lightning doing the same?
Why does nobody put up the trailer information? That way we can look to see exactly how much you weigh with what type of trailer you have.
You guys rock. Thanks for sharing.
Thank you, it means a lot to us and we enjoy it.
17:42 Florida ☀️🌴
Can you plug the trailer into the truck outlets while charging?
You are very persistent. I am glad for my Tesla Supercharger. You guys are pioneers. Thanks for sharing your misery.
They had a model x they pulled with
Guys I love your adventures with your E f150 and Airstream. But I have a very hard time watching your videos right now.. I have a Tesla and I understand that sometime charging stressful. But you guys are so stressed out it's hard to watch ⌚️ your adventures 😕. The way I plan my trips I'm rarely stressed out anymore over equipment most of the time it's my error and poor planning that could make it stressful... Please 🙏 don't stress out over this note you don't have to be the Banks Family loves you just the way you are.. We believe you guys got this process down to a science now and your ready just for the adventure of out door living... The Banks Family 👪 ❤️ ... PS We are waiting for the new Chevy SILVERADO RS electric with the 400 mile range so I can get out of my Ford Platinum F150 with 3.5 ecoboost and well be a full electric family... 👌
When you're driving a quarter of a million dollars of equipment on the road and have to stop for over 2 hours to get 500 miles down the road I would call that unacceptable
Unfortunately in the whole of human history new technology always has stumbling blocks that need to be overcome, and in time they will be.
Perhaps it is depending on one's schedule. I just took a 400 mile road trip and since one session was free it cost me $11.34 for the entire trip. I like saving money. Charging time was used for lunch and a bathroom break.
Love your videos! Curious if when you unhook the Airstream do you have to unhook a weight distribution hitch as well?
Thank you, yes we do have to unhook one. Thanks for watching
Wow. That’s impressive. I guess I’m just getting too old because attaching and removing my weight distribution hitch is a struggle for me.
IMO, I don't think such a thing is really needed in the Lightning, even at max tow payload. If there's one thing I hear consistently in tow range videos, is that it feels planted and stable under tow. I imagine the traction/stability control in an EV drivechain can react much faster and more accurately.
So main question, how many miles on a full charge towing the airstream?
They were consistently getting something around 75 mi. With 80% SOC…so less than 100 mi with full charge.
Calm down wifey, its just another source of fuel. Yes rain is wet.
Ford EVs will be able to charge at Tesla superchargers with an adapter Ford will pay for.
1. You’re very lucky no one else was at those chargers. Otherwise, you would have either had to wait or unhook the trailer. Ugh. 2. You’re very lucky that no one else wanted to use those chargers because you were blocking them all. Otherwise, again, you would have had to unhook the trailer. Again…ugh. I get why they stack the chargers like that, but it’s not very convenient for people towing.
The other chargers were all broken, they covered this and stated in the video. 1 out of 5 chargers not OUT OF
ORDER…soon 1 out of 5 charging companies noT OUT OF BUSINESS!
@@microbiologycory10 I'm not sure what your point is. I could see the other chargers were broken from the Out of Order signs on the chargers. MY point centers around the trailer. This topic has been covered by many other channels, that if the surrounding chargers are being used, it creates an access issue with trucks that are towing something.
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23:14 $14 to drive 130 km towing vs $40 for gas truck same distance.
I’d pay the difference…
While stopping every hour to sit and charge for 30- 45 minutes while on vacation. Pass.
Nothing like the needless added stress on vacation. Electric towing is not an option if I want to keep my marriage intact.
Glad you were able to save your marriage.
Please don't block all the spots in ogallala...why would you do that just use the first one with chadamo. Ive been there and would have been Super annoyed. Regardless of this situation.
All of the chargers were down except the one we were using. We show the screens off or reading unavailable in the video.
You guys are just showing everyone why EV’s will never fully be feasible. The fact the chargers are so inconsistent, the fact EV’s just don’t have range towing compared to combustion engines.
They work for the petroleum industry Carl, and are trolling everyone (except Ford). Ford knows combustion engines are the future!! EV’s are an advertising campaign for manufacturers to show off their tech to appease the customers who have money and time to burn.
It's amazing that people are buying these EV trucks when their range drops in half, or worse, when you actually ask them to do truck things
Never is a very long time….
WRONG MR. CRYBABY, THESE SUPER NICE PEOPLE ARE SIMPLY EARLY ADOPTERS AND PARTICIPATING IN A NEW INDUSTRY, VERY NEW... I REMEMBER WHEN THE EV1 WAS A PROTOTYPE, I ATTENDED ONE OF THEIR UNVEILINGS AT THAT TIME SOME TIME IN THE NINETIES, AGAIN ATTENDED A SHOWING OF THE TESLA ROADSTER AS A PROTOTYPE IN 07, IT'S GETTING BETTER ALL THE TIME.........TAKE A CHILL PILL MR. CRYBABY
EVs are feasible now, except towing long distance is not a good idea. If they were driving a Tesla Cybertruck, they would have tons of reliable chargers to stop at. Hopefully Gabe Klein can expand the nation’s charging network quickly.
Planning a vacation around maybe finding a decent place to charge and adding hours and hours to a trip is insane. How do you keep kids safe in bad weather when you stop to charge? How do you stay cool or warm? Isn't it nice to have a vacation ruined by HOPING TO HAVE A GOOD CHARGER OR GET STRANDED? Seems idiotic to laugh about the fact that you waste so much time concerning charging and get so excited over watching the charge meter. So sad to see people wasting valuable family time on vactions.
Rather than criticizing these people you should be admiring them for having the courage to be on the forefront of change.
Look, I like EVs and all and don't like seeing them get unfairly attacked......but I feel there's a good chance your kid(s) might grow up to hate EVs.
I honestly wouldn't do this type of travel with a child again if they ever showed fussiness during the charge sessions, at the very least until EVs reach at least 75% parity with ICE vehicles in these conditions.
Funny part is, they’re less fussy. Kids need to move. Taking breaks more often had been great for them.
Wife and I just finished a 15 state, 6,000 mile vacation trip. Spent less than 90 minutes fueling(2021 Toyota Tundra). Only problem we encountered were EV's blocking gas pumps while they washed bugs off their windshields, emptied their garbage and used the Gas Stations restroom facilities! When are these charging facilities going to provide this stuff for Y'all? You are mooching off the fossil fuel users! Keeping our prices inflated!
Well assuming you got about 18 mpg it sounds like you're kinda pissed off that your trip cost you approximately $1200 in fuel costs alone.
@@justinfowler2857 Quite the contrary. We immensely enjoyed ourselves with no worries of being stranded with no charging facilities or whether they would work. Or we will charge a bit here so we can stop in 30 minutes at a better charger that may be working or maybe it won't! Waste your whole damn vacation planning charging. What a Joke! It doesn't help the environment a damn bit either! They are STRIP MINING THE WHOLE DAMN WORLD TO TRY AND COME UP WITH THE SCARCE MINETALS TO BUILD THESE BATTERIES! FACT!!!
Wa Wa Wa !!!
@@DarrylCoe You need a bottle? The baby hungry?
@@rolandgodwin2882 sorry I just hate to see a grown man cry. But a bottle of JD would be nice, thanks.
Why buy a truck if you cannot do truck things with it? Load carrying is important but trailer towing is crucial, otherwise you could just buy a passenger car. The lightning is a joke. A bad joke at that.
It's amazing to me that people think 1 mile per battery % is acceptable in a vehicle of that size.
It even dropped to 0.7 miles per % as the temperature dropped to what is still very much a warm 64F.
Your truck that was rated for 320 miles of range can now barely do 90.
I'm curious how much lower that number will get if you were to repeat this experiment in winter.
The mile per battery percentage is not a logical unit for discussion or comparison as it would change depending on the battery size in the vehicle and its efficiency. The only factor that would have to do with 'acceptability' is what the kilowatt per mile is relative to other electric vehicles towing the same load. There is no relevance to the "vehicle size" miles per kilowatt in this use case (which is currently about as extreme as it gets for EVs).
@@PatrixBest it’s possible winter towing won’t be much worse. That’s because summer towing required Ford to install a second cooling unit to keep the battery cool. So unlike 99% of EV travel in the winter with an ice cold battery running at low power output a winter tow might hammer a enough power through the battery to keep it at 25-30 C where these batteries like to be and store the nominal amount of energy.
@@curtisbme You are correct, as I should have been doing miles per kWh, but also wrong because we know what this vehicle's estimated range is, so we also know that it should be doing 3.2 miles per %