2022 Commander Precons: Worst to Best | Which Commander Decks Are Most Worth Buying?
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- Опубліковано 27 гру 2022
- It's time for the 2022 precon wrap-up, so we're ranking EVERY precon that came out this year from worst to best!
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24. Draconic Dissent
23. Painbow
22. Chaos Incarnate
21. Upgrades Unleashed
20. Maestros Massacre
19. Mind Flayarrrs
18. Riveteers Rampage
17. Buckle Up
16. Bedecked Brokers
15. Legends Legacy
14. Mishra's Burnished Banner
13. Draconic Destruction
12. First Flight
11. Tyranid Swarm
10. Caberetti Cacophony
9. Forces of the Imperium
8. Token triumph
7. Urza's Iron Alliance
6. Ruinous Powers
5. Grave Danger
4. Obscura Operation
3. Party Time
2. Necron Dynasty
1. Exit From Exile
thank you!!
You are a saint for doing this.
Looking foward for an updated list
Not all heroes wear capes
No other content creators have done anything like this. This video really does offer me a place to steer new players into purchasing the right precon to play commander. Great work and I hope to see more content like this in 2023.
We do all the content!!!
@@malakimphoros2164 Well we can't know for sure if their gonna like it since they are new players.
@guysthatmagic did this 2 weeks ago
The Professor from the Tolarian Community College grades all the precons when they come out.
Guys that Magic do this content as well, I'm happy that lots of people do as everyone's perspective gives different info which is great
Guys! U should really do a tierlist with all the precons so far (period). That would be cool. Just make them fit in S,A,B,C,D (or any shorter/longer combination tbh) tiers so that would be easier to figure them out.
Surprised even that this video wasn't done like that
I was thinking Necron was going to be first except for the price because it’s definitively one of the craziest decks this year.
I bought the Party Time deck to get the black market connections to put in another deck I was building. Played a few games with the unaltered precon and had so much fun that I didn't end up changing it. And I didn't even make the deck I was going to put the black market connections in anyway! Love that deck, especially with Burakos as the commander.
The deck is top notch and Burakos is a lot of fun as a Commander.
Yea I really love the party theme idea. Picked up some upgrades for the deck like divining top. Putting death touch on a card like Sigrid is awesome.
more than all I'm glad to see I'm not the only one buying precons just for a few cards for other decks
This is exceptional content. Kudos to you two for all the work that obviously went into it.
I started Magic again back in July, and my friends got me a Faldorn deck as my first precon. Absolutely love to see how you guys rated that deck, it really got me back into loving the game again!
Bought it for my daughter knowing nothing about it and she absolutely destroyed me
Such a great deck
Just wanted to say that I really appreciated the idea behind this video as well as the insights throughout. Awesome recap!
Appreciate you too!
When I realized Exit From Exile was number one, I was SHOOK bc I started playing Magic/Commander this year and that was my first precon. Love Green, love the ramp, loved this deck while I was rocking. Great video
Great video! And I love seeing some decks I didn’t know existed mainly the starter commander decks. Cool that they are actually pretty solid for that price. Thank you for the thorough breakdown 🙏🏻
Happy to do it!
The amount of work that probably went into this video is insane! Thank you so much for all the content ❤️
Also to answer at the end, exit from exile is number 1 😬
Absolutely honored to have this as my birthday video! Great info and a good summary of all the decks
Love the content. Paused for naming the #1 deck which of course is Exit from Exile. The 4 D&D commander precons was my first baby step into commander and those decks has thoroughly hooked me in.
I actually LOVE Painbow but as a base for other 5c decks. I've turned it into a modular deck, sort of 4/5 in one. One version with Jared, one with Jenson and working on two more modules
Same. Hell, Painbow actually is semi-functional if your gameplan is "wipe the board and hit folks with big tramplers". The nerds are a bit hard on it for low-power tables, I think. Any place with enough removal to keep Jared or key pieces off the board is going to steamroll it, but I've won with Mana Cannons, Jared's Kavu & +1/+1 generation, and Knight of New Alara. Selvala, Explorer Returned is just weak enough to often ignore direct attention but can generate you an absolute metric ton of green mana.
I've literally won with this deck by going under the radar when my fellow players at the table ignored me because I was "only playing a precon". It's certainly far from amazing but I think it's important recognize there's a lot more variance among deck power in the community than youtube might indicate.
I’ve actually won quite a few games with my Painbow deck with 4 players total. It’s not a bad precon at all.
Hellkite and Okagami are 2 creatures I use a lot, Maelstrom is a great board wipe, and that Primeval Spawn is a hilarious trick to pop up.
There’s a lot of other cards that have contributed to me winning matches such as the mutate and bestow cards and the Chromanticore is awesome.
@LightYagami25 I agree that it's not bad at all out of the box but it requires the player to think "out of the box" more than most (not necessarily a bad thing either). But I wanted to abuse the 5c part with Jenson too, so turning it into a "transformer" modular was too tempting let it pass! I even thought about getting a second one to leave as is!
Same. I just took it apart for the cheap 5c mana base. Dihada is the cooler commander anyways
I also love painbow. Don't know why they say there is not win condition. Win condition is pretty simple, cast some beat sticks, pump beat sticks win game. Infinity combos don't always have to be the win conditions.
I have the Imperium deck and I played it with Greyfax with exactly your attittude towards her. At first. It turns out that having a tapper that also kinda anthems the overmana costed (vanilla rule-wise) confused guys in the deck is hilarious value. She's way better than I initially thought. So much so that I now cannot decide if Marney's a better commander or not. As an added bonus, she typically flies under the radar unlike the Ultramarines' number 2.
Excited for more shuffle scuffle and whatever new video ideas you have for next year! Keep it up guys
Hey! I lost my father to cancer Christmas eve. I had a lot of down time handling things and not working. Your videos kept my mind elsewhere. Thanks for the great content
Honestly I love the new Mishra deck! Its synergies with Brudiclad have been one of the most fun parts to explore. Can’t wait to upgrade it and attack with a whole bunch of reaver titans
Same! I love mishra plus brudiclad and machine gods effigy
Somehow I have never drawn into brudiclad and I've played it 8 times or so.
It still works really well though! Portal to phyrexia is nasty in that deck (upgraded).
Same here, too. Since I upgraded it, it's become one of the most potent decks in my rather high-power central London play group.
All it really took was some key additions like Hoard Hauler (which is nuts with Brudiclad), Gonti's Aether Heart, and Portal to Phyrexia. Vehicles in particular have overperformed, too - I love Imposter Mech and Weatherlight generates so much consistency and value.
@@lachlanspeedy2692 Machine God's Effigy is insane.
@@AidyJames Do you think you could somehow share the decklist maybe? Do you know a good site where you can find curated decklist of well designed commander decks?
I like edhrec but the volume of available Decks is overwhelming sometimes and a good few of them are really bad
I’ve been blown out by the Golden Throne a few times. On the surface it doesn’t look great but it lets you get some mana in a pinch but most important it lets you swing out completely and not worry about crackback.
I could have sworn Necron Dynasties is the best of the bunch. But great review as always! Want to have more videos like this.
actually useful content to a new player like me. i will actually start playing by the weekend and i have put it off for so long because all the info can be much. you guys made it so easy ! thank you !
I bought the firk deck, modified it a little bit, but changed my commander to will and Rowan, and it's actually fairly fun. But right now I'm working on making it something completely different. I actually really like carthalion. It's definitely built to drop 5 color creatures and pump them up to swing wide. It's funny you say o-kagachi is a dud, since every time I drop o-kagachi I seem to become public enemy number one.
you guys are my fav channel. love both your personalities. super fun channel and interaction on social media yall are awesome.
Great content as always. I’ve been debating about what Precon I want. You’ve sold me on Party Time!
Have fun!
The tyranids get very large pools of mana with extremely little effort so the over paying for the ravenous isn't an issue, also when you copy a spell all instances of X are copied so with Lucea Kane it essentially also gives you a bonus card for whichever spell you copy
(I've played many times my very lightly modified version of the deck and by turn 6 onwards I've found I've had easy access to 12+ mana)
the modifications were basically just defiler of vigour, the neon dynasty channel lands, spinal parasite (because I like the card), iridescent hornbeetle, and maybe one or two other cards (Unbound flourishing is in there too and things certainly get amusing if it comes into play)
Awesome vid and format! Very helpful! Please keep making this type of material. Thanks!
Very high quality content. Well done.
Super interesting seeing your take as high power players. We have a precon league we do and dihada is def top tier. Ashling pilgrim works amazing with your commander plus 2. Even if she only has 3 counters, with lifelink thats going to gain you a ton of life. Mageslayer has also gotten people a ton of wins. Being able to deal the damage even though everyone has blockers can be insanely strong
As soon as you revealed the number 2 deck, I knew Exit from exile would be number one!
Im new to Magic and got Exit from Exile this year because Im a big D&D fan so the D&D decks caught my eye. Needless to say I was curious to see where you would rank it, and didn't expect it to be the top entry! I lucked into that buy haha
I bought exit from exile to get some cards for decks I already had, but after playing it once I couldnt take it apart it was so much fun, really a home run of a precon
This is a much needed list for people like me lol thank you and happy new years/happy birthday to the nitpicking nerds!
You too!
I ended up combining the Painbow and Legends Legacy decks and then using Jodah as the commander. It is super powerful with a little bit of work, plus Keri-Zev is really good in it.
Gonna do a bit of a nitpick myself: Mageslayer does WORK in my Wulfgar deck. I've won games with it before (along with other synergistic cards in play, admittedly). But still, can be good in the right deck.
i started playing magic this year so seeing all of these precons ranked against each other makes me happy
Got the Party Time Deck for Birthday and the Necron Dynastie Deck on Christmas from my roommate. I'm still happy about her presents. Love both of this Decks. So good in the strategy and the synergy
I got Buckle Up for I think $20. Recently started playing and upgrading it more for a pretty decent amount of success. Vehicles tend to be on the cheaper end of cards, so pretty easy to get ahold of them. I know Shorikai is technically the better commander, but I've enjoyed running it with Kotori and a bunch of artifact creatures.
I have been waiting for this one.. a favorite of my favorites annual NN vids
Yeah this one is awesome! Took us SIX HOURS to export for some reason tho
I bought the Chaos Incarnate as a Christmas gift for my nephew and I was actually surprised at how well it performed, basically you want to maintain some form of balance of power, use your removals if something really threatening hits the board, then watch your opponents kill one another. Fun deck to play but I'll admit that drawing cards like Breath of Malfegor doens't make you feel too good ^^ Also the deck could be improved for cheap with cards like Malakir Rebirth or Supernatural Stamina which allow you to trigger your Commander multiple times. Very fun deck to play, definitely give it a shot :)
Literally used chaos against a greensleeves deck and a vehicle deck and it has another creature in the deck that goads whenever a land enters battlefield you can make goad each turn until u really need to play kardur and i made them damage each other whilst i set up tonnes of utility in enchantments and creatures tohat effected them
Chaos incarnate is actually really good against the other starter decks but that’s about it 😂
#Metagame!
i mean tbh all the starter decks are only good vs the starter decks lol
@@swampyswamperton6536 idk man the tyrannid deck has stomped a couple of our games outside of the precon decks
@@frostyshen689 they're talking specifically about the precons labeled as "starters".
My first time playing it I went against 3 non precons. I knocked out 2 players but lost to the last player one turn before I had him beat. Everyone playing couldn't believe how good it was playing.
I put a few upgrades into the riveteers rampage precon, took out the cards that just plain suck, put in some cards like Lilliana dreadhorde general, a few more blitz creatures, living death, and now it’s so good! I’ve beaten some decks that an upgraded precon should have no business beating, and it felt so good! I’m definitely going to upgrade it more, cause it’s just my favourite deck to play.
Oh yeah!! I had had to sit here and think about it for a moment but it's definantly exit from exile. I've been playing that deck for a month or two and it's sick. I love it so much. I'm going all In on making as many wolves as possible and doing big overrun things.
Love that deck so much.
The upgrade unleashed chishiro precon is so good. You give your big guy a mage slayer like Taurean mauler or Ascendant acolyte and you can quickly destroy planeswalkers and usually get A LOT of free damage. Orochi is really really good when you play a grumgully then a huge smoke spirit aid to get alot of 2/2 menace spirits that can tap for 2 green each. The smoke spirit's aid is a really good card once you realize that with the commander it creates a spirit for every extra mana you put into it.
See I'm glad I'm not the only one who realizes that too! The nitpicking nerds are always sleeping on the fun and cool cards
I love this deck. Its a cheap pick-up and for like 10-15 bucks you got a pretty great deck. I love picking it up and just have a blaat with huge creatures
Thank you for making this video!
Just got back into magic after a 7 year hiatus. Hadn’t ever played EDH and my local game store pretty much only played EDH. So, I purchased Painbow because I had a five color bringer deck, and merged them. I enjoy playing it.
Now to see what pre cons to pick up!
this is super helpful thank you
Captain Ngathrod?!?? That is one of the best synergistic fun precon decks I have seen (and I’m not the one in my playgroup who plays it), to add: Horrors have gotten pretty bonkers…super strong and super nasty! This deck works almost every time I have seen it and does just so many things!…cannot believe this rating here
Eh take it with a grain of salt. 🙃😊
THought nearly the same. I play with this deck and it is sooo much fun to remove all the big dragons and stuff directly into the graveyard and get at least one of them joining my party. Ofc it has its weaknesses but in my opinion this is way underrated. :D
Fave horrors to add?
Draconic Dissent was such a good deck. One of my favorites.
just picked it up yesterday for $32. Super excited to try it out!
This was great! Thanks both 😊👍
Buckle Up is one of my favorites. Slightly upgraded mine (mechtitan ofc + others) and often times no one can clear my board. Sometimes I feel bad for using it until the morph decks come out
The Reaver Cleaver gives you treasures for the damage done to a player + trample and +1/+1. In your example it would create 7 treasures. that card is amazing. Loving Legends Legacy. Great Video Guys
The line that always comes to my head when you discuss deck tech is the Joe Cherries "Ya Basic!" line. Lol 🤣
LOL
I built Dihada and really like her as a reanimation deck. That -3 really fills the yard and the +2 does alright as well.
I transformed Exit from Exile into a Minsc and Boo deck and really liked the few games I played with it out of the box!
I like the idea of painbow. You can bring it to a solid 6/10 with some small swaps and a revamp of the mana base. I've had some blowouts with it with, especially with Luxior, Giada's Gift. Usually i've got 1 or 2 all color creatures by the time I play jared, then its 2 ~10/10's, some with evasion.
Also, mana cannons is amazing.
I’ve played the Jared pre on maybe 8 times and I won all besides maybe 1 game so I’m surprised it’s so low on the list lol
switch it to Jodah, change some stuff, kick ass
@@claramonti3889 if you switch your commander from Jared to jodah. It's nowhere near the same deck...
I actually like the pain bow deck overall for a 5 color Precon I was expecting it to be way worse. Although not very powerful it is very fun and with a few upgrades I could see it doing some work
Before watching this video I was just running Faldorn in my cascade pile, now I kinda want to just build her. Great content.
Thank you!
Awesome recap guys👏👏👏
Thanks!
Pause ist set! The number 1 deck of course is exit from exile, which I bought after seeing your review of the D&D precons. I replaced about 10 -15 cards and now it's one of my favorite decks.
Glad to hear it!
That Gruul DnD Deck, just because y'all didn't mention it yet, it came with Jeskas Will, DBFB, and Three Visits. Wild stuff.
Fantastic content, you two. My patreon money is damn well spent.
Edit: I was right! Exit from Exile! Tell me I cheated.
Nice job! Also YOU CHEATED
For upgrades unleashed, to make it unique from other aura/equipment decks, but also to reduce the feels bads of drawing the wrong half of your deck, I made almost all of the cards in the deck able to fit BOTH roles. So they can be the creature OR the modifier. This includes Reconfigure, Living Weapon, and of course Licids. Just added some For Mirrodin! cards too. It plays differently than the typical aura or equipment deck because it incentivizes you to spread them out and not put them all on one creature, which I really like. Really good commander design but the deck out of the box was definitely unfocused
So I want to pick up the intro decks to have them to teach people. But with your comments I want to probably trade out like 5 cards from each for something else budget. Could you guys give recommendations? Something to make them well balanced?
I love the modified deck purely just cuz grull go big. Ive been trying to upgrade it but I see now without the commander the deck doesn’t glue the 3 ideas together super well
Great vid! TBH, I saw a lot of cards I hadn't noticed until this. I had a higher opinion of some of the new "duds" - Mezzio fits in my Prosper build, Aboleth Spawn is a flash reverse Panharmonicon with legs.
Glad this was helpful to you!!
Is it possible to see the Joe's upgraded Exit From Exile decklist?
Great video, awesome work!
Thanks so much. Great video.
Appreciate it!
I personally loved Bedecked Brokers. I know most people say Perrie is a crappy commander, but I think he's so dope
I'm just here to say that Colossal Plow has pulled a lot of weight for me in multiple games with Shorikai. Only takes 2 pilots to crew and I usually end up getting 9 mana and 9 life from it
Happy new year guys. 🎉
Luxior, Giada's Gift makes Painbow completely fine, commander that prints tokens, buffs 2 creatures including himself every few turns, etc. Hes a good stompy boy.
Exit from Exile + Legends' Legacies + Ruinous powers brought home-runners for Jodah the Unifier (more than the usual commanders that could have synergy); got them to build a Jodah. Reaver Cleaver feels like a card optimized specifically with this deck build; and Faldorn and Abaddon pop-off here even more. Add Prosper Tome-bound and Klauth from previous year to add insult to injury.
My upgraded Lucea Kane deck goes so crazy. Double devour triggers giving two cards for one is great while also producing pairs of giant hydras and tyranids goes bonkers.
A few X noncreature spells like immolating inferno, commanders insight, expansion/explosion, green sun zenith to find things like anger.
Hey you guys, really liked the video, now I can not decide though. My group and I all want to get into commander again. I bought the first D&D precons when they came out, and last weekend we tried them out and had a lot of fun. We would like to have 5 more decks for now, since noone else owns cards so far ( and i personally didnt like the venture deck too much) . Which would you suggest for that case?
I JUST GOT MINE!!!! this is probably the best box I’ve ever owned. I play competitive stax which is very meta dependent so having a box that holds my 100 double hard sleeved deck, along with the extra cards per meta, and dice/tokens needed in just one box. Phenomenal. A+.
Is there a video of a budget tune up or a normal tune up of the Exit from Exile deck? Thank you for the amazing detailed content. I stopped playing magic back in 95. So trying to get up to speed LOL
The Swarmlord really ought to sit down and have a nice long conversation with Animar. My boy loves Ravenous something fierce.
Faldorn is also my pet commander for this year, but Dihada is actually a very close runner up for me! I've been tweaking and tuning her constantly, spinning a few planswalkers and synergies for them in her and I'm really enjoying it.
I LOVED Ashling in there before upgrading. Using Dihada's + to give her lifelink and indestructible then resolving her ability the final time is INSANE. I fell out laughing at the life total swing the first time I did it lmao
And yeah, even when I have token copies of Dihada and three Chain Veil triggers on a turn I have never been interested in her final ability. She's strictly great beats or digging
I've turned my Dihada deck into a self mill, treasure, recursion deck and It makes the -3 absolutely insane.
As someone that eventually got back into Commander thanks to the 40k collab, I'm happy that even the "weak" precon deck Tyranid Swarm is still good enough by precon standards. Bought that one at a local shop with a great owner that liked Age of Sigmar Champions like I did, if not for the Universe Beyond set I'd probably not play Magic of any type. $60 was a fair price point.
Hopefully I'll be able to stick around much longer now that I'm back into this game. Great tier list overall as it helps highlight each new decks pros and cons.
Another cool card to throw in the Exit deck is Ruxa. All your wolves get +1/+1 and can assign damage as though they were unblocked. Pretty good.
Very surprised y’all are so low on Next of Kin from the Henzie deck. You’re so right the precon is a real struggle, but it moves at an excellent 6/10 pace with even a few swaps I found. When you improve the creatures across the board a little Next of Kin becomes significantly better imo.
On a mod cmc creature with an instant speed sac outlet you can really threaten the table with a variety of creature based response. Very toolbox like in that regard
I bought painbow and noticed the exact problems you outlined here, my commander was doing all the heavy lifting and there wasnt much else going on. I ended up sinking another 50 into it and turned it into a Jodah Archmage Eternal deck with strong win conditions. Still waiting on the new cards to ship to me but I imagine its going to be a huge improvement.
So Painbow is a decent base for making a better 5 color deck like ramos or jodah
Mind Flayers is really strong, if it works. I once got almost all the manarocks in the deck out and I played my commander turn 3 but once board wipes and artifact kills came out I basically got steamrolled
After hearing your remarks about Chaos as a strategy, I am curious how you guys would evaluate the C16 precon, "Entropic Uprising" I think? The one with Yidris at the helm? If ya have time?
So I’m new to magic and want to play commander so I found this video right, that start of this video had me DYING. Someone at a card shop told me to get dragons dissent and I was like “mmm na” and this gentleman in the video hits it hard “coming in at DEAD LAST”, I spit my soda all over the floor thanks!!!!
Your patreon is blowing up! Proud of your guys success. Been watching for quite some time now.
Appreciate the kind words!
I bought the party time deck and I switched from Nalia to Buruko and folk hero background and I put the black market connections in my card hungry Skullbriar deck. :)
Whoa, Indomitable archangel is a great card. For any equipment or vehicle deck it's a must own. How could you not want your equipment to be protected from targeted spell abilities?
I was very lucky that I started playing last year. I picked Exit from Exile because I thought, awesome a wolfpack.
All my friends were amazed by how good this deck was.
little trivia - 34:30 Thundermaw Hellkite is worth some money because it saw fringe play in Jeskai Control lists in modern a long time ago, for example, Shahar Shenhar had 2 of them in his sideboard on his 2013 World Champion winning deck
Caberetti catcophony was one of the strongest precon’s I’ve played although the face comander is bad the much better one is phabeen which is a whole package, card draw, token maker, and the lord, all wrapped into one. If you get a few upgrades, it makes it the deck really strong, fast.
Yay! I love Wolf tokens and I had never even HEARD of the top deck before this vid!!!
I'm sad to see painbow so low, but I agree. I had bought it and legends legacy, combined the two, and buffed it. Then, I put Jodah, the Unifier as the commander. That is my favorite deck I own, and it practically plays itself.
I completely dissected Dihada Binder of Wills deck when I got it although, LOL, I did leave Ashling the Pilgrim in since you can make it Indestructible, Lifelink, Vigilance to do small board wipes and gain a bunch of life :p
I played maybe a dozen games with unmodified Painbow against folks with built decks, and I'd say it's pretty good! Ramp, remove things, and make big creatures to swing out with. It even has a bit of recursion.
Of course, now I'm waiting for the rest of my triomes, bond lands, and a bunch of other cards to arrive... I'll use the land base for slivers, then maybe will swap around to do things like dinosaurs, hydras, and maybe something like a Temur-focused 5 color deck.
You're right about most of this. The Anhelo precon didn't perform well out of box, but I just wanted to point out that after about one hundred dollars in upgrades it's become my favorite deck. I copied maddening cacophony thrice the other day and everyone scooped. Definitely needs Jadar and I finally got a snapcaster now that he's 18 bucks.
smoke spirit aid in chishiro is pretty damn good, you get a 2/2 with menace for each 1 you pay into x, as well as a treasure when the creature dies. It's one of the few cards I've kept in from the precon and it still overperforms every time
It's also great in Hinata, Dawn Crowned.
Target every creature on board for cheap, then watch a board wipe turn all of it into treasure 😍
Throw a setessan champion in there and get a +1/+1 counter and card draw for each 1 as well.
@@Unnonamus That's amazing.
I think Eidolon of Blossoms works too
Huh, earlier in the year when I just bought some random commander precons in a hope to get into it (I haven’t played a single commander game yet sadly) I actually picked up Exit from Exile. Glad to know I’ve got a good one if I ever get the chance to play. I also picked up the zombie deck from last years midnight hunt.
hope you get to play!
I knew exit from Exile was going to be number 1 from the start. I have a friend that has it in it's base form, and it's really pops off even against "real" decks 5 times it's cost or more
The best upgrades for budget for token triumph are to take out all the ramp and add creatures with: tap tap an untaped creature you control, add one manna of any colour to your manna pool as well as survivors encampment and shamanic revelation
I got Token Triumph for xmas and man it surprised me when I played it. Unless someone has a boardwipe ready I'm already going wide with 10+ creatures a few turns after the commander comes out.
tyranid swarm with draw X spells and a few ways to turn max hand size off is awesome, combo in a bunch of ways to get trample , some fight mechanic cards and copies of : doubling season, unbound flourishing, doubling cube , mana flare, awakening woods, animist's awakening. Create Mana surplus - then win.