2018 NA LCS SUMMER META POWER RANKING
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- Опубліковано 8 лют 2025
- My power rankings for the 2018 summer split ONLY depending on how well I expect the current teams to adapt to the meta. Pure speculation and bullshit ahead.
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stixxay finally playing warwick on stage? PogChamp ?
Scott Dohner I really hope so!
Mark that is the best intro you have ever done keep up the good work
IS IT TIME FOR MY BOY TURTLE?! We shall see. I hope you are right Mark!
WildTurtle is Singlelift
Glad you added the note about Akaadian. He is a top tier Graves and huge for FBs. This is a good meta for him.
too bad he is a bottom of the barrel player.
Ben Bristol-Evans he will either drag the team to victory or die trying
Graves will be banned against him everygame
Licorice - Sven - Goldenglue - Keith - Zayzal
WizardXZD that is the worst reason ever. TSM didn’t win finals. Is berg being subbed out? Nah but Jensen is
Space Cow bjergsen is known for his drive and how hard he works
Are you on the team? You don't know any of the reasons. You are just speculating but stating it as fact.
C9's video that they put out today seemed to imply that the swap occurred because of work ethic/the subs currently performing better internally than their counterparts
If you actually believe what the organizations tell you then you have a long way to go my gullible friend.
Me: Two videos in one day POGGERS
MarkZ: It's not like I wanted to upload...baka!
I was confused. Then I reread the title carefully. Makes sense now.
Dude Mark you're crazy fun to watch keep it up buddy
holy shit so glad you said that stuff about DL. He's my favourite player but i've always noticed his champ pool outside of solo q is quite limited (what he can effectively play in comp) in the sense im always nervous when they pick something outside of two or three champs he's shown proficiency on. He never really ints his lane or gets completely crushed but he ends up not being the dominant force his team needs him to be later on, once they've been out rotated and out pressured due to the lack of pressure coming out of bot that teams he is on are used to.
POGGERS Markz content
My man Turtle about to shineeeeee
I have a feeling a lot of people are going to misunderstand what this video is..... despite the title lol.
and the description? and how he does a bit in the video about how it's meta related only? markz covered all the bases, i think people will be fine
Iz L you underestimate the stupidity of the internet
@TheeMarkZ, on your point about TSM, i agree with the points you made, but something interesting to add is we saw bjerg playing master yi jungle with grig playing mid lane taric supporting him on stream. With taking that thought process, what do you think of TSM if instead of forcing bjerg, who is there main carry, to play supportive champions, to instead have bjerg hop around and play carries in other positions and have other players play the supportive role still, even if its mid lane. You can also mix and match your subs in to cover for your role changes as well.
That got me thinking that this meta is pretty versatile and instead of being a midlaner, it could kinda introduces something that dota 2 has in the fact that you have a carry on your team, and they can move around depending on were you want to play your carry to be optimal. Of course that still makes the situation a giant question mark, but I think its something to consider if a team is able to play around a singular carry that hops from different lanes and positions now, because bjerg really is one of the best carries in NA who has a ton of champion diversity.
This would also change the look of other teams quite a bit if you start thinking of things like this. Like how huni might not be locked into playing top only, and now you can simply shove him mid lane and funnal farm to him while having a different player play a more supportive top, or maybe bring in your sub top laner. Jensen is intresting because I would have guessed he would be good in this meta, but C9s decision to bench a ton of there team brings a ton of question marks so we kinda just have to wait and see whats going on with them.
Crazy how mark predicted fly quest a top tier team
Dont sleep on DL's Lucian. Dude has the cleanest animation cancles I've ever seen.
Ratzu Namikaze that's DL's pocketpick. Pretty sure it will always get banned. Lol
Do we not remember the split where DL played like 90% of his games as Lucian and helped tsm go like 17-1 or something??? His Lucian is disgustingly scary lmao
Something to keep in mind is teams like C9 and TSM might have their mids swap jungle for Karthus/Yi strat and put the jungle/sup mid.
In respects to C9's roster changes here are my thoughts:
First off, this meta flipped a lot of things on it's head. aggression is key and given Sneaky and Jensen's recent champion pools (Sneaky on crit ADs and Jensen on control mages) It makes sense that they were subbed out. My guess on Smoothie is that they wanted to maintain ADC + SUP synergy. I'm hoping it's not long term either, but I understand the mindset of it. As far as I know the decision may stand to be temporary. Either once those players adapt to the meta or the meta returns to a more favourable one for those players I think they will be subbed back in.
Second, I can see goldenglue working as a great supportive mid laner (I wouldn't trust him to do much on a carry though) and some of kieth's best plays were on Lucian. I'm not sure who is going to be doing the shot-calling though with smoothie subbed out.
Yascob Given Jensen's history on assassins, I don't think he'll take long to get acclimated to being aggressive again.
theguyshadows true, I just don't think he's ready to play them yet. I can't remember the last time I've seen him play one competitively.
Yascob the sub decision was made before the meta change sneaky even said so on his stream so that wasnt the reason
Impact is a question mark? "Maybe" Ryu can pull out some of those picks? C'mon where are the hot takes. Tell me EF's bot lane will bring down their whole team or that impact will shit the bed top lane. Get this weak shit out of here.
I can't agree that it wasn't a surprise. I had also heard about the scrim thing on twitter, but benching 3 of not only your team's best players, but the LCS' best players is just outright stupid. I don't care if their motivation wasn't there. There are other, and more productive ways to motivate players than shooting your team in the foot like that. I feel bad for C9 fans this split, its gotta be rough seeing your team's management drop the ball like that and then not really explain themselves well enough.
If Bjeg dominates this meta, I will forever call him the greatest western player without a question.
I'm not a 'Turtle fan, but I completely agree with your assessment of him.
TWO VIDEOS IN ONE DAYYYY!! O,...,o
It is fun speculating about the meta and I like your videos. A bit much on the colorful language in this one for me though.
You won't be talking shit about Mike Yeung if you see the new "Eyes On Mike Yeung" Vid. That shit straight up made me cry.
I love this meta, is the moment when you can see fking fidlesticks, yi, darius, mundo, karthus and Aatrox playing in the most competitive regions after years of been gone and forggoten. And the best part is that you can still play standard lines and win, the only broken part is how powerfull are supports that are be used in mid and ADC...
I think Impact can be pretty confortable in this meta, when top tanks still relevant (because fighters are played in mid, bot and jg) and Singed is a strong champ.
Altec and Adrian can play tank duo line, maybe mage with a initiation support, and Kalista is becomen better with the nerf on crit and the buff on bork, maybe EF isn't that unconfortable in this meta like it seems.
Peter's Lucian is gna be a mandatory ban imo.
Yep. I think so too
"This new meta focuses around competent adc's, so the team with Wildturtle is going to have an edge"
I need whatever drugs this man is on.
First like :) welcome back to the Tube, Mark
I'm not sure I agree with the TSM analysis. We've seen Bjerg has the supportive champs in his arsenal (he's played Karma and Lulu and stuff to great success in past seasons), Mike is better on aggressive junglers which feels possibly suited to cheese (?), and Zven has been smashing solo Q on all sorts of crazy stuff (I think his most played is Vlad).
Balls moon hai turtle lemon
This team would be #1 but mia a few
not gonna lie, lemon is the worst LCS player for years now
Ur alive!
>i don't like people calling it a fiesta meta
> proceeds to describe a meta which is a fiesta
why does fiesta have to be negative :(
i love fiestas!
I love my boys fly quest and turtle
Seen Aatrox dominate toplane in the LCK, so bad such an interesting champ is getting turned into Riven
Yeah i wish they revert the change.
I agree with pretty much with your assessments. I only think that you are to player focussed. If I look at the team identities I see an aggressive and snowbally team in Echo Fox and even if the champions not completely fit the players I still think that Echo Fox as a team excels in this kind of meta. Clutch Gaming is a team which played very controlled, standard and slow last season so I think overall this meta is bad for them.
I HAD NO IDEA U MADE UR OWN CONTENT AYYYY INSTASUB
If you don't pick ME for the next hotline league, I M GONNA LOSE MY SHIT!!!
How in a video about the meta, Taliyah was not mentioned? She has been in so many of my solo queue games.
Great video! I think it would be nice if you put the text from tweets on the screen too :)
Cant wait to see what Keane can cook up
Optic is continuing to run Doklah? I thought he was really unimpressive last year, a little surprised here.
I don't agree with saying that top lane isn't important. Bruisers have an amazing power spike at 2 items. Which is why you're seeing quite a bit of irelia and darius bot lane. Adcs take too long to pop off. Yeah they can work but they aren't going to beat some of these crazy picks bot lane where they reach their powerspikes so early in the game.
I think mid and top is what defines the games right now, more than anything.
ADC in 2018 LUL
I'm kind of on the fence about the meta. I main mid so the patch doesn't shit on my role like how ADC mains got shit on. But I imagine if mid lane changed so drastically like that. I'd prob be a little salty.
This meta will reward teams that think outside the box. Unfortunately for TSM, they are the box.
Really enjoyed the video, but could you fix that bright light to the left, it draws a lot of attention and washes you out. :) anyways keep it up!
So what your saying is: Iran. Or is that Italy sideways?
Confused why TL is positive just because xmithie is good at Graves. I don't see dl good on bruisers. Pob isn't good on asol and bad meta for impact
xmithie's kindred is probably the most insane in NA. He is gonna be a key for TL this split. About DL, idk if hes gona catch up the meta botchamps fast enough, but hes a good mechanical player and im sure he will go on with it (im not a tl fan btw)
Cannot wait for dl to play ryze vlad irelia botlane.
I mean wasn't Altec the only person to play Morde in the LCS in recent memory back on Flyquest, and that was when the pick was actual dogshit. I would assume he at least can play some of the offmeta bruiser/mage botlaners at a level that doesn't handicap his team.
Wildturtle is definetly meta. I always pick that champion
If this is just a tier list for how well teams suit the meta, does it have any predictive power?
So would you put C9 higher or lower if they didn’t change the roster?
lower af with the cuurrent jensen level.
I'm glad to see the C9 overwatch tradition leaking over to LoL.
Connor McMurray I don’t watch overwatch. What is C9s team doing?
A C9 is when a team overcommits to a fight that they lose the point. C9 did this 3 times in one match so it's sort of become their trademark, it usually refers to throwing in general these days.
3:01 how shocking
Uh does he not mention bjergsen zed. or bjergsen leblanc. Pretty sure those champs are really good in the meta right now.
Confirmed Apollo is gonna play Yasuo, just cos you said he shouldnt
just watched yesterdays LCK and that skt lulu adc shit was a real HMMMMMM moment because i didnt watch LPL at all. I saw some solo q games with some weird adc but i thought everyone was trolling. Shit hit the fan
Not even a mention of Huhi Aurelion Sol
Omg diversity finally I’d love to see pros play champs they like instead of what they have to
maybe you could make a CG x EF video?
goldenglue is terrible wtf
Do you still live with Offline TV??
Sorry if this is impertinent
apollo and hakuho known for slightly winning lane? slightly?? mmk
they’ve been the best laning bot lane in na and you can’t tell me if they played yasuo rakan that they wouldnt smash every other bot lane in the league
Well this turned out to be off by a bit.
"you can do anything" except play adcs
RIP BLAME GAME
Are you sure about bjerg? Doesn’t he have a very big champion pool
Also he played a lot of Zoe and she is still very strong
This meta... Is hyper trash. They practically removed crit from the game as there's only like 3 actual marksman you can play. Pretty sure this is the patch that finally gets me to quit league.
JayDee The power of Crit is still very much there; probably even more powerful then before.
The problem is that it is super hard to get a game to last that long.
I'd say the issue is just that Riot had been wanting games to end faster and that means less late game and, therefore, crit builders never hit that damage.
They might consider giving players more of a chance to stall so crit has a chance to make it.
Karson Kammerzell in aware of what they did. It makes zero sense. You can't spend two years shortening games, then say you want crit to be a late game build. There is no late game, every game ends before crit can kick in. Creating items but for 40 minute games in a world where games last 25 minutes is no different from removing them from the shop.
JayDee Yeah, I can understand the frustration.
I was actually thinking about how effective it might be to have the support assist in stealing jungle for the ADC. Basically you'd hard push with someone like Cait or Trist and go into the enemy jungle for Krugs or Gromp as it pushes back. Risky, but might funnel enough gold to give a quicker power spike.
Karson Kammerzell incredibly risky. Even if the jungler isn't there, the enemy bit can still clear the wave and harass or even kill you. It's much safer just to play cheese. Hence the current meta.
JayDee Yeah, it's risky. There is some merit to at least test the theory though. Caitlyn's kit does traditionally counter the laning phase of the current top three.
Certainly a risk though. Something I'll try in normals first.
Impact will be fine. Singed stronk
It's a clown fiesta meta. So I likely won't be watching until things tighten up.
This didn't age very well.
Low tier teams become top tier and vice versa because this patch is no brains patch
Cant wait to see all rankings crash and burn :D
Man like Markz.... How can you put TSM so lowblol
Looking like a snack 👀
I can’t watch last vod
For region lock
Why
I'm used to it
GG should have just kept Hai
Using the same thumbnail for spring LuL
nice
Turtle yes
MEXICO TO WIN WORLD CUP ???
Isnt Damonte banned?
Travis Root suspended for like 5 games, not banned
brandoniannn well still.... doubt Damonte will see time in the meta. Its all gonna be on fenix which is a little troublesome as an EF fan
???? fenix is good lol
Thomas Christensen Fenix was exposed during play offs. He was getting out csed, getting shit out in team fights, taking questionable fights, and let’s not forget his horrific Fiora game
Im not saying fenix is bad. Like Mark said in the video, this meta wil not do well for him so the early weeks might be tough for him. We will see since his first opponents are Keane and Febiven
"Its not a fiesta" then everything you say for the next minute. Soooo a fiesta? Lmao.
How the fuck did Goldenglue got the role??????
Every single team he joined, he sucked at mid. How is he still around? How the fuck is he starting mid for c9?
How? Does he have a millionaire daddy?
As a FlyQuest fan I TUNED OUT THE REST OF THE VIDEO AFTER HE SAID FLYQUEST WAS GONNA BE #1 WAHOOOOOO. #FLYWIN
I'm not watching the rest of the season because we have officially peaked bay YEAH!!!
He didn't say you'd be number 1 he said the meta would help FLY the best, big difference.
Optic will win worlds.
imagine tsm not making playoffs LUL
Why so a tier list about which teams are best affected by the patch? I think everyone was expecting power rankings. I could care less how the patch effects teams, I care how you rank each team.
This is good for bitcoin.
0:07 DEAD
Jesus Christ his monitor is old. LOL
Nicholas Khami ? Looks nice. Why get something crazy if what you have works? Wasteful lol
Dee Roberts I feel you
He's too poor to buy another one. Please donate to him
I love how he randomly has OGN playing in the background haha xD
It's because LCK has already played competitive games on patch 8.11.
HolyBlue Berries rude
3:05 >:)
0:06 :)
Tsm will probably have a rough start
Oh man, if this fails, you will become a meme with your power rankings.
Sorravee Boonbunjerdsri these aren't actually power rankings, they're just like... who does the meta help and hurt the most
How to fix lol!
1. Get rid of summer split
2. Two best teams from each major reagion and 4 wildcard teams quilify duirng the spring split for an internation tournament that takes place in the summer all over the world!
3. Nobody cares about flyquest vs golden guardians, but everyone would tune in for uzi vs all the rest of the best ADCs each weekend!
4. Profit
without watching this the video, just going to say. its trash. you look way too well put together.
FIRST
Reigning LCS champs - #3. Nice. Very informed.
lm Snarkk looked shaky at MSI, even against weaker teams. Meta is a lot worse for them, and they haven't shown they've been quick to adapt and innovate. I personally agree with Markz.
Marco Peluso sorry, flytrash will never be better than a championship team in the lcs, much less the second best performing ad carry in the world?
lm Snarkk Firstly DoubleLift is hardly going to be playing conventional ADCs anymore, so as much as I want to agree that DoubleLift is the best ADC in NA, his champion pool got fucked hard by the patch. Secondly, the video wasn't even about how good each team is, rather it was about how good the meta fits each team, which to be fair, FlyQuest will probably look good in for the first few weeks. Does this mean they will end up higher that TL? Hard to say, depends on meta shifts, don't argue with contentions like "flyquest suks dick" just because you can't comprehend basic reasoning or digest valid arguments.
I digest the argument alright. But it makes no sense. Fly has a revamped roster of bottom of the barrel players, he is putting faith into WildTurtle who has looked awful for the past few splits, despite winning a championship. Your point about doublelift's champion pool is 100% irrelevant, because every ADC in NA has the same champion pool of 17 marksmen, and everyone's has been reduced. But hey, thanks for the petty insults.
lm Snarkk Let's just completely ignore how he said that WildTurtle has had a variety of experience playing many champions in other roles in his soloqueue grind and assume that all the ADCs are in the same situation. Let's also ignore how Flame as a toplaner is an extremely talented bruiser player and could not fully showcase his skills in the past seasons where it's been mainly CC tanks toplane. It's almost like you filter out anything that goes against what you believe without any consideration as to why others are making their claims.