Totally new here. Seeing these systems played out and relatively successful seems interesting. Did a quick search and there are tons of people who say roulette is not the way to go. Any suggestions for best games to play?
@@seanstewart2344 perfectly played blackjack (depending on table specifics), perfectly played baccarat, or betting no pass line in craps is about as good as it gets :)
For those curious, "Martingaling" does not change the negative EV of a strategy. It does do two things; 1) It makes the inevitable loss exponentially more expensive when you do go broke, but 2) it also potentially delays (but does not eliminate) the risk of going broke in the short term because it gives you more chances to win a short-term loss back.
Also, while I was kicking ass with this there was a guy at the table talking about your videos. A lawyer from Tennessee if I remember correctly. He didn't fare so well. Shout out to the guy if he reads this!
Wow you had an insane amount of luck here, almost didn't miss, can you do a second run so maybe we can see how the system works when you have less luck?
So been doing some math, let's say we put $50 on black and $25 on the top 1/3 (like in the video) Whenever it hits red on the top row you'll get your money back ($75) I'll focus on the top row soon but first I'll focus on the bottom 2 rows. Whenever you hit black you'll always get $100 so you profit $25 the chance of hitting black (not including the top row we'll get onto the jackpot soon enough) is 14/24 or in better math 7/12 or (58.3% but if we're including the single 0 then it's 14/25 or 56%) And obviously if you hit red you lose $75 Ok now for the jackpots. If you hit black on the top row you get $175 a profit of $100 the chance of landing on this is 4/37 (10.8%) If i was to add something to this it'll be a singe dollar exactly on top of each jackpot (+$4) so when you land on black on the top row you'll get $211 a profit of $132 So if you land on black your profit is now $21 and if you hit red on the top row you lose $4 I do not recommend switching your blacks to reds. This does give you a higher chance of getting the jackpot (8/37 or 21.6%) but also gives you a lower chance on hitting your $100 on the bottom row (10/37 or 27%) and i wouldn't recommend putting $1 on every jackpot number because then you're spending a total of $93 so if you hit jackpot then you get $118 so stick with the backs if you want to try this system out. Don't switch over to Red. (odds and evens will always be 50/50 on this)
Maybe because I never seen a benefit to a Martingale system, that I don't understand why you would start low, wait until a loss to 5x your bet. To me a Regression system would make more sense. Start at the high level, try for two regular hits or one jackpot number and then regress to the smaller bets.
Like the person above said, it just has better odds of getting a win, any win is profit. If you prefer to bet red, just bet red and middle column. Same odds.
I would like to see you incorporate standard table limits when you do a martingale type system. Any martingale system will do better than normal if you pretend there are no table limits. If you don’t you aren’t really doing a correct assessment of the system.
I would try this but i would suggest that you do a positive progression 5x if you are already on a win streak like he was in the video. win twice then regress down for a hit or 2 then go back up.
I enjoy the vid you guys look like your having fun. It would be a better money graphic for me to have the total buyin up on screen. Below it flash the plus or minus after the spin which disappears and leaves the new total. In this vid I saw what I thought were winning spins in the beginning but no graphic. A thought.
I figured a way to turn the odds against the house. It involved casino having to match the 10 previous results on the 50/50's Guess what... I lost. These online casino algorithms are damn clever.
I like this one. Very cool. How could we downsize that 4k in buy in? Anyone know the numbers as in to buy in and what the five bets would be for a lower buy in etc?
Noobie um why such a large buy in? Do you make a certain return off how much you buy in. Couldn't you play this with just like a 1000 bucks and still bet the same and make the same? He never bet more than a couple hundred right? Obviously I don't know anything
Find a system that has a 99% chance of winning and 1% losing and then tell people that have to chose their fate of losing out of 99 chances and walk a way
I'm doing this with $1 starting units on an ETG just to see how many times in a row it hits without getting to level 3. If I get to Level 3 (which would be 50/75 bets) I'll pull the plug if it doesn't hit. lol
If you bet the big bet first then it isn’t a big hit in proportion to your buy in since you would have to multiply it by at least 5 times, thus $20,000.
@@DJMack64 This is not correct. The column bet covers 12 numbers regardless of which is chosen. Covering more black numbers increases the number of payouts from both bets (the column and the black).
@@danachase8083 ? the blacks are overlapping, with the black bet. You will win more money on a black win, yes, but you will lose more often because you are betting less numbers. The overall winnings betting either way are probably the same, but if you lose more often you will bust faster, making a successful run a lot less likely.
new to the channel and gambling in general. Why not use this system and just use the 2nd collum where there are more blacks? more jackpots with your starting bid. Then change to the 1st collum on the 1st or 2nd Martingale?
Actually the reason that they play the 3rd column is because there are more red numbers. This way there are less red numbers that can cause you to lose. You would lose on this system much more if you played the middle column. They go over this in one of their 3-2 Poppy videos.
so you bet 10 and 15 respectively, lose, you lost 25. You double it. You have now bet 75 total with the addition of the 20 and 30 bet. You can at most win 60 on this bet. Making that not feasible.
okay, so about this video. Your 2nd column black is 8 versus the 1st set which is 4. I know the first roll you hit 6, but still, my opinion is the 2nd set. I will watch and see how many times the 2nd set hits and then come back and reply. But i like this play, it is one that I do. Also if you had chosen red, then its the first set you got covered in the beginning. I love roulette. It worked better than I thought. Were you trying to cover the reds by betting the 1st set?
@@pat3464 yeah, makes mores sense now. I have several different ways to play. Watching these video kinda puts a name to it, where I never thought of a name. is there a name for one of these methods? method 1 - play 1 to 1 odds, and double your betting chips after each loss, then go back to single after win. Method 2 - My favorite betting is split 1-2, 7-8,13-14,19-20, 25-26,31-32, 5-6,11-12,23-24-29-30,35-36, buy in is the number of losses i will wait thru before i walk. example is buy in 1200 and you walk after 10 losses.
Of course you would have more Jackpot numbers if you choose the middle one.. but then you also would have 16 losing numbers instead of 12... So more Chances to lose your hole bet The way they played it , is a bit more "safe" Greets from Germany
The reason is to cover more numbers on the board to ensure that you are making money and able to play on the table for longer. This means that red can show up and your still not loosing. If you used the other column you would lose more frequently and potentially be out of cash and going home crying.
Now, I just started watching this so I’m not up on roulette a ton... but love the math and concepts. So here is my question... why would you be putting money on the 3-6-9 third, when the 2-5-8 third has more jackpot chances with more blacks? It has 8 blacks on it compared to the 4 you all are betting Edit, I think I figured it out. You choose the third with the least blacks because it’s less numbers to fully lose to correct?
I would love to see you guys rank your top 10 favourite systems or something like that!
Totally new here. Seeing these systems played out and relatively successful seems interesting. Did a quick search and there are tons of people who say roulette is not the way to go. Any suggestions for best games to play?
@@seanstewart2344 perfectly played blackjack (depending on table specifics), perfectly played baccarat, or betting no pass line in craps is about as good as it gets :)
@@seanstewart2344 baccarat can play slow , and can beat C slow and steady , if not greedy , blackjack is too fast and furious ,
Y'all had insane good luck here, but I'd give it a peach. The 5x Martingale makes sense, even if my bankroll might cry.
For those curious, "Martingaling" does not change the negative EV of a strategy. It does do two things; 1) It makes the inevitable loss exponentially more expensive when you do go broke, but 2) it also potentially delays (but does not eliminate) the risk of going broke in the short term because it gives you more chances to win a short-term loss back.
Serious question from a non-player: If there are 8 red #s on the top row, why would you bet on black? Wouldn't you win more on red? Thanks!
You would win more indeed, but the changes of losing are bigger because there are more whacks
somehow this is one of the best system I have seen so far good job Timmy and Alex
What are your parameters to define it as "one of the best"?
After winning 93k
@@gratefulclub7280 Keep going…
Also, while I was kicking ass with this there was a guy at the table talking about your videos. A lawyer from Tennessee if I remember correctly. He didn't fare so well. Shout out to the guy if he reads this!
Love your videos especially roulette
Wow you had an insane amount of luck here, almost didn't miss, can you do a second run so maybe we can see how the system works when you have less luck?
Ha! So fucking dumb
@@MeleaBPoker which parts dumb? The video or his question?
You lose more money with less luck lol
Using this betting spread the odds of losing four in a row will occur roughly once every 100.54 spins.
This strategy has a negative EV of (5.26%) which means betting the amounts shown the average return of 100 spins is a loss of $131.50.
You just know that Alex is legitimately mad as shit that this actually worked haha. Driving home, tired as fuck, like "God....... Damnit....."
Slippery Timmy you had me at 5x.
Never before has we seen someone yell at the roulette wheel to lose
So been doing some math, let's say we put $50 on black and $25 on the top 1/3 (like in the video) Whenever it hits red on the top row you'll get your money back ($75) I'll focus on the top row soon but first I'll focus on the bottom 2 rows. Whenever you hit black you'll always get $100 so you profit $25 the chance of hitting black (not including the top row we'll get onto the jackpot soon enough) is 14/24 or in better math 7/12 or (58.3% but if we're including the single 0 then it's 14/25 or 56%) And obviously if you hit red you lose $75
Ok now for the jackpots. If you hit black on the top row you get $175 a profit of $100 the chance of landing on this is 4/37 (10.8%) If i was to add something to this it'll be a singe dollar exactly on top of each jackpot (+$4) so when you land on black on the top row you'll get $211 a profit of $132 So if you land on black your profit is now $21 and if you hit red on the top row you lose $4
I do not recommend switching your blacks to reds. This does give you a higher chance of getting the jackpot (8/37 or 21.6%) but also gives you a lower chance on hitting your $100 on the bottom row (10/37 or 27%) and i wouldn't recommend putting $1 on every jackpot number because then you're spending a total of $93 so if you hit jackpot then you get $118 so stick with the backs if you want to try this system out. Don't switch over to Red. (odds and evens will always be 50/50 on this)
Edit: just realized that if you decide to switch to Red (so $50 on Red) then you haft to go $25 in the middle row so it should be the same now.
I tried this on ETG and it worked everytime
The Expected Value per spin of the base Ploppy 3/2 is -$1.32
[5 (14/38)] + [5 (8/38)] + [35 (4/38)] + [-25 (12/38)]
Degenerate here, I’m trying this NOW!
Gonna try this system today at Foxwoods wish me luck boy then of to Vegas Wednesday the 19
Don't do it bro lol. Ploppy? Yes. 5x Martingale? No way lol.
You posted 18 hours ago. Either you flaked out or you lost out lol
I won best system ever
I watch your videos have fun and lose no money!! Thank you guys!!
I'm with Alex, that's too dangerous. Fun to watch Timmy want to lose so he can 5x martingale.
Yawp!! I've been modding the ploppy, myself. It's a great corner stone... one might even say, safety net.
Maybe because I never seen a benefit to a Martingale system, that I don't understand why you would start low, wait until a loss to 5x your bet. To me a Regression system would make more sense. Start at the high level, try for two regular hits or one jackpot number and then regress to the smaller bets.
Every bet on a roulette wheel is a losing bet. It won't matter how you structure the bets.
With the original Ploppy system, what do you do if you lose a spin.....or is it simply a grind back one?
They should have explained that more or linked back to original ploppy video.
@@lisaw6219 I tried to find the original video, but had no luck.
Ploppy is a grind back system thats why they came up with this idea :)
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I'm kinda new to roulette, I need some clarification; by using the poppy system why do we bet on black when the 2to1 row have more reds?
It's like a hedge to reduce amount of losing numbers that also gives the opportunity to win extra on 6, 15, 24 and 33
Like the person above said, it just has better odds of getting a win, any win is profit. If you prefer to bet red, just bet red and middle column. Same odds.
Its a peach sprinkled with GOLD.
I would like to see you incorporate standard table limits when you do a martingale type system. Any martingale system will do better than normal if you pretend there are no table limits. If you don’t you aren’t really doing a correct assessment of the system.
This might be a dumb question but why not bet on the middle column?
I’m not sure the table minimum and maximums will work for this system. A $15 min table isn’t going to take that 4th bullet bet.
Is the Payout different on a Roulette Table in CA Indian Casinos vs Vegas??
why dont you 2-1 the middle row when running black for more chance of Jackpot? is there somthing i dont know
Point is to cover as many reds as well so you keep getting that $5
Why specifically the last column? Wouldn't you think to do first column since it has the most blacks?
Excellent question. Covering more black numbers with that same column bet would increase the EV.
I would try this but i would suggest that you do a positive progression 5x if you are already on a win streak like he was in the video. win twice then regress down for a hit or 2 then go back up.
thats degen af. i love it
There is no such a system that you can beat the casino
I enjoy the vid you guys look like your having fun. It would be a better money graphic for me to have the total buyin up on screen. Below it flash the plus or minus after the spin which disappears and leaves the new total. In this vid I saw what I thought were winning spins in the beginning but no graphic. A thought.
Why if playing Black would you not play 2nd column, more black numbers there?
Hmm ya that is a good question. That would definitely increase your chances of hitting a "jackpot" bet.
PEACH,, BUT if you're opening with a $ 4,000 buy in, THEN WHY not GO BIG right out of the gate, Black on black and Black on 3rd col. ??
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Why play the row that has the least amount of black?
On a busy table in Vegas, how many minutes between each spin on average?
On a busy table you can expect 35 - 45 spins per hour.
Middle column for the win! Most black #’s
I love it!
I figured a way to turn the odds against the house. It involved casino having to match the 10 previous results on the 50/50's Guess what... I lost. These online casino algorithms are damn clever.
I like this one. Very cool. How could we downsize that 4k in buy in? Anyone know the numbers as in to buy in and what the five bets would be for a lower buy in etc?
depending on Table min. it would still be difficult to keep it downsized with any martingale system let alone a 5x martingale.
Noob here but would it work if you just moved the decimal place once?
$4,000=$400
$25=$2.50
Might have to move to the video/slot roulette.
@@shanechepren8119 That would probably work I would think. Makes sense.
Noobie um why such a large buy in? Do you make a certain return off how much you buy in. Couldn't you play this with just like a 1000 bucks and still bet the same and make the same? He never bet more than a couple hundred right? Obviously I don't know anything
Find a system that has a 99% chance of winning and 1% losing and then tell people that have to chose their fate of losing out of 99 chances and walk a way
I'm doing this with $1 starting units on an ETG just to see how many times in a row it hits without getting to level 3. If I get to Level 3 (which would be 50/75 bets) I'll pull the plug if it doesn't hit. lol
Why not just put the big bet in randomly. Why wait to lose?
If you bet the big bet first then it isn’t a big hit in proportion to your buy in since you would have to multiply it by at least 5 times, thus $20,000.
Why not play middle collum for more jack pot numbers?
More reds makes it safer. It effectively makes it harder to bust. Your odds will just go down for a win if you bet the other columns.
@@DJMack64 This is not correct. The column bet covers 12 numbers regardless of which is chosen. Covering more black numbers increases the number of payouts from both bets (the column and the black).
@@danachase8083 ? the blacks are overlapping, with the black bet. You will win more money on a black win, yes, but you will lose more often because you are betting less numbers. The overall winnings betting either way are probably the same, but if you lose more often you will bust faster, making a successful run a lot less likely.
Alex: Perfect (shaking head) x'D
new to the channel and gambling in general. Why not use this system and just use the 2nd collum where there are more blacks? more jackpots with your starting bid. Then change to the 1st collum on the 1st or 2nd Martingale?
Because column 3 covers the most red numbers so if they miss a black they still have a good chance to win the bet
why not a 5x to a 2x instead of two 5x back to back?
Fantastic
It would be interesting to see if this works on rapid roulette. Believe!!! 😎
ploppy at $100/%150 or $200/$300 for a couple spins would be good, 100/700 per spin
Add the in case of a heater positive progress steps
Play this at the casino next time xD
Can you martin gale by x3 ?????
First bet, you put on black and 2,1 column but you should go middle becase have more black numbers if you play like this ^^ Best luck
Actually the reason that they play the 3rd column is because there are more red numbers. This way there are less red numbers that can cause you to lose. You would lose on this system much more if you played the middle column. They go over this in one of their 3-2 Poppy videos.
Instead of 5x, can I do 2x instead?
so you bet 10 and 15 respectively, lose, you lost 25. You double it. You have now bet 75 total with the addition of the 20 and 30 bet. You can at most win 60 on this bet. Making that not feasible.
The number of times you Martingale will not make it more or less profitable. It will only delay the loss - which, in the long run, is inevitable.
How do I submit a strategy?
Hi Mark you can submit a strategy to us here: www.casinoquest.biz/strategy --Mar
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okay, so about this video. Your 2nd column black is 8 versus the 1st set which is 4. I know the first roll you hit 6, but still, my opinion is the 2nd set. I will watch and see how many times the 2nd set hits and then come back and reply. But i like this play, it is one that I do. Also if you had chosen red, then its the first set you got covered in the beginning. I love roulette. It worked better than I thought. Were you trying to cover the reds by betting the 1st set?
the reason they do the first column with the least amount of black numbers is because it gives you the least amount of losing numbers
@@pat3464 yeah, makes mores sense now. I have several different ways to play. Watching these video kinda puts a name to it, where I never thought of a name. is there a name for one of these methods? method 1 - play 1 to 1 odds, and double your betting chips after each loss, then go back to single after win. Method 2 - My favorite betting is split 1-2, 7-8,13-14,19-20, 25-26,31-32, 5-6,11-12,23-24-29-30,35-36, buy in is the number of losses i will wait thru before i walk. example is buy in 1200 and you walk after 10 losses.
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Yes yes YESSSSS
Not very clear the bet... 25/10 40/30 and???
A relaxing time lol losing or winning is not relaxing XD
I don't understand if you're betting black, why wouldn't you be betting the column in the middle where there are more black numbers
If you choose a column with more blacks, there are more complete lose numbers too. He's just more hedged against a complete loss.
Like even money with an edge.
what are the chip values any how many are you putting on each slot?
Red 5 green 25
3 red on black
2 red on line
No way! Roulette always gives great examples of Murphy's Law
martingale almost got me broke lmao i just kept losing lmao
If I could scrap 4g's and play this system I would
and if you actually bid like you are supposed to and put down $300/200 you would be up a $1000 in you 10 spins.
Why not bet on the middle 2to1, where there are 8 black numbers, opposed to the 4 in the first column?
Of course you would have more Jackpot numbers if you choose the middle one.. but then you also would have 16 losing numbers instead of 12...
So more Chances to lose your hole bet
The way they played it , is a bit more "safe"
Greets from Germany
it would be less hedge vs the column ie more reds to miss on 14 spots vs 10 spots too lazy to math the odds but ya
That would be the same if you were to bet red with the center column.
The reason is to cover more numbers on the board to ensure that you are making money and able to play on the table for longer. This means that red can show up and your still not loosing. If you used the other column you would lose more frequently and potentially be out of cash and going home crying.
casinos i visit have a 100 dollar limit on the table so you can only do one martigale then what
You need to go to a casino that wears big pants. $100 limit casino? I spend more on cigarettes booze & lunch.
then you're screwed lol.
@@patrickwestcott6952 at least i save my cash for the next great system they put out,lol.
Of course it doesn't works lol, too slow a big profit, could just go bigger at the begging 😂, same strat, same chance... Just risking more, that's it
Alright, spend the 15 minutes and run this again.
Now, I just started watching this so I’m not up on roulette a ton... but love the math and concepts. So here is my question... why would you be putting money on the 3-6-9 third, when the 2-5-8 third has more jackpot chances with more blacks? It has 8 blacks on it compared to the 4 you all are betting
Edit, I think I figured it out. You choose the third with the least blacks because it’s less numbers to fully lose to correct?
yes
More reds in the column.
Is this Timmy from Imagine Scent? Lol
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@@ImagineScent HAHHAHAHA made my day!
Lots of black in a row. Shows you it can happen even on a real table
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itry all your system in the montreal online casino, hit Zero x 3 , and lost it all, so funy how it's rigged just dont play..
So shot let’s just make it 6X
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Another behind the woodshed bankroll beat down system,,, LMAO
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Stupid system.
Love Ploppy